The Brian Thomas Jr. Conversation | PFF

PFF's Steve Palazzolo and Sam Monson discuss their thoughts on 2024 NFL Draft prospect Brian Thomas Jr.
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[@cbriggo2157]

Checking in now to see how well their take ages.

[@dyinpeace]

MVS stayed in college for 5 years, never had 1k season, never had more 7 TDS in a season but BTJ is MVS??? HOW 😂

[@DUVALTV]

✅

[@yitwailu2]

MVS had 30.5 vertical while BTJ vertical is 38.5. I think that makes a bit of difference.

[@zachwillandcarl5157]

He’s only thinking it cause he wore #11 🤣

[@squareup7776]

WR16 is genuinely hilarious bad

[@themack1363]

This goof never played football. 75%-90% of the shit he says is hilarious in a weird awkward way. PFF is losing a lot of credibility.

[@thesedaze2381]

I remember when every other word out of steve's mouth was Josh Allen is going to bust. Every year he got better but he wouldn't let up.

[@OmaAlkebulan-grace]

😂😅facts 😮

[@OmaAlkebulan-grace]

He has the most potential!!! 17 tds,

[@OmaAlkebulan-grace]

Remind me of Martavis Bryan, steelers could coach him up, but they are liking Adonai michell 😢

[@chriswaughrealestate]

Sam: “I just don’t see what other people are seeing. I see size, speed and vertical ability. That’s about it.” 👀

[@squareup7776]

Clearly you guys haven’t watched the tape. Lead the entire country in TDs and you can’t even mention it? Lmao he was behind Nabers too he just needs to build his route tree and he’s elite

[@TrueDaniels]

Facts exactly what I said you just don’t get 17 touchdowns 😂🤦🏾‍♂️💯

[@IncineratedHam]

"Just needs to be a player with a completely different skillset and he'll be elite"

[@kiaadams104]

College stats don't mean shit. Ask Tim Tebow. Watching the tape is what matters. Not numbers. Look at Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady. College tape, not College numbers. Yall new to this?

[@123shoshan]

Just the opposite having nabers on team opens things up for him

[@123shoshan]

@@TrueDanielsdude he has the best qb in country throwing him ball and nabers takes attention away from him

[@closeoutentertainment]

I respect contrarian opinions. The comps seem so forced. 16th? MVS and Demarcus Robinson and Mingo?! Those players did not produce at the same level in college at all. They compared to Gabe Davis in another video. Not nearly as athletic. Drops are definitely a concern though. If they showed better comps or really focused in on the drops, I'd believe it a little more. Just dont see how 8 or 15 WRs are better when all of the ones outside of top 3 have flaws.

[@davidjamal378]

That's 16th prospect on the big board... Not WR 16

[@rjohn0493]

Zay proved regardless of where you wanna rank him he’s at minimum top 3 of his class for their rookie years. He’s got a long way to go but he’s gonna be a wr1 for the ravens

[@donjohnson2758]

They don’t like admitting they’re wrong. Always a “yeah but…”

[@jaredwright8749]

_Minimum_ top 3? Puka Nacua, Rashee Rice, Tank Dell. And then you have to figure out where he ranks between Addison, Downs, and Reed.

[@rjohn0493]

@@jaredwright8749 clears rice. Better route runner better deep threat better yac. Not hating on rice but you switch him with Zay and it’s not even up for discussion on who’s better. One has Mahomes the other has Lamar. Not to knock on Lamar but Mahomes can just make throws he can’t.

[@ysoserious784]

Seems like a Chase and Jefferson type of situation. No one thought Jefferson would be the better player. To say Thomas is Valdez- Scantling is interesting.

[@MeannMugginn]

@@rjohn0493 agreed, Flowers > Rice for me. He's just a complete wide receiver who can make incredible plays down the field.

[@FightrForLife]

Something to consider when evaluating BTJ - he didn't start playing football until his sophomore year of high school. He was a standout basketball player before that. The level he's at now isn't even CLOSE to where he can be with development.

[@rulesyaface]

It's not like most scholastic wr's are learning a diverse route tree. The fact is that he never developed that in 3 years at LSU and that's a major uh oh.

[@smercxz]

@@rulesyafaceneither has Nabers and ppl try to compare him to MHJ which is hilarious btw cuz it’s not close. AT ALL. But anyway that’s just how LSU runs their scheme it’s not that complicated it’s very dumbed down. They get all these 4 and 5 star recruits and say hey you’re better than those other guys out there to win with athleticism. BTJ has the ability to run every route thought despite the shortcomings of LSU’s scheme and what they ask him to do. His breaks at his size in and out of cuts and explosiveness remind me so much of julio jones he’s a hands catcher as well he’s physically after the catch he gets even better RAC yards then some smaller guys. He’ll be alright

[@MeannMugginn]

@@smercxz but how does one know if he CAN run all the routes if he was never asked to do so in college? Look, I think Brian Thomas Jr. will be an excellent NFL player. He could be a Gabe Davis type that plays 90% of the snaps, stretches the defense, and makes big plays. But from what we have seen from him in college, there's not enough to suggest he will be doing more than that. Although I will say, ranking him 16th best in the class is ridiculous, he is way better than that.

[@smercxz]

@@MeannMugginn BTJ is a better prospect than Gabe Davis. Bigger, faster, and more agile in and out of cuts. As far as BTJ’s route tree his combine gives a good idea he has the ability to run a more diverse route tree. Let’s look at someone like George Pickens he’s pretty good but limited route runner because he just doesn’t cut well on breaks. BTJ is EXPLOSIVE in and out of cuts. His combine numbers tell the type of athlete he is.

[@MeannMugginn]

@@smercxz okay, then forget Gabe Davis, let’s say Christian Watson, he was the best athlete of his class and in the NFL he’s a downfield splash play maker and he’s struggled to be more than that (admittedly injuries are a huge part of that) athleticism is not proportional to success at the nfl wide receiver position

[@sJ504nola]

This is the dumbest review of a WR I’ve seen in a while. They must just read stats and don’t watch games.

[@Coreyw2003]

This shit funny as hell

[@VoxMachina8]

I want a review of Jalen Coker.

[@smercxz]

Bro no let him be slept on lmao. Kids a helluva route runner

[@ericpratfall549]

He's marquis scantling then you say he's number 9 and 16 prospect. That's ridiculous ! It doesn't make sense. Marques isn't worth a 7th Rd pick. At least try and make it make sense

[@marianchicago4002]

I know I have seen that from physical stand point and speed, people have said he is the closest thing they have seen to Randy Moss since Randy Moss, now it's obvious he is VERY RAW and will need a LOT of coaching, but if comparison is true, not many GM's will want to say that they passed on possible next Randy Moss.

[@bmatthews15]

It's still not close. Moss had a longer stride, was .08 seconds faster, 8" higher (47" VERTICAL!!!), w/ sure hands.

[@MeannMugginn]

there is no 'next Randy Moss'

[@JAmCaM212]

Lol. This guy said Randy Moss. The first time you saw Randy Moss at Marshall, you knew he was special. Thomas Jr is a body catcher that can't break tackles. He's MVS dude. Can he be very good? Sure but he's mostly likely will be closer to MVS than Randy Moss.

[@JAmCaM212]

Lol. I just finish watching his 2023 highlights and the first thing that came to mine was Marquez Valdez Scantling (MVS). At 2:49 they also comp him to MVS. 100% accurate. He's big, he's fast but he catches every ball with his body. He cannot break tackles and he has drops. Not sure why people are so high on this guy.

[@thesedaze2381]

Just watched the same film. I noticed that every cradle catch was underthrown. When the ball is thrown correctly he shows some great hands catches.

[@123shoshan]

@@thesedaze2381just the opposite almost every throw is perfect

[@jgok5580]

Chis simms rankings are so awful

[@donjohnson2758]

Like there’s are any better

[@CJStew06]

I'm genuinely confused if we're watching the same guy? There are tons of plays of him catching short hitches or crossers and picking up extra yards from jukes. He's actually quite good at making the first defender miss after the catch. There are some contested situations where it'd be nice to see him catch the ball, but overall I didn't see hands/drops as a glaring red flag. Also, it's not at all just him running to open space in between zones-he has plenty of wins against man where he just beats the corner. Idk, ranking 8 or 15 other receivers ahead of him just seems crazy.

[@kemm1]

Garbage takes, i hope this gets revisited in 2 to 3 years.

[@rakeemwilkerson1300]

Didn’t take that long

[@IsaIbnHalim]

These comps are awful, I’m a Chris Simms guy, I’m a homie (and I’m Black) this is difficult. Data is kinda undeniable, and I know these guys know what they’re talking about.

[@MikeCalloway]

Look at the tape. He’s a beast and he had a lot of under thrown balls that register as “dropped”

[@StayPuftMarshmellow]

Thomas Jr is going to do just fine. Talking heads always think they know best and their always at best 50% wrong.

[@iliftplays]

We love doubters

[@jwynter5857]

These guys are getting MVS and DeMarcus Robinson vibes...I get Randy Moss vibes. I guess time will tell.😛

[@TrueDaniels]

It’s had between Mitchell and Thomas but I think I got to go with Thomas he scored 17 touchdowns and a little faster well maybe a lot faster he ran a 4.33 and looked like he was jogging even on the field he’s blowing by players but looks like he’s not even running full speed he’s just eazy fast and that’s just disrespectful to call him MVS he’s trash compared to Thomas where do you guys brain take you to for a comparison slow down and just don’t throw someone out there they are nowhere near the same or type of player he looked better then Nabers he average more yards but Thomas had 17 touchdowns you just don’t get 17 touchdowns buddy 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@123shoshan]

Your clueless Brian had the best qb throwing him ball

[@123shoshan]

You make no sense Ad has an awful qb Brian Thomas has best qb throwing him ball and nabers takes pressure off him

[@user-ow6pg3ou8m]

All these college stats doesn’t matter. What matters is, what team drafts them and how they use them. Ex. Mecole Hardman. UGA wasn’t that good. KC pretty damn good. Jets trash. Back to KC Super Bowl catch. Let’s stop the cap with college stats and how they translate to the NFL

[@hunt6872]

Lmfao Mecole sucks. What has he done in the NFL that makes him a good WR? Caught a pass in a big game? He was drafted to the Chiefs and was nobody. Is Jauan Jennings in San Fran a top WR too? Smarten up

[@Olinout2468]

Good point bad explanation

[@hailhydra5061]

Hardman 🗑️

[@IAMCAMO904]

I mean if Brian Thomas Jr. is average then wtf is J.J McCarthy?

[@joshf-w9602]

He’s DJ Chark but had a better QB. Combine numbers are scarily similar, mind you Chark went 2nd round and had a 1000 yard season in his 2nd year so there is value in the kind of player on the right team

[@jaym.g.5789]

Christian Watson is the comp yall

[@ledevingreen7920]

I agree with ya I'm not a fan....

[@ahgasegg1205]

All i need to hear to justify taking him top 15 tbh

[@gavinknightjackson6307]

Yall so bad at ur jobs

[@DONKEYKONG1035]

Idk these dudes, is this their “thing”?

[@rakeemwilkerson1300]

Guy in the green don’t know shiii

[@IncineratedHam]

He's not good

[@parker6818]

What

[@josephclayton6735]

Yall are not good at evaluating wrs

[@mikejohnson8373]

PFF is such trash lol

[@dark8prince201]

Brian Thomas Jr. could be a number 2 option in a offense. I don't think he will be a guy that catches 100 balls a year.Use him like Philadelphia used DeSean Jackson or Cincinnati uses Tee Higgins.

[@123shoshan]

He’s much worse don’t ever compare him to higgens

[@zaywhitt502]

🤓

[@deathbyqtip33]

I’m curious, if AD Mitchell is your wr4 is Worthy your WR3? I can’t get behind the argument that Mitchell is better when Worthy outproduced him.

[@123shoshan]

Look who’s throwing Mitchell the ball

[@6393dude]

​@@123shoshan Same guys throwing to Worthy

[@123shoshan]

@@6393dude because Adonai double teamed open up for worthy

[@deathbyqtip33]

@@123shoshan L