Product Review: Cubesim AimXY Head Tracker

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[@gpbarth]

Coming from China and needing an internet connection to launch puts an immediate stop for me. Especially since the CCP is very adept at facial recognition systems. I do like the face tracking method, but I hope a non-Chinese company can do the job better and cheaper. I'll stay with TrackIR for now. But great review.

[@Snugggg]

@@Medieval1-1 *the product comes from china and needs an internet connection. it certainly is a uncomfortable combination.

[@NE-Explorer]

CCP has products that dump to US servers, which then transmit to CCP

[@shmayazuggot8558]

Yeah full video capture of person and surroundings using CCP gear is frightful. Tobii 5 is the best option for precision face and eye tracking using IR and no head gear.

[@mor4y]

Depending on the product, you can often run your own little proxy that either impersonates home base, or one that records everything passing through and keeps a eye out for anything dodgy. BEEF proxy is one of the top of my head, but it must be getting old now, probably better/faster things available Another option is wireshark, maybe paired with a decent network adaptor, and it can also sniff USB and other busses nowadays

[@HeloHounds]

Tobii 5

[@RTSchramm]

You are aware that the Chinese government is in the process of creating a worldwide facial recognition database, so this may be the reason it needs an Internet connection. I know of no software, other than subscription software, that requires an Internet connection to operate. BTW, thanks for bring this issue up in the video as this a game breaker for me.

[@mcmackmuckm8180]

Very happy to hear "valued viewers" phrase, it gave me a warm fuzzy feeling. Grim Reapers staying "on brand". Good informative video. Thank you Grumpmeister.

[@rmp5s]

Look at Grumpnik doing things. Chinese camera requiring network connection? Nah...hard pass...

[@gxlbiscuit]

Leaders in facial recognition want to put internet connected facial geometry cam in your house.

[@tymoteuszkazubski2755]

Online initialization is a hard no-go for me.

[@CommDante]

Gives instant spyware/'live service' vibes to me too.

[@TonyMorel]

The internet connection is an instant no for me. Shame, but will go with another TrackIR

[@lambdacalculus8316]

A friend gave me one as a gift. Since then, I have never used trackir again. Aimxy makes the click of buttons in a cockpit much more comfortable.

[@alistairmartins6970]

Yeah if you dont have to zoom in and click buttons even the Steam Viewtracker works fine

[@FooBarr68]

Great review Grump, balanced and informative. well done sir

[@muskyelondragon]

Grump! Dude, you are fun AF to listen to. Love you in the vids!

[@Davros-vi4qg]

Cheers Grump, candid idea. Cheers for the review.

[@mathiasorbo7291]

Been really interested in this one but there were not enough reviews online for me to actually make my mind up. Thanks to your video, I'm now going to save up for one.

[@H3nry2077]

Hope you didn't get it

[@MrTurbine777]

Since not one person that shows this thing answers the question about low light, here is my answer after testing tonight. Low light was very good. I had all of my lights out other than my monitor which is about 21" from my face, but when in DCS is at the beginning of an instant action flight, where there's that dialog box that you must click "Fly" on? Well, during that look at how dark the background is and how little light. During that my room was very dark and I could still see it working in the background. A tad shaky that dark, and I wasn't going for that much darkness. My test was just one monitor. With all your lights off running more than one monitor you should have nothing to worry about.

[@Smegheid]

Much appreciated, Grumpnik. The online requirement is weapons-grade idiocy. Beyond the (completely valid) privacy and security concerns, a device that refuses to operate at all until some online check passes instantly becomes a worthless brick if the company shuts up shop and takes down their server. At this sort of asking price, that’s an absolute nope for me.

[@russellgill8449]

I've just bought this product so relieved to see that it works well and can use you review for my setup of it.

[@22IDOWILIER]

is it worth the money?

[@russellgill8449]

@@22IDOWILIER yes its worth the dollars easy to setup and use.

[@jamesmontgomery9464]

@@22IDOWILIER regretting my purchase. i have had the trackir for years and it served me well, its worn and seen better days, thought i try something different instead of purchasing a new trackir. i just can't get it track without jerks and stutters, been at it for hours. the manual could be better. i wish i had just gotten another trackir.

[@staubsauger2305]

Speaking of tracking, does the unit phone home back to China ? sending your facial biometrics back to the PLA doesn't seem like a good idea (yes, they can get such data, but usually they have to work hard for it).

[@Mobius118]

You can never go wrong with the Ace Combat X soundtrack in the background… great pick broski

[@Tetemovies4]

It has really memorable musics (and the game is just as memorable).

[@valuedhumanoid6574]

If I remember correctly I believe I paid $200 for the Track IR Pro. So this is much less expensive. I have no issues with it to warrant changing, but if something were to happen that I need to buy another, I would definitely consider this. I am also debating the Oculus VR headset. But until the need arises, I am staying put (knowing Karma a blast of lightning will strike now, sending my Track IR Camera up in smoke and flames, or a stray Maverick from the F16's that fly over my house will hit nearby, sending fragments into my IR camera)

[@DripsDrop]

Great review Grump, if I were to be picky the usb cable would've been better to be black to match the unit but in reality it's minor.

[@ernestwinslow7316]

I saw that. Big contrast in matching colors.

[@Puddletrucker]

Wow your colours in your game are incredible! Nice review too

[@wardenteegs6148]

Reminds me of SmoothTrack for the phone. It's only $10 and tracks your face with phone camera. So cheap and works great.

[@docholliday1811]

Looks like a great device as opposed to using head gear of some sort. Great video thank you.

[@skilgannon5069]

Great review Grump,.cheers.👍

[@Chio_OB]

Looks pretty good and an excellent review! I have a Tobbii Eyetracker which for some reason I cannot get to work on DCS, although it did for a while. I dug out my old track Ir from waaaaaaaay back in the day, it worked, sort of, I got an excellent deal on a trackir5 and it's been pretty sweet, but like all head trackers still glitches sometimes!. Going to sell the Tobii (if I get round to it) but will stick with my tackir as I have it, it works and so I should save for the next 10 yrs to afford a new gfx card, lol. Super expensive!

[@hiei5040]

Let me know if you want to sell the Tobii 5 I'm wanting to get one

[@PhantomMark]

I have one of these, it is the camera software which is the special bit, not the camera.....it is basically validating your software and registered camera, so someone can't hack the software and then connect a cheap webcam or something. My first unit failed but it was replaced without question, and the second unit has been be mostly trouble free.

[@Oz_Gnarly_One]

I was interesteded until the internet requirement. That just sounds weird.

[@evanhinkle5136]

As someone who has used a VR headset, the only issue I can't answer is if it requires an Internet connection. However, the one I used was not prone to most, if not all, of the problems mentioned, so if you have the money and don't want the issues, a VR headset would be my recommendation. The only issue I have had with the VR headset is that you may feel slightly disoriented when you are done.

[@IdleRain]

I played DCS twice in VR and went back to my cheap ebay-bought 6DOF alternative. Craning my neck isn't fun for one thing lol

[@evanhinkle5136]

@@IdleRain I don't know which VR Headset I used as it was supplied through an Exhibit that I went to, and that was not an issue.

[@5Andysalive]

@@evanhinkle5136 it is a simple fact that to look around in a VR headset you have to look around. It's kind of the point of VR and what makes it immersive. Weras with these tracking things you only your head a little bit to get the full view movement (depending on how you set it up). That is obviously not realistic and less immersive. But people may prefer that over realism for a gam...simulator. In any case, the number of VR headsets with "realistic" resolution is tiny and comes with massive hardware requirement. Index or Oculus (had Rift S before) still have visible grid, whatever their marketing tells you. It always looks a bit like a 80's monitor. I now have a HP reverb V2 which has excellent resolution. It is like looking out of the window. To power that resolution with the Hz you need in VR you need a serious machine though! Or reduce the visuals drastically. It also has massive issues with the rings in the lenses and not great controller tracking (irrelevant to DCS). But it needs no external tracking setup which makes tracking less good (also irrelevant to DCS) but SOOOOO much more convenient to setup and use elsewhere. But still no sign of a perfect VR system that does everything well.

[@JPsTechReviews]

No internet needed with trackir 5 other than downloading the app. Setup the software get your camera to the spot that works for you and configure. Pretty easy.

[@JPsTechReviews]

@@5Andysalive excellent advice and thank for sharing your thoughts open minded and honest.

[@dmsdmullins]

As others have said the internet required is a no-go for me. The ONLY reason they need an internet connection is to spy on you.

[@jamesmontgomery9464]

would have liked to see some of the typical extreme inside the cockpit views, necessary to view an operate some switches. you know lean forward and roll without going wonky.

[@JPsTechReviews]

I will put up a video on that very soon. Thank for sharing.

[@wsdao3582]

Great Review!

[@Karshel]

Nice review :) will keep it on my radar!

[@NicOz42]

Did you buy it?

[@Karshel]

@@NicOz42 no, perhaps after I get back from an upcoming trip, spending a few months on the road is a bit more important for now :)

[@ernestwinslow7316]

One of the reason I find vr very viable beside the immersion aspect is cable management. My trackir 5 is tucked up far away for years now because of having to deal with all the cables and head gear inconveniences. This cubesim face tracking option looks superb. However It is hard to fathom why a head tracking device for computer games would have to contact home(manufacturers server) to function. That aspect of this device is really suspicious and spooky. The data(facial data) collection theory is not far fetched in this case. I see a lot of cons against vr. VR has got immersion going for it and that alone is important for me in flightsim.

[@miff227]

I've never used head tracking. Presumably you turn your head but your eyes swivel to remain looking at the monitor? Is this just something you get used to? What ratio of IRL to in-game would a person use? Obviously if I want to look at my 8 I wont be able to see the monitor if the ratio is 1:1.

[@jamesmontgomery9464]

@@miff227 you do so by adjusting curves for each axis, much like sitting your control curves in DCS. its not like you have to move your head to the 3 o'clock and swivel your eyes to the extreme left, you can set curves so that just turning your head so you are facing the right or left edge of monitor you are looking at the 6 o'clock in game, same for pitch, then adjusting the curve for points in between.

[@miff227]

@@jamesmontgomery9464 do you just get used to the unnaturalness of moving your head with your eyes fixed on one spot but the visual image received moving with your head?

[@British_Dragon-Simulations]

@@miff227 It never felt unnatural for me, at least, with TrackiR5. I may get this head tracking camera after playing for two years in VR with a Vive Pro which is incredibly blurry (I.e. can't read dashboard) and has noticeable screen door effect. I should have purchased the HP Reverb G2 V2 instead.

[@DD-sw1dd]

I’m waiting on better resolution, performance, more wide FOV, and a active ventilation/cooling. Fogging and all the cables of the original Oculus also turned me off on VR until these issues are fixed. Flying something with analogue gauges like the F-14 is a bit of a pain. Anything that requires you to see small text or details.

[@Sirmellowman]

im impressed, will probably pick this up if my track IR that ive had for like 12 years now breaks lol

[@jamesmontgomery9464]

i thought exactly the same thing... bought it and wished i had purchased another trackir.

[@Sirmellowman]

@@jamesmontgomery9464 what didnt you like?

[@jamesmontgomery9464]

@@Sirmellowman i just can't seem to get to track smoothly, it seems to always have jerks and stutters at various points. no matter how i adjust the curves... the stutters and jerks just move to different points. it maybe lighting or that i have a white beard... the manual leaves a lot to be desired and nothing on Utube showing how to adjust curves. i'm very familiar with trackir 5, so i'd think i could figure Aimxy out.

[@Sirmellowman]

@@jamesmontgomery9464 gotcha, thanks for the input. sounds like I might stick to trackIR then

[@CloudWallace]

Nice piece of gear, unfortunately its provenance coupled with the mandatory Internet connection leaves a sour taste in the mouth

[@WyvernFalken]

Agreed.

[@pr3sidentspence]

Looks nice, except for price (good thing there's the 2% discount /snark). I am a bit concerned about a Chinese device that insists on internet connectivity. Yes, there is a cover, but is it opaque to all the frequencies the device can detect? Is there a mic (I would hope not)?

[@foxco2378]

China is watching

[@WyvernFalken]

The cover is opaque and it *shouldn't* have a mic on it. I haven't cracked it open to see if it has a secret one. Agreed that a product from PRC requiring an internet connection on a facial recognition is a cause for concern.

[@pr3sidentspence]

@@WyvernFalken It does appear opaque, but can the cam see in IR and is the cover opaque to IR? Probably, but if I was trying to be sneaky that!s how I’d do it.

[@lifeoftekki]

Thanks Mr. Grump.

[@WyvernFalken]

You're welcome!

[@magnusmolund8402]

Enjoyed this vid👍🏻

[@touzster8293]

im running aimXYZ for almost 5 months and i give it 10/10...

[@plantsofwar8834]

Did you use TrackIR previously? If so, notice any downsides since switching?

[@GamjaField]

Bright background can be a issue, since it uses a mono camera, it will blow our your facial features hence lowered tracking ability.

[@shadowp3000]

i use open track with a ps3 eye cam and a IR850 camera filter glued to it, it blocks all visible light and only IR light can pass through so i can play dcs with my window open and the only thing i have watch out for are Reflective surfaces.

[@jamesmontgomery9464]

finally got it yesterday after 2 wks. good quality and packaging, easy to setup... after that goes down hill, for me. had to turn off one of the axis, was either left of center or right center. even if i sat very still some of the axis would show movement. been working on curves, pitch jerky at extremes and generally not smooth. wished you had shown how to adjust curves. roll is something i've given up on now for now. my monitor is a 34UC89G, and i found that mounting the camera top center works best for movement range. what might be my problem, is i have a white beard and my hair is also white... now this my results so far... i don't doubt others may have different results. different monitor, lighting... better understanding of manual. will continue to try and get it working. how do you create different gaming profiles, or is it possible?

[@WyvernFalken]

To be honest, it was a lot of trial and error on setting up curves. Still needs some refining as any headtracker needs. It is some growing pains.

[@Tsudico]

I would almost rather pay an extra $50 for Tobii Eye Tracker 5 or save money and use a decent web cam along with AITrack. Which route someone should go with depends on their situation, but if you already have a good webcam, trying AITrack with OpenTrack is a free alternative that might give similar performance to what this offers.

[@HeloHounds]

I use Tobii 5... love hate relationship. Overall big yes but the big cons are it has very finicky curves and it is impossible to shut down the eye tracking and use the head tracking only, as they give that as an option but it gets very jumpy when eye tracking is off.

[@freddibnah7198]

I use Opentrack & AI Track with a very cheap PS3 webcam and i have no problems in DCS or IL2 - might take awhile setting up a decent curve profile though.

[@WyvernFalken]

I also did the review for the Tobii Eye Tracker 5 on this channel. There are a few things with the ET5 which made me decide to remain with my TrackHat. Should give it a look if you're curious.

[@HeloHounds]

@@WyvernFalken I'm pretty sure I recall watching your video on the Tobii 5. It's been around a year now though so I can't recall all of it. I watch way too many GR videos, lol. GR is what got me going on DCS in the first place.

[@gerryabbott]

Thanks for the detailed review. Surprised you didn't include FaceTrack NoIR in the mix, as it's potentially a less expensive solution (if you own a webcam) using a very similar technology. I also think that trying to compare a 2d tracking solution with a VR solution is like apples and oranges, only similarity is both track your head. Misses all the benefits of a 'quality' VR solution, notwithstanding the additional cost of such a solution. A well tracked (lighthouse) VR solution, has a 1:1 head movement and will wipe the floor with any other tracking solutions. IMHO.

[@ernestwinslow7316]

My thoughts on the VR side of things too

[@WyvernFalken]

I compare with VR because there's generally two different solutions for head motion in DCS/MSFS/XP11 etc and that is OpenTrack and VR. One's less immersion but much cheaper, and the other is more immersion, but lower game resolution, very demanding on GPUs, and is typically unaffordable to most. Just because you can afford it doesn't mean everybody else can too. Keep that in mind.

[@speedspeederspeedest]

Ive been trying out both facetracknoir and smoothtrack recently, smoothtrack + opentrack works much better. It actually works so good that im not buying a trackir/ grassmonkey/ whatever in the near future. Ofc its a lot of fiddling with curves (for each sim) im using it for over flanders fields, rise of flight, warthunder and dcs and every sim/game need its own curves to work well.

[@albird87]

Great review grump! Slightly more costly than the IR stuff but looks to be a better solution for going to less cables to a headset. When my trackIR5 dies I shall probably look at grabbing one of these. 👍

[@kenc9236]

Awesome review young man. I am old school so it is nice to see new tech for flight sims.

[@JPsTechReviews]

Thank you

[@jcjammer8972]

Good review👍 Have you tried it with IL 2 Sturmovik? I have Tobii ET 5 for DCS but it won’t work with IL 2 unless you use an earlier software version, which limits the degrees of freedom. (So I have to use TrackIR with IL 2.)

[@WyvernFalken]

If Cap has us in IL-2: Tank Crews or something, I will come back and let you know for sure. :) It is listed on the AimXY website as a game compatible with the headtracker so it should work.

[@RealNeutronStar]

Why couldn't this be a song for the Grim Reapers theme? Song Don,t Fear The Reaper! Perfect! Even if the lyrics are awful, theme song is perfect just perfect. So why not!

[@johneckert1690]

Great review Grump. If you have a public KZbin page that may be of interest, could you please list it as I am a fan of the Reapers and all that participate in DCS. I plan to get into DCS as soon as I can afford it, but intel then I will just have to watch here on KZbin. I would join and just be a spectator, but I realize that may use valuable server resources needed for the participants in the simulation and that wound be disrespectful.

[@WyvernFalken]

Sure thing! My channel is here - kzbin.info/door/5Reg1sLqWjcLO8A8T-5FsQ

[@British_Dragon-Simulations]

You need at least the Supercarrier and a jet compatible aircraft before they would consider you joining them. People usually recommend the F-18 Hornet as a first Supercarrier compatible module as it is a good 'all-rounder', apparently. I purchased the F-16 Viper myself as it seemed the best air to air jet at the time, but it isn't Supercarrier compatible, even though it has a tail hook. The hook is for testing the engine and emergency brake failure landings only I believe. They recently nerfed the F-16 RADAR as well, but it is still good. I'm more into the WWII and the Cold War era technology. The Enigma Cold War server is really good at this time and keeps getting better. The Storm of War WWII server was my favorite server, but they quit a while back which infuriated quite a few people as most virtual WWII pilots considered it the best. Some people have tried to pick up the pieces and make another great WWII server just like the Storm of War one, but I have not checked recently to see if they are as good. I stopped flying after Storm of War ended until I heard about the Enigma server. There is a lot to learn for modern 4th gen aircraft in DCS. So much so, that you can have a two month break from flying in DCS and then forget certain things about the RADAR and computer systems. DCS also has updates at least once to sometimes three times a month which is really great but can change some button bindings sometimes to. Always back up your control inputs for each aircraft if you can. Chucks DCS aircraft guides are a great tool for learning modules as well.

[@Ultimatevr123]

Looks like it does well looking to the side and up, most ai face track have a lot of trouble with that

[@johnarundel2043]

Great video, but I'm wondering if you can use it in low/no light as I play quiet a bit in a darkened room. Thanks

[@CommDante]

As long as it can recognise your face, no idea if it has extra IR leds for it, but I doubt it from looking at the product.

[@WyvernFalken]

Yes it works well in saturated light, and even low light. Using it in the mornings when it's dark for Cap's wargames and it tracks like a charm.

[@zsavage1820]

question... how do you get a stiff neck from a VR headset? I never have or do.. I get more neck strain from having to keep looking forward while turning my head... awkward.. but that's just me.. the only drawback from VR to me is resolution .. everything else is pretty awesome.. but I am looking to get the HP Reverb G2 version 2 I will not touch anything Oculus especially the crappy quest or quest 2 which is just a glorified phone stuck in a crappy pair of goggles.. :) when I want to use a tracking.. I use AITrack & OpenTrack and my webcam.. or you can even use a phone with a cam... best part is that it's free..

[@CommDante]

Maybe the weight? I dunno, only tried the one with Descent 2 and Dark Forces decades ago ... I rather have a 'physical cockpit' to turn the switches.

[@TheTrooperG]

Very interesting. Couple of questions. 1 Can you have a key press function to pause the motion? 2 Do you have a key press function to centralise?

[@WyvernFalken]

Yes and yes.

[@JPsTechReviews]

I just turn off the headset by the button on my head peace as far as centralizing that can be done in the app.

[@B.D.B.]

Please compare this to TrackAI + OpenTrack. It works exactly like this only it uses whatever webcam you have laying around and is free.

[@performance13able]

How is the low light performance? Not dark, but lower lighting room environments.

[@22IDOWILIER]

Is 'smoothtrack' for android phone any good? I like the idea of this but smoothtrack is about £9 compared to around £180 for the AIMXYZ-5. Great video - keep up the good work!

[@WyvernFalken]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/mni9dauCl7B3m6s

[@JPsTechReviews]

I think smooth track is a good program and to be honest with a little time and tweaking you can get mostly all the camera tracking and software tracking stuff working great. The budget factor is also something to keep in mind.

[@speedspeederspeedest]

For its price its really good, like with most trackers you have to fiddle with curves in opentrack quite a lot to get it where you want it. Best low cost solution ive tried thats for sure.

[@shmayazuggot8558]

For that money, Tobii 5 is far better plus no CCP surveillance.

[@NavySturmGewehr]

What is that model aircraft under your monitor?! Love the pistol in the shot too!

[@WyvernFalken]

Thank you! It's the Arsenal Bird from Ace Combat 7.

[@ShawnHinck]

I’ve tried this, Tobii and I just keep coming back to trackIR with my RJSIMTECH headset. Everything else just seems to be to glitchy or not as smooth regardless of what curves I use

[@zorbakaput8537]

That's been my experience as well have tried 4 other systems along with Track IR. Still using Track IR. Its funny how people point out with these systems you don't need anything on your head yet most simmers would not be caught dead without a headset in a domestic environment. With a good wireless headset you won't even notice the weight of the Proclip and I have full mobility as I converted my Proclip to use a USB battery pack so I can walk around wire free when I get up from longer flights.

[@Vintage_USA_Tech]

I think I will keep my PS3 Eye with track cap it works great and only coast me like 10 bucks

[@G1llmanBlacklg00n]

It seems that the right company could write software that uses the onboard camera or video cam most people already own to do the same thing.

[@CommDante]

....like FaceTrackNoIR that has been around for over a decade? Nah...

[@G1llmanBlacklg00n]

@@CommDante I use an Oculus VR headset for DCS and it’s great but there are limitations.

[@CommDante]

@@G1llmanBlacklg00n Lack of actually flipping switches .. hehe. Anyhoo, to each it's own.

[@G1llmanBlacklg00n]

@@CommDante even with mapping the buttons and switches on a HOTAS, using VR is a challenge because there can be so many of them. It's a challenge to remember what function you've assigned to what button!

[@Tink-GB]

I cannot seen to overlay anything over the top of DCS...presumably I need to change resolution in settings?

[@rovpilot1]

I just wish those cams would be smaller, easier to build in my simulator cockpit

[@maxmaxmaxmax647]

Is the jump from Facetrack NOIR worth it ?

[@mobiusmoab]

Any GR care to do a Tobii tracker comparison? I know you guys are all super dialed in on your OpenTrack configs and would detect fine issues that a relatively new sim-aviator would not realize till much later in their career.

[@WyvernFalken]

I already did a Tobii review here - kzbin.info/www/bejne/nne0aZqFar58o7M

[@peterrichardson1054]

Hi Grumpmeister - Any more comments on the AimXY Headtracxker. I wondered if you still use it and is it still worth getting - Thanks.

[@bitmaster6542]

Nice to see it works but the internet connection is a no-go.

[@TuberiderFPV]

Watched this video and decided i'd buy one, really works great i much prefer it over my track IR.

[@joshdoyle2503]

What if a raid of B-17 bombers flew low over Normandy for more accurate bombing?

[@Shrike200]

I've got some software for my phone which does a very good job of this, but for much less money. BUT, my question is based on problems I had with that software - does this device compensate for 'off axis' head movement, in other words does it account for the fact that (for example) when you move your head towards the monitor to look at an instrument more closely, your head isn't moving towards the camera, but towards the monitor? In those cases, the softyware I was using on my phone (Face Track NoIR?) would move my virtual view 'off axis' (ie. from its perspective, I was moving my head closer, but also upwards - which reflected as such in game). So when I moved my head 'towards' the instrument (screen), because the camera wasn't located on the screen, it would show relative movement away from it's line of sight as well. If you could setup the geometry of your hardwares physical layout in the software, it would be a simple matter for these kind of devices to account for this relative motion. TrackIR (which I use all the time) works well enough because it's mounted on top of my monitor, which is actually closer to my eye line than at the bottom of the monitor - the obvious solution is just to mount this device in the same place I suppose, I juse feel like a software solution to the relative layour problem would be ideal. Hopefully I've explained the problem well enough, I'm not sure if other people feel like this is as much of problem as I do though. As I said, the cellphone based software I used had absolutely no problems with the tracking part, but it was difficult to mount my phone to the top of my monitor, so all other locations suffered badly from the problem.

[@WyvernFalken]

It has six degrees of freedom. It will read your forward motion to look at the screen and move your view in world forward. Depending on where the sensor is in relation to your face and monitor, it may read an upward trend motion. That can be offset by reducing the motion of the Z axis.

[@Byrkster]

UGH Internet connection required. :( seems fishie. Hows this compared to TOBI? GREAT VIDEO ;)

[@shinobi_naze8455]

Was that a model drone from ace combat 7 under ur screen?

[@WyvernFalken]

Yes that is the Arsenal Bird.

[@selbie]

Do you know what type of camera it is using? Infrared? How well does it handle low light situations?

[@WyvernFalken]

It's an optical camera that uses pattern recognition. I've used it in low light and it's worked fine for me.

[@Catch_The_Irishman]

Nice review. Pros and Cons leads me to believe you have not used VR for DCS. There really is no comparison. Concern to me is why does it require an always on internet connection? The development tech is great as it seems the face tracking you demonstrated is pretty amazing. Like I said, great review. Thanks man!

[@WyvernFalken]

According to the rep, the requirement for an internet connection on start-up is an anti-piracy measure.

[@Catch_The_Irishman]

@@WyvernFalken okay, thanks Grump and be safe!

[@austinbentley6234]

How does zooming work on this? Do you squint or bring your face closer to the monitor? Or is this nonexistent? Thanks!

[@WyvernFalken]

Are you asking about zooming in the game? I have that bound to a radial knob.

[@austinbentley6234]

@@WyvernFalken I was just curious if any facial tracking stuff does zooming too, or if it was just for panning. I think you answered my question, thanks!

[@speedspeederspeedest]

often you can adjust the Z axis and zoom by moving your head closer to the screen.

[@xenimaging]

This makes sense, china is the king of face recognition (tracking) tech

[@swedishbones8937]

Does the RDR software work with any camera?

[@mickemike2148]

Hey Grump! Them nails tho... Are you a guitar player?

[@WyvernFalken]

I used to. I play drums now.

[@splitt_1923]

Finally there's competition to trackIR. I am tired of getting a flimsy plastic IR camera with a very unstable camera mount and a somehow even more flimsy IR reflector clip. And all that for 150$ which is ridiculous. Whats even more ridiculous is that they dare to sell you a plastic clip that is better built for a whole 70 DOLLARS MORE!!! Let me remind you that the 70$ clip is a plastic housing with rechargable batteries and 3 IR LEDs which cost mere cents. The said 70$ clip which is the "Pro clip" should be included in the box as standard if im paying 150$ for all that cheap plastic garbage.

[@cowlevelcrypto2346]

Available on Amazon for $199 as of 17 October 2022.

[@WyvernFalken]

Just keep in mind the ones on Amazon are not from CUBESIM/AimXY. I'm not sure who these sellers are exactly.

[@OldStreetDoc]

When you turn your head… you’re not looking at / towards your monitor. How do you see what’s on the monitor when you do turn your head? For instance when you look behind to check your six?

[@LiamTucker]

That's why you set the curves etc. You can manually set how exaggerated the pilots head turns in relation to your own. If I want to look directly behind me, I set it so my head's turned left (for example), but I can still see screen clearly by looking right with eyes at the screen still. Then anything in-between that pointand straight on is is nice and smooth . Just takes some fettling to your liking 😊

[@OldStreetDoc]

@@LiamTucker Ahh… THAT makes sense. Explains a lot. Thanks! 👍🏼

[@LiamTucker]

@@OldStreetDoc You're welcome!😊 All part of the GR service ☺️. - TuX

[@crmays8645]

How do I enable it to work in DCS? I had it going, did a control reconfig and lost it. Any ideas?

[@Xizzor]

Why is there a fully loaded and cocked (softair?) gun at 3:17? 🤔

[@WyvernFalken]

Because I live in America, and it's not airsoft. :)

[@AcceptmyName]

Hello valued Grump.

[@WyvernFalken]

Hello, valued Philip!

[@rockelino]

Can you explain CENTER TRACK vs OFFSET TRACK capability?

[@WyvernFalken]

TrackIR and other OpenTrack solutions use a three-diode IR emitter attached to the side of the headset. If you turn your head enough, the IR diodes become obscured by your face on one side.

[@zorbakaput8537]

@@WyvernFalken If that happens you haven't calibrated Track IR correctly. I can look 180 degrees down the rear of the aircraft over the seat from both sides - it is a test I do for my friend units as well to ensure they calibrated them correctly. As with all systems only requires some tuning on the part of the user of the speed and smoothness against the yaw pitch and roll axis. Track IR is still the smoothest I have used imo.

[@hoodwinkiez]

Sadly, I've yet to figure out why mine won't connect at all to the app. Maybe I got a bad one?

[@RolandDobbins]

Why use this vs. Aruco/OpenTrack?

[@randalljones4370]

Has anyone tried this with a Shoulder-Mounted Cat? My black beauty of a cat, Velocity, with often perch on my shoulder (ala Pirates-n-Parrots) and I'm concerned about getting some two-headed monster/sudden headsnap motions. RE the internet connection... will it work with a VPN at startup?

[@RealNeutronStar]

Why couldn't this be a song for the Grim Reapers theme? Song Don,t Fear The Reaper! Perfect! Even if the lyrics are awful, theme song is perfect just perfect. So why not!

[@oldmanfunky4909]

How does it do in low light/dark room?

[@WyvernFalken]

Tracks just fine.

[@TomReidarGrndahl]

I have it, it wont work in a dark room. 🤫should have been equipped with a infrared light in front and infrared sensing lens.

[@WyvernFalken]

I've used it in low light and it's worked just fine for me.

[@TomReidarGrndahl]

@@WyvernFalken Then it is you word against mine. i7-32G-3080ti

[@CommDante]

So.... how does this differ from the decade old FacetrackNoIR?

[@CommDante]

WTF, even needs internet connection to even work? >_

[@SsgtHolland]

"It is very soft to cause trouble to the pro, please tick the V situation you encounter" Uhm..ok, I guess I'll do that...?

[@WyvernFalken]

Mouth Return :)

[@shaneduc]

Cool product, but $150-$200 USD is still a bit steep. If I didn't have TrackIR all ready I would give this a try.

[@ktw7911]

ACE COMBAT 7 에서 HEAD TRACKING 할수 있는방법 좀 알려주십시오! 다른게임들은 다 작동가능한데 이겜만 안됩니다!

[@antongazaryan2532]

Guys, whats the minimum distance from my face to camera? My monitor is attached to the wall, and its like 1 feet away from my face.

[@WyvernFalken]

That should work just fine. Sorry for the late reply.

[@mfreed40k]

Gotta be a no for me. PRC camera, face recognition, and internet required is not a good look.

[@WyvernFalken]

Agreed.

[@dreaminknight]

lol, I always read AIM-9X..

[@Sarlacc_]

what's the justification for requiring an internet connection?

[@WyvernFalken]

The AimXY rep stated this is an anti-piracy measure. Take that response how you will. :)

[@proton9551]

trackHat prices aren't what you were indicating there..if you add uup ALL those stuff you need.

[@WyvernFalken]

My Trackhat cost $40. The PS3 Eye Camera was $30 for it. If you paid more than around $40 then you got ripped off.

[@draz1556]

valued viewers….well grump i heard that before

[@WyvernFalken]

Any GR viewer is a valued viewer!

[@alphatango1358]

How to use with glasses... aimxy head tracking american truck simulator

[@Blackcloud_Garage]

An direct, facial recognition link to the CCP would be a hard NO for me.