Project KITE BOAT - 25 Knots - Part TWO

The first proper day out in the boat was a flying success!

[@boatrentalsvirginislands4878]

I built one of these. I hooked the kite to the boat too. If you put a ring at the four corners of the tramp and then run a line through the four rings so that you form a U. then put a line across the U with jam cleats. This allowed me to move the kite to any point on the tramp for some hull flying! Cheers!

[@alanmydland5210]

I'm interested, I have a 18 hobie and a 18m kite, may need bigger. I need your thoughts on set up.!!

[@andrewjc7288]

That's a great idea, do you have or could you put up a video to show the functioning of that?

[@SamLight]

Thanks for the tips, I will try this!

[@norrispalmer3250]

Hey Jeff Logosz...Can you imagine how far you and Toni have taken this Voyage and brought so much to others lives....I look back on the day we drove from Hood River to the beach with your prototype kite and buggy....Now look...Good Job!

[@canolando3499]

Put a swivel chair up front with a footrest and it will be more enjoyable. Looking forward to part 3...

[@shockstain]

sam you are the maybe the only one with good taste in music in the hole kitesurf scene! cheers

[@jimwortham8634]

As a catamaran sailor absolutely loved it what a great idea getting back maybe a problem LOL

[@marcuskelly5768]

Awesome idea, well done. Hopefully all those old abandoned hobbies will come back to life.

[@kna656]

that cat is just begging for foils my friends. Foils will also make for a dryer ride!

[@Adventureman_Dan]

Unreal man! Outstanding build and good times. Way to go, keep improving this, and who knows where you will be!

[@RafCenterMyself]

Yeah, I'd like to see more of these 😄 really nice footage and editing btw. 👍

[@ashtontrenz6804]

Love these videos, can’t wait!

[@Logopai]

Great worth on the kite boat! Love your videos, can't wait to see more ☺️

[@raydeediventure9549]

Love your adventure man... Keep it up.

[@AndyHutchinsons]

Pretty sweet drone flying too!

[@lifesbetteronaboard]

This is so sick. You really got moving! I would love to be wakeboarding behind the boat just to add a level of meta lol

[@dksurfer]

Nice to see you again! Great video.

[@TheChupacabra]

Look at those downloops! “Hang on pops!” Unreal.

[@23desdfe345r2fd23f23]

never expected it to rip like that with off the shelf stuff. insane new era of sailing come here pls.

[@davemcclernon3222]

Absolutely epic mate, love it. "Its really very civilised" hahaha.

[@stevenvachon9745]

Cool, looks like the cataraman really stabilize the ride. You might want to call it a kitecat though, or kitcating.

[@brucedownunda7054]

Well done chaps. Always knew it was a good option for those stranded cats

[@dajobra]

I love this type of horsing around. You could take a second bar and connect it with extensions to the main bar. You should also put a tiller on the rudder. I think you could see gains with better weight distribution. Keep on pushing

[@JogiJacob]

Thats sick! Keep up the great work!

[@christopherbennett2078]

Will u be fitting hydrofoils to the cat in part three?

[@jacksbackable]

Christopher Bennett now there’s an Idea...! 💡

[@ronsmith1364]

PLUS ULTRA!!!!

[@SamLight]

One day!

[@damienvdv]

@@SamLight could you take out the dagger boards and put j foils in place perhaps? When we going to see more videos on the the kite boat bro?

[@alexnadrebou]

dude, this kite boat project is awesome!

[@friendoftellus5741]

Awesome new way of sailing !!!

[@rjalvarezbigote]

Awesome project! I think it could be improved by installing an extension to the bar, connect two lines to the bar about 4 to 6 ft long each and put another bar at the end so you can sit more on the edge of the boat and not where you sit now. The second bar can be just a 2 ft piece of broomstick with two holes drilled on the ends. That way your weight can be better distributed on the boat. Have fun!

[@NotnaRed]

That's the way to go. Only a question of time to get sailing to the next level

[@petesessa2041]

What a hoot. I never saw this kind of set up/rig on a cat before. Looks like a blast.

[@SamLight]

super easy to set up as well!

[@directsound]

We need to try this with a Laser!⛵🤙🏻🌴

[@40hills1]

I have a Zuma and want to try it... At first with just a 7m or 9m in light winds 😬

[@ynech]

Great video.

[@berniesboardhouse8078]

Men, brilliant idea 🙌

[@bsrcat1]

Can you imagine the speed you would get if you made it into a ring hydrofoil? Whoa 😳. Good job fellas

[@hyperbitcoinizationpod]

Looks like a lot of fun.

[@oahukiteboarder808]

As a kiteboarder- this is really cool!

[@garyhendrie7496]

Awesome concept mate.

[@RonnieColedong]

Hey Sam, bring that rig to kite beach Cape Town in Dec-Jan and clear out some space for us please ;)

[@mithral07]

Boat looks like it was really low in the water. Might want to check the hulls for water. Awesome work. Looks like fun

[@davidgray9639]

Can't wait bro 😊🤙

[@biasbilt]

Sam, make a bar extension so you can sit further away from it. Lines from the ends of the bar down through a karabiner or 2 down by the chicken loop and then back to another bar. That way you are still controlling the bar in the same way, but where you want to be on the boat. You might be able to use a windsurfing harness line with the Velcro ends to attach it to your bar easily

[@SamLight]

i like the simplicity though, its nice if something goes wrong

[@shannonparker7404]

Awesome. Had a Hobie 18 and the rig was a HEAVY pain in the backside. Makes me want to revisit. I know where there is a hull sitting that I'm sure the owner would be happy for me just to cart away...

[@SamLight]

its so much easier to use as a kite boat than a sail boat!

[@aubryserradell7025]

beautiful job :)

[@John-2Cat]

Amazing though. Feck the wingfoil crap, this is brilliant and so exciting to watch Sam 😀

[@raydeediventure9549]

I have shared it in my facebook.. Great job buddy.. I cant imagine how fun it is.

[@SamLight]

How did you get this link? Please don’t share it! It’s not live yet

[@theoboland7983]

@@SamLight It comes up in your subscriber's video feed. It's normal, can't wait to see it! Keep it up

[@SamLight]

@@theoboland7983 ahh ok haha thanks

[@russellhawkins5113]

That’s the future of performance and performance cruising catamarans and trimarans..... and monohulls that have the strength for it.

[@LUCID99999]

Real Nice 👍, what about another cross beam say 700mm back for attaching the kite too and then being able to plant feet then on the front beam. I’m sure you have loads of ideas 💡. But with some though and trial runs, I bet you could get one hell of a set up and a bit more comfort . Top vids by the way, great drone footage. Makes me want to be there. 🪁🚤🌬🌊

[@HiPpYBoAtErS]

looks so good,

[@user-hh1qn5ut4j]

You are amazing. Take care your dad...!

[@ChrisBrayPhotography]

Very cool. May I ask windward performance? Minimum angle to the wind? Wonder how it compares to a hobie with a sail?

[@Drucio]

looks so fun.

[@mikegrant8490]

Have your considered mounting the wind sail base plate slightly up on a sliding Sampson post-like device so the sail operator could kneel or even possibly stand to aid trim, crucial for speed and also excellent for comfort on long reaches and runs? Emulating the body position of a kite surfer and the ability to instantly maneuver the kite could wring out a few more knots. By having it slide fore and aft, you'd achieve nearly infinite adjustment for trimming the boat. Or would there be too much windage and slow you down? At 25 knots, you're probably right at designed hull speed and it's sailing flat. It can't get too much better than that from your current design parameters. A bit of glass work on the dagger boards by working in a bit of foiling effect might get the boat up into the mid thirties but increasing the risk of pulling her out of the water and then pearling back in. Have fun, be safe and thanks for taking us on the rides.

[@gotoluc]

You should be able to solo sail the cat if you used your feet for steering the rudders. Using a bar bolted to the center beam extending forward to support a center bolted pole for your feet to rest on which would have lines at its ends going back to control the rudders. This would probably also help you to better support yourself and mostly if you add a back rest. I Don’t know if this navigating seat would need to swivel or if it can stay fixed? I’ve also been thinking of using a kite to navigate a foiling cat. Shouldn’t be that complicated. Thanks for sharing mate!

[@timmit3579]

I like this !!

[@forjahlove]

this is sick, first video I have seen on this.. I have tried it but never hooked into the hull of a boat like that

[@SilentYachting]

Yes Sam - more please!

[@cwright1971]

Great stuff

[@francoisguinois1180]

love this

[@ressanopapanoa]

Nice view from the air

[@deanaoxo]

Maybe put a steerable skeg, or foil at each corner, and sit in a central position with a purpose built control bar. Oh, right, we did that 15 years ago. . . Best of luck, kiting is exciting.

[@adayinthelife5772]

Good shit sam

[@John-2Cat]

What about moving the point of contact with the catamaran and kite slightly more aft for a better planning effect ?? I have no idea if would work but might slightly move c of g back. Pull the boat slightly higher and therefore more speed

[@shockstain]

Finally some kite videos with proper music! Keep it up Sam! Great content!

[@fudogwhisperer3590]

You should do that on a hydroplane catamaran, You'd be literally flying!

[@levelplain9887]

So good.

[@viagenspph374]

Wowww,, What a great success project, my congratulations for that, I love it so amazing. What is this place of the tests with it?

[@TTphilos]

Time for a long distance, multiday adventure? That's what I'd be angling for, for sure

[@SamLight]

thats the long term plan, got some kinks to iron out first

[@oftenlucid]

This is fascinating from a sailing perspective. Quick observation. Take it for what it's worth. A sail boat moves through the water on a combination of Center of Effort and Center of Lateral Resistance. The Center of Lateral Resistance is fixed somewhere on your hull or Keel/dagger board and is used more so when sailing up wind, when your center of effort pushes you more sideways with the sails in tight over the bow-stern center line of the boat. When you ease your sails sailing down wind, the keel/dagger boards become less important. There is more to it that that, but I didn't see a lot of up wind sailing, so if it does not seem like your dagger boards are useful, maybe just chuck them? Especially in a Cat. The two hulls act like keels, more so that a mono-hull. Picture of CE and CLR. www.jet14.com/get-your-centerboard-vertical Not trying to be a know it all, just really excited seeing you try to crack this code. I live in San Francisco and I am just starting to Kite sail. You have inspired me to see how far kite sailing can take me. I like that its on a smaller cat. It seems more manageable. I can't wait to see what is next for you guys. Best of luck! Subscribed.

[@Kitetender]

do you know kitetender? monohull

[@SamLight]

thanks for the tips, all good points. the dagger boards do help to go upwind, i found only 1 is enough, its still pretty good going upwind without them, no need for them going downwind, give it a try, its actually super easy and fun!

[@CORYJOHNM]

Flip the engine bracket over. It will raise the engine and get it at a better angle. Good stuff yall are doing. Subbed!

[@SamLight]

thanks!

[@chrisdickinson4576]

Great video. Would be interesting to see your KiteCat in a race with a traditional Catamaran.

[@SamLight]

yes do you know anyone who wants a race?

[@chrisdickinson4576]

@@SamLight I am afraid I dont. There must be a few people who race CATs in the solent, maybe try a sailing club? They might be interested to see how it compares also :)

[@samzmann]

cool music 👍

[@hotshotzoom]

Awesome :)

[@CaptBill69]

I recognized the Hobie 18. Got a Hobie 21 SE ... I have converted (part time option) as a paddle boat w anchor and Bimini shade roof, ... to promote some group snorkeling fishing aerobic exercise adventures. That boat glides like two knife blades in the water. QUESTION: Is the mast base a good place to anchor a big kite, ...or would have a frame at front of cat, maybe with pivotable seat ... Be Any Better ??? in your opinion ???

[@9474Larry]

Pure Fun!

[@mansve23]

Very cool

[@jrgenottesen2199]

This project is so cool :) But maybe a safety leash around the arm that's killing the kite if you fly of the boat? ;P

[@jansenhobbs2214]

That's what the middle line is for to basically stall the kite it can also be used to take the kite off from the ocean if you crash down into the water. I think.

[@SamLight]

yea it would be tricky if we lost somebody over board, good points!

[@matthewmoir8627]

Great idea! Looks fun! How does it go compared to having a mast and sails?

[@alanmydland5210]

I have to say it's different, little wetter than a mask

[@SamLight]

its actually easier i think in some ways!

[@s2oooo]

Can you extend just the steering line's only so your not stuck in that back breaking position. Obviously the steering line's would have to go through two swivel rollers then out to a power kite two line bar with a couple of knots either side keeping the normal throw of the bar. This will allow you to move about the boat side to side. Utilizing this with a tiller extension the boat could be used single handedly. The only other option would be to have a sliding mainsheet traveler but that's alot of work.

[@WibovanNoort]

s2oooo Perhaps an arrangement to control the rudder with your feet.

[@s2oooo]

@@WibovanNoort my mind boggles at how that could be done but i like the idea 😁

[@jelleotter]

This music is great

[@PragmaticThinker]

Hobart Alter would think this a great progression to his invention

[@kingandqueenturben8293]

Pretty cool

[@jackp492]

Very cool, how big is the kite itself?

[@domitorid177]

How much upwind you are able to go?

[@prestonphelps8814]

ur so dope man!!!!

[@jakecollins9181]

Yes my guy at hayling

[@ozzycool1000]

This could be a race event! 2-man crew that switches over one steering one kiting. Long distance races. or short ones. I would watch.

[@SamLight]

Absolutely!

[@Stefano-en1yz]

What size of kite did you use for this video?

[@muklin]

Backroll or it isn't real.

[@nowherefast6575]

this could totally be used to actually teach kitesurfing, like kite handling

[@Jadan888]

Yes, I want to do exactly that. This method takes away all hazards for the student. Once the student understands the handling and wind window, then give em a board.

[@OkalaborationO]

Or you could use a $75 training kite . . .

[@Jadan888]

Kala Raymond trainer kites don’t teach to feel the sheeting in/out the bar.

[@JohnsonJLB]

@@Jadan888 It's possible to do, but not out of the box. You'd just have to have someone readjust the strings on the trainer kite to make it a 4 liner then use an appropriate bar.

[@ec2sit617]

Kitemaraning is here to stay steer an gomn...woooooo getting one for my 12 metter

[@JohnsonJLB]

It'd be interesting to see a the same boat with a similar sized sail next to you to compare the efficiency of the sail vs the kite. I'd imagine the sail might do better since the boat is designed for that, but it's possible the kite would surprise.

[@SamLight]

i have been much faster in it kiting than i have sailing!

[@JohnsonJLB]

@@SamLight That's great to hear! So kite beats sail. I guess because it can generate more apparent wind? I'm a kiteboarder so I was rooting for the kite. Looks like you're having tons of fun! Best of luck continuing to improve the sport.

[@kottiwood]

Seems like the engine bracket or how you call it brakes a lot :/ but nice to see theses kite performing well on old kats :)

[@radarriau]

You might need to add some strength to the beam, because it’s not designed to be lifted at the center mast base over the dolphin striker. This could maybe be done with a couple of compression struts and some cable but it might hinder your freedom for flying the kite.

[@radarriau]

Pretty cool.... I know they use kites as a back up on the Volvo race in case one of the boats breaks a mast. How many meters is that kite? I thought I heard 70 is that right?

[@SamLight]

17m

[@cedricmealin7420]

Sick

[@ballis2000]

Cool I think a EV motor that could be strapped down on deck would be better for safety wise but so cool

[@gregstafford2155]

Great idea, what speed did you get ?

[@SamLight]

24.6 knots

[@pacificdynamicbuilders4380]

Now you need foils!

[@AndrewPattullo]

Rather kitesurf .... cool music🤟

[@followthewhiterabbit7504]

Have you considered a 'stack' or 'string' of smaller kites to increase power? Do you think this could be applied to a cruising sailboat?

[@SamLight]

yea for sure, it gets a lot more complicated when you add more weight and more power

[@geokite]

Peter Lynn history.

[@BassSwirls]

They're actually thinking of using kites to pull ships .... been in the pipeline for years

[@hugoedholm1364]

Take of the engine when kiting, let it be at the sandbar?

[@russianaircraft376]

yes that was a lot of fun but now multiply the lines four to five times when you have your lines at the distance of 500 M to 750 M the wind is more stable the steering is a little bit slower you have a little bit more drag because of your lines but it isn't better experience