Wheel of Prog - DreamTheater Albums Tier List

[@ricardomartins3791]

Train of Thought in C was a crime 😢, even going to B, to me it will always be a S tier album

[@Segagens]

First I thought you were talking about the tuning in C

[@ni_n__ho.oh__n_in]

Well, as much as I enjoy Train of Thought, it sounds to me like a successor to Metallica's Black album - only it is better.

[@AngryCalvin]

I always think of it as Progtallica. It's a great love letter to Metallica and I can't imagine it being possibly better than it already is.

[@blackmamba5659]

Train of Thought is fantastic, so melodic and heavy! I'm not a big fan of the more prog bits of it but still a straight A tier album, definitly better than Octavarium.

[@jeffc1753]

ToT is a masterpiece. Geoff is a curmudgeonly nerd. Anyone who craps on this album can kiss my ass.

[@SuperMrThom]

S: Octavarium and Scenes from a Memory A: Black Clouds, Systematic Chaos, Images and Words

[@pedroolmo]

It's surprising that Kevin Moore was not mentioned as the main reason for IaW and Awake having a unique atmosphere that is not found in the following albums. It is quite obvious if you listen to his work post DT with Chroma Key, Fates Warning and OSI.

[@eptagramma]

the "Kevin Moore factor" is so important

[@bigbugger7660]

Agreed

[@RiffisKing]

Putting systematic chaos that low is a crime imo. To me it's a top 5 album! And what a great tour that was, I think they were on top of their game during that time.

[@albertoalfak]

no, it's a huge mess overall

[@Zzannez]

Could not handle the... systematic chaos 😎@@albertoalfak

[@ProgSnob14]

It's a 7 or 8

[@lopa-u9f]

ohmy Systematic Chaos is great I didn't like it for about 8 years, and then it clicked

[@IHateNicolasCage]

Systematic Chaos is the most forgettable album they’ve produced. It’s like seeing a movie, and then when the credits roll you already forgot what happened.

[@leightnite3056]

"Train of Thought"...S tier man! I'm biased tho, love their metal stuff, and saw em on, and met John and Mike on this tour!

[@ThePhilTorretto]

Train of Thought being in C tier is a crime against humanity. It’s my favorite by far and not coincidentally their most Metal album. I describe it as what happens when DT turn DOWN the prog and turns UP the metal…and that’s just fine by me. Disclaimer: I have complicated relationship with prog. I come to prog Metal via 80’s Iron Maiden, Fates Warning and most importantly Queensrÿche. So I’ve always struggle with the Proggy side of of prog Metal. 🤷🏼‍♂️🤘🏼

[@michaelespinosa9168]

Awake = Dream Theater's finest hour, their absolute Zenith and one of my favorite albums of all time.

[@malawigw]

My fav albums are Permanent Waves, Powerslave and Awake \m/

[@tweevers2]

Awake has been my favorite since the mid 90's

[@llw4451]

Abso-fucking-lutely🎉

[@thr3LoadR]

Agreed. Voices is my favorite song of all time, by any band. The only song that I don't like is Innocence Faded....aside from that, this one hits me hard from beginning to end.

[@albertoalfak]

james voice here is almost unbearable sometimes

[@fluntimes]

Scarred has to be DT's greatest song and it is among so many greats on that album. No way Awake is a C tier.

[@marckossilva7339]

Awake is a S tier album. Dark, melodic and a certain atmospheric charm.

[@AngryCalvin]

Scarred is one of my favorites also. One of James Labries best vocal performance and some of the most catchy instrumental work.

[@pablomontesinos6852]

I really hated that Geoff dude. He only likes ballads and some instrumental tracks, but what a joke to invite someone that doesn't like heavy stuff and just whinning about it whenever he could. I mean, putting Awake on C tear? Really?! And he wanted to put Astonishing on A tear? What a clown! 🤡

[@DonCarnage42]

​@@pablomontesinos6852 Exactly. Why not have dream theater fans to rank the albums? Ridiculous 😮‍💨

[@lopa-u9f]

omfg all these comments showing me I don't want to watch this

[@retorique]

Happy to see Falling Into Infinity in that tier. It was so ahead of the technical prog sensibilites at that time that even the band wasn't prepared for it. Luckily people have learned that there's space for pop elements in prog, which in a pre-Steven Wilson world seemed unthinkable. It's one of their best-aged albums for that very reason.

[@dancasey8172]

Props to anyone and everyone who put "Awake" at S-tier, and extra props to Kyle Fagala who I don't believe spoke a single word of untruth during this hour-long installment.

[@KyleFagala]

Oh man. I can't say that I didn't speak a single word of untruth in this podcast, BUT I appreciate the kind words very much!! And, yes - Awake is an S-tier album for me. No doubt about it.

[@MrGnb123]

Found Kyle’s burner account

[@Marlowe10100]

Awake is their best album, after octavarium I really don't care anymore.@@KyleFagala

[@thr3LoadR]

I agree completely! This has been my first Prog Report video (and I immediately subscribed), and I was nodding my head at Kyle throughout the entire thing.

[@shagginwagon8447]

Totally agree. @KyleFagala is the voice of the people!

[@Bourberic]

The reason the first two records have a different feel is the lack of Kevin Moore. His overall feel is captivating once you focus on it.

[@KyleFagala]

Agreed!!

[@soocool78]

Man, my tastes in music has changed so much over the years. I stopped listening to DT after constant disappointment since Black Clouds. I agreed so much with Portnoy that they needed a break to get a fresh take. Everything since has been so stale, with only a few good highlights. Then every once in a while I'll throw on older DT, and just remember why i fell in love with this type of music. Their other stuff had so much more heart and creativity. If someone can point me to a song that has good melodies, creative vocals or ANYTHING other than playing instruments fast, please let me know.

[@jeremiahnations8808]

At Witt's End-Distance over Time

[@ThePhilTorretto]

100% agree. I’ve felt that everything since Systematic Chaos is “paint by numbers” stale. I saw DT on the View from the Top of the World tour and literally almost fell asleep. Just boring.

[@them2002]

I wholeheartedly agree. I didn't realize it at the time, but yes, I feel Portnoy was spot on. I saw them a few years ago and it was so boring. I'm hoping the return of Portnoy reinvigorate. Although I feel like they should take some time to write the new album.

[@tarkus1056]

It depends on what side of the band you like more but.. Breaking All Illusions, Bridges In The Sky, Illumination Theory, At Wit's End, Barstool Warrior, A View From The Top of the World, Transcending Time. I think those are my favorites from that era.

[@guidobottazzo]

100% agree here. I stopped listening to them ten years ago. Disappointed with everything they did after Awake. We will see what happens in the new album. Let's always remember Kevin Moore is gone.

[@andylewin3029]

Awake as a C tier is criminal. It is one of their best albums. A tier if not S tier.

[@them2002]

Oh man... When Dream & Day Unite at the bottom breaks my heart. It's such a creative album.and the songs are so good.

[@psychofunksoldier02]

The problem with 6 Degrees IMO is that the title track sounds way better live on the Score DVD with the real orchestra vs the fake sounds on the studio album.

[@KyleFagala]

I definitely agree with you there.

[@Andrey_Yurkoff]

The problem is that 6 Degrees didn’t bring anything new to the table.

[@KyleFagala]

@@Andrey_Yurkoff Honestly, at the time, I felt that way - particularly with the epic. It felt like ideas that had been better executed on previous albums. The standalone song disc, on the other hand, featured some new and unique moments I think.

[@enricopallazzo2987]

Can’t believe no one liked Rite of Passage!!!?? Images is timeless and to me one of the best albums ever made and I still get called to it once a week at least. Minus pull me under cause it was commercially pushed.

[@marcelpineda1700]

Excellent episode!! I hope next one is Rush

[@CompleteProducer84]

ALWAYS here for the DT content! Thank you!

[@AnthonyStudio]

Started screaming at my monitor halfway through until Awake was moved to S tier where it belongs 🙂. Why no A Change of Seasons!? Thanks guys, this was a fun one! Subscribed.

[@halestormtv]

Change of Seasons is not an official studio album, it's an EP that was chock full of covers. Minus the title track, it's essentially a cover album. It's not terrible by any means, but I understand why they decided not to include it.

[@GaudyGabriev]

Images and Words, Scenes, Awake, Six Degrees. I don't know how there's even a question about those being their 4 best albums.

[@Aenigmakil]

Easily top four. Just my order puts Awake top. And Black Clouds is fifth.

[@henrywalton5967]

i find myself going back to DoT a lot

[@TheSateef]

i'd add the self titled alum and take away Awake

[@Hegge2005]

Octavarium is up there for me!

[@fooser77]

I wish to propose a challenge to you all .. This might take some time, as some or even most / all of you have never heard of this band .. That being said, this is a proj channel, and this band is definitely .............. prog! I know at least one of you (or some) know of Opeth and it's relation to Porcupine Tree .. Speaking of PT, there are certainly elements of PT in this band as of Opeth .. The band I speak of, is Extol .. I would love to see this get played in the Wheel of Prog at some point .. This band, though on possible permanent hiatus, deserves so much more attention and exposure .. Ask the likes of Alex Rudinger, Bill Champlin, and Jay Graydon ..

[@lappado]

Great list! Just one note on the artwork for FII: It was created by Storm Thorgerson, not Hugh Syme. Syme started doing work for DT from Octavarium and onwards. Thorgerson is famed for his work with Pink Floyd among others.

[@IgnacioCentu96]

Train of thought was a very heavy album that really molded the next 10 years of guitar shred. It literally educated the most proficient shreders that went to do from prog to even metalcore. Its really a prog album? Of course not. But the influence of this album is undeniable

[@alvarovasquez998]

My list: 1.- Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence 2.- Awake 3.- Black Clouds & Silver Linings 4.- Metropolis, Pt.2: Scenes from a Memory 5.- Images & Words 6.- Systematic Chaos 7.- A Dramatic Turn of Events 8.- Train of Thought 9.- Octavarium 10.- Falling into Infinity 11.- When Dream and Day Unite 12.- Dream Theater 13.- A View from the Top of the World 14.- Diatance Over Time 15.- The Astonishing

[@Aenigmakil]

I agree with your top five. Just in a different order for me. But those five are definitely top.

[@blackmamba5659]

The best thing about Dream Theater is that for some people an album is S tier and for others it's D tier.

[@Bolteus]

Daniel puts Systematic Chaos in C then goes on to say he loves basically every song.

[@GabeSegura801]

he says he loves everything. I dont know how many times he says "its one of my favorite songs". I dont think if it was his list he wouldnt put anything in the C & D teir.. lol

[@xeyon]

Dramatic turn is s tier for me. I heard it for the first time a couple years ago and I love the riffs and solos so much.

[@BrandonGSVG]

Completely agree. Drum sound aside, it’s everything a Dream Theater album should be.

[@barrett8637]

Breaking All Illusions is sooooo strong and feels very Portnoyesque in it's composition.

[@spudfella4937]

Best mangini album. That and the self titled album.

[@albertoalfak]

nah, it's full of pointless shredding, and it contains some of the worst songs they ever put out

[@Andrey_Yurkoff]

@@albertoalfakworst up to that time. The worst was yet to follow.

[@MetalheadNation]

Hahaha glad I’m not the only one who hears a lot of Holdsworth in that Trial of Tears solo, maybe my favorite Petrucci solo ever

[@solarwinds5114]

For me, S: Octavarium, Images and Words, Scenes from a Memory A: Train of Thought, Six Degrees, Black Clouds, Dramatic Turn, Systematic Chaos B: Distance Over Time, A View From The Top of the World, Self Titled C: Falling Into Infinity, Astonishing D: When Dream and Day Unite

[@markprice9579]

This is spot on. Exactly how I’d do it.

[@mposh]

where's Awake?

[@solarwinds5114]

@@mposh B tier

[@nicosimioni7363]

This is also how I'd rank the albums. I could put SFAM at number one and Octavarium at two, even though Octavarium is by far my favorite DT song without any other track coming even close to it. But yeah, this is a really great list imo.

[@yarbgreat1]

ADTOE was my first DT album, so I'm biased, but I love the sound production of that album. I like the way the drums sound. That album has more of an Octovacrium feel to me. I love the piano section of On The Backs of Angles. Lost Not Forgotten has one of Petrucci's best solos.

[@robertpannullo5687]

Another great episode .. this is such a good idea , it’s sparks an interesting discussion!

[@arnaudb.7669]

Great show. Looking forward to next episodes!

[@tute8234]

Black Clouds is one that I hear the most.

[@NotesReviews]

Dan had a chance to make this the correct layout if he had put SC in A and move FII down to C. That would be the correct order IMP

[@KyleFagala]

Systematic Chaos in A tier? That's almost as crazy as me putting FII in A! haha.

[@fmainier]

Train of Thought is hands down tear S and Endless Sacrifice top 3 songs from them

[@TheRealJoeNathan]

I didn't realize how much I liked Endless Sacrifice until I saw it live. Jordan even brought out his keytar which was awesome. It's in my top 20 for sure, maybe even top 10.

[@jeffc1753]

Yep, ToT is a masterpiece. Geoff = NERD.

[@B00STICLES]

Train of thought is the goat wtf they on

[@fmainier]

I say more, endless sacrifice is in my top20 songs of all time

[@GabeSegura801]

"the count of tuscany is my favorite DT song" but also says he cant get into Systematic chaos because "the vampire and all that I dont dig that stuff" 🧐

[@jasonjames6383]

S: Train of Thought, Images and Words, Scenes from a Memory A: Six Degrees, Awake, Octavarium B: Falling Into Infinity, Black Clouds, Dramatic Turn C: Systematic Chaos, Distance Over Time, Self Titled D: When Dream and Day Unite, Astonishing, A View From The Top of the World

[@Neo-Midgar]

Wow, I don't agree with Geoff on *_anything_* 😂

[@goonerross4834]

People need to remember, DT started as a metal band, with prog tendencies , rather than the other way around......so, to say Train of Thought isn't strong...is ridiculous

[@robertoiorio390]

Scenes from a memory is the best album of time. S tier: six degrees, awake, train of thought, change of season, i&w.

[@jerichostevens2711]

I think that's the only album I've heard from them.. Use to listen to it over and over again as teenager...

[@matthewaper3716]

This discussion is great, but to say that all of the tiers have to have the same number of albums in them is flawed.

[@progreport]

That's our take on this and what makes it fun. :)

[@mateusfragallo4049]

Great job guys! Six Degrees (the song) is a MONSTER of a song. I agree that the overture might be a little too long, but that is because we probably already know the songs. However, if it is the very first time you listen to it, it probably justify its length imo. I'd be great to see a The Dear Hunter episode 😉

[@markhaessler4395]

S - Scenes From a Memory pt2, Train of Thought, 6 Degrees A - Images and Words, Awake, Systematic Chaos B - Octavarium, Black Clouds, Dramatic Turn of Events C - Falling into infinity, View from the top, Dream Theater, D - Distance over Time, When Dream and Day, Astonishing

[@cilibrasi1040]

I agree with this list 100%!! I listen to Scenes, 6 degrees and Train straight through all the time.

[@dafaz4685]

Guys love this type of content, please do Devin Townsend and all of his groups, band project and SYL

[@malawigw]

video will be 18 hours long

[@tombiby5892]

He doesn’t have more than yes or rush.

[@AngryCalvin]

The Astonishing is one of my favorites albums by any band. Dream Theater is my favorite band. I have every album of course and I don't understand why this album gets so much hate. Yeah it's very different for a Dream Theater album. It doesn't have a lot of metal in it. Yes it's probably a bit longer than it should be. But it's one of the most beautiful albums I have ever heard in my entire life. I would have to put it in S tier with Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence and Metropolis Part 2: Scenes from a Memory. It's a very mature and different direction for my favorite band and I think it pretty much blows away any Ayreon album as much as I really like Ayreon.

[@ThePhilTorretto]

In the end not a completely crazy tier list for DT. FII is pretty high in A-tier but I wouldn’t rank it lower than B. FII is definitely DTs most under appreciated album. I would have included A Change of Seasons in this and it would be B tier for me as well. ACoS is one of the only 20+ minute “songs” I actually like. Train of Thought is S tier from me but I can see this being a polarizing album. The more prog leaning fans wouldn’t like it as much but the pure “metal-heads” like me were waiting for this album. Glad I recently found this channel.

[@svatoplukkurka4417]

I'm a more of a prog-leaning fan, not much of a metal-head, and Train of Thought is definitely S-tier for me!

[@CharlesSoulzOfficial]

Great episode! Scenes and Images always at the top :)

[@Gpppx]

I'd definetely swap falling and octavarium with train and black clouds. Also, a change of season if considered an alvum is number1 top S tier !!

[@AlfredoNuevo]

When dream and day unite is an S album. A fortune in lies...ytse jam ....the killing hand...afterlife...only a matter of time ...light fuse and get away....simply incredible

[@jjkeyboards]

This guy gets it 🤌🤌🤌

[@capeda9942]

"I could put it in D and move The Astonishing up to S..." "NOOOOO" lmao

[@RDog4484]

Moving train of thought down instead of falling into infinity?? I don’t think it’s their best but it’s one of them.

[@mtc5]

I'm so surprised to hear "Awake and Images and Words have something that DT albums have", "The cinematic feel of Awake", "Space Dye Vest"... and yet no mention of Kevin Moore? The names of Derek S. or Mike Mangini came more often than Kevin Moore's.

[@progreport]

Yeah that's fair. We just caught up in the conversation. But Kevin was amazing on those albums.

[@josel.7201]

Very good point sir

[@NedJeffery]

I love The Silent Man! one of my favourites on Awake.

[@variablevolume3059]

I like how you guys bring up how the sound changed after awake... Kevin left, and they utilized computer software recording techniques like Protools more as the technology progressed, so that changed the sound of the albums after Awake as well..

[@jeffscalise5927]

Random comment: anyone remember the last DT/MP release (Raw Dog)? Cool song!

[@WWROABM]

Thing with The Astonishing is it takes a really sophisticated perspective to understand and appreciated. I love this record because it is 2 hours. It is A or B level because it challenges the listener. 100% in the Geoff camp here. I read the DVD didn’t get done because they just forgot to arrange it all, and in the end it was super expensive, for them.

[@DrAkuIa1]

I would love to see a Shadow Gallery, Ayreon or Pain of Salvation tier list.

[@robertfischer1869]

WHAT!?!? Falling into infinity over A View From The Top Of The World! A View is clearly an A and infinity is a D!! Plus there's no way DOT is a D!

[@georgemackay5735]

When Dream and Day Unite is consistently underrated. Easily A or B tier for me. Opeth would be a good band to do one of these for. Maybe Rush as well, if you want the video to be 3 hours long.

[@SubhadipSen]

Waiting for the 24 hour Zappa video

[@progreport]

@@SubhadipSen Haha, it would take that long!

[@matthewzang6688]

A Dramatic Turn of Events is so underrated it’s ridiculous. Such a great blend of classic prog, groovy riffs, and organic songwriting. It would be at least A tier for me, personally.

[@joeyfrevola5106]

Fun times, for me its: S Scenes from a memory, Six Degrees, The Astonishing A Dramatic Turn, Images and Words, Systematic Chaos B Octavarium, Train of Thought, Black Clouds C Falling into Infinity, Awake, Dream Theater D View From Top, Distance over Time, WDaDU

[@BigDVulturous]

Lol the first time I got a chance to see DT live was with the Astonishing tour. I actually really enjoy it, enough to have gotten a signed vinyl at the show I went to 😂

[@BenKFBR392]

The riff in Rite of Passage for the solo section, and the riff in Shattered Fortress just before and during the keyboard solo, that develops from riffs in both Glass Prison and Dying Soul, are two of my favorite DT riffs.

[@KBH27]

Pretty sure Hugh Syme did not do Falling Into Infinity. Someone who had done art for Floyd

[@yarbgreat1]

I like most of the songs on the Self Titled album, but somehow still feel like its not a great album. It just doesnt feel together. Much prefer Distance over Time. Interesting themes.

[@bchedda33]

Would love to see you do this again but with Portnoy as a guest.

[@MegaModulator]

1. Train of Thought (2003) 2. Awake (1994) 3. Images and Words (1992) 4. Black Clouds & Silver Linings (2009) 5. Metropolis Pt. 2: Scenes From a Memory (1999) 6. A View From the Top of the World (2021) 7. Falling Into Infinity (1997) 8. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence (2002) 9. A Dramatic Turn of Events (2011) 10. Systematic Chaos (2007) 11. Octavarium (2005) 12. Dream Theater (2013) 13. Distance Over Time (2019) 14. When Dream and Day Unite (1989) 15. The Astonishing (2016)

[@keithshapland903]

I bought all the albums from When Dream and Day unite came out on vinyl..then moved forward...And so my ranking is as they came and I digested them. Awake is in 'S' every time...'Voices' is epic!

[@Ebastine]

Not exactly prog but if y'all like Maiden please do a ranking of them!

[@progreport]

I don’t think we’ll get to them but you never know.

[@Aenigmakil]

​@@progreportnah keep it prog 🤘🏾

[@TheRealJoeNathan]

S: Images & Words, Black Clouds & Silver Linings, Awake A: Train of Thought, Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence, Scenes From a Memory B: A Dramatic Turn of Events, Octavarium, A View From the Top of the World C: Falling Into Infinity, Systematic Chaos, The Astonishing D: Dream Theater, Distance Over Time, When Dream and Day Unite

[@sjolson68]

The S and A tiers are right out of my preference. A Change of Seasons is also S tier, for me, and shoutout to Kyle for mentioning it.

[@evilasiobjr]

Funny to see that SDoIT isn't A tier for some of you, which makes me think other fans have the same opinion, but it's up there for me, top 3 easily! And I also love ADToE, not their worst drum sound at all, better sound and song writing than the self-titled and BCSL for example imo. Great show, guys! Keep up the good work

[@HawksNHabsPC]

My List S - Scenes, Images, Six Degrees A - Awake, Black Clouds, Train of Thought B - Octavarium, Astonishing, Dramatic Turn C - Distance, Infinity, Dream and Day D - Systematic, Self Titled, View Overall you guys had a great list!

[@CompleteProducer84]

Nice list! It is so refreshing to see someone rank The Astonishing in anything but D. I would also have it in B. And if they could have trimmed the fat and did some final editing, it could very well be one of my top 5 favs.

[@MrGnb123]

@@CompleteProducer84Yes!

[@Aenigmakil]

​@@MrGnb123dear God, no 😢😅

[@vince8081]

Dudes... you forgot my fav ever track from them, a change of season. I think it's their masterpiece and most epic piece. Otherwise it's a well done tier list, totally agree with it.

[@jordanpantaleo554]

Take "Just Let Me Breathe" off of FII? ...Are you insane?

[@dylanhewitt2616]

S: Metropolis Pt 2, Awake, Images & Words A: Black Clouds, Dramatic Turn Of Events, Train Of Thought B: Six Degrees, Octavarium, Systematic Chaos C: Falling Into Infinity, Distance Over Time, View From... D: The Astonishing, Self Titled, When Dream And Day Unite

[@yarbgreat1]

Love the second half of Falling into Infinity, not so much the first.

[@fourseasons4105]

1. Six degrees 2. Metropolis 3. Images & words 4. Train of thought 5. Awake 6. Dramatic turn of events 7. Systematic chaos 8. Octavarium 9. Black clouds & silver linings 10. Falling into infinity 11. When dream and day unite 12. View from the top of the world 13. Distance over time 14. The astonishing 15. Self titled

[@Aenigmakil]

S: Awake A: Images and Words, Scenes From A Memory, Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence, Train of Thought, Black Clouds B: When Dream & Day Unite, Octavarium, Systematic Chaos, A Dramatic Turn of Events C: Falling Into Infinity, Dream Theater, Distance Over Time, A View from the Top of the World D: The Astonishing

[@aVataR_ehyeh]

Been looking for an excuse to make one of these, so now I'm making one, and making one. :) Your format (ordered within tiers): S Metropolis Pt.2: Scenes From A Memory (1999) Images and Words (1992) Awake (1994) A Octavarium (2005) When Dream and Day Unite (1989) Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence (2002) B Train of Thought (2003) A Dramatic Turn Of Events (2011) Falling Into Infinity (1997) C Black Clouds & Silver Linings (2009) Dream Theater (2013) Systematic Chaos (2007) D The Astonishing (2016) Distance Over Time (2019) A View from the Top of the World (2021) My usual format (not ordered within tiers): S+ Metropolis Pt.2: Scenes From A Memory (1999) S Awake (1994) Images and Words (1992) A+ Octavarium (2005) Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence (2002) Train of Thought (2003) When Dream and Day Unite (1989) A A Dramatic Turn Of Events (2011) Falling Into Infinity (1997) B+ Black Clouds & Silver Linings (2009) Dream Theater (2013) B Systematic Chaos (2007) The Astonishing (2016) C-F/Meh A View from the Top of the World (2021) Distance Over Time (2019)

[@Moshugaani]

I agree with Daniel that when a particular tier is already full and you want to add an album to it, then you should only be allowed to move an album one tier above or below, not to move it anywhere. Moving the replaced album anywhere breaks the ranking that another person already gave it.

[@alexandrepontes4003]

Train of Thought is A, what a crime... You ve got to ignore this wild card. And Awake is the best álbum of DT. This guy Geoff cant judge alone. Im sorry to tell you that, I usually respect anyones opinion, but this two álbuns being so low would hurt me so much. Its about style, I know. And thanks to Daniel.for doing some repair on this.

[@MrGnb123]

Honestly I’m a nice person … just not a fan of ToT!!!

[@alexandrepontes4003]

Look, I didnt mean to be disrespectfull . It was not my intention. Maybe ia the heavy side of the band, perhaps you really dont like It. However, its a big important side of their sound. By the way, I liked your comments in the Yes contest.

[@TheBoss4711]

S - Images and Words - Metropolis Pt. 2 - Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence A - Awake - Train of Thought - Black Clouds & Silver Linings B - Falling Into Infinity - Octavarium - Systematic Chaos C - Dream Theater - The Astonishing - A View From the Top of the World D - Distance Over Time - A Dramatic Turn of Events - When Dream and Day Unite

[@Beefnhammer]

Agree with most of this, but someone needs to explain the hate for Distance Over Time to me. It's always been my favorite Mangini era album.

[@faustomadebr]

SC and ToT are A, easy. FiI can go to B, given it is not as close as Dream Theater prog style... but I love the album.

[@svatoplukkurka4417]

51:45 & 53:57 - Kyle, Misunderstood isn't the song on Six Degrees where the DJ scratches are. Wanna know where they are? F***ing Glass Prison. That's where.

[@richardwoodhouse8404]

Thanks for doing DT, been a fan since 92 and they are my favourite band, my favourite album is A VIEW FROM THE TOP OF THE WORLD, for me there is no other band that comes close to the amount of QUALITY songs they have produced ❤❤❤

[@7strSlnger678]

And the fact that they're still putting out relevant material this far into their career is a testament to how incredible they are!

[@graysongould6239]

I think that when you bump an album without using the wildcard, you should only be able to move it up or down 1 tier, this way it would take multiple votes to drastically shift the order.

[@AllMediaReviewsPodcast]

I agree with miuch of this. Here's mine (I should make a video. I already did a SONGS list video a few months ago). S: Awake, Images and Words, Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence A: Scenes from a Memory, B: Falling Into Infinity (this would be A is you include the Cleaning out the Closet Tracks), When Dream and Day Unite, Train of Thought C: Octavarium, Black Clouds and Silver Linings, A Dramatic Turn of Events, Distance Over Time D: Systematic Chaos, Dream Theater Haven't Heard in full: The Astonishing and A View from the Top of the World, although I suspect both would go in D.

[@KyleFagala]

If the record company hadn't meddled with Falling Into Infinity, it would have been better. No doubt about that.

[@AllMediaReviewsPodcast]

@@KyleFagala yeah. I feel like songs such as Raise the Knife, The Way It Used to Be and Speak To Me, are actually better than nearly every track on FII. But I guess that's why those did get released, most recently on the Lost But Not Forgotten stuff.

[@paramourcat]

rough to watch a bunch of guys who really don't care much for metal to rank a prog metal band's albums

[@Jdmp09]

15. Falling Into Infinity 14. When Dream And Day Unite 13. Black Clouds And Silver Linings 12. Systematic Chaos 11. Dream Theater 10. Octavarium 09. Train Of Thought 08. Si Degrees Of Inner Turbulence 07. The Astonishing 06. A View From The Top Of The World 05. Distance Over Time 04. Awake 03. Images And Words 02. A Dramatic Turn Of Events 01. Scenes From a Memory

[@patrick4384]

How Falling Into Infinity not only got into A tier but also was never considered for a bump is beyond my understanding. It's not D tier but come on guys, you put Train of Thought below it? Here's the correct ranking: S: SFAM, I&W, Awake A: ToT, 6DOIT Everything else is lower but the order is up for debate. Also WDADU gets way too much hate, at least the band sounds like they've got something to prove on that album.

[@ColossusBall]

I've tried a couple times to make it through this video, but I just keep stopping it to listen to an album.

[@ephesians.6]

First time on the channel - this was great and a lot of fun with the wheel! Now that I'm here, I thought I'd tell you a funny story. I first heard of Dream Theater when I saw the video for Pull Me Under on Headbangers Ball when it came out. I was so excited about this new sound and this new band and how hard that song was that I went out and bought the cassette of Images And Words, and I couldn't wait to hear more of what this killer new band sounded like! I had a bunch of my metalhead friends over, and we sat down in the living room to listen to the whole album together for the first time. Pull Me Under kicks it off. Everybody's just stoked on it. And then... Another Day comes on and the embarrassment on my face when I had to explain why Kenny G (cause duh it sounded like him so of course my friends thought that) was on a metal album - the mortified feeling I had was so intense that I didn't listen to Dream Theater again or play that album all the way through until the late 2000s. True story!

[@progreport]

Thanks for checking it out. Funny story. But opposite for me. I loved that a metal band used a sax on a song. Thought it was so different. 😀

[@ephesians.6]

@progreport oh it's different alright 😆 especially at 17 in a room full of your peers haha

[@svenjohanviktor]

Falling Into Infinity in fourth place sure is a hot take! Not sure if I agree with all of your opinions, but an interesting listen for sure.

[@daveycretin664]

Dudes! When WDADU came out, l was working at a record store on Long Island, New York. A coworker of mine knew MP and was good friends with him. The WHOLE band came down to the store to sign the display that she had made in the store. I remember the five cats arriving, all dressed in all black. They probably signed something for me, maybe my CD or a poster. So, since l was there from (basically) the get go, l have a particular fondness for their debut record. I also saw the late, great Charlie Dominici play a full show live with the boys as well. Living in NY, I’ve seen a lot of classic DT shows and special events. I was at the infamous Steve Stone show at Sundance, the acoustic trio show at Mulcahy’s Pub in Wantagh, the Score show at Radio City Music Hall, etc. l plan on doing a show on this on my tiny, little, small potatoes 🥔 channel in the near future. I’ll leave you with the fact that MP sent me an advance cassette of I&W, months before it officially came out. That’s because he knew how much l loved the debut release, especially “Only a Matter of Time.” Somewhere in my rather voluminous collection, l still have that audio cassette tape. Time to watch your tier ranking of my fave all time act, YES! Keep up the funky, fresh work. Cheers from The Big Apple. 🍏 Rock Out & Prog On… … in each and every lexicon! Your pal and mine, ~ The Dreaded, Shredded and Unleaded Davey Cretin from CRETIN CLASSICS.

[@moonlightreveries1459]

Distance Over Time is an exceptional album. Underrated dude…. So many good solos, melodies, and sounds. “Barstool Warrior” and “Fall Into the Light” are exceptional songs…… It’s also a pretty heavy album. I love that album. I like it more then metropolis part 2. I barely like that one. It has too many soft moments and just didn’t do it for me. We all hear music differently I guess. At least we all love Dream Theater; that’s all that matters. Systematic Chaos is amazing, you guys are tripping …it deserves at least “A” tier. Images and Words belongs in “S” for sure. Awake is amazing so, A tier is fine. Train of Thought is amazing and deserves “A” or “S” tier. Just my opinions.

[@drummerdan95]

Feels like they finally really hit their stride post-Portnoy with that one, I really enjoy the last two DT records.

[@wjadragon6782]

Wow, no love for the new stuff, I could not put any under a B.

[@josephtattum6365]

Systematic Chaos is a weird one. Not a top tier album, but has some God tier moments. Ministry of Lost Souls has my favorite guitar b8t of any DT song. But it is hard to take moments s whole albums

[@Beefnhammer]

Agreed, it's definitely uneven but In the Presence of Enemies goes so hard.

[@Aenigmakil]

Just started this and I'm wondering: Who is this Jeff guy? We really wouldn't get on much 😂

[@resoundingsource6595]

I’d do.. S: scenes, six degrees, I&W A: falling, Awake, TOT B: debut, black clouds, octavarium C: self titled D: etc