Tuning Pt3: Rates & Expos

[@quadsquadfpv2476]

Hopefully you are looking down and seeing how much you are helping the noobie FPV Pilots. Your videos really help me understand the intricacies of quads. Thank you buddy :O) I know you are still flying, just at a higher altitude!

[@TRITONFPV]

Miss ya JC. Still helping those in need. RIP Brother 💗

[@MrPlogibear]

Am still learning from u man even if ur long gone.. thanks pal.. rip..

[@KickPassingShot]

If you told me to throw my drone into a lake to make it fly better, I would. Another awesome video/playlist! Know that what you do and the time you dedicate to helping others is greatly appreciated.

[@aldinho903]

god bless this kid.. still learning, RIP JC

[@r2eq80]

Mate where many other have failed you actually explain PIDs in language most of us can grasp.......WELL DONE Buddy.

[@BB-mk1er]

I freaking love those reverse power loops!

[@miguelquiroz1550]

Man. We really miss him a lot. He was so great and knowledgeable. RIP

[@tommysmith2908]

Thank you, Thank you, Thank you! I finally get it, how RC Rate, Super Rate, and RC Expo work together. Nice ride JC, just in time for summer in SC. I can see myself in your STRIX sunglasses. Great Video!

[@ProjectBlueFalcon]

Thanks Tommy

[@MrBumbles2]

you will be missed, by far the best tutor ever , i have learned so much from him RIP my friend,

[@marene76]

RIP JC you will be missed learned so much from you over the years.

[@MattMerritt]

Great job explaining it.. this is such a critical thing for people to understand too... when people at the field ask 'how do you fly so smooth', well this is a good part of the reason... adjusting everything to your own tastes!

[@ooOoo.....]

This dude is still helping folks out… thanks brother!

[@garytolhopf]

RIP JC... condolences to all family, can't imagine how devastated you all must be. Miss ya mate :-(

[@kennymichaud5366]

What happened to him

[@smokinjoe1256]

motorcycle -.-

[@kennymichaud5366]

@@smokinjoe1256 thats too bad. I used to have a ninja. Had it for a year. Had to get rid of it before i hurt myself on it. Drove it lime i stole it. Did he have a helmet on?

[@mafiafpv3469]

@@kennymichaud5366 relax on the questions guy

[@ambermeows150]

Welcome back Jc!! Great to see you back and creating new content :D

[@livelifezippo8250]

How much I will miss you my friend, you will be missed by many. I have learned so much by your video's. I'll take my next flight in memory of you. R.I.P. my friend.

[@rl2769]

LiveLife Zippo wow is he dead? How? I thought image just quit

[@txcowboyfpv7898]

Going to miss you so bad. u we're so important to the community and me. I'm actually crying and hurt very much. your a great guy and will be always remembered. RIP JC. we all loved you bro

[@arbvevo2]

May Allah give you peace, i've built my drone from his videos a year ago, now i wanted to fix it's rate and he was the one to show up in the search... RIP

[@popduce1024]

Learned so much from this guy. Miss you Blue Falcon. R.I.H. my dude!!

[@jscales107]

I have been watching these videos didnt even know you had departed from us. RIP JC

[@luisrodrigues1630]

So helpful. You explain things in a simple way and easy to follow. Can't wait for the next video.

[@maxun1]

Miss you so much, great individual, hope god keep you in his glory.

[@ApexLight7]

JC flying like a Boss!

[@MrJarrod]

Thanks JC for all your help this video really helped me understand PID tuning better than any other. Awesome job.

[@JasperTielen]

So cool you didn't cut out the crash. Nice video and well explained.

[@angelicgundam90]

this is absolutely the best video I have found on rates and expos! thank you for making it easy to understand!

[@Woodsywoodsy-sj9qy]

Thanks this is the best video explaining expo & rates I've found.

[@vanister83]

Very helpful, and straight forward for what you want to know... great video

[@justfly7730]

We miss you so much JB rest in heaven

[@einsteind]

looks like a nice place to fly,,,,, also good to see you in the air !!, lastly thanks for the useful info on tuning.....

[@WildpixFPV]

Thank you so much! This way to explain those rates is clear and understandable! Especially because you show rates, explain and show the effect on flight right away. That helped me a lot, gonna try this out and be back if it won't work tellin' yaow! xD

[@T13-z9e]

dont know what to say but you are vary good in explaining every thing in your videos thank you so much

[@skyisvast]

Even now i'm still learning from you...

[@wildweasel3465]

Great video series. The only thing that was confusing was the titles. Pt 1/2/1/3 I didn’t know which to watch first. Thanks for this though.

[@stevie5150]

I subscribed because your vids have helped a lot getting my quad set up.

[@ProjectBlueFalcon]

Thanks a bunch. Glad to have you

[@Vincedt]

Thank you for the video. I was struggling a little bit with it. Now it's clear!

[@anagami528]

very informative and clearly explained ... great vid sir! I am your long-time subscriber and I know why ... keep doing the great job

[@LookingForEntertainment112]

Great video man, nice explanation at a level anyone can understand.

[@jeffvenable3845]

i appreciate the info. as someone who has issues with just knowing where i am most of the time...its nice to be able to control something about flying...lol

[@seansolorc5568]

Thanks for the video buddy. R.I.P.

[@rotor7evenfpv141]

as always awesome video!

[@fpvbreakfast]

great video! I notice you have very few propwash oscillations coming out of flips. How are you reducing those oscillations? Are you managing that with throttle or any filtering adjustments within betaflight? Cheers!

[@PASSIONPARTAGETUTO]

thank you! it changed my life

[@jackvillin904]

I feel better now knowing I'm not the only one crashing inverted at full throttle 😎

[@ProjectBlueFalcon]

Happens to the best of us

[@jackvillin904]

my son brought to my attention that my comment sounds like I'm happy that you crashed. I'd like to apologize for sounding like a dick. I thought it was a funny comment....maybe not so much. sorry J.C. We are thankful for your vids and instruction on how to perform flights better. Thanks

[@ProjectBlueFalcon]

Ha no I didn't take it any wrong way. You're fine bud

[@TheMadmacs]

i'm just about to tackle these kinda settings, vid was very helpful. i think your camera roll in the crash beat mine... rip little runcam hd.

[@marene76]

Michael Murphy JC passed away few months back in a motorcycle accident. Rip JC

[@rl2109]

Thanks for the info! I agree- some parameters are hard to describe, but you did a really nice job in relating rates to my level of understanding! Also: Nice wheels! Is that an SUV or truck/camper? Congrats!!

[@patrickspalding1397]

Hi JC I love your channel I’ve learned a lot from watching your videos. I’d like to know what 6” prop you use. I tried the readymade RC 6” props and they were really unbalance and caused my quad to fly like crap.

[@skatj23]

Hey J.C. im need some help in finding out what these two little frets or fets are on the vortex 250 pro pdb there really tiny and cant seem to see the numbers. one is the L1 and the other is right below it. I figured to try and repair since the new board is anywhere from 40 to 50 dollars. I know your in school for this kind of thing so figured it wouldnt hurt to ask you where I could get those if possible? Your help is very appreciated. Thank you

[@rolandburrows4859]

Many thanks for this video. I understand fully this stuff now. I borrowed yours but as a noob set my rc rate to 50 while learning. The question I have is how does what affect the PIDS? I heard it impacts pitch more than any other. Does that mean it causes the value to increase? I am flying without a gopro or runcam but will probably do so at some point.

[@KGFlyer55]

Sweet new ride JC ! Should be much better on fuel and not piss off your neighbors!

[@ProjectBlueFalcon]

Oh hell yea. That plus I actually have AC and heat now, and windshield wipers, and its street legal. Driving the race car every day was killing me.

[@marksherman630]

Off subject: When you have a PPM receiver (FRSky compatible) integrated into flight controller board (my first), is there a specific channel that telemetry uses to send VFAS to the Taranis?

[@pmpartners]

Great information thanks for the video.

[@Mantarr1]

Those racerstar 2205 seem pretty good to me, is it really worth the extra dough for emax or T-motors? You using 2300kv I think? Would the 2600kv be better on this kind of build?

[@wr0ngers]

Great video. Where did you get those thumbsticks for your evolution (what are they called)?

[@ProjectBlueFalcon]

A friend of mine 3D printed them. Not sure if he designed it or if the file is online. But I've seen where Ready Made RC sells aluminum ones that look just like it.

[@madyet5235]

HEYYYYY can you tell me if its safe to leave the patch antenna off the true d v3? hypothetically im flying in a small location where there is no need for the patch antenna. is it safe for the video rx to just leave the patch off? iv seen guys do it in other videos but wanna ask the question. tried to contract furious but no response. thanks in advance!

[@charlesmcguire9711]

What angle is your 3D printed HD cam mount at? And what did you make it out of? Thanks.

[@MarioATEFPV]

Thanks for your video. Expo on the turnigy evolution is "0" right? You use BF configuration only.

[@ProjectBlueFalcon]

Yea I dont change anything in the Evolution or any other transmitters. Everything is through BF

[@qumefox]

Is it better to set the rates and expo on the quad, or on the TX? I usually just adjust the maximums I want on the quad, and then tone things down if needed with the rates and expo settings for the model in the taranis.

[@jeffreyodachowski6247]

do you know how to decrease yaw_ accel_ limit In the cli. I don't know what to write or what to write to put it back. That's what Joshua said to do

[@chrismichaels5216]

JC - on a side note, when you get ready to develop your first FC, please re-consider a patreon account or a gofundme account so others that would like to support your development and 'invest' in a pilot developing a FC for pilots.

[@marene76]

Chris Michaels JC passed away a few months back in a motorcycle accident. RIP JC

[@outboxfpv4360]

Iam new to quads. Although i fly good i still struggle with flips and rolls. I like ur tutorial. May i ask i now fly in 3 profiles. I use Rc rate 1.00 for all and .80 for super rates. Actually this should flip and roll sowely ??? I dont like fast flips. Iam flying micros. Can u suggest rates for slow flips and rolls?

[@chrismichaels5216]

JC - I run rc rate at 1.0, super at .83 with .35 expo on pitch/roll and .25 yaw. I get approx 1200 deg/s - what advantages are there with lowering rc rate like your setup.

[@Coreycry]

He explained that it keeps a lower sensitivity for delicate movements. (middle of the stick) Super rate is like a turbo that kicks in when your stick is near the end of the course. By the way, it behaves kinda like an "expo" and I've read many times that expo in Betaflight should not be touched anymore.

[@ProjectBlueFalcon]

I personally prefer lowering the RC rate just to make it more controllable in the center of the sticks because I'm a thumber. Pinchers have more precision so it might not help as much.

[@chrismichaels5216]

Project Blue Falcon I agree, as a Thumber, I like it softer in the middle, my curve looks close you yours with the only real difference being your effective end degrees/s looked like it was 900. For Coreycry, yes, i have a similar setup so it is softer in the middle, the question was we both have it softer in the middle with two different setups and is there a mathematical or programming advantage of one over the other. Please post the links you have 'read' that state that.

[@iquinores]

Where did u get that gopro mount I've been looking for one for my Martian frame ??

[@ProjectBlueFalcon]

I just 3D printed it using a file from thingiverse www.thingiverse.com/thing:2060314

[@iquinores]

I took a better look at it and seen it's the same one I use it looked like I was one peace lol...

[@jeffreyodachowski6247]

I think I got my degrees per second up too high. I only really changed my super rates and left everything else alone. I mean when I do a 360 It jumps like a foot or two up

[@TheDarkstar826]

Miss you

[@dagfpv177]

Oh what a crash... full throttle upside down 🙄 Any damages on the HD cam ?? Thanks for your tuto though ! It helps. It is funny to see you fly rates 0.5 when I set 1.4 lol (certainely cause I am a pincher)

[@ProjectBlueFalcon]

Nah no damage. I hit a rock and it snapped the 3D printed camera mount off and I kept on flying. Landed and noticed the camera was gone. Yea I wish I could pinch. I have to tone everything down to keep it smooth and stable.

[@dagfpv177]

Project Blue Falcon I can give you my advice as I couln't pinch either before and I learnt using DRL simulator. I suggest you spend few hours on simulator to get used to that different way of flying. Honestly I cannot use my thumbs any more 😀 (be aware some people will not appreciate depending on their hands morphology) Happy flying ! and thanks for your share

[@eleftherioskarakostas7191]

did you forget the d setpoint weight or is it gonna be on the next?

[@ProjectBlueFalcon]

I'm just doing the basics first. I'll touch of some of the other features in another video.

[@Bump-mw6vk]

what micro fpv do you recommend for a beginner

[@imager09tube]

using the RC expo. Would it be the same?

[@TransAm2k4]

So it sounds like you lost your go pro but kept flying. Was that the case?? If so nice save. on another note. You were cooking even with the budget build.

[@tobimai4843]

I have a bigger quadcopter which I intend to use for a bit of filming, how can I effectively adjust the PIDs there? (in angle/Horizon, i can't fly this thing in Acro) All tutorials I found are about racecopters with FPV, mine has no FPV Maybe anyone has any tips, thanks

[@josh25fpv9]

Tobimai as far as my understanding of pids goes, they only apply to acro, you can set your maximum angle for angle mode that's about it really

[@ProjectBlueFalcon]

I'm not sure if you can tune the PIDs for angle and horizon. I've never tried. It would be nearly impossible anyway because the flight controller has just as much control as you do instead of giving you full control. One thing you can do is go to the PID tab in Betaflight, click "show all PIDs" at the top right of the screen in a yellow box, then angle and horizon you can set the strength and transition.

[@jeffreyodachowski6247]

So when i hit full yaw is it normal for my qaud to gain altitud? does yours do that ? it revs up really fast at 0 throttle when i hit full yaw to do a 360. so it's like to hard to do a inverted 360

[@ProjectBlueFalcon]

Nope thats not normal. I'm honestly not sure what would cause that, never had that problem before

[@DirtyRobot]

Google yaw jump prevention

[@robbennett]

jeffrey odachowski make sure your thumb is not increasing the throttle. if it is still a problem then lower the rudder I

[@sonarithkh]

i like your explanation, thank you.

[@sonarithkh]

rest in peace

[@josh25fpv9]

So throttle mid is the value of throttle at mid stick?

[@ProjectBlueFalcon]

Throttle mid is where you want the middle of the expo to be. Say you get the mid to .3, then put something in for the expo like .3. Then you'll notice the lines bend on the graph and the center would be at 30%

[@reidbtable]

Great info.

[@josh25fpv9]

What antenna is on the Martian?

[@ProjectBlueFalcon]

Its a Pagoda antenna

[@surfmaxinbama]

well put

[@MrJarrod]

Hi JC are you still with us. I saw another vid that someone said RIP JC?

[@marene76]

JC passed away in a motorcycle accident few months back. RIP JC

[@LoTus-111]

Ha, I'm the 12'000 subscriber ;-) Great Videos Thx for your knowledge sharing

[@dominikkammer2478]

TPA wasn't mentioned.

[@mluiki]

Epic crash - quad must wheeled a 100 meters or so!

[@chrispychickin]

I thiougyth it was just the camera that came off? cos you can hear the quad at the end. and the tumbles seem a little too fast. Ah, i dunno now.

[@ProjectBlueFalcon]

I wish I had video from another angle. I flew inversed and barely touched a rock. It broke the 3d printed camera mount and knocked the camera off but the quad kept flying. Didn't know the camera knocked off until I landed.

[@rl2769]

PLEASE COME BACK TO YOUYUBE!!

[@blackmennewstyle]

He passed away last year sadly :'(

[@seesea9614]

tks！

[@CRAIGBYRD1]

NOT BAD PERFORMANCE FOR set of motors at a staggering price of 26 dollars lol

[@wesp3181]

RIP 😭

[@roberthampton7280]

Hey JC have you checked out the EAGLE TREE MICRO VECTOR FLIGHT CONTROLLER + OSD for $99.95 at RMRC and what makes it a $100. FC Thanks for schooling me {*_*}

[@beanfrankednow5391]

Sunscreen JC

[@akarshanmishra2351]

RIP

[@choppergirl]

My Ice Cream rates - air-war.org/Graphics/Rates_02.jpg High resolution / cinenmatic smooth around the center, a little jpt amd spicey on the edges: I love zooming around Tree Trunks on grassu green golf coures / pastures and fields / english cpimtru gardens. I don't do flippy flops and high hard snap rolls, for me it's all about control. beomg f;patu. and being a smooth criminal.

[@DirtyRobot]

Damn, you are quite conservative. I am at 1650 Degs per second on all axis, no curves. That's on my lowest profile for daily flying.

[@ProjectBlueFalcon]

Its because I'm a thumber. I wish I could pinch but my brain refuses to work that way. I think pinchers have more precision.

[@DirtyRobot]

I thumb too.

[@jmarks3980z]

I suck at tuning!! uuuuuuugh I suck I suck I suck I suck I suck I suck I suck I suck I suck.