Project Diva controller with NO microswitches??? | Diva Pro review

[@jennassexdungeon]

can't believe hatsune miku invented controllers

[@tokaku]

I can't believe she's the president of the world! All hers my queen

[@meap_me]

She invented everything in existence cus the world is hers.. * world is mine plays in the background *

[@nullbyt]

How else would you play that minecraft game she made?

[@selo420]

@@tokaku i cant believe he conquered the universe!

[@josh67fps]

@@tokaku SEKAIIIIIIIII

[@ilhanovic2272]

funfact: 3 in japanese is named "mi" 9 is named "ku" so "39" means miku thats also why the controller costs 393,93$ meaning "mikumikumi"

[@LuisCruzLC]

i believe 3 in japanese is san

[@mweeee]

@@LuisCruzLC it can be both

[@LuisCruzLC]

@@mweeee yeah I checked it thankyu and miku Xd

[@ilhanovic2272]

@@LuisCruzLC can mean both. in japanese we have: Kanji, Hiragana and Katakana. Katakana is mostly used for foreign words, Kanji is used in talking and Hiragana is mostly used by little childs in the kindergarten or elementary school. (its really cringy for adults and people over 14 years when someone that is their same age writes and talks in hiragana)

[@maiyotheboat]

it can be sankyuu or miku

[@jagiak]

I own this controller actually and I absolutely love it. Though I've noticed that the touch bar scratches VERY easily, granted it's only cosmetic damage but don't count on the controller looking pretty for too long unless you store it immaculately. Also listening through a video REALLY doesn't do those buttons the service of just how ear piercing they are. If you buy this controller your entire house will hear it and if you live in an apartment with thin walls your neighbors will too 100%. Still, I love how responsive the controller is, I occasionally play PD at my local Round1 and the responsiveness is truly a night and day difference.

[@borroborroborro5711]

What are you doing to your controller? I just keep the controller up against the wall next to my desk and I've knocked it over several times and Ive had my cats jump off it and its never scratched

[@imikirei]

your reviews are always great

[@tokaku]

thank you! oh I love your profile picture

[@clloudyy]

I dont play anything other than osu but i still watch these because of how interesting and informative they are lol

[@Sativa989]

But osu can't emulate the arcade experience :c

[@Yo1sak1]

Built a custom cabinet using this controller and absolutely love it. I think the only thing I dislike about it is how deep the buttons are compared to the future tone cabinets. You get used to it but whenever I go back to the arcade I can definitely feel the difference. But overall I still like it better than the original

[@DieselJT]

This looks like a pretty solid Project Diva Controller! If I didn't already own the Hori Arcade controller for the Switch and the Hori Mini Controller for PS4 I would pick this one up!

[@doubledeadskull]

it's a good day when a tokaku video drops

[@talousse]

I mainly play diva so I was excited to see a new tokaku video about it! but yeah it's just as fun to play on a ps4 controller as in the arcade that's one of the reasons why I like it

[@realmuchdoge]

I've bought the controller after hisokee's video on it, it's a really good controller. I also own a real PDAFT cabinet and they come very close to the real deal button wise but I prefer the buttons on the Diva Pro as they are not as stiff as on the arcade which makes it easier to play fast. Also the slider feels a lot nicer than on the arcade if you are playing without gloves, on the cabinet it's tad more grippy because of the glossy finish. The only gripe I had so far with the Diva Pro was the registration of the touch slider inputs for double notes, as it sometimes doesn't register inputs well if you have double sliders going the same direction or very few times if they are going the opposite direction. This might be a firmware issue though and I have not yet updated mine, so original firmware is still on there I suppose. I will follow up with a comparison to the Mega Mix Controller once it hopefully arrives today (should have been here 3 days ago, but FedEx sucks) seeing as those are modeled after the original cabinet controller. Also if anyone wants to start playing on PC and doesn't want to use a gamepad, get a used F, F2nd or X mini controller from japan, you'll most likely get them for 60-80$ incl. the currently expensive shipping (depending on where you live, germany is hella expensive to ship to from japan because only air transit is available) and they are amazing to play on, especially fast songs.

[@ZhouSensor_ZXZ]

HI, here is zhousensor There is a protection algorithm for input in the same direction, and the distance between two triggers must be more than 2 touch blocks to be correctly triggered. If this condition is met but does not respond normally, it may be a bug. Also please take a video and send it to the contact of yubiparts, or send it to me in the DC group. Thank you.

[@realmuchdoge]

@@ZhouSensor_ZXZ Hi, thanks for the response! I tested everything again today and I might have misremembered the issue, I wasn't able to play double sliders at all. I took some time to check the mappings and noticed that the inputs for the potential second slider is mapped on the touch buttons R1+2 and L1+2. I don't know how I missed this in the manual but it works flawlessly now.

[@realmuchdoge]

Update: I have finally received the Mega39s controller and it's great, but I still prefer the Diva Pro as the buttons are springier and therefore faster to play. Also seeing as I've fixed my previous problems with it, I don't think there is any reason to go with a PS4 or Switch if you can't buy them for less than the Diva Pro as the only thing better on the Hori ones is the Touch Slider but only by a little. So in conclusion, If you want a cheap controller that you can play extremely fast, get a Hori Mini Controller, if you want the closest possible experience to the arcade, get a PS4 or Switch Hori Controller and if you care about customizability (button sensitivity and pretty lights) and speed in a controller that keeps the arcade format with a relatively small footprint , get the Diva Pro. Also, this is all subjective, so take this with a grain of salt. And also, please never order through FedEx, that was a nightmare.

[@NekoOkto]

That is one of the coolest menu systems I've ever seen on a controller. Props to ZhouSensor for going the extra mile on that one, lol

[@theArchive1O]

Haven’t seen ur content for a year. Glad to stumble back!

[@Xealous]

Since they're sensing depth, they can implement the dynamic depth for hitting so you can do the same thing that the Wooting60HE does :eyes: Freelo for jacks!

[@IngwiePhoenix_nb]

I didn't know people made controllers like that. Its pretty beautiful. Wonder if there is like a way to mount this into a little cabinet? Would be pretty neat =)

[@EchoRoblox]

9:20 responding to this question since i am in a maimai community no, the optical sensors don’t break, but it’s the plastic buttons and hinges that break a lot.

[@dadangsudadang5963]

This is true, especially since there's quite a lot strong mashers in the arcades lol. Though harder difficulties might lead to harder presses especially on charts outside your comfy zones.

[@svizidal]

this is a great video format! continue tokaku because your a very cool youtuber.

[@bibiphilippe4537]

I have this controller actually in miku color, it works well but three things: - the level of finish of the controller is not good for 400 $ (paint chip/my bottom plate of the controller was not correctly leveled when manufacturing) - not firmware update for PPD, project heartbeat (slider hori mod is not a priority for yubiparts) - yubiparts announces restock for Rin/Len and luka colors and a few months later it's not.

[@CommonNeon]

I'm finally getting around to buying this arcade controller. I own PD on Nintendo Switch, PS5, and PC. So, I could definitely find myself using it a lot and finding it enjoyable since I can use it on many different platforms. I am going to buy the white version, I'll see how good it works once it arrives. It's a bit pricey, but worth it since my local arcade took the Project Diva arcade cabinet out of the arcade rooms. I don't mind if it's loud, as long as it works fine.

[@JoeKoh27]

For maimai, its usually the hinge of the button that breaks, causing the button to be stuck in and unable to pop back up by itself. The hinge will break with overtime use, and will break even faster if players are playing with excessive force. So when the "button" breaks the arcade operators just replace the button cap with a new one, along with the hinge as well (Thats based on my observation and understanding, if anyone actually services maimai cabs, feel free to correct me if im wrong) EDIT: The button hinge is (very hard) plastic so yes they break

[@sakiaung]

I may sound like an idiot but when did she mention maimai in the video?

[@JoeKoh27]

@@sakiaung 9:20 top left corner

[@ComfyCherry]

I picked up megamix+ during a recent steam sale and after trying the controller I normally use on PC, a PS5 controller, and eventually realising that keyboard was just gonna work best of what I had available I started to really want to try with an arcade con and decided to get this one, it arrived today and after fiddling around with the settings (putting the buttons to the highest sensitivity and using the ps4 port instead of the switch/PC one), dampening the buttons, and updating the firmware I'm loving it

[@schlawyn3r418]

I have not been playing Project Diva for very long (rythm games in general) and when you showed how you can map the d-pad to different button imputs my mind was blown😵‍💫😵‍💫 That feels like cheating lol Also great review btw.!!

[@angelicoreXX]

one thing you can do to dampen the sound of the controller is to add some sort of padding or polyfil in the controller to dampen the sound .. i did that with my dao popn controller

[@explosionspin3422]

Me: has never played this game Also me: watched the entire video

[@Galafador]

the Arcade version of Project Diva Future Tone also uses optical switches, it looks like the usual omron switches but the activation method is optical. its part code is OBSA-LHSXF-LN. this is a very expensive switch, somewhere around 45 dollars per switch, but it has the advantage of being easily replaceable when the switch eventually do break. do they sell replacements for those proprietary switches? and is it easy to replace? also for the off-topic point on 9:20 yes, maimai uses optical sensor, underneath its buttons is a simple metal sheet that acts both as a spring and as a light blocker for the sensor. through around 6 years of me playing maimai, the sensor itself never break, but the plastic buttons will eventually crack and/or the metal sheet underneath the buttons will get stuck on the buttons. dance rush pads uses an array of laser sensors, and they're very sensitive. even the smallest of debris in the pad area will mess up the sensors. I haven't played much dance rush to know about the details though. anyway thanks for the review~!

[@Michirin9801]

Diva used to be like, my main rhythm game, it's not anymore though, but I feel like I might prefer an arcade controller for Future Tone, cuz it just feels so much more awkward to play on a gamepad than the older games...

[@oof4890]

Got this for Christmas, and understood alot!! Had a confusing time trying to set up at first >_

[@Hallimaschable]

How is this more expensive than a damn Pop'n controller, goddamn.

[@rk100_official]

Where can I buy this today? It says its out of stock on the website. If this is no longer for sale where can I get something like it?

[@doritosama8854]

I love the noise comparison with the neighbor

[@Yuberz]

It's so interesting to think about how much more expensive project diva controllers are than SDVX controllers lol

[@thegambler9994]

Unfortunately, it turns out that NovelKeys' Big Switch is even louder than this - I have personally witnessed those buttons drown out a Pump cabinet, and in the middle of a tournament no less.

[@nightlust]

Well, they've stopped making stuff so I guess I can just watch that video and gush over that controller

[@chngjr]

Great video as alws cheers!

[@nightrack.]

will there ever be a chuni controller review

[@gack2]

it’s a good day when tokaku posts a video 😎

[@gack2]

LMAO I GOT A BOT COMMENT HAHAHAHAHAH

[@bing2869]

Finally a Project DIVA video

[@bbfmohit07]

Yeaaaah ❣️

[@hammiarts]

in the market for a dedicated rhythm game controller like this bc playing diva with joycons gave me tenosynovitis lmao. this has made project sekai a better option for me for the time being, but i miss my modded charts so much :,(

[@notsmith6158]

I found the waiting a second or so on the front buttons to be a deal breaker for me. The usually quick task of menuing when practicing kinda grinds to a halt every time you need to do something. Actually ended up going back to the chonker Hori official controller even though its buttons aren't as nice, the overall experience is better. Plus I really miss using the touch bar for navigation that you get with the official controller.

[@TrickyJebus]

Hey Tokaku, I was wondering if you have checked out Starri? Its a mobile rhythm game released just last month and its a solid beat saber like clone that uses your camera. Ive been having fun streaming the game this past week. It has two modes. Slash - very beat saber like. Slash arrows, avoid walls etc... Catch - plays like osu but your hands are the cursor and has color switch mechanics too

[@serana3243]

Is that game free?

[@TrickyJebus]

@@serana3243 yeah its free!

[@natologic]

Actually, sensitivity adjustment is becoming commonplace for ITG these days but that's the only (niche) rhythm game I can think of.

[@kingcherryblossom2059]

Woah, that’s pretty neat

[@tomomafuy]

yet another W for miku! she’s my favorite president of the world

[@kmidst_vg2996]

Hi tokaku. Have you done a review of the djdao ezmax controller yet?

[@Un1corns]

That’s so cool, I gotta get it (I didn’t understand anything😭)

[@JessicaFEREM]

It really makes me wonder why you couldn't get these buttons with some epoxy filling the buttons to make them solid. it's something they could make.

[@Male_Parent]

Wooting project diva controller. Joking, but it's pretty cool they have analogue buttons. 🙃

[@lacadame124]

HI,are u always going in the arcad to play sdvx ?? if yes can u do a another vlog bc its been a long time u dont do vlog so plz if u read that answer me . And do u play maimai ? ps:i love that u make

[@zerosick]

the adjustable sensor for keys is gonna become a thing now

[@angelicoreXX]

yubiparts is just the distributor as the maker zhousensor is actually based in china It is also the same case with yuancon but they are both the maker and distributor for taiko force level 5

[@eduidmirai]

i didnt knew that tokaku used light mode on discord too lol, i really prefer the light mode on discord idk its more beautiful to me.

[@xerothehero1704]

Oh that’s really neat I want one! *Clicks link* That’s can stay right where it’s at

[@bear1271]

me watching tokaku’s videos on mutli hundred dollar controllers for rhythm games i don’t play

[@ccost]

i am so confused by the intro, its in the US so less shipping fees but its imported from asia so note there will be high shipping fees????

[@tokaku]

if you buy arcade parts, they're shipped from the US. If you buy controllers, they're shipped from Asia.

[@ccost]

@@tokaku o

[@qiyubi]

wait wait wait, you can adjust the sensitivity on the taiko cabinets ??? HOW ? I'll need this for my local arcade lmao

[@tokaku]

ask your arcade operator to access the service menu. Drum sensitivity is an operator setting. It's to help keep a longer drum lifespan (when it starts double triggering, lower the sensitivity)

[@qiyubi]

​@@tokaku The sensivity is too low, I'll check next time I go to the arcade lmao (I might be a customer but I'm able do change settings, I even repaired a few cabs for them lmao)

[@nyan5000]

Since the buttons are anolog, would it be possible to do somethig similar to the wooting rapid trigger on software?

[@KuroYamigetsu]

I've never been able to grasp the in-line controls, i grew up on the older arcade ganes with directional and face buttons, 8 total for note hitting, makes rapid notes way more managable than pressing one button over and over for me persoanlly Edit: the hori project diva x mini ps4 controller is the style i mean

[@Three-ObjectUniversalParadise]

ngl I kinda agree when you said the DIVA Pro is small xd

[@bojidarkrasivq]

the style miku 😭

[@ellienyan]

is there any kind of site that sells these kind of things in europe? my country loves to add tax and customs

[@Fatexcx]

Best vid known to man

[@micknicklp929]

Am I the only one who find it so satisfying to buy controllers ?

[@jamesmith1048]

I want to see you play groove coaster 😩😩

[@abang1588]

What happened to project diva arcade in SG?

[@xarbd156]

Heyo wassup my favorite masochist entertainer !

[@Norman_2]

Tokaku You are the best :3

[@blazeless4065]

Crazy vid

[@Damien2211]

What headphones are around her neck?

[@cntrlaltgeek]

Wait, the controller is already sold out...

[@Nocxys]

Me bouta play Project diva on the psp with an emu 30 fps, on touchscreen🥶

[@claireparker6460]

Good review. It was an underwhelming controller for me. I wish this controller supported arcade mode like DIVALLER. That would turn the slider into true analog input instead of sending L/R. It truly takes away from the experience, especially when you are browsing the tracks. They ask you to pay $460 (with shipping to US) to mimic the arcade experience with this thing so at that point why couldn't they add them? I also hated how I had to wait a second or two before the touch buttons activate again after you complete a song. They say this is for accidental touches during gameplay but accidental touch happened often for me anyway so it was just a nuisance. They should have just went away with a physical (or touch-sensitive) switch to lock and unlock on the side. Such a disappointing product, especially for $460 that I paid for.

[@ZhouSensor_ZXZ]

Thank you very much for your purchase. At the beginning of the design, I considered using mechanical keys to implement function keys. However, due to the problem of mechanical key life, there is a high probability that there will be repairs due to damaged function keys, which will be very embarrassing, because these keys are not that important. That's why the way to use touch was chosen. The usage situation you encounter should be sitting and playing, and it should be placed on a table at the same height as your chest. I don't recommend playing this way because it's bad for the back muscles. If you are sitting and playing, it is recommended to put it on your lap. The most recommended method is to put it on a table with a height of about 80-90cm and play standing up. The above two recommended play methods will also avoid accidental touches of the function keys.

[@cubingaxolotl1918]

wow

[@PFSnypr]

as someone who uses an arcade stick to play PD games i couldnt imagine having to learn how to use this thing, (i only use one hand for buttons, and use lever for slides)

[@nikoli5794]

Soniku? Minic?

[@saracrouk3808]

I want that controller and the game but my parents would never😢

[@triluck1450]

The cost for shipping to SEA so expensive that if i flight to US buy this and flight back it's more cheaper : .)

[@tokaku]

controllers are shipped from China! So the shipping price to SEA is what you'd expect from China to SEA

[@triluck1450]

@@tokaku that's not always work for most of goods, i bought a custom macbook. Though it made in china, they whipped it to US and sent it back to SEA for some reason. But thanks, i like your advide. Maybe someday i should go to china for travel and buy things

[@robottoakitohypmic3rddrb]

Imagine playing sdvx with controlles be like :

[@galaxozo]

you should play the mobile rhythm/bullet hell game "SOUND SHOOTING!!"

[@jorge7362]

I need one :( is sold out

[@irudexap]

I have thisss, but it's too loud! Touch slider is great thooooough 🤤

[@dragoyehh]

5:01 owelming ♡´･ᴗ･`♡ uwu

[@ReyOfLight727]

Remind me again how many controllers you have

[@jennassexdungeon]

like over 21

[@claudenein]

you should def try parappa the rapper fr

[@XKurrA]

sold out :(

[@irudexap]

TINY??? sorry bro my hands may be small, but that's big AS HELL

[@Poogimuns]

Dats like 5 lights and 2 stickers 4 buttons and 5 pieces of plastic that thing prolly cost like 20$ max

[@MohammadRafiq-br8rp]

Hewwo everybody

[@UknongTV]

Touch!

[@ViZageFader]

My sister might like this She's way better at Project DIVA than I am

[@ViZageFader]

Why...... Why are these spam bots everywhere now? I just made an offhand remark...

[@aliaseses]

they added kusanagi to taiko

[@tokaku]

HELL FUCKING YEAH

[@mrsleepy08]

Thats what she said😭

[@zer0__900]

Hiiii

[@RaidenWithA_Y]

Hi

[@triluck1450]

Hummmmmm

[@retr04256]

Firdy

[@enjoyerregret7039]

U

[@itzapply]

First

[@youkahhh]

omg im 1st guys!!11!!!1 (pin or ip address reveal real!!1!!!1) (this is a joke i swear)

[@Cl_official_channel]

What the---------------------------------

[@langmeng825]

White Discord is sooooo wrong!