Wheel of Prog - Opeth Albums Tier with Mike Portnoy

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The Prog Report

The Prog Report

9 ай бұрын

Mike Portnoy joins Roie, Dan, and Vic on this special episode of Wheel of Prog to help rank the albums of Opeth. How would you rank these? Let us know in the comments.
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@MikePortnoyDT1
@MikePortnoyDT1 9 ай бұрын
This was so much fun! Btw, I should’ve mentioned in my comment in the podcast revealing how Mikael told me he ripped off DT with a certain song (you’ll have to watch the video for it 😉), I shoulda mentioned how I returned the favor when I blatantly ripped him off while writing Repentance w DT! Not only was the music directly trying to cop an Opeth vibe, but when I wrote the lyrics and vocal melodies I was absolutely trying to channel Akerfeldt vibes! 🤘😎
@BreakingAllIllusions
@BreakingAllIllusions 9 ай бұрын
It's always a pleasure to listen to you Mike, thank you so much for taking the time out to do this "Wheel of Prog" 💕🎶💕 I absolutely LOVE "Systematic Chaos". 'In The Presence of Enemies (The Heretic and The Dark Master)' is a MASTERPIECE. I'm glad you guys performed it LIVE in it's entirety and thanks for adding that performance on the "Chaos In Motion 2007 - 2008" DVD 🙂
@resoundingsource6595
@resoundingsource6595 9 ай бұрын
I was thinking that as well, and was waiting for that mention! 😊🤘
@Ignazyoh
@Ignazyoh 9 ай бұрын
Your live version with him sounds so good! You should really do a project together
@williamreynolds3487
@williamreynolds3487 9 ай бұрын
Mikael has been very open about ripping off other bands, so I’m sure he wouldn’t care at all haha
@mvunit3
@mvunit3 9 ай бұрын
Mike, I have always wanted to thank you . . . I always felt that you were a guy down my street that I could call and say "Hey dude, come over, I got a few new Albums, lets listen!". I have been a fan of your work with DT since "WDADU" that I got on Lp (which I still have and 3 different CD versions) after I saw an ad on the back of Kerrang Magazine that had the album cover and band shot, and a quote that said from a music journalist; "If you like Rush and Queensrÿche, you'll LOVE Dream Theater". I bought that mag at a music superstore in Costa Mesa Calif. called "Music Market" (now long gone). And for months waited for that album, it finally came in and put it on my turntable, and been a fan ever since and followed all the projects/bands you've been part of. Thanks for keeping Prog Metal/Progressive Rock alive, and making sure that people get to know the early pioneers who may have fell through the cracks, or forgotten through time because the genre has grown and expanded into various subgenres (like Opeth). It always brings a HUGE smile on my face whenever you mention *Watchtower* and especially *Fates Warning* (who sadly, I found out they broke-up/or are on a indefinite sabbatical, from a crew member of FW at the "Dreamsonic" show in Inglewood, we were the only 2 wearing FW shirts). It's sad that FW never really got the attention they so richly deserved, from the "John Arch" era, up to the end with "Ray Alder". And I appreciated your quote on the Anniversary Edition of "Awaken the Guardian": _"Very often fans and critic credit Dream Theater for creating a whole new genre of progressive metal music in the late '90s/early '90s, But the truth is Fates Warning were doing it years before us."_ I hope Jim Matheos & John Arch still has a _3rd_ *Arch/Matheos* album in them. That would answer a prayer to see Arch live in concert if he decided to do a limited tour and make it to SoCal. As a Music nerd, connoisseur, writer and sometimes guitarist (and back to being a Conceptual Designer), I have written many _lengthy comments_ under videos, so I'll have to control myself here 😊. Just wanted to say thanks for keeping the music alive, and your like-minded knowledge and opinions about Metal, Progressive Rock, Prog Metal, and the musics we grew-up with. I have a LOT more to say, but you can always go here to get a taste of what got me into these genres: mavearworx.weebly.com/blog/witnessing-the-birth-of-progressive-metal-part-1-of-2 (I'm sure a lot of links within need to be replaced). Opeth is a band I had finally sunk my teeth into by the time "Still Life" was already released, and then went backwards into their catalogue by the time "Blackwater Park" had just came out. So this will be a very exceptional episode. I talk about them and others at-length in my essay, many that have influenced you, DT and your various bandmates through the years. I hope you and others enjoy (and other music related essay's). Btw - you are one of my favorite Drummers, I have always loved your use of various cymbals and fills. I'm not a drummer, but I'm a huge fan from Jazz/Fusion to Metal and its a instrument I wished I learned when I was younger. I'm sure my neighbors are very happy about that 😛. - Take care Mike, and thanks again, I hope you and family are well \m/.
@XiyuYang
@XiyuYang 9 ай бұрын
Orchid and Morningrise were not bad albums. Opeth went for a completely different style after these two but to me, they were great.
@stevemuzak8526
@stevemuzak8526 9 ай бұрын
I listen to Abbey Road remastered versions of these albums and now I appreciate them so much more. New mix is fantastic. Mikael's growl sound so much better on Abbey Road remasters.
@zinAab79
@zinAab79 9 ай бұрын
Those are not bad albums, but compared to everything that came after, both albums sounds like they still were finding a sound, so the strong Opeth personality we love was still uncooked but very well on track. I quite like some things they did on those albums that sadly they neved tried before, like fretless bass. They never did something like to bid you farewell
@timmypagee
@timmypagee 9 ай бұрын
@@zinAab79Sorceress is a piece of shit near Morningrise or Orchid.
@BlackSailPass_GuitarCovers
@BlackSailPass_GuitarCovers 9 ай бұрын
They are more than great... In my opinion Opeth never surpassed them. S: Morningrise A: Orchid, Still Life, Ghost Reveries B: MAYH, Blackwater Park, Deliverance C: Damnation, Watershed, Pale Communion, most Dream Theater albums D: Heritage, Sorceress, ICV
@eltrotatorta7388
@eltrotatorta7388 9 ай бұрын
Orchid, MAYH, Morningrise, still life, bwp all of them are fukn great albums
@arumyn3070
@arumyn3070 9 ай бұрын
That 5-minute middle section of Black Rose Immortal starting from around minute 9 is hands down my favorite Opeth moment ever. I live in Iran and here we don't have access to CDs or anything, so when I downloaded that song from some random Napster clone (I was like 10 or something) all I got was this section, cleanly cut, so for years I didn't even know that the actual song was way longer than that.
@dolinofolde
@dolinofolde 8 ай бұрын
That sounds miraculous. The song is a masterpiece each riff is like a song in it's own. Things like that have deep meaning I'm sure you were very happy when you discovered the full song. :)
@golgol4903
@golgol4903 8 ай бұрын
oh boy, Iran... all the best to you! My brother once went there with his ex girlfriend (an Iranian he met in Europe) and it was a huge cultural shock. The way women are treated there, man ;/
@arumyn3070
@arumyn3070 6 ай бұрын
@@dolinofolde Hell yeah, I actually bought a guitar again just 2 days ago and I've promised myself to learn the whole song, one riff a day
@arumyn3070
@arumyn3070 6 ай бұрын
@@golgol4903 Thanks, yeah it's pretty terrifying how little human lives are actually worth down here
@soakedbearrd
@soakedbearrd 2 ай бұрын
BRI is such a good song, amazing counterpoint. It’s folksy, hard hitting, soft and mellow and overall hits me like a classical musical piece in structure.
@Lukkern
@Lukkern 9 ай бұрын
Opeth is my favorite band of all time! And i honestly think it's one of the very few bands that don't have one single bad album. Lucky me!
@stevemuzak8526
@stevemuzak8526 9 ай бұрын
I totally agree. Every album is special and unique.
@TheMrAdax
@TheMrAdax 9 ай бұрын
Heritage is fkin awful!
@Heatwave9000
@Heatwave9000 5 ай бұрын
They do have bad albums though 🤦
@quercingtime
@quercingtime 3 ай бұрын
@@Heatwave9000 they really don't, it's more like if you don't like the change of genre
@Nosferatu1022
@Nosferatu1022 9 ай бұрын
Your arms, my hearse is S tier. I'm shocked you glossed over it. The composition, the lyrics, the concept. It's a work of art. Truly shocked by that one.
@joaopaulobonomeneto1287
@joaopaulobonomeneto1287 8 ай бұрын
My favourite Opeth album hands down. I really don't understand all the hate... Only thing people point out is "bad recording quality" and something like that...
@golgol4903
@golgol4903 8 ай бұрын
I mean just look how they treated Orchid and Morningrise. I understand that something needs to be on the bottom of the ranking but the way they talked about these albums was disrespectful imo.
@josephernandez3465
@josephernandez3465 8 ай бұрын
This album has a different atmosphere, its own magic. At least an A tier, without a doubt.
@disres1337
@disres1337 8 ай бұрын
@@golgol4903theres a reason most people dont like these albums that much. It doesnt mean they dont have their place or cant be favorites for some, but it makes total sense for them to talk about them how they do…
@zenoslime
@zenoslime 5 ай бұрын
easily their best imo. 100% agreed.
@psychofunksoldier02
@psychofunksoldier02 9 ай бұрын
Hours of Wealth deserves a mention for some of the best soulful vocals and guitar on display.
@basscom77
@basscom77 9 ай бұрын
One of my favourite Opeth songs
@snieznybalwan
@snieznybalwan 9 ай бұрын
Absolute banger song
@SkorpioMusic
@SkorpioMusic 9 ай бұрын
It's also my favorite guitar solo of the entire Opeth catalog. :)
@Justinlmd
@Justinlmd 9 ай бұрын
For more of that sound, check out Akerfeldt’s solo on Porcupine Tree’s Arriving Somewhere
@SkorpioMusic
@SkorpioMusic 9 ай бұрын
@@Justinlmd and that is my favorite Akerfeldt solo of all time. Good call! 😁👍
@Ben__David
@Ben__David 9 ай бұрын
I would love to see a Wheel of Prog for Riverside!
@pongop2179
@pongop2179 9 ай бұрын
For me, "Out Of Myself" and "Second Life Syndrome" would be at the top of the list! 😀 and "ADHD" and "REM" would be at the bottom of the list.
@bunnysoup6858
@bunnysoup6858 9 ай бұрын
Me too!
@brandeluna6419
@brandeluna6419 9 ай бұрын
YEEEEESSSSSSS
@Fantomassexybeast
@Fantomassexybeast 9 ай бұрын
@@pongop2179 Wow.. Anno Domini is either 1st or 2nd to me.. LOL
@felixalonsodepablo7943
@felixalonsodepablo7943 9 ай бұрын
Anno Domini is the BEST album from Riverside
@stevemuzak8526
@stevemuzak8526 9 ай бұрын
Opeth's discography is so rich in music. I never get bored by this band because they refuse to stuck in one genre. Every album is different. From black metal, death metal, prog rock, jazz, folk etc. They did it all. They can be brutal as hell and mellow at the same time. Sometimes I can't believe that band exist. It's so one of a kind.
@Felipe..Vieira
@Felipe..Vieira 9 ай бұрын
they are my current go to band to study music theory, not to diss mike and the band, but in my ears mikael is a better songwritter than dream theater, just not as technical but more melodical
@stevemuzak8526
@stevemuzak8526 9 ай бұрын
I wouldn't dare to compare Opeth with Dream Theater. Different worlds. @@Felipe..Vieira
@MaglorMusic
@MaglorMusic 9 ай бұрын
They’re not stuck in one genre, but so many bands try to jump from style to style that sound mediocre in performance or composition, but not Opeth. Opeth could do a soul or electronic album, and they would nail it! 😆👌🏻🤘🏻
@AnotherDay-ce6th
@AnotherDay-ce6th 9 ай бұрын
@@Felipe..Vieira I don't think like that. Opeth lyrics are average at best. Dream Theater gave tons of epic writings.
@AnotherDay-ce6th
@AnotherDay-ce6th 9 ай бұрын
Being an Opeth lover, they have many sluggish and mediocre songs. @@MaglorMusic
@TheGrinder66
@TheGrinder66 9 ай бұрын
I’ll never forget being at Terminal 5 in NYC for the tour that Opeth played Blackwater Park straight through and I looked up and Mike Portnoy was in the balcony jamming along and singing every song. It was an incredible experience
@ZauTa
@ZauTa 9 ай бұрын
I honestly don't understand how people group my arms with orchid and morningrise. My arms is where mik's riff style is born, and while the mid era opeth sound isn't polished in my arms, it's definitely there.
@BlackFuckingCancer
@BlackFuckingCancer 9 ай бұрын
100% it's my personal favorite
@BlackSailPass_GuitarCovers
@BlackSailPass_GuitarCovers 9 ай бұрын
Agree, MAYH was a massive step backwards.
@Arrow2theACL
@Arrow2theACL 9 ай бұрын
Hello boss. What's happening? Yeah. I'm going to need go ahead and have an extra hour before I do any work this morning. Ok, Thanks.
@progreport
@progreport 9 ай бұрын
😂
@lucas_sg
@lucas_sg 9 ай бұрын
Literally me rn
@lopolik
@lopolik 9 ай бұрын
Morningrise and Orchid are S tier for me, when I was only into prog, I didn't like them, but now it's actually one of my favorites, Morningrise might be actually my favorite.
@soakedbearrd
@soakedbearrd 2 ай бұрын
Morningrise is so good.
@vallaindigital
@vallaindigital 9 ай бұрын
It was nice to have Mike as a special guest! I always love to hear him geek out on music stuff. He always has something interesting to tell. Nice vid guys, and thanks!
@progreport
@progreport 9 ай бұрын
Love having Mike on.
@filipdzero8739
@filipdzero8739 9 ай бұрын
I'm just happy Ghost Reveries ended up at S. To me it's just perfectly paced, the production is awesome and don't get me started on banger songs.
@Utubesuxmycock
@Utubesuxmycock 6 ай бұрын
Listen to it on vinyl It's spiritual
@MeyerzumMischen
@MeyerzumMischen 9 ай бұрын
In Cauda Venenum for me is the pinnacle of the recent era and is for me on level with my two other favorite Opeth albums Ghost Reveries and Watershed. What I particularly love is how the songs flow into each other and elevate each other in the process. I'm so glad that Axe got to record this one.
@databloom70
@databloom70 9 ай бұрын
Couldn't agree more. Of the newer 4, C.V. is top of the heap.
@shredneck360
@shredneck360 9 ай бұрын
Yes! ICV is a fuckin‘ Masterpiece!
@despot666
@despot666 9 ай бұрын
The Orchid to Blackwater Park albums are death metal masterpieces. Every single one of them. If they never made another album after Blackwater Park they’d still be one of the top 10 death metal bands of all time.
@user-du1yk7uk9v
@user-du1yk7uk9v 9 ай бұрын
Opeth are great when they sing when they growl they simply DO SUCKS. They are great when they don't play boring "metal"
@Aenigmakil
@Aenigmakil 9 ай бұрын
Progressive death metal* none of them were pure death metal. That's bands like Death, Morbid Angel, etc. Bands I LOVE too but Opeth were ALWAYS more than just a death metal band.
@user-po9sd8nq8v
@user-po9sd8nq8v 9 ай бұрын
There isn’t a single song on Orchid that remotely resembles death metal, it’s black metal
@despot666
@despot666 9 ай бұрын
@@user-po9sd8nq8v It's a really hard album to classify. The vocals are more akin to black metal but the music is unlike any black metal album from that era. There are no blast beats, no tremolo picking, the themes are definitely not black metal themes. If anything, it could be seen as a precursor to atmospheric metal. I guess if I had to put a tag on it, it would be atmospheric, blackened death metal.
@carlosnascimento9269
@carlosnascimento9269 9 ай бұрын
Always love hearing Mike talk about other bands and music in general.
@SD-cl5mj
@SD-cl5mj 9 ай бұрын
Love the PRS in the background
@filheim
@filheim 9 ай бұрын
Deliverance is the heaviest album of all time written in E standard
@Kookiebiskit
@Kookiebiskit 9 ай бұрын
I absolutely ADORE Sorceress, it's such a throwback to the concept records of the 1970s. I know it's not an "official" concept album, but the tonalities, instrumentation, structure and lyrical themes always make it read like a contemporary account of the middle ages to me. It feels really cohesive from beginning to end and leaves me satisfied every time I finish listening to it.
@Tharg
@Tharg 9 ай бұрын
Yeah I think Sorceress is the one for me.. so hard to pick. That, or Pale Communion..but then there's Deliverance & Damnation . Lol, there are no shit Opeth albums. Faith in others on Pale Communion is a masterpiece imo.
@mirkecWii
@mirkecWii 9 ай бұрын
To me its weird, I really like some songs but its also the only Opeth album where I dont have all the songs on my playlist. If they released a remix of it it would definitely make me appreciate it more
@soakedbearrd
@soakedbearrd 2 ай бұрын
Yeah it’s for me is only behind pale communion out of the 4 prog albums.
@Legionbass19
@Legionbass19 9 ай бұрын
Definitely agreeing with Mike on The Baying of the Hounds. It’s the song that got me into Opeth’s heavier side and really encapsulates a lot of their sound well.
@soakedbearrd
@soakedbearrd 2 ай бұрын
Such a great song, beneath the mire is also a banger!
@mikew.3128
@mikew.3128 9 ай бұрын
Ghost Revieries and My Arms Your Hearse are my two favorite Opeth albums. My Arms Your Hearse is an incredibly underrated album in their catalog. As is Still Life.
@dantredogborsa7048
@dantredogborsa7048 9 ай бұрын
My choices too 👍🏻
@kurtkish6970
@kurtkish6970 9 ай бұрын
Also- Opeth is my favorite band and I’m 66.
@valeskavergaravargas-fe4vt
@valeskavergaravargas-fe4vt 9 ай бұрын
The top 3 My arms your hearse, Still life and BWP
@soakedbearrd
@soakedbearrd 2 ай бұрын
Same
@atthecore4560
@atthecore4560 7 ай бұрын
StillLife is the gold standard for Opeth fans. Definitely my favorite album by them.
@shiscarp
@shiscarp 5 ай бұрын
Their 2nd through 6th albums are like a giant rock paper scissors game to me where each one can beat the others. If I have to pick it's BWP but just reading your comment made me think about how much of a masterpiece Still Life is.
@atthecore4560
@atthecore4560 5 ай бұрын
@@shiscarp Nice. In relevance of your take, I definitely pick Blackwater Park as my second pick of the litter. StillLife is just where they have my heart. It's where their sound was defined, even up until this very day.
@matheusmoreiradearaujo3267
@matheusmoreiradearaujo3267 9 ай бұрын
In Cauda Venenum to me is their greatest of the last four albums solely because of the swedish lyrics version. Mikael's genius songwriting somehow shines brighter in his own language, it gives each track a very discinct vibe to me and the ''definitive version'' of that album you should be listening to is the swedish one, IMO. Great tierlist overall!
@mirkecWii
@mirkecWii 9 ай бұрын
I've gotten so used to the english version that the Swedish one sounds too odd
@NE0MAS
@NE0MAS 9 ай бұрын
Allting tar slut (everything ends), last song, in the Swedish version his voice almost cracks which sounds awesome in context with the song. Don’t think he does that in English one
@soakedbearrd
@soakedbearrd 2 ай бұрын
I didn’t like it at first, took me 4 full listens till I really started to dig it. Funny all the songs they mention aren’t the ones that stood out for me on the album. All things will pass, universal truth, garroter, lovelorn crime and dignity are my absolute favorites.
@Mardell.
@Mardell. 9 ай бұрын
I see "Watershed" more than "Ghost Reveries" as the album that is the perfect mix between Opeth's two musical aspects.
@frankfrohmann1504
@frankfrohmann1504 8 ай бұрын
Without a doubt. I wonder why still so many can´t see it. Watershed is the peak!
@dv1860
@dv1860 8 ай бұрын
​@@frankfrohmann1504Watershed Supremacy 🏞🏞🏞🏞🏞🏞
@Utubesuxmycock
@Utubesuxmycock 6 ай бұрын
Both master pieces I see watershed as an extension of ghost Like ghost 2nd chapter
@Celatra
@Celatra 5 ай бұрын
it's not. it's second half is really weak. especially in the non deluxe edition without the cover songs. @@frankfrohmann1504
@bunnysoup6858
@bunnysoup6858 9 ай бұрын
I've been getting in to Opeth recently, so I love that this comes out now!
@antoniokofoed7139
@antoniokofoed7139 9 ай бұрын
The heritage tour was my first show that I saw from them . Devils orchard blew my mind.
@siriusfun
@siriusfun 9 ай бұрын
Same! Became a fan for life at that point.
@Zhgarr
@Zhgarr 9 ай бұрын
This was fun! Mike was a great guest. First time seeing the Wheel of Prog. I might just check out the DT one. I was just randomly thinking about what would happen with Devin Townsend's discography with his 30-odd completely different albums 😂
@aydendonley9660
@aydendonley9660 9 ай бұрын
I can’t even imagine how awesome it would’ve been with Mike “sliding in” on drums when Ax left🤯🤯
@Aenigmakil
@Aenigmakil 9 ай бұрын
That would've been awesome! I don't like how low he ranks the 90s stuff and he's definitely underrating Still Life and overrating Heritage but that aside, I still love him 😅
@aydendonley9660
@aydendonley9660 9 ай бұрын
@@Aenigmakil It’s tough when it’s opeth’s catalogue. Nothing bad in it to me. I personally love heritage and think it’s actually underrated. But I can definitely understand why someone wouldn’t dig it. Especially if the 90s stuff is your top jam, it would be so out there in comparison 🤣
@Aenigmakil
@Aenigmakil 9 ай бұрын
@@aydendonley9660 funnily enough, I do like Heritage (even if it's bottom tier for me) and I'm one of those guys who is big into Pink Floyd, King Crimson, Camel, etc. I love my 60s and 70s music! I just think Heritage would've been better as an Åkerfeldt solo album. It's better than Sorceress though. Worst album for me.
@aydendonley9660
@aydendonley9660 9 ай бұрын
@@Aenigmakil I can definitely see where heritage would have worked better as a solo album for him. It would have as they said helped with the expectation of what Opeth sounds like. I feel like the latest one and pale communion did a perfect job of combining a 70s sounding prog with an Opeth sound. And Sorceress, while I still love it is just flat out strange in comparison to the rest of the discography. And the muddy production was kind of an interesting choice too.
@psychofunksoldier02
@psychofunksoldier02 9 ай бұрын
Ghost Reveries and Watershed are my top 2 Opeth albums.
@edpearl299
@edpearl299 9 ай бұрын
Really enjoyed this you guys. I was introduced to Opeth back in 2014 or so and listened to Blackwater Park and even though I was never a fan of the growling, I really loved it. I never really went in to anything else in their catalog until about a year ago when I stumbled on Sorceress and loved it, being more of a prog guy/ 70's-80's metal guy. Then went to In Cauda and loved that, then Heritage and then back in to more of their metal stuff. Now, it's my favorite band, even more than DT (Sorry Mike).
@mr.recordman979
@mr.recordman979 9 ай бұрын
Did Mike just confirmed that Opeth is working on a new album? I'm in heaven right now ❤
@TheMrAdax
@TheMrAdax 9 ай бұрын
If it's anything like the last 4, it won't be worth listening to.
@mr.recordman979
@mr.recordman979 9 ай бұрын
I wouldn't be surprised if Mikael were to be inspired by Walt as he is a metal drummer and young blood overall. This might trigger him to do an old style Opeth record. For me, a mix of Watershed and Cauda would be a dream
@wesleybforti
@wesleybforti 9 ай бұрын
I'm actually surprised not many people know about it, Mikael said that earlier this year in their SA tour
@michaelkarlsson5966
@michaelkarlsson5966 9 ай бұрын
@@mr.recordman979 hopefully they won't go back to metal.
@dewedytwo3246
@dewedytwo3246 Ай бұрын
@@TheMrAdaxshut your gob
@RickNBacker
@RickNBacker 9 ай бұрын
Great show, subbed! Can't wait to go back thru previous vids.
@progreport
@progreport 9 ай бұрын
Thanks!!
@SerpentbreeD
@SerpentbreeD 9 ай бұрын
Deliverance is my top album in their entire discography. The variation, the obliterating heaviness, then the dark, mellow breaks in between, it's all just so, so good. Ghost Reveries would come in second and Blackwater Park third. It is my favourite Opeth era and the one I keep returning to on an almost daily basis.
@Heliosphan33
@Heliosphan33 9 ай бұрын
Their heaviest and darkest album. It’s definitely at the top for me too.
@shiscarp
@shiscarp 5 ай бұрын
@@Heliosphan33 True, and then they throw in on top of all the heaviness the beautiful A Fair Judgement with possibly my favorite guitar solo of all time. GREAT album. Their last perfect album.
@DVBandDad8
@DVBandDad8 9 ай бұрын
More Portnoy is ALWAYS a value-add. Thanks Mike!
@progreport
@progreport 9 ай бұрын
We agree 👍🏻
@Jablan11
@Jablan11 9 ай бұрын
Bleak being inspired by home makes it even better, it was my favorite opeth song anyway and it just got more awesome.
@moonlightreveries1459
@moonlightreveries1459 9 ай бұрын
What you mean inspired by home?
@Jablan11
@Jablan11 9 ай бұрын
@@moonlightreveries1459 Mike Portnoy mentions it in the video, the main riff of bleak is inspired by the dream theater song home
@moonlightreveries1459
@moonlightreveries1459 9 ай бұрын
@@Jablan11 ohhhhhh ok thanks 🙏 I didn’t watch it in full yet
@matthewlangendoen4199
@matthewlangendoen4199 8 ай бұрын
The wilde flowers from Sorceress has one of the best guitar solos ever.
@deanwolfechannel
@deanwolfechannel 9 ай бұрын
Nice video guys. I've got so many prog discographies to get through!
@duesexistat5016
@duesexistat5016 9 ай бұрын
Still life is perfection. Watershed, My arms your hearse are up there as well. All S! The song writing in MAYH is so good that it shines despite the bad production quality.
@bernardobarrientos3642
@bernardobarrientos3642 9 ай бұрын
This is some of the best entertainment/TV I’ve seen in quite a while. Thank you!
@progreport
@progreport 9 ай бұрын
Wow thanks!
@HawksNHabsPC
@HawksNHabsPC 9 ай бұрын
Agree on all points about Harlequin Forest! My fav Opeth song and on the best album!
@Cappii
@Cappii 9 ай бұрын
100% agree. My favorite song and album aswell 💪
@alexparadise91
@alexparadise91 9 ай бұрын
I just love seeing Mike nerd out over things he’s passionate about. Whether it’s with music, or film, or tv shows, I never get tired seeing how enthusiasm he is when he experiences other forms of art and music.
@JAGValiant
@JAGValiant 9 ай бұрын
I'm so glad to see high-profile love for Baying of the Hounds. It's the song that sent me down the rabbit hole and I feel like it's wildly underrated.
@justinmiller9169
@justinmiller9169 8 ай бұрын
I was surprised that they put Morningrise in D tier. It is my favorite by far! I can still listen to the album. It's like reading a novel in that it progresses from one part to the next, not like a verse chorus kind of thing. Excellent production, melodies, and acoustic parts.
@shiscarp
@shiscarp 5 ай бұрын
I think they need to re-visit the album and see how wrong they were! :)
@gregd.4865
@gregd.4865 5 ай бұрын
Before Blackwater Park came out, us older Opeth fans always considered Morningrise the best. Stopped following them after 2001.
@BibhasChatterjee
@BibhasChatterjee 8 ай бұрын
This is so nerdy and seeing Mike nerding out as well…. I’m in tears and stitches 🙂🥲🙃
@EsDeib
@EsDeib 9 ай бұрын
Folklore has to be the most underrated song ever by anyone. I’m glad it got mentioned, because no one ever seems to notice it at all. It’s a perfect song. Everyone give it another chance. Loved this pod.
@waynechesser2000
@waynechesser2000 9 ай бұрын
Agree here. I especially love the second half of the song. It sounds like the soundtrack to a long lost western movie, just has that feel to it.
@EsDeib
@EsDeib 9 ай бұрын
@@waynechesser2000 Just epic, overwhelming, and full of feel. It’s AWESOME.
@selim6033
@selim6033 9 ай бұрын
Mike is soooo wrong about Pale Comunion. That album is a complete masterpiece. So Tier S for sure.
@soakedbearrd
@soakedbearrd 2 ай бұрын
Eternal rains, moon above, and faith alone are top songs for me. My favorite overall non growl Opeth album.
@selim6033
@selim6033 2 ай бұрын
@@soakedbearrd Facts
@douglaspowell5971
@douglaspowell5971 9 ай бұрын
Great wheel, guys! First time where we pretty much match up! Thanks for the great content.
@progreport
@progreport 9 ай бұрын
Thanks!!
@kg4rys
@kg4rys 9 ай бұрын
Outstanding Wheel of Prog! Pink Floyd would be another great choice, along with Spock’s Beard, Flower Kings and of course Iron Maiden.
@progreport
@progreport 9 ай бұрын
Thanks so much!
@kainoa_written
@kainoa_written 9 ай бұрын
I loved when Heritage first dropped as a Return to Forever as well as Opeth fanatic prior to the release. Solidly decided on a tattoo after that
@feloniousmonk5261
@feloniousmonk5261 9 ай бұрын
I had the privilege of seeing Dream Theater and Opeth play on the same night in Manchester, 2009. What a show that was! Very cool episode guys!
@symol30872
@symol30872 8 ай бұрын
This was great to watch. As a long time Opeth fan, there has always been such wide variety of opinions on their albums which just really shows how amazing they are and can reach people in different ways. I mostly agreed with this list. Great to see Mike on the show too.
@Aj66602
@Aj66602 9 ай бұрын
I’m really happy with Still Life being so high. For me it is my absolute #1.
@Islandstone89
@Islandstone89 Ай бұрын
8:10 Pale Communion 11:20 Heritage 15:20 Still Life 18:33 Ghost Reveries 23:50 Morningrise 27:30 Blackwater Park 31:59 Deliverance 36:07 In Cauda Venenum 38:47 My Arms, Your Hearse 40:59 Damnation 46:05 Watershed 50:21 Sorceress 54:44 Orchid
@Proglove85
@Proglove85 9 ай бұрын
Opeth's discography is such a tricky one to rank, because - as remarked in the video - all albums are just so good. They are one of the few bands, who (in my opinion) have not released one single bad or even meh album. So it quickly becomes subjective to the ear of the beholder. My ranking would probably be something like: S: Blackwater Park; My Arms, Your Hearse; Still Life A: Ghost Reveries; Pale Communion; Deliverance B: Damnation; Sorceress; Morningrise C: Watershed; In Cauda Venenum D: Orchid; Heritage MAYH is probably my favourite of theirs, if only because it was the first one I ever listened to. There are som great tracks on there: Karma, Demon Of The Fall, April Ethereal, The Amen Corner and obviously When, which is like af first taste of what Opeth was to morph into in the 00's. Still Life has my favourite track of theirs though - I absolutely adore Godhead's Lament.
@iceman992992
@iceman992992 9 ай бұрын
Swap In Cauda and Sorceress, and to me you’re dead on
@soakedbearrd
@soakedbearrd 2 ай бұрын
Very solid list, I agree on most, and very close to my tier list.
@rolfjamne8922
@rolfjamne8922 8 ай бұрын
Great stuff. Stay in Scandinavia. Ranking the Leprous albums would be cool.🤘
@ars_moriendi.official
@ars_moriendi.official 9 ай бұрын
I always enjoyed Heritage and is one of my favorites. I may be alone on this one, but that's okay. I Feel the Dark, Nepenthe, and Famine, are my 3 favorite songs from heritage
@mirekc8619
@mirekc8619 8 ай бұрын
Out of the last four new direction Opeth records, Heritage is my favorite. Great stuff!
@codexaegis1977
@codexaegis1977 8 ай бұрын
Agreed man, I love that album. One of the best
@ars_moriendi.official
@ars_moriendi.official 8 ай бұрын
@codexaegis1977 sure is. Glad to finally hear someone else thinks so too.
@ars_moriendi.official
@ars_moriendi.official 8 ай бұрын
@codexaegis1977 I always raise the question to the Heritage and last 3 album haters.... who admittedly love damnation so much.. if the songs on Heritage, or any of the last 4 albums were on damnation and your favorite damnation songs were on any of the last 4 albums. Would you still love damnation? And would you still hate Heritage or the last 4 albums?. For example Instead of to Rid the disease or Closure on damnation it was Eternal Rains or Devil's Orchard?. I feel like people just hate to hate.. those are great songs who just got the misfortune of being on albums that are popular to hate on. it's ridiculous.
@jazzyraoul
@jazzyraoul 9 ай бұрын
Another awesome episode. Keep those Wheels of Prog coming! I would love to see one on Spock's Beard!
@DarcMurkee
@DarcMurkee 9 ай бұрын
First time watching this series, great concept!
@progreport
@progreport 9 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@sloggo
@sloggo 9 ай бұрын
I would never rank any of their album under S-tier
@stephenjoyce7061
@stephenjoyce7061 9 ай бұрын
Awesome episode! My list: S: Still Life, Blackwater Park, Deliverance A: Damnation, Ghost Reveries, In Cauda Venenum B: Sorceress, My Arms Your Hearse, Watershed C: Heritage, Pale Communion D: Orchid, Morningrise
@mirekc8619
@mirekc8619 8 ай бұрын
Your picks are VERY close to mine! 🤘
@soakedbearrd
@soakedbearrd 2 ай бұрын
Interesting list. Somewhat different from mine, but I can understand it for sure. A lot of these albums are so close together it’s hard making a definitive tier list lol. Literally not a bad album.
@waynechesser2000
@waynechesser2000 9 ай бұрын
Damnation has what may just be my all-time favorite drum part. At 1:40, with the start of the second verse of Death Whispered A Lullaby, the interplay between the bass and snare drums and the hi-hat is just
@lilith8610
@lilith8610 3 ай бұрын
The thing is that im a european fan of Opeth and I love prog just as much as black and death metal, I love every album of them for a different reason and i actually love that I can listen to my favourite band for hours and not feel like im listening to the same thing over and over again
@carlosclerigadrums
@carlosclerigadrums 9 ай бұрын
Incredible and solid discography, with at least 6 Masterpieces. (Blackwater Park, Ghost Reveries, Deliverance,Damnation,Watershed Still Life). Nice video, so fun to see!
@dewedytwo3246
@dewedytwo3246 Ай бұрын
That list is every single song in their middle era 🤣
@VindictiveRaider
@VindictiveRaider 9 ай бұрын
A long story short I was one of the promoters that did Opeth in Alberta Canada. It was one of their first shows on the tour where Lopez did not show up. They could not play the show without their drummer. Gene hoglan was playing with one of the bands that were opening for Opeth when I suggested that Gene and Michael should play together to continue the tour. They both agreed but unfortunately Gene was not ready to play Edmonton but did play Vancouver with them and continued on the tour. 🙃🤘
@driftless7134
@driftless7134 9 ай бұрын
Hoglan is incredible! Very cool of him to fill in and help out.
@sansubr
@sansubr 9 ай бұрын
I have only heard Blackwater Park and Pale Communion. I learnt a lot about Opeth's evolution and I have been listening to Ghost Reveries after this episode. Thank you :)
@thisguy2755
@thisguy2755 8 ай бұрын
Great vids, love the channel! Maybe do an Ayreon album tier sometime?
@ArghBeast
@ArghBeast 9 ай бұрын
Baying of the hounds is to me the best music ever in metal there is. It's there above The Cocoon of Richard Henshal. The leveling of every type of stile here is something so beautifully mixed and there's a beginning middle and ending that makes my body hair go beserk everytime I listen to that break near the end with the acoustics. It's near a freaking orgasm if I'm allowed to say so. It's my go-to album everytime I want something to level me up.
@jeanp5680
@jeanp5680 9 ай бұрын
They opened with that song in Montreal '05... Great song !!!!
@David_Miller522
@David_Miller522 6 ай бұрын
So interesting to hear everyone's options and view points. Music being very personal, it was a very cool video. Every album is hard to place in a order.
@joelandrews2046
@joelandrews2046 9 ай бұрын
3 Needs a lot more attention, they are beyond good!
@corvinnicolae8172
@corvinnicolae8172 8 ай бұрын
Loved Heritage when it came out. For me, it was frustrating that people compared it with previous albums and not appreciated for what it was. It was still Opeth, but in a different approach. I think this change was natural for them as musicians. From this last era, though, I think In Cauda Venenum is their best. Their absolute best, tier S, would be Blackwater Park, Ghost Reveries, Damnation and In Cauda Venenum.Tier A, Still Life, Watershed, Deliverance, My Arms, Your Hearse, Heritage and Pale Communion. Tier B Sorceress, Morningrise and, finally Tier C, Orchid.
@huntthekirbster
@huntthekirbster 8 ай бұрын
Pale communion is my favorite prog era album, maybe even one of my favorites overall
@soakedbearrd
@soakedbearrd 2 ай бұрын
Same. I like them all but heritage is more of a vibe album for me, very experimental and artsy, I dig it but it’s still my least favorite out of the 4. PC for me is easily their best non growl album (yes I have it higher than damnation).
@WoPrulez
@WoPrulez 9 ай бұрын
Well when the wheel landed on my literal favorite album of all time and you guys put it in B it did take a lot of the initial excitement out for me..
@billyboostah6308
@billyboostah6308 9 ай бұрын
Except for a switch between Heritage and Morningrise (and maybe a little bit within the tiers), this is how I would rank them as well! Very good video:)
@SentientNr6
@SentientNr6 9 ай бұрын
This was really fun and interesting to watch. Opeth has soooo many good albums, they just have a different feel. In Cauda Venenum took me a while to like but after a lot of listens to me it's one of their best albums.
@nintendad1166
@nintendad1166 3 ай бұрын
Seeing their first 3 albums in B-D tier is so on-brand for prog nerds.
@thetelepath8245
@thetelepath8245 9 ай бұрын
Very well done guys and it was amazing to hear MP´s opinion on this! I think (almost) every Opeth fan can agree with this list, but I can´t deny I´m very happy that my favorite Still Life got into S tier :-D How awesome it would be to have MP as the new Opeth drummer...
@henrywalton5967
@henrywalton5967 9 ай бұрын
3:40 Let's not forget Focus by Cynic released 1993, very proggy and it just hit it's 30th anniversery a few days ago!
@ryanorlando1122
@ryanorlando1122 7 ай бұрын
Holy shit I'm old. That song holds up though, it was ahead of its time.
@TheSentry777
@TheSentry777 9 ай бұрын
Seeing Morningrise and Orchid at the bottom while Ghost Reveries sits at the top burns a hole in my soul.
@Kurkjianomega
@Kurkjianomega 9 ай бұрын
I agree.
@Chet_Philodenge
@Chet_Philodenge 9 ай бұрын
I don't have a strong opinion about ghost, but yeah the other two belong towards the top.
@leonmurray7488
@leonmurray7488 9 ай бұрын
Orchid starts strong but falls off hard. I'd put Morningrise in A. I agree that Ghost Reveries is bottom tier.
@Chet_Philodenge
@Chet_Philodenge 9 ай бұрын
@@leonmurray7488 twilight is my robe is one of their best songs, and apostle in triumph is excellent
@leonmurray7488
@leonmurray7488 9 ай бұрын
@@Chet_Philodenge I just listened to them both and you are correct. Both great tracks, not sure why I dismissed them previously.
@TheChrisaiston
@TheChrisaiston 9 ай бұрын
We need a BTBAM episode for sure. Colors 2 is one of the greatest records i have ever heard. Truly brilliant band. And i would love to hear Mike portnoys opinion on their records.
@SonicNerveinduction
@SonicNerveinduction 9 ай бұрын
Agreed. Btbam is in my top 3 (along with Opeth). I would say they definitely have enough albums to rank.
@threestringsomg
@threestringsomg 9 ай бұрын
Love that the top 3 levels could all be S tier for other fans of Opeth. Like you say guys, such a massively strong (imo one of the strongest all time) discographies...of any band out there. Sorceress...my guilty Opeth pleasure of an album. Persephone is such a great opener. Im trying to learn it by ear on guitar. Great video👍
@catchinguptoeveryone
@catchinguptoeveryone 9 ай бұрын
I dismissed Watershed when it was released after hearing The Lotus Eater and thinking it was going to be a Ghost Reveries clone. After listening to this episode I actually listened to Watershed and it really is a bridge between Ghost Reveries and Heritage in the best way possible. Such a great album. A tier for sure.
@siriusfun
@siriusfun 9 ай бұрын
That was great, guys! I would've given 'Heritage' a bit more love as it was a huge change and paradigm shift that they pulled off convincingly with fresh, yet authentically retro/nostalgic tonal characteristics. As for Mike mentioning 70s vs 80s Beatles, I can only assume he meant McCartney. Cheers!
@progreport
@progreport 9 ай бұрын
Yes correct
@VampireHeart518
@VampireHeart518 9 ай бұрын
Heritage has the most beautiful material, but the composition is all over the place, rather disembodied... I think that's why it's not that convincing, because as beautiful and interesting the small bits may be, the songs don't coagulate properly imo (also, the 'sound engineering' aspect makes it a bit impossible to listen to, for me. As much as I love nuances, there's too big of a chasm between LOUD and *quiet*, I keep having to mess with the volume button :)) ) I get your point and kudos to them, yeah I think you nailed it with ''fresh, yet authentic' - they just love this music so sincerely much that it translates :)
@eyvahehyeh8927
@eyvahehyeh8927 9 ай бұрын
Been looking for an excuse to make one of these, so now I'm making one, and making one. :) Your format (ordered within tiers as well): S Damnation (2003) Ghost Reveries (2005) Blackwater Park (2001) A Pale Communion (2013) Deliverance (2003) Heritage (2011) B Still Life (1999) My Arms, Your Hearse (1998) Watershed (2008) C Morningrise (1996) D In Cauda Venenum Orchid (1995) Sorceress (2006) My usual format (ordered within tiers as well): S+ Damnation (2003) S Ghost Reveries (2005) Blackwater Park (2001) A+ Pale Communion (2013) A Deliverance (2003) Heritage (2011) Still Life (1999) B+ My Arms, Your Hearse (1998) Watershed (2008) B Morningrise (1996) B- In Cauda Venenum Orchid (1995) Sorceress (2006)
@user-yn1sf9mq3z
@user-yn1sf9mq3z 9 ай бұрын
the prog nation tour in 2008 was the first opeth show i went to (dream theater skipped pittsburgh, so opeth headlined). i can confirm the pit went absolutely nuts when they played baying of the hounds.
@slawaxas
@slawaxas 9 ай бұрын
Morningrise at D hurt, at least A Tier for me. if not S
@BlackSailPass_GuitarCovers
@BlackSailPass_GuitarCovers 9 ай бұрын
Yeah, the guy's clueless.
@LowAMVUpLowDurrrr
@LowAMVUpLowDurrrr 4 ай бұрын
Opening to In mist she was standing sounds like early fates warning. Like awaken the guardian era. Opeth & Dream Theater will always have a special place in my heart.
@ModernDayWarrior2112
@ModernDayWarrior2112 9 ай бұрын
I wanted to be on the Rush wheel 😢 Great episode as usual ❤
@Taunic
@Taunic 9 ай бұрын
I hard disagree on Heritage. Such a haunting atmosphere and very cool riffs and transitions. I love all the songs on that album, even the most experimental song on the album Famine. Feels like you are traveling into another strange dimension. It's an S tier from me, and I didn't love it the first time I heard it.
@512momo512
@512momo512 9 ай бұрын
Perfect list for me if you move Morningrise from D to S
@christopherdaugherty9344
@christopherdaugherty9344 Ай бұрын
Same Mike! "The Baying of the Hounds" is my all time banger!!!
@legolator
@legolator 9 ай бұрын
Imagen Portnoy being in on a Opeth record and what we get is like a trip back to the mid 2000's. I love all the albums, but given Portnoy's style and all that I think it would be so fitting to have like a Ghost Reveries / Watershed style album (no growl thats fine if Åkerfeldt doesn't want to, I'm not a growl-nostalgia-opeth-listener) with Portnoy on the drums. Man... Well this was a great video, been a fan of DT, LTE, Opeth since forever man. Always interesting to hear what Portnoy's been up to and thinking about. :)
@Nickball97
@Nickball97 9 ай бұрын
1. Ghost Reveries 2. BWP 3. Still Life 4. MAYH 5. Deliverance 6. Watershed 7. Damnation 8. Pale Communion 9. In Cauda Venenum 10. Morningrise 11. Heritage 12. Sorceress 13. Orchid
@TheProgCorner
@TheProgCorner 9 ай бұрын
Fantastic!!!
@arnaudb.7669
@arnaudb.7669 9 ай бұрын
Fantastic! Thanks.
@mirekc8619
@mirekc8619 8 ай бұрын
Blackwater Park is untouchable and my first time seeing Opeth live in 2001. Love seeing how Still Life seems to be a fan favorite as well- I mean the song "The Moor" is absolutely EPIC. Add Deliverance and you've got the three BEST Opeth records. Love Damnation obviously- great tour when they played the whole record with Porcupine Tree opening for them. Next is Ghost Reveries and Watershed. Then the four "new" sound albums- I actually like Heritage the most. Orchid, Morningrise and My Arms all have great moments but the songwriting is nowhere near Still Life and beyond. Lots of cool riffs but they just don't flow together so seamlessly and naturally. Mikael's songwriting just matured after the 1st three albums, that is obvious to me and just my opinion. Always enjoy Mike Portnoy's comments and enthusiasm! Great podcast! 🤘
@Aguywithsticks
@Aguywithsticks 9 ай бұрын
Mike said his favorite song. Instantly ran over to listen to it again as I use to religiously listen to this album. Wouldn't you know it, :)
@Aj66602
@Aj66602 9 ай бұрын
Devin Townsend wheel would be crazy, plenty of debate I think because he’s all over the place.
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