Shirley Meng - a hero working to save the planet with energy storage! More power to you Shirley!
@roryreddog32584 жыл бұрын
Wow you got Shirley Meng. I’ve heard her name so often and never heard seen or heard her this is a treat for me. Thank you
@sunnychu18404 жыл бұрын
Shirley Meng has several great KZbin videos about batteries, well worth watching!
@roryreddog32584 жыл бұрын
Sunny Chu Thank you I had no idea cheers
@roryreddog32584 жыл бұрын
39:25 Shirley Meng: My goal in life: EV exceeding range of ICE vehicles, with 400Wh/kg. Ding ding ding! Thank you Shirley 🙏 You’ve got this ✊
@toby-xo6rb4 жыл бұрын
Two weeks before Battery Day ... and you score an extremely rare interview with Shirley Meng! You sir, truly, are a friggin' Rock Star!!!
@thelimitingfactor4 жыл бұрын
hehehe
@rogerstarkey53904 жыл бұрын
I was thinking more like James Taylor than Robert Plant....? 😁
@toby-xo6rb4 жыл бұрын
@@rogerstarkey5390 LOL ... hey, who said "up on the roof" doesn't make you a rock star?
@paulrautenbach4 жыл бұрын
Shirley made everything she said crystal clear. She is a very good speaker. Thank you for interviewing her. Lots to be exited about.
@DaveDugdaleColorado4 жыл бұрын
What a wonderful interview. I enjoy the passion she has for the future.
@charlech4 жыл бұрын
We must not let her defect to the CCP
@rakau1234 жыл бұрын
@@charlech Duh She would only be going home
@steveperreira58503 жыл бұрын
Superb guest professor. Almost all female engineers in America are foreign born. America culture just kills the science bug in our native born females, ..... just shameful.
@steveperreira58503 жыл бұрын
raniera stevens: That’s what I thought as soon as I saw that “defection” comment. As with almost all female engineers in America, she is foreign born. In America, our native born women DO NOT PERFORM in science. How shameful!
@alessandroasa18613 жыл бұрын
Instablaster
@WaltersGuides4 жыл бұрын
She speaks with such passion, I'm impressed, her eye light up like Elon's
@andrewbuck50164 жыл бұрын
It's amazing how quickly you have gone from a tiny upstart channel to the go to place for everything batteries! Great job!
@raulgil84594 жыл бұрын
Shirley Meng is a treasure and an inspiration...!!!
@KENDOMAINE4 жыл бұрын
Oooh shiiiii you got Shirley! Well this is now the best channel on KZbin right now.
@LarsPallesen4 жыл бұрын
That was a great interview with a real battery expert. Very exciting.
@McClarinJ4 жыл бұрын
I like her mix of professionalism, enthusiasm, and friendly demeanor.
@rogerstarkey53904 жыл бұрын
SCOOP!! (Demonstrates your growing reputation!)
@thelimitingfactor4 жыл бұрын
hehehehe 😁
@JakeBrowatzke4 жыл бұрын
Loved this so much! Thanks for this interview both of you. It opened my eyes a lot!
@MagnumiPad4 жыл бұрын
Top interview, how do you get these guys, they are the knowledge holders. Well done.
@rogerstarkey53904 жыл бұрын
Simple. Understated respect. LOTS of research. An exceptional (Imo) ability to understand and describe the concepts in "words of one syllable" (or as near as possible). Jordan, you may 🤭, but it's what I see.
@DaveGee20104 жыл бұрын
Shirly..... I don't know if you will read this but thank you for making the brilliant choices you've made... The efforts of you and your colleagues are very ,much appreciated!!
@carlstockmal4 жыл бұрын
That's such a great combination of super-smart lady and positive thinking about her role in the grand scheme. I hope Shirley gets great students and together they can accomplish their goals. Thank you for conducting the interview, and for the thought-provoking content Jordan.
@pauljoyce324 жыл бұрын
This is a great channel. The only channel I subscribe to, and the one I understand the least. I especially enjoyed the end. Very inspiring. And as well as being very knowledgeable, Dr. Meng is very cool. A great interview. Thanks!
@thelimitingfactor4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Paul, I appreciate the support. Yeah, she was cool 😀. Very easy to talk to and full of ideas.
@rogerstarkey53904 жыл бұрын
More to the point, a"tiny upstart" who "knew nothing about batteries" to way beyond the average comprehension (and I suspect beyond many high level students)
@danchatka86134 жыл бұрын
So amazing that a world class scientist, like Shirley Meng, is also such a pleasant person. Your viewers and her students are very lucky!
@puffpio4 жыл бұрын
The best takeaway: ‘if you are an optimistic person: we have 30 years of time. If you are a pessimistic person: we have 20 years of time’ There’s a huge portion of us watching this video that will be alive during the point-of-no-return tipping point. Amazing and frightening at the same time
@409raul4 жыл бұрын
I love this channel so much! I probably understand like 10% of what is being said but its so cool!
@thelimitingfactor4 жыл бұрын
It's okay, that's probably about how much I understand when I'm talking to researchers, lol.
@entspannter_hase4 жыл бұрын
It was surprising to me that most of the benefits of silicon already come with adding 10-20% to the anode, while transitioning to 100% silicon seems way too challenging in relation to the then smaller reward. Thanks for getting this kind of information out there Jordan!
@musaran24 жыл бұрын
I suspect this is due to to big cathode footprint, and would become more important with a metal cathode.
@priyangakaru4 жыл бұрын
Great interview Jordan! I have come across Shirley on some webinars so ....what a scoop! Congrats! You keep taking ur interviews and content to the next level each time! And we're the better for it!
@thelimitingfactor4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! 🔥🤜🤛
@manuelmartinez-gq4ij4 жыл бұрын
What a pleasure listening to Professor Meng and her Optimistic hope for the future. I’m in her corner!
@prof.m.ottozeeejcdecs99984 жыл бұрын
One of the best interviews! Shirley is such a smart, positive, and likable woman! 20 years time to save our planet, not more!
@12345maxx4 жыл бұрын
Great Jordan. Thank you Shirley.
@rogerstarkey53904 жыл бұрын
First thoughts. (Started taking notes at 20:00) 1) WOW! 2) 21:20.... $65!! (Even beat *my* "optimistic" prediction!) 3) 25:40.... Lithium Sulphur 2021 (lab? Production testing?) 4) 37:00 ... Batt/ Cap hybrid (larger vehicles)..... Skeleton interview??? 5) 38:09 .... Confirmed targets 400/500 Wh/kg 6) 39:15.... High Lithium cathode = 400Wh/kg 7) 41:00 .... *Get a message to Elon! Shirley on battery day* !! 8) 42:15... *Nice Compliment* ! Don't let it go to your head!! 😁 ...... Don't know about Tesla, but *Your* stock just went up! 😁🤭 You do know this is going to be plagiarized all over YT!?
@thelimitingfactor4 жыл бұрын
HAHAHA! My head shall get no bigger than it already is, lol. She was throwing so much into the conversation that I didn't get to clarify the bounds of that $65 dollar figure. It might be the cell level for Roadrunner? Sulfur is a ways out. However, if they can show any progress on par with what they are doing with Lithium Metal, it will be huge. Lithium Metal with Sulfur would be beast mode! 🤔 For large vehicles, a hybrid system makes more sense! Hmmm, or would that be the other way around. I'm not sure. It sounds like 400 is in the bag for 2025 Tesla vehicles (3-4 years plus Elon time). If so....holy sheeet. Yeah, I hope all the email she gets won't dissuade her from future interviews, lol.
@rogerstarkey53904 жыл бұрын
@@thelimitingfactor I was hoping for $85 at cell level. It would reinforce my belief that Roadrunner will be the primary cell for automotive applications......? Sulphur, I agree. The combination? 👍 "400"? Still expect 300+ soon. As long as one of the emails she gets is from Elon.....😁
@srikanna45974 жыл бұрын
@@thelimitingfactor $65!!!! Great I was speculating $75 or lower based on Semi prices. Note to self. Get more $TSLA.
@rogerstarkey53904 жыл бұрын
@@srikanna4597 I hope you timed it right! (TSLA)
@srikanna45974 жыл бұрын
@@rogerstarkey5390 Doesn't really matter in the long run, but yeah. $382
@rebellionair34 жыл бұрын
Great interview. Enjoyed the conversation too... wasn’t just Q&A. Loved Shirley’s answer to the last question.
@JohnMunroNZ4 жыл бұрын
Love Shirley’s enthusiasm for grid storage. When you think about it at the base level, the sun bombards earth in humongous levels and so much gets radiated away into space that if we could store just a few percent more we would all be richer. Until now most of that storage has been in crops and food, we now have a path to so much more potential.
@gregbailey453 жыл бұрын
Maybe if we can store enough energy on the sunny side and store it then use it on the dark side, we might even be able to influence global warming a tiny bit!
@10kreviews20204 жыл бұрын
I can't even express how delighted I am to see Jordan getting guests like this. The caliber of research he's done warrants it, but that's not always enough to get experts like this to share their insight with this series of tubes, or truck if you will, of the interwebs.
@thelimitingfactor4 жыл бұрын
😀 I've been biting my tongue for the last 10 days, lol. REALLY wanted to tell everyone.
@nicka47364 жыл бұрын
Incredibly insightful interview and responses by Jordan and Shirley!
@thelimitingfactor4 жыл бұрын
😊
@paulmcgillivray94152 жыл бұрын
Shirley Meng is a full of enthusiasm, and hearing her speak about an optimistic future whilst showing restraint (cautious against over promising), makes me excited for the hope of our planet
@joshalmaty4 жыл бұрын
Love these videos! Thanks for uploading deep dives into hard to compile/understand topics. KZbin is often surface level and sensational. This is very informative.
@thelimitingfactor4 жыл бұрын
It was a real honor interviewing her and it was really nice to see the community enjoy it!
@daviddowell63384 жыл бұрын
A simply terrific interview. Superb questions. Shirley is a top leader in this industry and wonderful to hear from her directly. Thank you both for doing this first class interview.
@sunnychu18404 жыл бұрын
Very exciting content! Can’t wait for the future! Thanks Shirley!! Thanks Jordan!
@AmiGanguli4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic interview. And what an uplifting personality. Her optimism and enthusiasm is infectious.
@DanielZajic4 жыл бұрын
That was wonderful! Made me tear up at the end. I would love to see another interview with her in a year. Make her a regular! Her comment about graphite and battery demand was the most juicy tidbit for me. It's so true. We're just getting started with electrification and will continue to be battery constrained with no end in sight.
@thelimitingfactor4 жыл бұрын
I was really happy to show another side of battery research(ers). More of a human side. It helped so much that she was easy to interview. In due time, will do another interview.
@jjpark47584 жыл бұрын
This is absolutely amazing! I don’t know how your viewer demographic is, but as a mechanical engineering postgrad, this sort of content is exactly what im looking for.
@thelimitingfactor4 жыл бұрын
Mostly engineers I think, lol
@adrianfortmoviereviewsbook98214 жыл бұрын
As someone with a masters in creative writing, I'm barely hanging on through most of Jordan's videos, haha. But I'm willing to bet there are many other viewers for whom this challenging new information, and not just review. One of Jordan's greatest strengths is making things more understandable.
@thelimitingfactor4 жыл бұрын
@@adrianfortmoviereviewsbook9821 You are not alone 😂. I've tried watching videos from a few months back to relearn things that had slipped. I had to rewind and replay a few times.
@rogerstarkey53904 жыл бұрын
@@thelimitingfactor Regarding "replays" That makes me feel much better! Or, at least, "less inadequate"...😁
@andrewpaulhart4 жыл бұрын
The Limiting Factor does a computer engineer count?
@jamesenglish97363 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great interview, Professor Shirley explains the complex ideas very well and makes them a lot more understandable.
@douglasashby43494 жыл бұрын
Great interview congratulations in being persistant and accurate and getting the interview with Prof Meng
@retrofuturestyle4 жыл бұрын
Blown away... again... just 2 days after Sila's Future of Energy whitepaper, everything the content, Shirley, the timing, blown away
@thelimitingfactor4 жыл бұрын
It's coming thick and fast! I have to update my Battery Day script every day, lol.
@retrofuturestyle4 жыл бұрын
@@thelimitingfactor Love it man, absolutely love it we need more of you in the space
@konradkathan4 жыл бұрын
What an insightful and interesting interview. Thank you so much for your efforts in bringing this more into the mainstream.
@mackxue7794 жыл бұрын
Shirley is such an inspirational yet humble leader in battery research! This is amazing! Thank you for making this happen!
@mxm88863 жыл бұрын
Great video. New subscriber instantly. And Like!!!
@christopherrubicam44742 жыл бұрын
Sixteen months after this interview it is still very useful to review and deepen my understanding of the development of battery technology.
@geordonworley56184 жыл бұрын
I feel like this interview you really have improved your scheduling and question asking. I got so much information out of this interview, and it felt like it went smoothly. You gave Dr. Meng tons of time to really talk, and asked really helpful questions. I understand the scope of battery tech a lot better thanks to this interview. You're awesome! And also, big thanks to Dr. Meng for doing this interview for us!
@thelimitingfactor4 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! Nothing really changed on my end - it all has to do with the chemistry between the interviewer and interviewee and the subject matter and even how each of our days is going. This is what makes interviewing so interesting but also so variable.
@bitebetsy4 жыл бұрын
Meng so impresses me. I feel she must have had a sparse beginning, but got her educational break early on - I'd be curious of her life story. She is a gem of personality & enthusiasm & her birth-graced brilliancy potential must have become visible early on in her education. Amazing & lucky to have teachers like her whose work bears the fruits of her visions!!!
@JaiUneGuruDeja4 жыл бұрын
VERY informative. The intellectual joy you felt speaking with Shirley was obvious. Your best interview to date.
@LoneWolf-wp9dn4 жыл бұрын
Damn its hardly been half a year... look at you goooooo!!
@plangston19574 жыл бұрын
I watch all your video’s. Having Shirley Meng on was outa this world. She had my complete attention and her enthusiasm is contagious. Knowing she’s waiting for Battery day too gives me hope for some great news. Thanks for this
@NicoVeenkamp4 жыл бұрын
Dang!! One of the best interviews ever on battery technology. I love how you react on the passionate expose of professor Meng with a stoic ‘very exiting’. You rock man!
@Tesladocumentaryseries76034 жыл бұрын
Best interview i have seen in quite some time. Look forward to re watching this video a few times over as there was soo much great content to absorb. Shirley is awesome.
@tjayzlen4 жыл бұрын
Man good job, I have seen Shirley Meng's name pop up quite a few times but haven't seen her talk. Very informative interview to say the least, thanks for having her on.
@clintsquires64324 жыл бұрын
This was amazing 🙌 Thank you Jordan & Shirley
@soulmate8054 жыл бұрын
Graphite curiosity brought me here. So glad I found this priceless interview. Sincere thanks to both of you.
@andrewzamorski49504 жыл бұрын
Well done Jordan, obviously a great coup to get an interview with Dr Meng but also on your interview skills which have definitely improved over this series of videos. I appreciate that I know a lot more about what I don’t know now, thank you.
@whateverz-8764 жыл бұрын
You're a naturally good interviewer but there's something else --you KNOW and freaking LOVE the topic. These two factors provided great synergy between you two. There is absolutely NO way a "pro journalist" (turns head and expectorates in total disgust) could ever have made a video these worthy and detailed. This video was simply FANTASTIC.
@thelimitingfactor4 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! 🔥
@eamonstack41394 жыл бұрын
Jordan, what a "scoop"! An incredibly informative interview, with a world class expert, who is a wonderful communicator. An honour - thank you, Eamon
@thelimitingfactor4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the support Eamon!
@trashmail84 жыл бұрын
What a wonderful video/interview! I not only really loved all the insights and perspectives she shared, but also her energy! Dedicating her life to making the world a better place. People like her should be the ones we should support and consider the true celebrities of our societies.
@thelimitingfactor4 жыл бұрын
Amen to that! These are the people at the front of the train. The locamotives.
@ooowoodstockooo4 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for getting us that interview with Shirley
@thelimitingfactor4 жыл бұрын
You're most welcome!
@BOBO-so8rx4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for setting up this interview. Shirley Meng is great; I would love to be a 20 year old who stumbled into her 101 class.
@babbaracos4 жыл бұрын
Super great interview!! Great questions! Loved it really! Thank you very much, the both off you! Feeling the excitement!!!
@AWildBard4 жыл бұрын
wow that was outstanding!
@PhiTonics4 жыл бұрын
Great bubbly inflection she has, nice how excited she is when communicating.
@titaniumjoeszigeti4 жыл бұрын
What a fantastic video. Thank you both. The exciting part for me was having validation that Nano Silicon is the answer because HPQ SILICON has developed a cost efficient way to produce spherical nano silicon and they said they can tailor the size to suit the client. This is exciting because from what I understand cost has always been the limiting factor for not using nano silicon. It will be exciting to see what Tesla can do with it!
@ricknplano14013 жыл бұрын
Professor Meng is such a lovely person. And so intelligent as well. A delightful interview. Thank you.
@TheSamvirtual4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! you both are so passionate into battery tech, and Shirley add so much clear information both hollistic and in-depth key points.
@tomcockcroft93944 жыл бұрын
Best interview on KZbin. So insightful and exciting. Thanks both
@w0ttheh3ll4 жыл бұрын
Apart from being a leading researcher, she's such a nice person! I'm impressed.
@thdjjfsfh4 жыл бұрын
Great to see a Professor talking about stuff that is likely to be commercialized, not just lab samples.
@realfuturist92634 жыл бұрын
Another great video/interview Jordan (and Shirley)! Thanks for doing this and all your videos.
@thelimitingfactor4 жыл бұрын
Sure thing David! I always appreciate your support.
@benperschau11154 жыл бұрын
Really good stuff here. I learned a lot and am excited about silicon anodes!
@minhduong27344 жыл бұрын
Dude! Great job getting an interview with Professor Meng. Please Please ask her back for another interview. I think your channel's deep dive into state-of the-art battery technology helped clarify that there is so much more room for EVs to gain a significant competitive advantage over ICE vehicles. I hope you can get her back to discuss battery research optimized for grid base storage. Keep up the wonderful work! Wow - $65/kW-hr means a 200 mile range compact car with a 50 kW-hr pack can cost less than a Toyota Corolla!
@thelimitingfactor4 жыл бұрын
Sure thing! I think she's up for another interview. Just to clarify, I think she meant $65/kwh at the cell level, which is $100/kwh at the pack level. I'm guessing below $70kwh at the pack level will be Tesla's next target though. 😀
@Jt-hl4yv4 жыл бұрын
GREAT interview. This helped answer a lot of questions I had as well as the future for Graphite as there seems to be some views that it's not something that will be around very long. MYTH....great to see it's in the future. Keep up the great work, very much appreciated!
@lightspeed40214 жыл бұрын
Hi Shirley loved your participation and comments. May I ask, and while future is soo hard to predict, in a potential Gen3 LioN battery, how much lithium would required? And in what form?
@BeCaffe4 жыл бұрын
She kind of responded to that while answering the question about Gen3 Li-metal. That will ultimately come down to the materials developed, namely the Ultra-Thin Li-metal film. So as little as possible to capitalize on the cathode. Research on supercapacitors and/or superconductors has to come into fruition (hybrid?). AI and Big Data infrastructure from silicon valley companies (like Google) can shorten research time by hundreds of times.
@JohnnyC100719594 жыл бұрын
Big score getting such a qualified guest.
@maxwellschaphorst85743 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, thanks again Jordan.
@lesliefranklin18704 жыл бұрын
Great interview. It's always interesting listening to an expert in the field. Thanks!
@kenplant914 жыл бұрын
That was great. It felt like a mini battery class. It really gave me some valuable insight into the state of battery tech. Thank you both.
@Batman2StaticShock4 жыл бұрын
So much rich information here. Thank Ya'll!!!
@tbyte0074 жыл бұрын
Wow she's awesome ! I can listen to her for hours explaining batteries :)
@manzourahmed33834 жыл бұрын
Another great interview. Makes me want to get back into engineering again.
@JohnMunroNZ4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic you got Shirley, so jealous. Somehow I missed this and just found it now. An amazing woman! I have met and studied with a few exceptional women in engineering and I feel it’s always a pity more high school ladies don’t feel it’s something great to get into.
@jeremydable24684 жыл бұрын
Jordan , one of your best.A very good interview. Thanks.
@arthurzlol2 жыл бұрын
I learned about her through your video before I realized she's a professor in my department lol. A year later, I just finished taking her thermodynamics class
@SanePerson14 жыл бұрын
Finally, the hype of “ten times increase in energy density” deflated with simple basic chemistry at the very beginning. Thank you.
@thelimitingfactor4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it gets frustrating doesn't it!
@earnmyturns63054 жыл бұрын
I did not understand the explanation. Of course what carries the charge is still the lithium. But if the accepting matrix were 10x more effective in silicon, then that portion of the battery can be made that much smaller... no?
@thelimitingfactor4 жыл бұрын
@@earnmyturns6305 Think of it this way. There are 6 parts to the internals of a battery (cathode, anode, electrolyte, Al foil, copper foil, shell). In order to get 10x energy density, all of those parts would each have to be 10x more energy dense. Making only one of them 10x only doubles or triples energy density. But, in reality, it doesn't actually double or triple because there are even more factors. I've done other videos that explain why Si loses energy density...like the moonshot video.
@kelvynbettridge4 жыл бұрын
Thank you both for your time and insight
@SwatiSahu12044 жыл бұрын
Prof. Shirley Meng is truly inspiring. Thank you for this interview 🙂
@abend36044 жыл бұрын
Great interview and chock full of new insights that I had not even considered previously. Truly mind blowing and inspring!. Her comments about driving down hill and linking the loss of regenerative power because the batteries could not store all the spike of power quickly enough struck a responsive chord in me. I had stumbled across another video recently that suggested as well that regenerative braking feeding ultra capacitors which in turn could then feed into the battery system seems like a possible idea. Not sure about cost/benefits though. One other thing she mentioned, which is of interest to me as a Tesla stockholder, is that Elon may already be at or belong $65/kwh. Wow!
@Josh-cp4el4 жыл бұрын
You killed it as usual Jordan! Shirley has fantastic insights as a leader in the field. Great stuff you two!
@thelimitingfactor4 жыл бұрын
🤜🤛🔥
@deeplato56473 жыл бұрын
*Dr. Meng* Incredible. An Intellectual Wonder Woman Incarnate. Thank you!
@roh45232 жыл бұрын
Amazing talk, I hope that her ideas would soon turned into a real commercial high energy density anode. Because it’s working and I’ve designed a composite anode which was believed to be impossible but finally worked. Every task can be achieved if someone is persistent and patient.
@thanes694 жыл бұрын
I LOOOOOVE IT! Moore’s Law for batteries is annual storage capacity produced!
@jasonwidegren4 жыл бұрын
Shirley Meng is my new hero. So great!
@user-wy4mp9ts3u3 жыл бұрын
I think one of the obstacles to a pure lithium anode is the constant re-plating which inevitably leads to dendrites,this problem must be solved and is a fundamental limitation to the system because plating will always selectively plate on the sharpest point and there by increase the length of the point hence the dendrite problem but there is a solution and that is to go with it rather than stop it and the way to do that is to have millions of sharp points on the anode so the inevitable dendrites will be so small they will hardly exist.
@kevinstephens53154 жыл бұрын
Outstanding interview, Shirley Meng was awesome! Well done!
@pandiyanp58164 жыл бұрын
This lady deserves a Nobel prize!
@batandball6174 жыл бұрын
OMG WOW! Literally one of THE researchers on the planet at the cutting edge of battery research! Fantastic!