Professional Jewellers First Reaction to Moissanite!

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cbilton.creator-spring.com Moissanite has been around for a long time however it seems recently it is really causing a stir in the jewellery trade.
Ive never seen moissanite before and I dont even know much about it so I decided to buy one!
I have mixed feelings about it. Im actually quite impressed with the stone but I dont like how its being created and marketed as a direct alternative to diamond.
Im blessed to have only ever worked with top quality diamonds through out my career (D,E,F colour GIA certified diamonds as a norm) and this stone simply is no where near as special as a D colour, vvs1, triple excellent diamond that it is pretending to be.
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@DiamondMounter
@DiamondMounter 3 жыл бұрын
If you love Moissannite there's a new video coming soon! I make a nice 4 claw earring with one 😉
@vanityrose6512
@vanityrose6512 2 жыл бұрын
Moissanite is graded very similarly becuase they are similar in composition... they are NOT being advertised as diamonds. They are NOT fake diamonds.... Clearly you are very bothered and biased. They were discovered in 1893 by Henri Moissan in a meteorite. A natrual moissanite btw its far more precious than a diamond every could be, however they only occur in small amounts. Luckily they found a way to replicate them and are affordable. 😉 A moissanite has a refractive index of 2.691 whike a diamond has has refractive index of 2.417 and gives off a rainbow 🌈 light while diamonds tend to give of a white refractive color. Moissanite also has more fire than diamonds .. if anything just watch the video by Charles and Colavrd the company who first patented moissanite
@simplesimon1436
@simplesimon1436 2 жыл бұрын
Diamonds are overrated and boring
@WeeHooLIVE
@WeeHooLIVE Жыл бұрын
@@vanityrose6512 Thank you for educating the masses. Moissanite is it's very own gemstone and not a fake. They are priced better than diamonds and give off brilliant shine!
@kansasboy691
@kansasboy691 Жыл бұрын
So am I correct in saying, Moissanite is "Man Made" & Lab Grown Diamonds are "Man Made?" Please correct me if I am wrong, but I have read several studies that claim Lab Grown Diamonds are "Real Diamonds", how can this be if it is man made? Just curious as to what the difference between Moissanite and Lab Grown diamonds area, they both seem man made. Thank you for what you do... cheers
@WeeHooLIVE
@WeeHooLIVE Жыл бұрын
@@kansasboy691 Instead of coming from the earth those same conditions are emulated in a lab. Both would still have all the same compositions of the natural "earth" grown ones, but were grown instead in laboratory.
@leahnagraham2886
@leahnagraham2886 3 жыл бұрын
I'ts not a fake diamond!! It is a REAL gemstone in its own right! Just because it isn't a diamond does not mean it's fake. It is a real gemstone just like emeralds, rubies, sapphires, etc.
@DiamondMounter
@DiamondMounter 3 жыл бұрын
I wish they would promote it as its own thing. I like the stone and it has an interesting story of its discovery so has its own value but its being sold as some kind of synthetic diamond!
@gianmarcogallardo9339
@gianmarcogallardo9339 3 жыл бұрын
sure it's not a fake diamond, but isn't a real gemstone either... the very most of all moissanite on the market is lab grown, since natural moissanite is extremely rare. Guess that's what's making the common judgement of it being fake, or a simulant, which if we think about just a little more criticly just makes sense on a commercial level, not substantially
@qeemtinageeny1063
@qeemtinageeny1063 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@vermouth989
@vermouth989 3 жыл бұрын
Even if its made by lab??
@leahnagraham2886
@leahnagraham2886 3 жыл бұрын
@UCY1BvlHMg1N3kHVxOPcCvow It’s not fake it’s lab grown. It’s chemically the exact same as moissanite found naturally. Silicon carbide..
@Brown4l
@Brown4l 3 жыл бұрын
This dude was more impressed with the moissanite than he cared to admit.
@Millzlane
@Millzlane 2 жыл бұрын
facts lmao
@-kryon1c-
@-kryon1c- 2 жыл бұрын
@Yutoob Isranby WS 😂😂
@creelokafor7378
@creelokafor7378 2 жыл бұрын
TBH
@mo-md5cw
@mo-md5cw 2 жыл бұрын
@Yutoob Isranby WS checks out especially considering his first reaction to the MOH rating at 13:16 was "maybe I'll try and destroy it."
@Heifzilla
@Heifzilla Жыл бұрын
DeBeers is shitting bricks, which is why these people look down on moissy. Diamonds are a scam anyway, DeBeers is artificially elevating the price.
@nannysrebornnursery6015
@nannysrebornnursery6015 3 жыл бұрын
Diamond sellers are ALWAYS going to say negative things about moissanite because the stone is way more beautiful than diamond and it’s ruining their sales
@monicabroussard840
@monicabroussard840 10 ай бұрын
Yep!
@DilaniDiva
@DilaniDiva 5 ай бұрын
ha ha ha yes.. I have a 5 carrot ring that is absolutely stunning.
@slicknick645
@slicknick645 3 жыл бұрын
Moissanite is actually more reflective than a diamond and is its own natural stone not a fake diamond.
@trilogy3x
@trilogy3x 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly not everybody understand that tho
@toxicginger9936
@toxicginger9936 2 жыл бұрын
This! It has a higher refractive index than a diamond.
@lancerooke
@lancerooke Жыл бұрын
You’re almost correct. But none of the moissanite you can buy is natural. It’s so incredibly rare in nature that to get the stone to consumers, it has to be made in a lab. Personally, I have no problem with lab stones. I love that we have the capacity to make gems.
@internetjunky4327
@internetjunky4327 Жыл бұрын
@@lancerooke well I think that makes it ethical. Like lab created diamonds. At least you know people didn't die over it.
@lancerooke
@lancerooke Жыл бұрын
@@internetjunky4327 Except that people dying over it makes it that much more valuable. I like lab stones anyway. They’re chemically identical to their naturally formed counterparts and they tend to cost a lot less. This means that you can get a whole lot more bang for your buck. And generally, lab stones are more perfect. Fewer flaws/inclusions.
@teresapaskell5459
@teresapaskell5459 3 жыл бұрын
The diamond market is a total scam. You buy a diamond and ask how much the jeweller would buy it back for. Immediately you are offered half the price you just paid. Yeh definitely an investment
@JcLazy1
@JcLazy1 3 жыл бұрын
Yup. Better off buying gold, silver or platinum.
@DiamondMounter
@DiamondMounter 3 жыл бұрын
@@JcLazy1 Buy bitcoin!
@rrfields65
@rrfields65 3 жыл бұрын
@@DiamondMounter : nyet ! any thing that is dependent on electric/internet trade is meaningless! you have too have solid tangible procession , gold/silver/platinum/gemstones!
@Z800_
@Z800_ 3 жыл бұрын
Bruh thats the market not only with diamonds
@Jagaban1264
@Jagaban1264 3 жыл бұрын
@@Z800_ Exactly, even gold.
@loriswayne577
@loriswayne577 3 жыл бұрын
Dude! Its not a fake diamond. Its a moissanite.
@rogerhargreaves2272
@rogerhargreaves2272 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, it’s a gemstone in its own right. Not a fake diamond as you say.
@qeemtinageeny1063
@qeemtinageeny1063 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@gwynnethsmith9226
@gwynnethsmith9226 3 жыл бұрын
Yep. It's it's own gem for sure. Replica of space gem found on metorites. Brilliant and beautiful. Not a diamond simulant. Though a great alternative.
@rogerhargreaves2272
@rogerhargreaves2272 3 жыл бұрын
@@gwynnethsmith9226 - indeed, I’ve got some natural Silicone Carbide & it’s beautiful, it looks like it’s been rolled in glitter. Arizona impact site. Stay safe. Rog from Wales 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿.
@ifechifilmz2007
@ifechifilmz2007 3 жыл бұрын
Whhaha yes, he dont even know.
@knocc1
@knocc1 3 жыл бұрын
Its hilarious how he was searching for every reason not to like it, only to realize he likes it 🤣
@MrFlawsy
@MrFlawsy Жыл бұрын
Lol right😂
@onamissiontv
@onamissiontv 3 жыл бұрын
A jeweler that has never heard of moissanite?! Sounds like you just don't like the quality you see because of the price difference, moissanite is taking over buddy, just embrace it 😂
@g_8439
@g_8439 3 жыл бұрын
And not just a jeweler "professional jeweler". 🙄
@TK-uy7zm
@TK-uy7zm 3 жыл бұрын
@@g_8439 😂😂🤣🤣
@trilogy3x
@trilogy3x 2 жыл бұрын
And that shit ain’t as cheap as he makes it seem
@Daveyboyz1978
@Daveyboyz1978 2 жыл бұрын
I was a pawnbroker so I heard about them because they test as diamond and we didn't want to lose our money. (I have never seen one though because they weren't common back then) As a guy who sits at the bench why would he know about them? He worked in a high end gaff that wouldn't go near such things.
@Yahsbsuq
@Yahsbsuq Жыл бұрын
I bet if this stone was valued higher than diamonds his attitude about it would change. Basic consumer psychology. Because it’s less expensive most automatically assume it’s lower quality/ less desirable.
@kenv2667
@kenv2667 3 жыл бұрын
Diamond fans hates moissanite because it is ruining the diamond "market". Moissanite is 2nd only to diamond in hardness, thus better than any other stones. It's not a "fake" space stone. It was originally discovered from meteorite, which then man can now duplicate perfectly. Diamond market is a scam anyways. Moissanite is great. It can be passed to generation and generations, like a diamond, maintaining it's beauty for years. Which is the it's main purpose. Heat can destroy diamond easier than moissanite
@Millzlane
@Millzlane 2 жыл бұрын
I heard from a rabbi that diamonds are plenty and marked up on purpose to kill in profits. Diamond markets been a scam since before Lab diamonds and moissanite
@komedee3739
@komedee3739 2 жыл бұрын
Grandma passes down a moissanite ring. Resale value $5 thaaaannnks
@nebblepoppishire3037
@nebblepoppishire3037 2 жыл бұрын
@@komedee3739 So the first thing you do with an inherited family heirloom is check its resale value? No wonder you’re getting a $5 ring lol
@dfuen2
@dfuen2 2 жыл бұрын
There’s a video of a diamond, moissanite and 2 cz all being heated at a high temperature, the diamond was the only one that was completely ruined and turned cloudy. The moissanite did turn back into its original color which is yellow but was still very shiny and reflected light.
@kyoufujibayashi5913
@kyoufujibayashi5913 Жыл бұрын
@@nebblepoppishire3037 true, he's more interested with it's monetary value than its real intangible worth
@angelesepierre-louis5615
@angelesepierre-louis5615 3 жыл бұрын
This video comes off as kinda pretentious, moissanite is it’s own stone, it’s hardly trying to be a diamond. Just because they are two predominantly colorless stones that are popular in jewelry doesn’t mean one is trying to copy the other. That’d be like saying white sapphire is trying to be a diamond. Diamond people are so strange, they constantly feel threatened by strange things that wouldn’t change the diamond trade if diamonds are so “rare” and “special.” It’s because they know they’re not special, they’re just overpriced pieces of carbon. It’s okay if you like those overpriced pieces of carbon (I do too), but stop trying to make them something they are not and stop acting like you’re better than someone because you have one, it’s intrinsically worthless. We add value to the stones in our engagement rings, whether it’s a ruby, an emerald, a sapphire, a moissanite, etc. They’re all equally beautiful. I have a diamond engagement ring myself, I’m just not an asshole about it.
@papaaaru6528
@papaaaru6528 3 жыл бұрын
In short he salty they made a gem that sparkles more for a fraction of the cost also salty that they didn't make a whole new measurement system for this one particular gemstone
@user-su8yv3fi5w
@user-su8yv3fi5w 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliantly well said. I found his video condescending, he’s a jeweller who’s never heard of Moissanite? Yet Moissanite has been available for a least 20+ years! Every one who knows what Moissanite is knows it’s it’s own jewel which just so happens to look similar to a diamond. I’d never buy a diamond not because of any ethical reason but because they are way way over priced for what they are making jewellers very rich, diamonds are no longer an investment because unless you know exactly what you are buying and understand diamond gradings which most consumers don’t your going to be 100% ripped off.
@leitanewman8991
@leitanewman8991 3 жыл бұрын
I love everything that you said, and totally agree 👍
@supernova11711
@supernova11711 2 жыл бұрын
He warned up at the end…once he figured out how it could actually benefit him lol
@HumanAction1
@HumanAction1 Жыл бұрын
This "jeweler" didn't even know what moissanite was and read the Wikipedia page on camera 🤡. Seriously, what kind of jeweler never heard of moissanite 😂😂😂😂 Dude sucks
@callmedru
@callmedru 3 жыл бұрын
A diamond is single refractive whilst a moissanite is double refractive. Labelling a moissanite as a fake diamond is the same as labelling a spinel as a fake sapphire. Ive sold more than a couple of jewelry, mainly gemstones, to friends and family. Most dont care what it is as long as its pretty and sparkly
@Vicky-po6ve
@Vicky-po6ve 3 жыл бұрын
Him boasting about how he's been working only with diamonds and then saying "diamond is double refractive or whatever" really destroyed his credibility lmao
@callmedru
@callmedru 3 жыл бұрын
@@Vicky-po6ve some people are just brainwashed to believe that diamonds are the irreplaceable and this is definitely not true, i uploaded a video of a ring i made for my cousin a couple years back just to prive a point. Check it out if you want. P.s. im not selling anything just sharing
@Vicky-po6ve
@Vicky-po6ve 3 жыл бұрын
@@callmedru beautiful ring! I agree that people seem to be hyperfocused on diamonds as the only option for engagement rings. I think diamonds are beautiful in their own way and moissanite has its own charm. I couldn't decide between a lab diamond and a moissanite for a while but ended up getting the moissanite because of all that F I R E.
@callmedru
@callmedru 3 жыл бұрын
@@Vicky-po6ve they each have their own charm. I gifted my mom a 5 carat moissanite ring and she loves it! She actually wears it more often than her "real" diamond ring, lol.
@cordelballenger6244
@cordelballenger6244 3 жыл бұрын
It is not a fake diamond. It is an Moissanite, a gem in its own.
@mrbutch308
@mrbutch308 4 ай бұрын
All moissanite in the jewelry market is synthetic (lab grown) and not natural. It has been found in nature but those specimens are extremely rare and you'll never see one in jewelry.
@rogerhargreaves2272
@rogerhargreaves2272 3 жыл бұрын
Some corrections there. There is natural Diamond & lab created Diamond, both of these are structurally the same. Moissanite is made from Silicon Carbide. Natural silicone carbide is rare, I own some and it tests positive for diamond. It looks like grey lava covered in glitter and is ejected from meteorite craters.
@lacedwithgame8430
@lacedwithgame8430 3 жыл бұрын
24 years in the business and never heard of moissanite but it was discovered by Henri Moissan over 150 years ago
@bennyfromthebronx2993
@bennyfromthebronx2993 3 жыл бұрын
@Stephen Lee 😅😅
@TK-uy7zm
@TK-uy7zm 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
@nov23gbe
@nov23gbe Жыл бұрын
says alot
@williamwatson3516
@williamwatson3516 Жыл бұрын
Agreed 💯
@adolfodemotta5185
@adolfodemotta5185 3 жыл бұрын
Moisanite is rarer in nature than diamond. It's like 30 times more rare
@kyoufujibayashi5913
@kyoufujibayashi5913 Жыл бұрын
Yes, natural moissanite is. And it's prettier!!
@deathatthefeast5326
@deathatthefeast5326 3 жыл бұрын
Dude is really bothered by this. He knows this hurts his bottom end. To bad they are taking over lmfao.
@AmmoniteDragon
@AmmoniteDragon 2 жыл бұрын
I first heard about moissanite when I was studing for my geology bachelor's degree. I never understood why it got so conflated with the diamond market, since it has such different mineral properties. It has a higher refractive index than diamond (that's why it has more "fire" or looks "fake" to some people), but honestly I like that about it! It disturbs me how many people try to cut moissanites to be less brilliant just so they seem more diamond-like. I think they should be treasured as a super cool gemstone in their own right and not some diamond substitute!
@JMac-27
@JMac-27 3 жыл бұрын
He looks so nervous, when you know your diamond based business is fooked 🤣
@lunadexelaju3494
@lunadexelaju3494 3 жыл бұрын
As an anniversary gift, my husband gave me a Moissanite gemstone ring, it's SO beautiful. Im very happy with it. I would NOT have been happy if he had indebted himself THOUSANDS of dollars just to buy me a diamond ring. Even if we could afford to spend that kind of $, diamond rings on their own are sooooo expensive.
@GiftSparks
@GiftSparks 3 жыл бұрын
I totally agree- when you are planning or already have a life together- there are far more important things to spend money on than a gem on your finger.
@monicabroussard840
@monicabroussard840 10 ай бұрын
​@@GiftSparksexactly 💯
@Vicky-po6ve
@Vicky-po6ve 3 жыл бұрын
Some diamond expert you are... "Diamonds have a double refraction or whatever" - diamond is a single refractive mineral. Moissanite is not. That's one of the telltale signs of it.
@gianmarcogallardo9339
@gianmarcogallardo9339 3 жыл бұрын
you rock!!!
@MS-fz2ps
@MS-fz2ps 3 жыл бұрын
I was just going to comment the same!
@DisHammerhand
@DisHammerhand 3 жыл бұрын
I look for the double refraction to make sure I wasn't sold a CZ.
@mcj7568
@mcj7568 3 жыл бұрын
I love moissanite. I didn't for many years because it was more yellow but they've perfected it to a clear sparkly stone. It is my go to choice now. I love diamonds but even DeBeers said that diamonds are innately worthless. The value is the marketing of love emotion and memory that is attached. DeBeers has had the market cornered for YEARS. If I can purchase a beautiful, more sparkly stone for 75%+ less than a diamond but just as hard, why not? Its not like you can sell a diamond back for what you purchased it for.🤷🏽‍♀️
@enigmarocker
@enigmarocker 3 жыл бұрын
Real diamonds are basically a ripoff anyways, so moissanite is an amazingly good alternative. Buying a brand new expensive diamond wont even resell for the same price a decade later, it'll be less valuable most likely..."real" mined diamonds arent a good investment and there's been market manipulation around real diamonds forever now. Also, once lab made diamonds became a reality it made genuine mined diamonds even less valuable. You cant make gold and silver in a lab yet, and thats why the precious metals are still such an awesome store of value. Awesome video! I enjoyed watching you work through analyzing the stone. Thank you.
@steeviem1835
@steeviem1835 3 жыл бұрын
The code is so jewellers know it's NOT a diamond.
@Dakiniwoman
@Dakiniwoman 3 жыл бұрын
Why didn't you do your research on what Moissanites are BEFORE you made this video?... They have a very fascinating History... Learn about them!!! I just got my first two Moissanites... one is a 3 carat pink and has a lazer-etched registered number on it!! Wow... it is mind-blowing how beautiful it is and the one carat white one also... so much more beautiful than my natural diamonds.! Moissanites are NOT Fake Diamonds... they are real Moissanites... something completely different than Diamonds...
@HumanAction1
@HumanAction1 Жыл бұрын
Imagine giving this guy your money for anything? Lmao I'd run so fast in the other direction if I saw this as a potential client
@Johnbro8
@Johnbro8 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your skills, I have set two mossanite stones both certificated, I and the client were really pleased with the finish and that the stone seemed to have a greater fire than a diamond. Diamonds are fine if the client has the money to buy, but this is a very good alternative.
@orq8209
@orq8209 2 жыл бұрын
I learned nothing!
@1bsubsnouploads823
@1bsubsnouploads823 Жыл бұрын
His skills? What kind of jewler doesnt know what moissanite is LOL
@renablythman6243
@renablythman6243 3 жыл бұрын
I have a moissanite ring its simply beautiful, can't believe you don't know anything about it , like most of the reviews say its not a fake diamond its a moissanite , anyone thinking of buying one you won't regret it
@mahtoosacks
@mahtoosacks 3 жыл бұрын
I got a Charles and Colvard forever one 10x8 oval for my soon to be wife (to be married in 3 days) ring. It was her choice to go moissanite. I made the setting after watching your, and countless other, videos. Im just starting in this adventure with the purpose to make her a ring. Silver setting, 2mm white sapphires in under halo and band. Turned out a lot better than i had hoped. The stone is awesome. You're right, you can tell it's not the same as diamond, but it is brilliant in full sunlight. Very bright, and lots of fire. Doesnt have the weight of a diamond, but doesnt feel cheap like a cz. Also, not being $80,000 helps.
@DiamondMounter
@DiamondMounter 3 жыл бұрын
Congrats! Ah yeah I forgot to compare it in daylight vs artificial light. Thats great you are making it yourself Im very glad the videos have been useful!
@Brightleigh
@Brightleigh Жыл бұрын
CZ is actually heavier than diamond.
@gaylecooley3630
@gaylecooley3630 Жыл бұрын
This is so interesting to watch. It's not a fake diamond, it's a real moissanite!! I personally love moissanite, it sparkles more than a diamond, is almost as hard, and is very affordable. Is it a viable alternative to diamonds? Of course it is! I personally hate that the diamond industry has really fabricated pricing and created a myth that ONLY a diamond is a worthy expression of love. The moissanite industry creates beautiful stones and jewelry that will last a lifetime, without breaking the bank. I have both diamonds and moissanite and can honestly say, I will never buy another diamond again, in fact I may sell my diamonds and just keep my moissies.
@annkelly0072
@annkelly0072 3 жыл бұрын
I made my husband buy me a Moissanite ring to replace the family heirloom he proposed to me with. He custom made it to look like my grandmother's ring. His family heirloom, which is a monstrosity, an absolutely hideous rose cut monster sits in the safe. I wear my Moissanite ring (2.8 karat, OMC) every day & get tons of compliments. Also, many people prefer Moissanite or lab-created diamonds due to environmental factors & human factors. Smart to add a line into your business!
@lilacollins1408
@lilacollins1408 2 жыл бұрын
It’s so funny that you really didn’t want to like it, but you liked it. To me, this is a beautiful sparkly gemstone that requires no unethical mining. It’s not a fake diamond, it’s just a different brilliant gemstone. Enjoy it. Why shouldn’t everyone have an accessible, beautiful stone?
@theunseen8054
@theunseen8054 3 жыл бұрын
It’s interesting because, the man who discovered it initially thought it was a diamond for 11 years, until he realized it wasn’t. So. If it fooled the man who discovered it and it costs less, so why not buy it instead of a diamond?
@TsetsiStoyanova
@TsetsiStoyanova 3 жыл бұрын
They are grading it differently. And it is very very similar in chemical composition to the diamonds
@DiamondMounter
@DiamondMounter 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Tsetsi I know your channel from years ago! They are chemically similar but look quite different under a microscope. The ones available for jewellery are always synthetic versions
@Edsnyder486
@Edsnyder486 3 жыл бұрын
The beautiful stone that cost less
@JonathanVardon
@JonathanVardon 3 жыл бұрын
I find your language throughout this video kind of annoying. Moissanite is its own stone and is being sold as such - You, as a professional, should treat it as an independent stone. You called it “fake diamond,” “space/meteorite diamond” several times and in doing so are perpetuating the idea that someone might try to pass this off as a diamond. It is sold as it's own independent stone in many places, including where ever you got yours from. Yes this certificate is copying the look of a diamond certificate but that does make a bit of sense as it is sold as a diamond alternative. People considering the two may ask for these details. Also, the paperwork does make it clear that this isn’t a diamond. To your point, because all moissanite that is sold in the jewellery trade is man-made and, as far as I know, internally flawless, it does seem a bit arbitrary to include those ratings on a certificate since the grade is the same for all stones. I had hoped that you, as a professional, would have given a more objective description of this stone. Talk about it’s dispersion, refractive index, and lustre. You boasted that you have worked with amazing diamonds and yet you couldn’t tell us what made this different - “there’s just something off about it” isn’t a good enough take from a professional - a layman could have said that.
@user-su8yv3fi5w
@user-su8yv3fi5w 3 жыл бұрын
Well said. I agree, he’s kinda crap isn’t he! Hasn’t a clue what he’s talking about yet calls himself a jeweller !? when Moissanite has been available for more that 20 years!
@dickiewongtk
@dickiewongtk 2 жыл бұрын
He makes a living on diamonds, what do you expect?
@MrsPaulaTorres
@MrsPaulaTorres 2 жыл бұрын
Oh piss off and go buy some more fake diamonds will ya 🤣🤣🤣
@hanamoreton6543
@hanamoreton6543 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, that was really interesting to get your take on it. I haven’t worked with either diamond or this stone, but I can aspire! Looking forward to seeing what you create with this!
@Gemini530
@Gemini530 3 жыл бұрын
So I wonder if he actually made a ring for it. I personally prefer moissanite over a diamond. Not just because it’s cheaper, but I just think it’s more gorgeous than a diamond. I already have 3 rings with moissanites as their center stone. One round and one emerald cut. Had to use real diamonds on the sides since they don’t make small moissanites yet.
@steeviem1835
@steeviem1835 3 жыл бұрын
Me, too
@gwynnethsmith9226
@gwynnethsmith9226 3 жыл бұрын
It took them awhile to prefect it as itself. Because it took awhile to figure out how to replicate a gem that came from outer space...Yeah "Ohhh a space stone". They're gorgeous! Better than a blood diamond. It should have its own certification. It shouldn't be touted as a diamond. It's lovely on its own.
@XVRickXV
@XVRickXV 3 жыл бұрын
Synthetic stones ARE real stones. Also no they aren't trying to pass it off as a diamond. On the certificate, really big you can see that it says moissanite twice. There are certificates like this for other expensive gemstones like rubies, emeralds, sapphires... also try telling apart one moissanite in between 10 other diamonds the same size. I dont care how many years experience you have, you won't be able to tell which is the diamond. This is why they have equipment to tell them them apart. Once you need all this complicated setup just to figure out which is which, dont you think it lowers the value of diamonds? I think this is what makes so many people angry about moisanites. Kind of what happened to African Amethyst after brazilian amethyst was found. Both real stones but Amethyst is no longer considered a precious stone like it used to be because it is so common now.
@misterjwestcoast
@misterjwestcoast Жыл бұрын
It is promoted to be its own stone. It’s also been around for a long time, over 15 years at lease.
@toxicginger9936
@toxicginger9936 2 жыл бұрын
10:30 "I don't know nothing about Moissanite, is it been around like years?" YUP! I've been wearing my 1.5 ct Moissanite earrings for the last 18 years, so I'm baffled that you just recently learned about it. Back in '04, '05, '06 when I'd walk into a jewelry store, I'd get 'those are gorgeous diamond earrings'... I was (and am) proud to say 'they're Moissanite, not diamond'. They always offered to clean them for me so they could take a closer look. Moissanite is a gorgeous gem in its own right.
@Angiehere-1
@Angiehere-1 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t think of it as a fake Diamond. Think of it as a beautiful Moissanite!
@faeleia
@faeleia 3 жыл бұрын
You sound like you are biased against it before you actually looked at the Moissanite. Which I guess is a fair reaction, but I was hoping to learn more about the differences. Objective language is helpful as opposed to asking Siri like "what the hell is a moissanite?" I believe it should be looked at with objectivity and talked about as a separate stone, of its own merits and faults. The GRA copying GIA is a good start for interesting information, but that's how it is marketed by sneaky people and through no fault of the stone itself. Perhaps a comparison to show people the differences and why it justifies the price difference will be useful to laypeople like myself trying to learn more
@DiamondMounter
@DiamondMounter 3 жыл бұрын
I like the stone I ended the video saying I want to make a range of jewellery with moissanite.
@3sbon
@3sbon 3 жыл бұрын
he actually likes moissanite, he's just British.
@neeko4676
@neeko4676 2 жыл бұрын
I specifically asked my partner to purchase me a moissanite over a diamond. I love the sparkle of a moissanite over a diamond. The only people who hate mossanites are people who rely on the diamond trade.
@whateverdudes
@whateverdudes 3 жыл бұрын
I remember one time at a high end auction show with my dad looking at an entire case of huge beautiful diamonds that I could no way afford. For some reason I couldn't take my eyes off one of them. We checked the catalogue and turned out that it wasn't the biggest, clearest or best color of the crowd but it was cut perfectly (SUWA brand). That's when I realized how important cutting was to a diamond and that experience stuck with me.
@DiamondMounter
@DiamondMounter 3 жыл бұрын
Yes its so important!
@rrfields65
@rrfields65 3 жыл бұрын
1$t = Carat 2nd = Cut 3rd = Clarity 4th= Color
@BunillaMisaki
@BunillaMisaki 3 жыл бұрын
I got an engagement ring with moissannite and I love it. We agreed on it with my partner because it ment I could have a more interesting/elaborate design (price wise) and I felt it was more ethical. It shimmers so much more than my friends diamond ring too. I love it so so much and 10/10 would do again. Tho I think unfortunately you need to have a thick skin to have it as an engagement ring because there are a lot of ppl who act like it's a fake and refuse to understand that it is it's own stone separate from a diamond. So if appearances are important to you be mindful it can make for some awkward conversations. Otherwise like I said it's super beautiful
@LADY_OF_A_CERTAIN_AGE
@LADY_OF_A_CERTAIN_AGE Жыл бұрын
I've got a few diamond rings. Firstly a moissanite is a gem in its own right. The second hardest stone after a diamond. When my fiancé proposed I was adamant that I didn't want a diamond, only a moissanite. I'd treated myself to a couple. We'd both been married twice before (to other people) and on my 50th birthday he proposed. Now, had I been younger, I would not have minded. But at this age I felt a diamond would be a waste of money and I'd preferred to put the difference towards our pension trust. The shine is so beautiful, I actually prefer them to diamonds. The prices are great and anyone who cannot afford a diamond will not be disappointed with a moissanite. Cubic zirconia get dull after a few weeks. But my moissy is as shiny as it was when he put it in my finger. People need to realise that not everyone can afford a diamond. I love them. And those jewellers who laughed. Shame on them. Moissanites are slowly taking over.
@SD-co9xe
@SD-co9xe Жыл бұрын
I can afford a diamond but I prefer moissonite actually, just for the qualities of the stone. Plus the price isn’t artificially inflated and it is ethically sourced.
@colombo14
@colombo14 3 жыл бұрын
if you find a moissanite in nature or in a meteor then its way more expensive than diamonds. its way more rare and the light reflects better than diamond.
@mamihashimoto1429
@mamihashimoto1429 2 жыл бұрын
Moissanite is a gemstone in its own right. Just because they are grown in lab doesn't make them fake (just as lab grown diamonds are real diamonds).
@joannemaguire2921
@joannemaguire2921 Жыл бұрын
There is a tester for moissanite.High end jewelry stores have them
@rufusbayne2230
@rufusbayne2230 3 жыл бұрын
I have several moissanite rings. I love all of them. They're beautiful and I can wear them everyday without worrying about damaging them. I don't buy jewelry as an investment. That's a quick way to go broke. Just like cars jewelry looses value them moment you buy it. I don't buy moissanite as a diamond "alternative". I buy moissanite because I prefer it over diamonds.
@DisHammerhand
@DisHammerhand 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think double refraction is the word you were looking for to describe the way a diamond handles light. Moissanite is doubly refractive ie birefringent, diamond is not. It's a Moissanite, not a diamond. I like it for its own characteristics. I have a nice diamond which I enjoy very much but I also enjoy the space stone.
@MadroscMysli
@MadroscMysli 3 жыл бұрын
I can see the moissanite guys rubbing their hands together while grinning when a pro gia jeweler says moissanite cut and clarity is quite nice
@DiamondMounter
@DiamondMounter 3 жыл бұрын
I was surprised its cut was amazing lol
@MagnitudeUK
@MagnitudeUK 3 жыл бұрын
Each stone has it's own beauty - I wish more people would appreciate each stone (Even CZ) like it is, rather than comparing it to a diamond. I personally love Garnets and Amethysts... Speaking of, Do you know where i could get a 12 x 20 mm emerald cut amethyst from? P.S. have you had a go at sweat soldering?
@kaythenlam9138
@kaythenlam9138 3 жыл бұрын
Moissanite and diamonds are graded the same the only thing that’s different is that moissanite is not graded in cut. They are graded differently for cut. So basically 3 Cs instead of 4 Cs. Moissanite isn’t fake. It’s real and can be found in nature. It’s just more rare than a diamond because moissanite that is found in nature is to small to make into a gemstone so it’s lab made. And it does have more refraction than a diamond 2x more fire.
@TinglyRelic
@TinglyRelic Жыл бұрын
I purposely chose this stone over all of the other options including diamond. I loved the way the forever brilliant looked. My wife loves her ring it’s completely non traditional ring it’s a rose with a stone set in the center and two small buds on each side had it custom made in wax then cast into white gold.
@patriciajohnson5237
@patriciajohnson5237 2 жыл бұрын
I would like to see a video review of the Charles and Colvard forever one (DEF) colorless moissanite. The original producer of moissanite. I have owned a Charles and Colvard 1.5 round moissanite set in 14k yellow gold for over 10 years now and still counting. It's as beautiful as the day I received it. I still received compliments today. To clean it, I use a colorless mild liquid soap, warm water, and a soft baby toothbrush at least once a week most of the time more or less. The moissanite has its own category. Like all other precious and semi-precious gemstones. I welcomed the newcomer. I enjoyed your video.
@MrsMetamorphosis
@MrsMetamorphosis 2 жыл бұрын
It was beautiful to see your change of heart. It’s a pretty awesome stone!
@DiamondMounter
@DiamondMounter 2 жыл бұрын
Im making a ring for a moissanite at the moment. Most of the time I like it its just when it flashes lots of colours Im a bit put off
@denisesheehan9189
@denisesheehan9189 2 жыл бұрын
To me, like diamond, a moissanite is also a durable long term stone, unlike zirconia, that may scratch more easily. It is not pretending to be a diamond, it's another durable stone. It's synthetic, not fake.
@murcatus50
@murcatus50 3 жыл бұрын
I have heard moissanite is now GIA certified!
@rrfields65
@rrfields65 3 жыл бұрын
Moissanite is F and DEF colorless right out the oven! It doesn't have to be GIA certificate !
@florence1395
@florence1395 3 жыл бұрын
It definitely is!
@FrancisR420
@FrancisR420 2 жыл бұрын
@@rrfields65 for the cutting
@kickingbutt2182
@kickingbutt2182 Жыл бұрын
I think it's more beautiful then a diamond..colors that reflect are nice
@crystaltelix236
@crystaltelix236 3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha this guy is so hurt that Moissanite is just as beautiful (more beautiful, in my opinion) than a diamond. Also, a great price. The diamond industry is such a scam.
@Aslanreturn
@Aslanreturn 3 жыл бұрын
I prefer moissanite over diamond. Moissanite has double refraction, which gives it all the lovely colors. It's so beautiful. It is not a fake diamond.
@community-fusionnetwork4131
@community-fusionnetwork4131 3 жыл бұрын
That's not what double refraction is. You're thinking of dispersion, which is what gives it the colors. Double refraction is actually a terrible thing for Moissanite, because every internal reflection is doubled, making it blurry, versus diamond, which is singly refractive
@Tina06019
@Tina06019 3 жыл бұрын
Moissanites are very beautiful, and I certainly understand why people like them. But I prefer the white fire of diamonds to the rainbow fire of moissanites, so my little 30 point diamond pleases me very much, more than a larger moissanite would. And I think lab-created diamonds are fantastic, because they cost less and they are conflict-free. To each their own!
@sapphireluna4818
@sapphireluna4818 Жыл бұрын
Exactly, to each their own! 😊 I prefer moissanites, but that’s only a personal preference. Diamonds aren’t going anywhere and will always retain their own extremely special value!
@aheimdahl5201
@aheimdahl5201 Жыл бұрын
I just discovered Moissanite, and I have fallen head over heels in love with it - IMO it is more beautiful than a Diamond. As far as I am concerned, Moissanite is a Gem unto itself. As I am Retired my Diamond buying days are over, lol and Moissanite allows me to have beautiful, sparkly Stone jewelry without the prohibitive cost of Diamonds. I am glad to have an ethical and affordable alternative to Diamond and a durable and stable alternative to Cubic Zirconia. Moissanite is a dream come true.
@papaaaru6528
@papaaaru6528 3 жыл бұрын
Its a fucking gem they're not gonna make a whole new measurement system because it makes you less money this is like watching a oil tycoon review a tesla
@alb673
@alb673 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, can I ask a non jewellery related question. How did you end up in Japan, and was it difficult to set up business there for a foreigner? Cheers
@loredanarosimodesti4799
@loredanarosimodesti4799 2 жыл бұрын
I have a beautiful gold ring with moissanite and I love it! I think the diamonds sellers are worried to loose customer because of moissanite and are degrading it as much as they can.....but it will be a lost battle. I do not care about the reselling value I do not wish to sell it being them diamonds or moissanites I like the sparkles and the affordability of moissanite compared to diamond. :)
@GandalfPassing
@GandalfPassing 3 жыл бұрын
you sound open-minded, which is good. i know it would be difficult for a lifelong jeweller to see a new stone like this. but just like the other commenter, i think it is poor choice to call moissanite "fake". and as for it being created in a lab/mining, i don't see why people see it as a good thing that humanity wastes time/effort/oil to go and mine gemstones when you can create them synthetically. what is so great about having to go and destroy the environment to mine something?
@rrfields65
@rrfields65 3 жыл бұрын
all economic political monopoly! Debeers is holding hoards of VVS 1 - 2 colors grade I thru N ... and their site holders are cancelling their contracts for "Lab created Diamond & Moissanite" !
@JayDub_143
@JayDub_143 3 жыл бұрын
I would LOVE to see what you make with this moisonite! Another selling point to this stone is the mining process of diamonds and how horrible it is not only for the earth but also the health of the miner. I personally would prefer a moisonite because of these reasons alone. I would absolutely LOVE to have my bridal rings to be made of moisonite set in sterling. Thank you for sharing this with us. I really enjoyed this video but do agree it would be nice if they would create their own style certification! I think the replication of the proper GIA certificate makes the stone seem more counterfeit and thats unfortunate for such a beautiful stone.
@DiamondMounter
@DiamondMounter 3 жыл бұрын
Yes exactly. I like the stone when I think of it as a moissanaite with its interesting story of how it was discovered but then I see its being sold as a cheap diamond alternative and immediately it doesn't seem desirable anymore
@JayDub_143
@JayDub_143 3 жыл бұрын
@@DiamondMounter couldn't agree more!
@paulcarlachapman628
@paulcarlachapman628 Жыл бұрын
I chose moissanite because I didn't want to spend many thousands of dollars on a ring but enjoy the diamond look. If anyone comments on my ring I tell them frankly that it's moissanite, not diamond. I love my ring and have nothing to hide. It has been a good choice.
@GiftSparks
@GiftSparks 3 жыл бұрын
You look so very young. When you said you had worked for 24 years, my jaw just dropped. Great channel!
@DiamondMounter
@DiamondMounter 3 жыл бұрын
Haha thank you. Im 42 this year. My hair is going more grey every week. Look and notice it change in future videos lol
@HumanAction1
@HumanAction1 Жыл бұрын
​@DiamondMounter You're likely 44 now. Never too late to change that sh!t attitude of yours chum lol
@PsalmMiracle
@PsalmMiracle Жыл бұрын
Have have a ring that’s made out of this, and it shines beautifully to this day had it for about 5 years now! And as described it passes diamond tests
@madagrosu1713
@madagrosu1713 2 жыл бұрын
Hey sir,I have a question if you would be kind to answer.i saw a gem testing machine,for natural stones,they put a natural diamond in it and it scanned it the light was blue,then they scanned a cvd diamond and te light was red.if the chemical composition is the same,what is the diffrence ,between them,?and how does this scanner work,what does it scan? Thank you
@DiamondMounter
@DiamondMounter 2 жыл бұрын
No idea how they work sorry
@maceehoffman4531
@maceehoffman4531 3 жыл бұрын
You should try to burn it! its pretty cool! you wont ruin it! it will turn super bright yellow, then once it cools it fades back to its original color. this is how moissanite is more durable than a diamond. also the silica encapsulates the carbon so it wont loose its size over time like diamonds.
@rexgeorg7324
@rexgeorg7324 3 жыл бұрын
Im Impressed with da rock so its rearer than diamonds if its natural its pronounced as in noise but with an M Moise en nite
@helenalovelock1030
@helenalovelock1030 2 жыл бұрын
What is the best grade, colour, cut or specifications of a Moissanete stone ?
@bretmelton7116
@bretmelton7116 3 жыл бұрын
Very good video, I've seen many that try to talk about the differences but don't really discuss them
@flyingcheff
@flyingcheff 3 жыл бұрын
"D" is usually more white looking, yes? This looks very dark grey. How much was it?
@gregsmith1641
@gregsmith1641 3 жыл бұрын
I love how triggered you get at moissanite.
@DiamondMounter
@DiamondMounter 3 жыл бұрын
Haha I actually like the stone. I bought another one recently. But compared to the diamond its pretending to be on the certificate its nothing special
@gregsmith1641
@gregsmith1641 3 жыл бұрын
@@DiamondMounter Why is it not special? What makes a diamond better? The hardness?
@DiamondMounter
@DiamondMounter 3 жыл бұрын
@@gregsmith1641 A diamond of the grade that this moissannite says it is on the certificate is ssso much nicer. Ive got to get one to show side by side with the moissanite on video.
@gregsmith1641
@gregsmith1641 3 жыл бұрын
@@DiamondMounter but why? Is it your opinion? Or is there a genuine reason why diamonds are so much better?
@sherrigilder6644
@sherrigilder6644 2 жыл бұрын
Would you mind sharing what company you bought your moissanite from. I’m trying to decide what company or retailer to purchase from. I would value your opinion on any you may have researched. Thank you for sharing your opinion on the stone. It helped me to decide to try it.
@JoseTorres-sl2eq
@JoseTorres-sl2eq 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot! I really apreciate your videos becasue are very instructional and inspirational to new artist. Wish you lot of good wishes hoping you can achive your dreams!
@nadred5396
@nadred5396 Жыл бұрын
Can’t tell if you made a mistake at 9:10 but Diamond don’t have a double refraction, they are the one stone with SINGLE refraction.
@esmeraldarivera2562
@esmeraldarivera2562 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve owned a Diamond and I don’t want to admit it but my moissanite shines so much more and it’s so much prettier I promise
@Amym0011
@Amym0011 3 жыл бұрын
Have u done a video on lab grown diamonds? I have recently gotten engaged and chose this from James Allen in order to afford a larger stone. I love mine 😊
@LoveFlatfootin1
@LoveFlatfootin1 9 ай бұрын
I got a moissonite ring from a brand called Imolove. Two jewelers tested it and it tested positive for moissonite. The mystery is that it doesn't seem to be doubly refractive. I have a couple of other moissonites that are obviously doubly refractive. Is there a reasonable explanation for this? Thanks for any advice you might share.
@TonyV.Production
@TonyV.Production 2 жыл бұрын
what other lab/seller of Moissanite you recomend other than GRA
@coldshot5555
@coldshot5555 2 жыл бұрын
I felt like you did at first...I figured I could use CZ as it's even cheaper...That was until I set a CZ next to a Moissanite...then all bets were off...THE SPECTRAL Colors and LUSTER IS UNBEATABLE in properly cut stones...Now I am hooked...esp.. since the new price drop...
@shantishanti6343
@shantishanti6343 2 жыл бұрын
Which is the best cut for most Sparkles ?
@AmoreMiu
@AmoreMiu Жыл бұрын
It’s not fake! 😂 Mohs scale a diamond is a 10 and Moissanite is a 9.25 to 9.5 depending on the stone so, very close and both very durable For fire a diamond is 0.044 and a moissanite is 0.104, for Brilliance a diamond is 2.42 and moissanite is 2.65 to 2.69 And then adding in the ethical side and rarity Moissanite is a definite winner in my personal opinion. But, to each his own
@irinamartinez6901
@irinamartinez6901 Жыл бұрын
I tried to search your moissanite code and was no info. Is it real? I did that because I want to buy one but need to make sure how it seems in GRA page
@TheEmperorprakash
@TheEmperorprakash Жыл бұрын
Which is the best place to buy Moissannite ring in U.S? Good combination of Price and Quality?
@rubered3692
@rubered3692 2 жыл бұрын
Moissanite is a good quality stone and in its own right worthy. Natural moissanite is even more precious than diamonds knowing that it's not earthgrown. 🤣🤣🤣
@MsRockabillyBopper
@MsRockabillyBopper 3 жыл бұрын
Would be good to see a real diamond beside it to see if the difference could be spotted with the naked eye
@mahtoosacks
@mahtoosacks 3 жыл бұрын
You can tell. It reflects differently. Both are nice, just different. I kind of like the way the moissanite looks brighter, but everyone still respects the diamond more.
@lisslevimolly
@lisslevimolly 3 жыл бұрын
Theres plenty of comparison videos here on KZbin that you could check out! It's really easy to tell the difference once you see the rainbows moissanite throw. I own both stones and definitely get more compliments on my moissanite.
@feestor5660
@feestor5660 10 ай бұрын
I have a family piece that my grandad bought in Pretoria SA in 1920. It's an old mine cut 1.9 carats set in a vintage rose gold ring. It was costing a fortune to insure. 5 months ago I found a supplier who got me an old mine cut moissanite with a F rating (just like mine). Had my jeweller recreate the setting and put the original in the safe. Side by side in the same setting I can't see a difference (untrained eye maybe but I have been wearing the original for 30 years). The old mine cut makes it look realistic 😮
@DiamondMounter
@DiamondMounter 10 ай бұрын
Yes i can imagine the old style cuts might suit moissanite more. Brilliant cut makes them sparkle too much
@CAPONE1985
@CAPONE1985 3 жыл бұрын
Hey so how did the jewelry come out?
@DiamondMounter
@DiamondMounter 3 жыл бұрын
I didnt finish anything yet but Im about to buy another moissanite for a specific design I have been working on
@jenmo7834
@jenmo7834 2 жыл бұрын
Do you mind sharing the source of the moissanite stone on this video please?
@FishesAndLoaves997
@FishesAndLoaves997 Жыл бұрын
I Absolutely Love Moissanite gem stones… they are very strong and look even better than diamonds!! Over the years I’ve had diamond rings.. Diamonds are nice but Moissanite is just stunning and very durable can also cut Glass. You can also get them in any color.
@mroygl
@mroygl 3 ай бұрын
What do you think about the edges of the stones? They are sort of milky, aren't they?
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