Project Kermit 24 (reupload) A Series Land Rover Full Restoration

[@maximusironthumper]

Thanks to John Colley who was the viewer who pointed out the error to me. The seal should have been fitted dry. Full explanation in the next episode when I redo it.

[@lazylad8544]

🤪 all that work. Oh well back to the drawing board.👍👍

[@menditman2004]

I had the same on my Lambretta project I left some dowels out and a subscriber let me know, the power of youtube 😂 I’m loving the Kermit build I have 2 defenders a 110 in good condition and a rusty 90 with will be a projects at some point. Thanks for the videos 🙂👍

[@chrissmith7655]

Hey he who never made a mistake has done nothing. Takes a man to admit an error to the public. Many thanks Max, always look for your latest upload.

[@stephendavies923]

I noticed that the previous version got taken down and wandered why, as it couldn't have broken any YT regulations. Well done Max on admitting and owning the mistake and then re-uploading pointing this out. Your integrity is one of the reasons we enjoy your content. All the very best to you.

[@BenRelle]

Fires up the BIG compressor: "I wasn't asking, I was telling!"

[@crispinleslie]

Anyone that owns an error has much more credibility. Thoroughly enjoy your content Max- you have inspired me to be more productive.

[@rdflo6739]

I used the the old input shaft to whack out the spigot bearing with grease. It was a tighter fit aan no hole in the middle. But I've never done that scary seal.. just mop oil off the floor..;) Great to see so much progress!

[@lookcreations]

Was keeping quiet as unless your seal has the instruction leaflet it’s not obvious. The sealing face is ptfe and has to ‘settle’ in before running ( a few hours), oil or grease prevent the seal from doing so apparently 🙄. Bugger !

[@darrellsears-uk]

Great Job on the series Max, been following you for years no since first off grid talks. I have always put a small amount of grease on the inside of the seal, it will be fine. Dry or a touch of grease/Oil will have no impact. The Seal will no degrade due to oil as its job is to keep engine oil seeping onto the clutch, there are still parts in the clutch that recieve grease (thrust bearing etc) its not going to mess the clutch up. Any contaminants wont last long in the clutch the forces and heat involved will just burn it off in worst case scenario. If it was a F1 car I would redo it but a landy it will be fine. Youre doing a great Job its not a Site repair with cornflake packet gaskets and baked bean tin exhaust clamps. Its all by the book with care and diligence. Dont let keyboard warriors tell you you are doing anything wrong. I love the real life working environment and making tools to do Job (angle iron Brace and Dumb Bell Drift) instead of KZbin Workshops with every specialist tool.

[@petew8388]

Yes Darrell you are correct about the small amount of lube. I certainly do and no problems. You need a good degree of common sense and you do find official workshop manual instructions a little questionable some times.

[@Equiluxe1]

The trick with the grease in the spigot bearing works better if after you put the grease in you then stuff it with some rag, this stops the grease escaping past the socket or whatever.

[@darrellsears-uk]

I saw the same trick the other day using old Bread (i kid you not) and a socket extension as a drift.

[@richardsiddon610]

We all do it..😂 Best wishes for 2023.🎉🎉

[@FretboardToAsh]

Well done re-uploading it and pointing it out quickly, would help a lot in case someone is following along and does the same.

[@chasephotos4780]

Max, I did the same thing with my 2.5 diesel in my 110. There should be a label on the seal box saying do not lubricate! Then when I replaced the clutch on my 2.25 petrol, the o-ring came out of the channel at the back, and wouldn't allow the flywheel housing to sit correctly. Another crankshaft seal ruined as it all had to come off again. Best to order two seals for each time you do the job, I guess. I am really enjpying your work. Cheers!

[@jjt1093]

Had no idea you were converting to 200tdi, great choice,I did that to my series 3 109 almost finished, Full engine rebuilld from when I bought it in a million pieces and having to order missing parts and such BUT its done and Runs like a champ.

[@alexdavidson3344]

Good work, I've just finished rebuilding the 200tdi in my defender. Running well now. Went through 2 rear main seals before I finally decided to rebuild it to get rid of the pesky leak. Fitted a genuine corteco seal and not a drop of oil.Definitely have to be fitted dry. Also replaced the T seals on the bearing cap as they can be bad for oil leaks too. I had the same experience with grease and the spigot Bush, didn't do anything so chisled it out too.

[@frankdeegan8974]

Max, my friend the use of grease to remove the pilot bearing was right method but the exacution is the problem, you need to have the plunger fit tighter. Whittle a piece of wood to be just slightly oversized, what is required is a kind of hydraulic action. Your plunger needs to fit tighter, it does work, cause I do it this way. Good luck.

[@jonnoMoto]

Not sure why he didn't use the old shaft he used as a clutch tool. I've used bar soap successfully in the past. Works instead of grease when I don't have a tight fit

[@junewinton2048]

Happy New Year!

[@billrimmer5596]

Great vid. Hard to imagine how putting oil on a seal that will b sealing oil would in any way hurt it. Been a mech all my life. The 73 at present. That pilot bearing didn’t have much in the way of square inches of area to allow the massive hydraulic pressure generated by the hammer blows. I thought for sure u would machine a little round stock in your lathe to act as the piston. That would have stopped the leakage around the extension that was reducing your effective pressure by a whole bunch. Anxious to c the reasoning behind u having to take it all apart again. I think it would have been just fine. Of course I may b wrong. Just not convinced yet. Oil walking up the threads of the flywheel bolts can b a problem. When assembling, a dab of silicon on the flywheel and matching bolt faces helps out. Many new bolts come coated with the sealing similar to what the rear main had on its exterior.

[@dragon4r4]

Teflon seals have very good chemical/oil resistance and work well under high temperatures. They seal effectively with friction, oil reduces the friction so they leak if oil is applied during assembly

[@billrimmer5596]

@@dragon4r4 Thank u Ben!!!

[@driven2destruction515]

The hydraulic method works you just need a solid bar instead of a socket then wrap it in tape until its a snug enough fit that when inserting there is a bit of effort required

[@LiamRoberts00]

One good thing to come from it is that we do enjoy your uploads!!!

[@innleadair]

re the spigot bush removal. You need something that's a much closer fit than the socket and something without a hole through it :o) A chunk of steel bar is ideal, doesn't need to fit exactly as a few turns of carefully wound electrical tape can be used to make it fit perfectly. Instinct says that the tape would just wilt immediately, but as long as the steel bar was free from oil/grease when you wound the tape on, it works fine. Fill the hole with grease, start the punch in the hole and hit it hard with a decent sized hammer. A couple of goes is usually enough to pop the bush out.

[@MAMDAVEM]

brilliant idea to use the dumbell weight

[@adaffodil6695]

Be careful when using 21/4 engine mount brackets. Yes they will fit and in some cases work but sometimes they don't mount the engine high enough for the 200 tdi front pulley to clear the front diff at full travel (sometimes it works fine. Hurrah for Land Rover build tolerances!).I think the 200 has a bigger pulley than a 21/4 and also the front diff is in a slightly different place in a series than a coiler. Great video as always!

[@daz6937]

Great job 👍🏻

[@chazzwye1124]

Always enjoy your videos, can’t wait to see Kermit come together. It seems you’ve been planning this project for a long time as you magically pull some desired part from the darkest depths of your workshop. Only the best for Kermit it would seem. absolutely love it!

[@croonersteve]

Moist bread or shop towels are another great way of pushing out spigot bearings works every time. Great content as usual Max 👍👍👍

[@dragon4r4]

Tried it a few times with bread and grease, never worked. So easy to break the spigot bush with a chisel and no messing about with tricky stuff

[@croonersteve]

@@dragon4r4 one of us must be doing something right

[@fiatpunta8075]

I'm assuming it has to be fitted dry then.. seem to remember something about that when I changed the seal on my 67 vw bay. Give my best to your grandad.

[@FontedaPipaPortugueseFarmLife]

Easy enough to do! Wishing you all the best in the build and that 2023 brings you good luck and health and that the black dog stays away.

[@bowycolt2132]

Starting to come a long getting excited

[@philhermetic]

I am intrigued! How can you possibly wreck an oil seal by oiling it when it will have oil on it for all of its working life? Phil

[@mikedoblo4782]

these days there not made of rubber and you fit them dry and let them sit for a few hours before turning whatever there sealing, its hard stuff and always wears grooves in crankshafts and driveshafts

[@Fintoman]

Me too?🤔

[@petew8388]

It's basically BS. The seal is designed to keep oil in and so the lube is certainly not alien to the seal.

[@mikedoblo4782]

@@petew8388 yea its strange, to be honest i would think this engine is too old for that type of seal unless new ones are made that way

[@lookcreations]

On the better quality seals it does include a leaflet that explains not to lube and why. It’s the ptfe coating that is damaged before it’s bed in so doesn’t seal.

[@nicholasreason8379]

honesty is the best policy, and something about a cherry or apply tree in America

[@danball2060]

excellent job looking very nice and will be a great addition to kermit can wait to see more progress oh and awesome new tires

[@christopherkise]

I cannot understand how such small amount of oil can damage that seal, when one thinks of where it lives. Looking forward to the explanation

[@gatti5002]

viton seals have no spring inside to keep them tight like the usual seals , thats how you can tell them apart.and the need to be installed dry , otherwise they will leak , ask me how i know...

[@Tale_Of_Two_Land_Rovers]

200tdi's all came painted gold from factory, and the 'gold seal' rebuilds that everyone raves on about were never a thing for the 200's, they were just factory rebuilds if they had any work done whilst in service, the amount of people trying to sell 200tdi's that still show the original gold paint as gold seal engines is laughable! True gold seal engines had a totally different engine number to the original, along with paperwork verifying it was an authentic rebuild, either way, the 200/300tdi is about the best mechanical injection 4 pot diesel out there, such a lovely lump that land rover just got right!

[@tonyhussey3610]

Can someone explain the purpose of that large rubber like material isolated the engine to the casing at around 31:03 Just wondering??

[@machiningbasics1729]

Lovely job ! I went for a 300 tdi in my series the rear main is a much easier job on the 300 and timing belt but lovely job

[@twentysevenlitres]

The "Rover Gold Seal" badge has the BL logo on it - 80's then? With the rear main seal, it's also a case that you save yourself a much larger headache having to do it at a later date...

[@peterhall5458]

I was on the edge of my seat watching love it nice job its coming along can't wait to see more happy new year max

[@chad2886]

I have always greased the backside and inner sealing surface of every seal I've ever installed and while I've had two leak it was due to imperfections that tore up the seal. I'm interested in hearing the explanation as to why application of oil to a seal would ruin it. My understanding has been oil on the seal lessons friction, and friction causes heat that can overheat the seal.

[@dragon4r4]

Teflon works best with friction, oil applied during assembly obviously lessens friction and it will leak. Teflon also works well under high temperatures so heat from friction is not a problem

[@nickboylen6873]

Max, do yourself a big favour now, when replacing the crank seal, and drill clearance holes through the bell housing flange for those four cap head bolts into the ladder frame - with the bell housing undrilled, you will not be able to remove the bolts with the gear box attached, and thus unable to remove the ladder frame to access the crank shaft without removing the gear box from the engine. Using a drift to hydraulically remove the spigot bush needs a solid drift. With the socket set, you are just compressing the air inside the void of the socket.

[@bchant19]

Bit of a bummer about the rear main seal fopar but at least your gonna sort it out now before it's all fitted back in the chassis.

[@micklamb9942]

I’ve used bread be for just keep packing it in and it will come out 😊

[@Pete.Ty1]

👍👍👍 Wishing a happy healthy and prosperous New Year to you and your family.

[@Fintoman]

If you have nothing else, good old paraffin makes a excellent cutting medium when tapping aluminium

[@plasticspastic7659]

loving the series

[@graemefisher7014]

I am pretty sure you would not sell Kermit when it’s finished but I was going to say Kermit is basically got to be a new land rover and worth a small fortune

[@guyemmott4009]

Max is building pretty much what most of us die-hards would deem as our ultimate version.. Loving it 👍😀

[@milcommguy5927]

Good Job

[@bchant19]

Can't all that old rubber be used on the trailers you got running landy wheels?

[@WilliamTMusil]

Hiya Max

[@innleadair]

seal fitting looked fine to me? I've oiled or greased every seal I've fitted for the last 40 odd years... MANY seals, never had a problem.

[@dragontattooee]

Serious case of " Ah Shite" moment

[@julianbeesley5059]

I wondered who’d be the first to spot that error. 🙂

[@noddybray]

oh dear!

[@Chr.U.Cas1622]

👍👌👏

[@garyevans9509]

Don’t forget when you’ve finished with the torque wrench unwind it ,as it will weaken the spring and uncalibrate it ,(every days a school day)

[@twocvbloke]

Rather sucks about the seal oopsie, looked like a lot of work just to get that done, only for it to come apart again and be redone, doesn't make sense that an oil seal could be messed up with oil though, given it'll be in contact with oil throughout its' life... :\

[@jbuckley2546]

Was sure the problem was gonna be a snapped die. Was cringing all the way thru that segment. Glad it wasn't ofc.

[@dw1444]

try bread instead of greese to remove bearing

[@davidlawrence503]

just noticed your smart new overalls, you're all set for 2023. Thank you for great work and all the best for New Years Watching from Australia

[@digitalacid]

I'm of the opinion that this oil wont make a blind bit of difference 🤷‍♂️

[@toml8142]

Here is a video of Steve summers doing the bearing trick with bread kzbin.info/www/bejne/r3ebgGiJet2rpsU, ave also used greasy rags