Professional Genealogist Reacts - Husband Finds Out He's Related to Wife

[@TheBarePantryShow]

My tree is built out, but Joe’s family on both sides can’t or don’t want to tell us anything. Joe’s parents are both alive, but I only have my dad still alive. My 1st cousin on my dad’s side did her Ancestry DNA and found out that she’s also related to Joe. I’ll do another video updating all of this. Great video! Thank you for explaining so much.

[@allsorts4041]

Hi Barbara yourself and Joe share what myself and a 2nd cousin once removed share🙂

[@lenka156]

Can You do DNA test of Joe's parents?

[@TMB62]

It would be great if he could add your family to his KZbin series Barbara. Good to see you here as well. Happy New year

[@TheBarePantryShow]

His mom’s last name is Bishop from her Barbadian dad and James from the Srilankan mom.

[@TheBarePantryShow]

I’m just a few minutes into the video, but have to stop to write this. I absolutely love when you break down any of my videos and I can’t wait to watch this one. I have to do on an updated video on my results. I have videos on our 3 kids and we just got update on those too.

[@MegaALLCAPSRAGE]

My family is Indian diaspora Carribeans and Fiji. After the transatlantic slave trade ended there was still a need for cheap labor. The story goes that my 3x Great grandmother was newly widowed with 3 sons under 7 years old when she was coerced to travel out to kolkata for 'good paying work'. She and her sons were then put on a ship to Jamaica. She eventually got remarried in Jamaica to a indian muslim guy (she was a hindu) whose family had been working in the country for a long time. His work moved the family to Fiji where he later died in a flood. The 3 sons from the first marriage were adults by this point and they went overseas to find work. One in Kenya, one in America and one in Australia. The Australia son set himself up the fastest and got his mum and all his younger siblings (one of which was my 2x great grandmother) into Australia to live with him right before The White Australia Policy was put into place.

[@greatpyramids]

Several Caribbean countries have a significant population of Indian descent, due to many indentured labourers moving to the Caribbean after slavery ended. The largest groups that I’m aware of are in Trinidad and Guyana (culturally Caribbean and part of CARICOM)

[@angelafraser4572]

yes, 2011 Trinidad census even shows the Indian descent population is very slightly bigger than the African descent population

[@miyan3738]

Also Suriname

[@deeb2000]

Trinidad, Guyana (South America but very similar culture) and Jamaica, and Belize on a lesser level have the highest South Indian population in the Caribbean). So there are many blacks who are half African/east Indian and mixed. So this is not surprising since the Indians were brought over as indentured servants(and Chinese) just like African were brought over as slaves to these small countries - both groups suffered. Belize like Trinidad are very ethnically mixed. Both couples shown are Belizean.

[@carlosio5]

In Guyana...one should include Portuguese (and Chinese) in the mix. Many arrived in Guyana, as workers and indentured servants also. They were mostly from Madera. Lately, they have discovered that many of these immigrants were actually Portuguese JEWS. Thus someone from Guyana (or nearby Trinidad) is likely to have along with the obvious African heritage, some percentage of Scotts/Irish & English/European DNA. Throw a tiny bit of Jewish, plus Chinese... and Native Americans in there, Those were mainly Arawak (known as Taino elsewhere in the Caribbean) & Caribs along the coast. But the two major groups now are the majority diasporic Indian and those of African heritage.

[@sheppeyescapee]

My mum who is half Mauritian Creole has a lot of Caribbean matches who have Indian ancestry, usually descendants of indentured labourers on the sugar plantations after the abolition of slavery.

[@whitewave09]

Yep same with Guyana and Trinidad - and when I visited Fiji it was very similar to Guyana and Trinidad in culture, probably because its a similar mix due to colonization - indigenous people mixed with African then Indian with a a few colonizer genes thrown in

[@LuckyBruin1]

In the British version of "Who Do You Think You Are?" there has been at least one episode where they dove into the Indian migration to the Caribbean. I'm fairly certain it was the episode devoted to comedian Billy Connolly. When slavery was abolished in the British colonies, there was a need to find workers for the sugar plantations. Many Indian natives migrated to fill that need.

[@koobie83]

Nah Billy Connolly’s ancestor was a soldier who went to work for the British east India company and married a girl there who was half Indian herself. His Indian roots are not Carribean

[@weepingscorpion8739]

I keep wanting to do a DNA test but since I'm from a very endogamous area (the Faroe Islands, my parents are related in at least three different ways) I'm not sure what kind of results I should expect. Reading matches will be really difficult, I guess? DNA breakdown should be OK though. As for the Indian diaspora, yes, Fiji is trilingual, English, the native Fijian, and Fiji Hindi. One of the Guyanas (Suriname I think) also has a large Indian population. I'm sure some of the Caribbean islands have too but I don't know which ones do.

[@GeneaVlogger]

Island endogamy can get pretty difficult for analyzing DNA matches, but it's still workable. Especially when dealing with Y-DNA and MtDNA testing.

[@tamaraholloway9634]

I met my friend who lives across the country from me in Pa about 10 yrs ago on FB. We've never met. Recently I did my DNA on Ancestry and My Living DNA. She'd done her's at some point before and she traced us to be double distant cousins on her father's side and cousins on her mom's.

[@koobie83]

Hey - the Indian migration to the Carribean was when the British needed people to work on their plantations post slavery emancipation. So they grabbed people - mainly from south India - to go and work all around the world on plantations - including countries like Sri Lanka, Fiji, South Africa and The Carribean.

[@rivkyb7840]

My parents are 2-4th cousins. Yes I'm Ashkenazi and that is endogamy right there 😂

[@footballfan5462]

Did they know that they were related

[@maxiculture]

The Indian diaspora in former British colonies like Fiji and those in the Carribbean is related to the sugar industry. A lot of indentured labourers were recruited in then British India especially South India where sugar was a traditional crop.

[@johnstewart1436]

Actually the majority of the Indians taken to Fiji were central-north Indians. Sugar was not the first crop that was tried in Fiji (tea and rice were tried), but the climate better suited sugar. My wife's maternal grandparents were both from modern day Uttar Pradesh and arrived in Fiji on the penultimate indentured ship in 1916.

[@TheEnabledDisabled]

My family suffers a bit from Endogamy, but in the sense that relatives (Especially from my mothers side) share multiple common ancestors with me and records become a bit spotty after mid 1700s.

[@davidparke8896]

I’ve been waiting for this one.

[@lollylula6399]

Your thumbnails for this series though 😅love it 🙌🏼

[@michelem226]

I wonder if the Indian heritage is related to the Indo-Guyanese population. 40% of Guyana is of Indian decent and that country is close to the Caribbean. That population arrived in the 1800s

[@jimiwhat79]

I can only dream of having matches above a 120 cm which is my highest match, she connects to me trough my great great grandparents India estimates are very rough on ancestry.

[@SobrietyandSolace]

Yes there is a massive Indian diaspora in the Caribbean, particularly Trinidad and Tobago. They refer to people of mixed Afro-Indian descent as ‘dougla’ though some people feel weird about the word

[@deniaridley]

Jarrett, There was actually QUITE a bit of Indian migration into the Caribbean. Not only to the islands like Jamaica and Trinidad where my ancestors are from, but also to many countries bordering the Caribbean like Venezuela, Colombia and Costa Rica...again using my family as an example. (I was born in Panama, once par of Colombia.) These countries had a lot of Indian migration after slavery was abolished but also because workers like my grandfather were needed to build and then work on the Panama Canal just to name one known project. This would all fit in with the stories that were passed down to my generation. Yes, it's way past time for me to finally send off my DNA and boy, oh boy with this region of the world I expect DNA from the obvious black and indigenous populations of course. But I will not be surprised in the least if there's also Chinese DNA who also migrated to the area for jobs. Oh and of course Spain, France, and the British Isles given where the slave owners were from mostly. There's family stories of Jewish ancestors which I'd love to know the history behind too. Whew, I've a feeling my results might be very difficult and complicated to navigate. LOL I hope I have some matches that will shed some light!

[@lenka156]

I don't think it's unusual. We must realize that in the past, many times fewer people lived on the globe. So we, their descendants, are more related. When we did DNA tests in our family, we found out that my father and my husband's mother were 5. cousins. At the same time, our parents come from three different countries. However, neighboring.

[@chancelast6364]

New subscriber.. I'm loving these reactions!!I have always wanted to start my family tree. What would be a good starting point outside of doing a dna kit?

[@GeneaVlogger]

Start with what you know and build a basic tree on one of the tree hosting sites - I suggest Geni.com but also check out FamilySearch and WikiTree. Talk with family members, ask them what they know and add that into the tree. Once you have a starting place, start looking for records! FamilySearch is a free website to use with an extremely large database, so it is a great place to start looking. From there, it becomes detective-style work where the path can lead you all sorts of ways!

[@chancelast6364]

@@GeneaVlogger thanks for the response!!

[@sheliahilton4666]

She does dive in even more. She has dna videos for her sons and daughter too. You’ll even see her break out written family tree notes.

[@TheBarePantryShow]

I sure do. I love this stuff.

[@kroo07]

The Indian migration to the Caribbean is connected to the route the British took to get to India and back again. When slavery ended in the British Caribbean around 1830 there was an increasing need for low cost labour and India was such a source at that time.

[@chazbarclay]

My father is from the Caribbean (Jamaica) his grandmother was from India, she married a Irish man who migrated to Jamaica. My mothers family side comes from Poland, Germany , and Ireland settled late 1800s in Detroit. But yea, large Indian presence in the Caribbean. Huge melting pot, going back 100s of years. Awesome channel. Subbed.

[@conormcguire2376]

Me and my family took ancestry dna tests, I share 31% with my grandmother, 20% with my grandfather then just states 50% with each of my parents. So in cm that was Mother: 3,489cM 50% Father: 3,487cM 50% Paternal Grandmother: 2,130 cM 31% Paternal Grandfather: 1,371cM 20% Paternal half aunt: 626cm 9%

[@GenericUsername1388]

On my parents tests it showed them also as 4th-6th cousins so it's not a big deal

[@davidparke8896]

6:23 Punjab is in Northern India.

[@tallthinwavy3]

Also there are Indians in Indonesia 🇮🇩. I lived in Indonesia for 2 years as a boy. Also Chinese lived there. Some Indonesians are Christians. Hindus Indonesians on Bali.

[@ptolemeeselenion1542]

I haven't passed any DNA genealogy test because of both the defiance that some members of my family has toward this trend, the fact that I personally believe that running some reaearch on my DNA should be made on a common accord with anyone who share my family kinship, and also because I am not fond of the possibility my genomic data can be sold to a tierce. But I wouldn't be surprised if DNA tests within my family shows some degree of kinship from both parental sides. Both my father, maternal grandmother and maternal grandfather had a distant common ancestor.

[@you-know-who9023]

Indian migration was a result of the British empire. Countries in the Carribbean which have substantial Indian migration are the ones which were British colonies. This can also be seen in African countries which were previously British colonies. This migration would have occurred from late 18th century through the 19th century. During the British empire the colony of India comprised of modern day Pakistan Bangladesh and of course India. British rule ended in India In 1947/48. Mahatma Gandhi actually worked as a lawyer in South Africa when it was also part of the British empire. Most Carribbean countries achieved independence from Britain during the sixties and seventies. Belize may have been a little bit later or at least had a heavy British presence beyond 1980. Gigi was also a British colony and has a substantial Indian population although the population of Fidgi is small 👍🙋

[@RobwLPOC]

That is one I'm surprised you didn't know, I guess I know it from growing up around Vancouver British Columbia, but I was very aware there is a decent size population who are descendants of people originally from India living in Fiji. Just for an example, There are a lot of guys I've met who say they are Fijian with the last name Singh.... When you ask them about their background, they will tell you that they are FBI = Fijian born Indian. I also know guys who are native Fijian from playing soccer, they are almost always quite a bit darker skinned, almost Black. Yet they still have the facial features of people who are Polynesian like Samoan or Hawaiian they don't look like the black populations out of Australia or Africa even though they are closer to them in skin tone.

[@gopherlyn]

Yesterday, I was helping my friend find 1921 England Censuses, for relatives of hers, one of them was a cousin with the surname Cohen, and I said that sounds Jewish, so we started going backwards, 1911, 1901, 1891, and 1881, where we found the father who was born in Germany his name was Freeman Cohen.

[@sr2291]

That does sound like a Jewish name. Have you verified that?

[@cherylannsammy2769]

My family Indian roots are listed on Ancestry as North Indian, South Indian and Bengal. Three regions of India.

[@ConnorReilly35]

I find that whenever I confirm how DNA matches are related to me based on our trees, I tend to get one of the lower percentage relations (like 1-2%) MUCH more often than not.....any thoughts as to why this might be? I am from two endogamous populations (Southern Appalachia and the Caribbean) but only have a confirmed double cousin relation with a few of my matches.

[@fjdoucet1465]

People all over the world marry their cousins, even their first cousins. It's taboo in North America, but even that is fairly recent.

[@steverossini]

When doing genealogy and especially DNA.. careful what you're looking for. you just might find it.

[@tahamenepark]

Endogamy is not a common thing in the Caribbean there’s only a few islands that are known for this for example St Lucia.

[@user-si7ig6ul7l]

What's the chart in the background?

[@GeneaVlogger]

Writing Systems of the World, by Useful Charts - usefulcharts.com/products/writing-systems-of-the-world?aff=16

[@user-si7ig6ul7l]

@@GeneaVlogger awesome thanks

[@robintack2284]

Have you heard of the Arbreshe? It would be an awesome video, if you could find something on it.

[@silencesays228]

What are the different kinds of endogamy?

[@briarelyse5136]

Meh they're barely related, no worries there. I'm a bit biased though, I live in New Zealand and my Nanas family is from Shetland, so being related someway isn't a huge surprise.

[@m.r.7836]

Here's an update: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iYCYomyfiNeMbdE

[@kazzuo32]

I have seen a lot of indian in St. Thomas, St. Marteen. Today I received my ancestry results, I would like to sended to you. Tho I end up been a boring Pr 🤣😂.

[@zeenasworld]

This is what happened to me.

[@quinncole8122]

Southern native dravidindians are black race, they are a subgroup of the omoro horn Africans which is why u couldn't tell. Indian is an nationality with different races with admixtures.

[@AstroMartine]

Christ, this is why you should get these before getting married lol

[@GeneaVlogger]

While not exactly the same, a lot of people do blood tests before marrying (or having kids) to check for any diseases where they are both carriers.

[@AstroMartine]

@@GeneaVlogger Oh, I was considering getting one of those too, would you recommend them? Or have you done reviews of those medical genetic tests? (to spot faulty genes, disease tendency, food allergies etc)

[@fjdoucet1465]

They're barely related. Hardly any reason for concern.

[@balthazarbeutelwolf9097]

when seeing that you are genetically related to your spouse the actual relationship via a family tree is less of an issue than the plain centi-Morgan value, because the higher that is the bigger the chance that your children have picked up some genetic defect.

[@ettinakitten5047]

No, that risk would be reflected by the centimorgan value. The way it works - most people carry several recessive genetic traits that could cause disability if they were homozygous (inherited from both parents) but since they're heterozygous (inherited it from only one parent) they're fine. If you have kids with an unrelated person, you and that person most likely carry different recessive genes, because you don't share a lot of genes overall, so your children can't inherit the same recessive gene from both parents. However, if you two share a lot of genes in common, like relatives do, then there's a decent chance that some of the genes you share include recessive genes associated with disabilities, creating the potential that your child could inherit the same recessive gene from both of you.

[@sandyd-h9563]

Who are those people? Seems they need a geography lesson or 3

[@JediSimpson]

When my grandparents’ results came back, I checked to see if they’re DNA Matches. They weren’t, but I wasn’t expecting them to be.

[@sassoy3370]

First

[@bkwrmgal]

Sugarcane ... the British brought Indians to the Caribbeans to process it because they were under the British colonial rule and they are experts at it en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-Caribbeans#:~:text=Indo-Caribbeans%