PROFESSIONAL VOGUER reacts to "NAUGHTY" - IRENE & SEULGI of RED VELVET

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@geetheworld8220 2 ай бұрын

spella actually mentioned that irene and seulgi learned this choreography over the course of 4 months, including learning the basics of tutting. this is really impressive to me since sometimes kpop groups are expected to learn choreographies within a couple of days

@geetheworld8220 2 ай бұрын

also just to add, it seems like SM (the company that produced these idols) are very invested in teaching proper technique when they have dances that pull very hard from a specific style of dance, like how RIIZE got to learn about house style before learning the 'Impossible' choreo. very cool to see!!!

@shineinstars 2 ай бұрын

@@geetheworld8220 sm may suck for a lot of things but their dedication to getting shit right is smth ill always respect 🙏🙏 and their banger music

@louisenobrega6183 2 ай бұрын

Yeah, NCT only leave the studio after they've learned the coreo. But its another style, of course

@GravityJacobs 2 ай бұрын

this is incredible! thanks for sharing. i'm so glad they gave them the time necessary to do something of this caliber

@love_cuteme8314 Ай бұрын

2 months they learned this choreography

@Hyxnjxn 2 ай бұрын

I will never get over the fact that the choreography for every single chorus is different and gets harder as the song progresses. You don’t see that a lot in kpop or in general. The choreographer ate down with this one

@rainrainmeansvivi1693 2 ай бұрын

I Love that you pointed out that this choreography have some voguing element like ''New Way'' and ''Fems'' and the Choreographers [Spella and Shim Jae Won] wanted the Tutting choreo to be more feminine and Spella actually had some voguing training and took some inspirations from Voguing to her style

@WitchlightNW 2 ай бұрын

yeah i've defo seen spella participating in arms control battles

@vwnb 2 ай бұрын

To be extra clear he didn't say there is vogue femme hands, just that hands performance is the femme equivalent of old way / new way arms control element. I guess to put it simply the hands are tutting, the arms are new way voguing.

@jojoluv1e 2 ай бұрын

my faves colliding in one videoo!! its also the fact that they learned this choreo within 4 months--having zero to fresh knowledge of this style. glad you loved aseul! 😙💅

@TRANTRUNGHIEU1901 2 ай бұрын

I rarely leave comments, but this video is so quiet, gentle, and nice that it makes me want to watch more. I don't care if this person is a voguer or not; what he said can draw people here and make them trust. He doesn't overreact. Rather, he appears to want to look at how cool the dance is, observe it, and enjoy the rest of the performance professionally. Really like your attitude and your video.

@blairwrelos1891 2 ай бұрын

Just a little Note: The girls don't have an actual voguing or tutting background. But they did prepare and practice for this release for 6 months with Spella. The company knew that this kind of style needs time to pull off properly ig thus the 6 months preparation. Also there's a video on Steezy where they have Spella come over to explain the whole idea and process of making this choreo. That might be a fun video for you to watch❤

@crystalvulpix20 2 ай бұрын

Would love to see you react to Sung Hanbin! He’s in zerobaseone, but he has lots of clips pre debut of him waacking, tutting, and vogueing! he’s also done covers/challenges of naughty (with his member hao), crazy, and his original song (AOTM Bad boy). He’s also a member of Stella’s tutting crew ❤

@dreehollett 2 ай бұрын

Yes Han in is amazing!

@thezircadia 2 ай бұрын

Also a student of spella!

@kohammy 2 ай бұрын

YESSS i was looking for this comment

@MargieLeigh3 2 ай бұрын

YESS i was gonna suggest this!

@mewowow 2 ай бұрын

THIS IS WHAT I WAS LOOKING FORRR

@madsssds 2 ай бұрын

you should check out chung ha's "i'm ready" if you havent already!

@kunikuzushis 2 ай бұрын

yes but the dance practice!! it’s so cxnt

@dreehollett 2 ай бұрын

Yes! honestly she has a lot of songs that I think would be worth reviewing on this channel!

@Jack-gp3xm 2 ай бұрын

We're definitely ready for that lolll

@some1_body 2 ай бұрын

i really recommend you check out Solar. her song 'Colors' is the first time k-pop had a full voguing choreography & it was choreographed by mother Love Ran from House of Love, South Korea's largest kiki house. Solar is not the best dancer in the kpop industry & nobody is claiming that, however she's been platforming queer people & artists since a very long time, & commited to learning the dance as best as she could & also bringing out the kids of House of Love in her performance video for Colors as well as live performances on SK's national TV. Solar is also the leader of the kpop girl group Mamamoo, who make their own music, are known as the safest group for queer people to stan (they even publically call out transphobia coming from their own "fans") & they're the only fandom that has an queer fanclub organization, dedicated to support & this club as been sponsoring Seoul pride for nearly 7 years i believe.

@some1_body 2 ай бұрын

Love Ran also choreographed "I'm ready" for Chung Ha, which is definitely has a more "epic" vibe than Colors & is definitely worth checking out. that choreo is more intense than Colors, but Colors (according to Love Ran herself) is the first time a kpop choreo was 100% voguing. Solar is also an honorary member of House of Love. and Chung Ha guested at various events if I recall correctly. Solar and Chung Ha did a show a while ago talking about all their love for voguing and more

@14danity 2 ай бұрын

@@some1_body yep Chungha judged face for a ball early last year!

@halfwen4575 2 ай бұрын

Mamamoo = goddesses

@eyebrowstj 2 ай бұрын

Seulgi and Irene certainly slayed this choreography! I never get tired of watching them dance to Naughty 💖💛💖💛

@703elee 2 ай бұрын

in regards to the union of camera and choreo working together, SM Entertainment (the parent company of Red Velvet) is at the forefront of this. Around 2 years ago, they had this entire series called camerawork guide which were dance choreo videos with all these crazy camera movements to blend with the choreo accomplished through a combo of actual cameramen doing crazy stuff (literally being suspended on wires while holding the camera for example) to having programmed arms with preset movements to capture EXACT angles and movements and speed). It's no surprise you pointed that out immediately

@RandomJtv 2 ай бұрын

This is the K-pop video I was waiting on you to react to. This routine to me is a top tier. My mind frazzles every time I watch it.

@needyverse 2 ай бұрын

Would be really cool to see your thoughts on Chungha's I'm Ready Performance video (includes Love Ran's choreo) and Chungha's Dream of You, and Solar's Colors MV (with choreo by Love Ran and featuring House of Love). ZEROBASEONE'S Hanbin was a professional dancer specialising in waacking and tutting before debuting in the group - he recently featured in an Artist of the Month performance video on the Studio Choom KZbin channel and it features a little bit of his skills? I am already learning so much from your three kpop video reactions and I feel like you would explain what is happening in the above suggestions in a way that really clarifies the elements for someone new to these details (ie me)!

@RayaIrshaid 2 ай бұрын

Pls if u are gonna react to colour React to house of love personally not solar’s

@thestarswillbethere 2 ай бұрын

love the thoughts from a professional perspective!!! i always think it’s so interesting to hear ideas and opinions from people who are more knowledgeable in the style when kpop idols do more specialized dances like this. if you haven’t yet, i would recommend looking at sung hanbin’s (zerobaseone) artist of the month! he used to do tutting and other styles professionally so i think that would be a fun watch

@luvrinas 2 ай бұрын

please react to sung hanbin!! he was also a professional voguer before debuting and also specialized in waacking and tutting as well check his artist of the month out it's amazingggg

@onionbot 2 ай бұрын

it's my two worlds colliding!! omg gravity i was obsessed with u on legendary and this red velvet & chungha the crossover is everythinggg🤌🤌

@Swynce 2 ай бұрын

Great video! This is one of my favorite choreos as well. As far as I know, Spella defines her style by tutting + waacking to cast a spell, but I've seen her in an arms control battle (in the Inspiration Ball) and there's also a clip of her dancing to an old way choreo in her channel. I'm someone who started dancing k-pop, grew closer to coordination-based choreographies and recently found the ballroom scene of where I live! I'm baby level, but I dance old way and new way. I like a lot seeing this newer trend of vogue in music videos and it's so nice to share this moment with you, I've been learning a lot with your reaction videos! Thank you so much for these! I would suggest something but I think there are already enough comments doing this, haha, so just good job!

@abbeym8431 2 ай бұрын

I didn't intend on commenting again because I didn't want to be a pest about my request but you mentioning that you know of Spella got me so excited!! Sung Hanbin is a student of Spella!! He learned from both Titch Ninja and Spella, and was the only male dancer in Spella's personal dance team 💕 Spella helped him choreograph the hand/arm work for his Studio Choom "Artist of the Month" performance, it's truly jaw-droppingly good. I would really love to see your take on it, even if you're giving critique! I also really loved the details you gave in this- explaining the Old Way pyramid was sooo cool, I'd seen that technique used before but didn't realize there was a name for it. Thank you for sharing all this great info with these reactions!

@toronjaa3662 2 ай бұрын

Can you please check out sung hanbins videos? There's a lot of pre debut videos of him tutting and he has an artist of the month performance where he did some tutting choreographed partly by Spella! There is also tutting in the choreo of "my cat" by lee youngji

@biemstra Ай бұрын

your ''huge tangent'' about how the shape of the stage influences the dance was so interesting to me, and it's so true! i think i read somewhere (not sure if true) that ballet was originally created to be performed in a ballroom without a raised stage, and that that is why a lot of the movements are focused in the upwards direction. maybe the pointe shoes were created for the same reason 🤔

@kiseichu7240 2 ай бұрын

Been loving your recent kpop reactions! Much love to you!

@natalkab1303 2 ай бұрын

someone tell him he needs to react to hanbin from zerobaseone's videos

@slowtokkii 2 ай бұрын

I dont dance but what I know for sure is that this is one of the best choreos in Kpop and most difficult choreos out there. It deserves BEST DANCE CHOREO OF THAT YEAR and even til this day.

@jkgclf 2 ай бұрын

omg as you mentioned tutting, you should check our tutting king from zb1 sung hanbin!! I think that you will enjoy his artist of the month performance with the song “bad boy”

@MultiKev123 2 ай бұрын

Yasss the kpop reactions!!!!! If you have time please do im ready by chungha colors by solar and glitch by eunbi!

@tamia4907 2 ай бұрын

I really appreciated the tangent about how certain techniques are chosen by factors like filming, battling or stage size! Really appreciated this reaction, i like how much i learned

@ericsalazar8204 2 ай бұрын

Your reactions are much appreciated. I love hearing you talk about Vogue and its history and styles.

@MeepsNcheese 2 ай бұрын

Oooh it would be fun to get a video about your dance journey! The college kpop club is new lore

@Julianpowpow 2 ай бұрын

You’ve got to react to la di da by everglow and kili kili by grayish both include elements of vogue in the dance e

@sarahb4513 2 ай бұрын

Oh my god, the youtube algorithm got it so right by showing me this. Amazing! I love this content, this is exactly the kind of analysis i have always wondered about! Kpop takes moves from vogue styles constantly, but this Irene & Seulgi video in particular, I always thought was high art for a lot of the reasons you mentioned. Including the camera work! I like the way you point out that the medium informs the evolution of a style. As someone who watches all types of vogue, other harlem b, bboy etc competitions and also a lot of kpop, it’s so refreshing to see the expert analysis. Tysm!!

@brentalwynfaustino6935 2 ай бұрын

were the subtitles a new addition? if so, i really appreciate so much! also, yes, do NOT apologize when you pause anymore LOL i WANT to hear you talk about the details! if i could request a reaction video, if you haven't, PLEASE react to Sung Hanbin's Artist of the Month Dance Performance~

@GravityJacobs 2 ай бұрын

@@brentalwynfaustino6935 I did them for the first one and forgot to for the second - but they’ll be there going forward!

@Rara_ow 2 ай бұрын

Your « tangent » was incredibly interesting and insightful. As a musician and philosopher (?) among other things, the subject of interplay between the form/format and the content/technique is deeply interesting to me and I loved hearing you talk about it with voguing and tutting. This can also be extended to - as you've also pointed out - the utilization of camerawork in those videos which does see more play in kpop and influences choreographies. Nowadays, more commercial dances will even have to keep in mind how popular a chorus could be for a tiktok dance challenge, for example. This isn't necessarily a bad thing for we are also seeing more and more people get into dancing due to it, much like I am glad voguing is seeing a little more representation in kpop.

@roseflamingo8102 2 ай бұрын

Absolutely love your reaction content; it is incredibly informative and I appreciate your insights into the world of vogue!

@twallace541 2 ай бұрын

Thank you for explaining. It's so much better when an expert explains what is going on.

@vidadeisabella 2 ай бұрын

loved this video & completely agree that this is one of the most impressive choreos in kpop!

@dojoven 2 ай бұрын

pushing for a sung hanbin aotm reaction

@avendoir 2 ай бұрын

so excited to see you react to this!!!!!!!!!!!! i’m locked in now honestly i’m so ready to learn more about vogue!!!

@talianiwa 2 ай бұрын

my two worlds colliding!!! love this video, red velvet have been my girls for YEARS

@tofu6573 2 ай бұрын

Thank you for the insight! I'd like to recommend that you check out ZEROBASEONE's Sung Hanbin and Zhang Hao's cover of Irene and Seulgi's "Naughty", as well as ZEROBASEONE's Studio Choom performance of KILL THE ROMEO--Everyone in Zerobaseone is a solid dancer with a unique style, and Sung Hanbin is trained in both tutting and waacking!

@ls9548 2 ай бұрын

I still remember commenting on your ig like 4 years ago asking you to cover this lol. So glad we finally got you to discuss it! Thank you

@Blitz_Beast 2 ай бұрын

Luvie here, I know someone else already mentioned they had months to really get this down, not having a lot of previous engagement with that style, but means a TON hearing more validation from someone who's in the dance scene and knows how difficult this is! Love seeing more people recognize Red Velvet for their hard work! Also love your break downs and teaching what parts come from what inspiration, I'm super new to dancing and love learning things like that

@leilaannabella414 2 ай бұрын

YES no more apologizing! pause as many times as you WANT we want to hear all your thoughts!!!:)

@mooncakes0073 2 ай бұрын

I see professional voguer Grabity Jacobs reacts to Kpop video. I click. Come to Brazil legend.

@juliajihae 2 ай бұрын

I love your breakdowns of these choreographies and getting to know more about these different dance styles! Thank you

@pilgrimwanders 2 ай бұрын

Man, I cannot getenought of your reaction/explination videos!! I watch a lot of dancers reacting to kpop dances, however your vouge background and insight is so cool to me and your calm and precise deliver is so engaging!! Thank you so much and please keep going!!

@Mewsies. 2 ай бұрын

Really enjoy your expertise and view points on this choreography! I've always loved this song and clicked immediately when I saw your react to it as I've seen a lot of your previous work :) ♥

@iluvart1482 Ай бұрын

Love hearing your thoughts and learning new things about dance and dance history from you

@m..na. 2 ай бұрын

Thank you for checking this out! Love to hear you go into technique especially cause I’m not a dancer

@rocketfallen 2 ай бұрын

So thrilled with your reactions lately Gravity, I love your analysis and how you articulate your thoughts, it's so interesting to listen to, and as someone with no dance background but a lot of interest in watching it I still find your thoughts easy to understand and follow. Personally I'd really like if you could keep even the freeze frame on screen when you pause, just because it's a lot easier for me to visualize what you're talking about that way. I have no object permanence, like a child (I just have really bad visual memory and complete aphantasia). I'd also love a link to the original vid the description! Please do more Chungha, I'd really love to learn about how her waacking background informs her work! If you'd like to look at broader dance stuff too, I think Taemin would be a fun artist to check out.

@vinitheworld_ 2 ай бұрын

You should definitely check "I'm Ready" by Chungha! Lots of whacking and tutting and a bit of voguing

@jnvrflrs 2 ай бұрын

Red Velvet is Legend

@shannonheflin563 2 ай бұрын

I actually got into both voguing and tutting because of learning this choreography, and because I got into that, I found you on social media and now youtube. I love hearing you talk about it because as someone who has dance background, but not much knowledge in this realm, I feel like I get to learn and understand so much more!! I am constantly looking for more choreos like this to learn because it is my favorite dance I have ever taught myself, if anyone sees this send me your recs/ I hope you do some more reactions to some choreos that maybe I am unfamiliar with!

@MrKinist 2 ай бұрын

Finally a vogues reacting vogue moves in kpop, i hard reccomend ready by chung-ha have a lot of weecking

@BaekguPark 2 ай бұрын

great reaction, really appreciate the commentary and analysis were learning. anyway idk if you've seen some of street woman fighter it's a variety show for choreographers and dance crews and i think i've seen some dance battles that includes vouge mostly whacking i really enjoyed it, i thought you might like it too.

@HMarie.99 2 ай бұрын

Agh, I love watching dancers who specialize in specific styles analyzing k-pop dancing (as a ballet dancer myself, I’m always amused when idols use ballet in their choreos or concepts, it’s great fun to see the creativity and execution, wether it’s good or bad). If you take recommendations, I would love to see a video on Shinhwa‘s “This Love”. They’re an OG k-pop artist and the first k-pop group to ever do a choreo with vogue elements back in 2013 (and as far as I know still the only boygroup to do it, icons!). It’s a very different style from what you’ve reacted to so far, so it’d be interesting to hear your thoughts. Please consider it^^

@AkwaDoll 2 ай бұрын

YEAHHHHHGGHHHHGH reminds me of you and that 4th gen idol always collabing on shorts/tiktok challenges

@maxhere6153 2 ай бұрын

NOW PLEASE REACT COLORS FROM SOLAR!!!!

@_fan-it4ox 2 ай бұрын

I recomend you Colors by Solar too, it also have vogue concept

@anluong9129 2 ай бұрын

I have seen some videos of Spella walking in arms control at balls so I would consider her to be participating in the ballroom community. Also, I think you should react to This Love by Shinhwa. They were one of the first kpop groups to have vogue in their choreography. The choreography is more old way inspired which I haven’t seen any other group do!

@emsenshi 2 ай бұрын

Loved your tangent about stage context ~7:00!

@tenshhi 2 ай бұрын

Colors by Solar from Mamamoo is another must watch!!

@kidcaptainwembri 2 ай бұрын

Thank you for the subtitles! Very fun video, thank you for sharing your expertise ^^

@SunsetBlvd13 2 ай бұрын

Oooo one thing I would like for you to see is the first opening to Link Click, they animated the characters tutting throughout the song. And for further context, Link Click is a chinese animation show or Donghua!

@keumkwak 2 ай бұрын

Love your videos!!! If you’re looking for more underrated kpop choreos that are inspired by vogue, I would to suggest “Who Am I” by Weki Meki (the performance from their comeback live), GWSN “Puzzle Moon (the mv), fromis_9 “SBS Special 2022 choreography” and also “Moon Palace” by billlie which has its own choreography video. ❤

@anajulia-mq9io Ай бұрын

it's so funny bc in this example in particular i would say it's better to watch the final result (music video) bc it's heavily choreography focused

@juegawomandownunder 2 ай бұрын

adoro Ahora Colors de Solar

@petall673 2 ай бұрын

Ladida by everglow has some vogue parts and was choreographed by a member of the community in SK (Tina Boo and Hae Jun both choreographed Haejun does more vogue and Tina Boo does more Tutting based on what I know. ) and I think it would be worthwhile to check out. Thank you for the videos you have made so far I have really enjoyed them!

@alunoausente6075 2 ай бұрын

Chung ha im ready dance practice é muito bom.

@AkwaDoll 2 ай бұрын

i'd love seeing you react to Spella more!

@starrynightmp3 2 ай бұрын

need to see you react to sung hanbin

@leticialima3692 2 ай бұрын

you really should react to chung ha's ''im ready'' dance practice, its amaaaazing

@lottiekyu 2 ай бұрын

I love this! I lear a lot!! You really really should check shinhwa this love!!! Is so vogue!!!

@bamsam008 2 ай бұрын

You should really react to Sung Hanbin artist of the month. Hes a professional tutter and he really shines in that video

@justslena 2 ай бұрын

You should check out Everglow's La Di Da. It's not fully vogue in style but there are parts and elements they have that i think are super well integrated. The Mv Choreography video is what I'd recommend.

@jvlixn 2 ай бұрын

QUEENS

@NathyIsabella 2 ай бұрын

I mean... It was 2020... They coudn't do much, and RV was kinda on a hiatus because of Wendy... So they were learning tutting from Spella... I mean, it's nice that two amazing k idol dancers could get together on a sub-unit and take time to learn a new style and technique and do this amazing job!!!! Also, pleeeeeeeeeaseee, Colors by Solar!!

@jin5325 2 ай бұрын

You should check out Solar's Color MV! She included voguing in her video as well!!

@pearinsomnia9188 Ай бұрын

For dance reactions, you’re going to get never ending comments about reacting to the dance practice videos! If you have the capacity, maybe react to both the MV and the dance practice video, because your point about how the dance is framed in the final version is excellent but it’s also not a comprehensive look at the choreography, which is an equal component and is what actually gets performed live.

@jiayiisconfused3103 2 ай бұрын

i think spella is definitely more of a tutting dancer than a voguer, but she definitely has some inspiration from ballroom/new way and has definitely gotten influence from the arms control side of vogue. she has students who ended up in the kr ballroom community (notably titch love ninja), so though she's not a voguer per se she definitely has ties to ballroom!

@whattypeofx7750 2 ай бұрын

This is an earnest request, please react to Sung Han Bin, like just in general, please please please

@RichardNeill-c5g 2 ай бұрын

Don't apologize for your "tangents" as they make your critiques a Master's Class :O)

@jyotitewari739 2 ай бұрын

you should react to Solar "COLORS" which is the first full voguing choreography song in kpop. A song that started the house edm trend in kpop and getting queer house on centre stage.

@jerbear3930 2 ай бұрын

PLEASE DO COLORS BY SOLAR!!!! The choreographer is from an actual vogue house, Love Ran, actually the whole house was there including her (she’ll be the one with blue short hair)❤

@vwnb 2 ай бұрын

This video is a godsend, been kinda bothered by netizens with superficial understanding between dancing styles simply saying it's "not voguing but tutting". Like yeah, but no, it's a bit more complicated and exactly as complicated as you put it. Thanks Gravity!!

@vwnb 2 ай бұрын

Anyway, as requested - my recommendation for a reaction video would be one on Who Am I? by Weki Meki. It's a bit like the Stay Tonight situazion, same choreographer too.

@aldengroves5193 2 ай бұрын

If you're looking for another K-pop choreo to react to, Untie by VIVIZ has a lot of really cool vogue-inspired stuff that I would love to see you react to!