Proof That God Does Not Exist

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Lyam Christopher

Lyam Christopher

Күн бұрын

Here, you might begin to notice that the non-existence of God can be quite reassuring. Kind of a paradox, really, but its an important one because it's the backdrop behind all forms of magic, whether they be Kabbalah, theurgy, Tantra, Taoism, shamanism, or witchcraft.
St. Anselm's ontological argument (11th century):
"Even the fool, when he hears of…a being than which nothing greater can be conceived…understands what he hears, and what he understands is in his understanding.… And assuredly that, than which nothing greater can be conceived, cannot exist in the understanding alone. For suppose it exists in the understanding alone: then it can be conceived to exist in reality; which is greater.… Therefore, if that, than which nothing greater can be conceived, exists in the understanding alone, the very being, than which nothing greater can be conceived, is one, than which a greater can be conceived. But obviously this is impossible. Hence, there is no doubt that there exists a being, than which nothing greater can be conceived, and it exists both in the understanding and in reality." 😕
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@lyamchristopher2393
@lyamchristopher2393 5 ай бұрын
Interesting how venturing into the realm of philosophy tends to stir up arguments. When you digest the words, see whether you can let the words go, and then just consider the nonverbal imagery beyond them. And then, of course, there's more to explore, even beyond the imagery.
@lyamchristopher2393
@lyamchristopher2393 5 ай бұрын
Or clinging words. Words misused for the purpose of holding on. @@happyclamguy25
@isaaccardin
@isaaccardin 5 ай бұрын
"Thou art within all things, even as all things are within thee"
@lyamchristopher2393
@lyamchristopher2393 5 ай бұрын
You got it!
@Wanderfill
@Wanderfill 5 ай бұрын
Really enjoying these videos. You often pick subjects that are exactly what I'm thinking about/trying to better understand. Really valuable gems you're tossing out here.
@genghisgalahad8465
@genghisgalahad8465 5 ай бұрын
Gems 💎 before felines! 🐈 😉
@lcotee
@lcotee 5 ай бұрын
Taoism comes to mind. The Real thing is No thing
@miwwie1504
@miwwie1504 10 күн бұрын
I sense that there is an underlying esoteric reason as to why you heart all comments. Is it to keep Love alive to fight against the unconscious madness, so you heart even the negative comments because you try to see the good in all things? Because i feel you. I was suffering from living with a narcissist for a year and i tried my best to love her by buying her a gift one day to get myself to accept that she is still human. I do not rationalize her behavior, this is me looking past all behavior and just trying to see her as a piece of God.
@lyamchristopher2393
@lyamchristopher2393 10 күн бұрын
Your interpretation did occur to me, yes. But the reason for hearting comments is actually quite sinister. To remove them from the "new comments" feed. 👹
@miwwie1504
@miwwie1504 10 күн бұрын
@@lyamchristopher2393 HAHAHAHAH I love you! I did not expect that at all, you threw me off guard with absurdity when I was expecting a logical response!
@critter5248
@critter5248 5 ай бұрын
I sort of wonder if this is like us saying "the phenomenological experience of ultraviolet light doesn't exist" and trying to argue that with an organism that can see ultraviolet light AND can communicate using the same language vocabulary as us. Like, to "us," it (it being "the phenomenological experience of ultraviolet light") will never "stand out" in our mind's environment, effectively "ever," as we possibly lack some "biological receiver" for that sort of sense data. But it does stand out in the mind of something else, that we could conceive we could communicate with using the same vocabulary, right? So in a shared language, isn't it going to be possibly unhelpful to say "God doesn't exist" if people in the language have already given meaning to "God"? And we could ourselves, even possibly lacking a "biological receiver for ultraviolet light," still use tools to communicate using ultraviolet light. Do you have thoughts on that/see where I'm making a mistake in thinking?
@genghisgalahad8465
@genghisgalahad8465 5 ай бұрын
I hew to this articulation on phenomenology. More succinctly than I could have expressed! What you said, essentially!
@lyamchristopher2393
@lyamchristopher2393 5 ай бұрын
Not sure why people are thinking this is about language. Probably because the 11th century English is difficult.
@critter5248
@critter5248 5 ай бұрын
​@@lyamchristopher2393 I'm simply not confident you're making "the best" argument because you're avoiding some nuances of language that actually do matter, as I'd argue. For example. I don't see it as an appropriate translation for "than" to choose "of," as you did at 4:05. I would argue that is actually just an improper translation attempt that creates confusion, because you have misunderstood some subtlety. I don't mean that insultingly - why did you make that transition though? The word "of" appears in the previous remark, I don't see those as being synonymous. Can you defend that without just saying "this old language is hard, this must not mean anything, let me change it?" Like, truly, what do you think you are communicating differently in THAT specific instance? Trying to say language has nothing to do with it is silly. Learning pali/sanskrit words, for example, was extremely valuable to my education. I'm always fine with some esoteric "don't [[think]] about [[[language]]]" or whatever coding you want to add to make a point, but we are communicating right now using . . . language, and it's important to address that IF I feel your title is an incorrect conclusion, I would have to use language to argue that.
@lyamchristopher2393
@lyamchristopher2393 5 ай бұрын
Seeing past the language is the important part. If there is something to point out past the language, let's look at that. What kind of reality are you looking at?@@critter5248
@Geoffr524
@Geoffr524 15 сағат бұрын
As far as I have learned in my 64 years, is that FATHER (God), exists outside of space and time. November 2021 I heard a voice say "You are forgetting about me, I am the FATHER".
@lyamchristopher2393
@lyamchristopher2393 8 сағат бұрын
In Kabbalah, both are true and not true. Divinity reside both within and beyond the universe. Both immanent and transcendence. And at the same time neither immanent nor transcendent. 😬
@Di-bn9hz
@Di-bn9hz 5 ай бұрын
The things riffing in my head while listening to this: If this proves that God does not exist, define the word existing? Can we even fathom what it would mean for something we call "God" to "exist ? And another thought: surely some things can exist without us having the slightlest inkling that they exist. Things that can exist and of which we could not even perceive the smallest part? They would completely transcend our limited perceptions and thinking or imagination. Edited to add: as in, those things would seem not to exist "to us" but they may exist to some mind which would be more potent than ours. Our limited minds cannot be the measure by which we know for sure whether something exists or doesn't exist in an absolute manner. 😅 thanks for reading!
@lyamchristopher2393
@lyamchristopher2393 5 ай бұрын
I did define "exist" in the video. In phenomenological terms. There's no fuss here. You're simply sensing the reassuring aspect behind my scary scenario of "Oh my God, there's no God!" The manner in which I show that God does not exist still seems to put Him out there as greater than anything in existence. So great that He transcends existence itself. You appear to be stepping outside of phenomenology into metaphysics. That's all well and good, but you won't be able to prove the existence of anything in a metaphysical framework. To prove something exists, you need a phenomenological mode of apprehension.
@Di-bn9hz
@Di-bn9hz 5 ай бұрын
@@lyamchristopher2393 Agreed. This doesn't prove anything either way. This was the point I was trying to make, in response to the provocative choice of title. I don't have a particular opinion on the subject so I have nothing to affirm or defend, just merely discussing.
@lyamchristopher2393
@lyamchristopher2393 5 ай бұрын
@@Di-bn9hz "Agreed"? Reaching agreement is not required in order to experience value. In fact, I'd say it eclipses most of the value in an experience. I'd suggest dispensing with agreeing for a while. See how things look beyond that. We might just find ourselves crossing the abyss.
@easternstar
@easternstar 12 күн бұрын
Qhat an interestig dialogue.
@ZadenMershonFitnessJourney
@ZadenMershonFitnessJourney Ай бұрын
If there is a stage, what is its use but for a play. And if there is a play of the whole universe, who could write it but God? He is greater than all, as the stage does exist for if it did not, where could the play be?
@fraterzigmund
@fraterzigmund 5 ай бұрын
This reminds me of the Platonic distinction between Being and Becoming, the Eternal and the Manifest
@Emilio77733
@Emilio77733 5 ай бұрын
With a title like that this will probably be your most "successful" KZbin video to date! As always absolutely amazing video
@wendilandkammer8368
@wendilandkammer8368 5 ай бұрын
Language becomes the barrier in the argument. If all words that exist that are God in any language are removed, this argument seems to say, if I'm understanding the argument, is that God can't and doesn't exist because the name or the identifier doesn't exist. That completely throws out the reality that knowledge of a thing or a something can exist with out any language to describe it. Language is not required to validate reality.
@lyamchristopher2393
@lyamchristopher2393 5 ай бұрын
The mind can still objectify reality without language. As in when a dog decides that there’s a threat outside. But yes, language makes objectification easier.
@jeffwhatley2634
@jeffwhatley2634 5 ай бұрын
Language doesn't "technically exist" as an object. These words I type are ciphers. In your mind, these words have a "voice". Language originates, and ends, with sound. Can you hear the sound through the noise? God Created the languages. If God did not Create the languages, then God does not exist. The existence of God is not dependent on language. All "arguments" fail to produce God. God is ALL Encompassing. God Created EVERYTHING, yet God IS No-thing. God is not a thing. God Created ALL things. To conceive of God is terms of things is pursue God though IDOLS. God is essentially a PARADOX. Holy books, diagrams, symbols, and rituals will not produce God. God remains Hidden. Paradoxically, God is OBVIOUS. IF you have FAITH. To have faith...follow Jesus. Jesus is the standard-bearer. Follow him. Jesus is a Prophet. Moses is a Prophet. Abraham is a Prophet. The "holy" books are stories of faith and LOVE. God IS Love, after all. If God is not Love, then why bother with God? God's Nature is Infinitely Perfect Love. There is no "Higher Power". There is ONLY God. That is how "infinity" works... It sorta expands until it takes over. God is on the move...constantly. Putting the air into your lungs. Until He decides that your next breath is your last... ...then... ....you leave this world of meat-suits. There is a zipper in the back of yours. God knows how it works. The meat-suit. A world of meat and meat products. God Created it. I just temporarily reside here. Quite a mess. Isn't it? vaya con Dios. @@lyamchristopher2393
@burtjames2986
@burtjames2986 2 ай бұрын
​@@jeffwhatley2634 There's Alot of truth in that statement
@PickleRick65
@PickleRick65 4 ай бұрын
Negative existence reminds me of "primordial chaos" (for lack of a better word) and the order out of chaos is the universe... (this also reminds me of freshmen philosophy in college where your eyes glaze over as you're trying to grasp it)😆
@lyamchristopher2393
@lyamchristopher2393 4 ай бұрын
Yes, chaos to the uninitiated is craziness. To the initiate, it is simply formlessness.
@Hastenforthedawm
@Hastenforthedawm 26 күн бұрын
Chaoskamph is the term
@martynrawlins8050
@martynrawlins8050 5 ай бұрын
I'm not but if I was God I wouldn't be able to stop laughing at this video. Your book the Art of Self Transformation was interesting. The secret to life though is being happy. Once you're through the abyss there is only the Self and nothing else. This scares the crap out of the unwary arrogant ego and can bring madness. Cheers. Keep up the Great Work.😂
@alephmale3171
@alephmale3171 14 күн бұрын
I think I get what you’re saying here, but I think it’s a linguistic distinction. In fact, how one characterizes the “white space” of the page, the Turiya, may distinguish the East and West. I think for the West, including Anselm’s Christian monastic perspective, which may differ from normal, exoteric Christianity, would prefer to say that God alone exists and that all other appearances do not; ‘that God be true and all men liars.’ So, for Anselm, in the very terms you use here, it is a proof of God’s existence, even in the meta-scriptural, meta-historical sense that might be available to monastics with direct experience, while, in Eastern Terms, they might root “God” in an infinitely mysterious, yet generative negation.
@kobalt77
@kobalt77 Ай бұрын
Thank you so much Lyam. I love your videos and presentation style. Peace Profound.
@genghisgalahad8465
@genghisgalahad8465 5 ай бұрын
Hmmmm, I do think that the traditional historical conceptualization is what does not exist by virtue of its limited often Eurocentric scope. It's not so much the existence I question and it isn't that I question the existence, it's the framing of the argument in the first place that I question. (Geoffrey Chaucer of the Canterbury Tales!) In fact, I do think that most western self-identified "atheists" or "agnostics" are actually through and through Christian, as that particular paradigm is what they base their opposition on, not opposition in the way of adversarial stance, but in the questioning of the existence of a Being in itself. They don't know what to do with, say, Buddhism, because its paradigm exists outside of Western religious conceptualization. The closest paradigm might be the Jewish thought on emanation. A tangential question would be existence after death, the being of Christ, reincarnation, and whether the universe had a beginning, to begin with... wouldn't the Void be a kind of existence, if it's negative, since it inherently has a polarity, and is a gauntlet key to the life of a magician, in addition to the traditional "Knowledge and Conversation of the HGA"? Wouldn't the definition of Divinity, capital "D", be the working definition of God. There is no nothing that comes from something. In a way, nothing comes nothing? It's neither invented nor perhaps preexisting to a predestined creation of time. Being simply is and will be what being will be. And not inherently set in stone and in time. And not outside of creation but creation itself...will replay this episode more intently and see if my musings/rantings off the bat from the hip still resonate! Here. We. Go. 🎉 🌌 🪽
@genghisgalahad8465
@genghisgalahad8465 5 ай бұрын
Although I might keenly fundamentally misunderstand it, I forgot to explicitly mention above one of the keys to the life of the magician, as I've picked up, from Damien Echols actually, is "Crossing the Abyss" (perhaps akin to a numinous Void?), and also wanted to add that the common conception of God is not only Eurocentric but also anthropocentric (?)/ anthropic (kind of the reverse adage "...made in our image" at the risk of heretical thinking), albeit a key component that is Christ Consciousness and its presence/influence in esoteric milieu or thought... which goes with the Buddha heart, and let's add the wisdom of Thoth who is Hermes Trismegistus...
@ParanormalHorrorArtist
@ParanormalHorrorArtist 4 сағат бұрын
I love Saint Anselms argument. I have it on my fridge, no joking😊
@johnpaulcolthrust8207
@johnpaulcolthrust8207 Ай бұрын
Point of language: “than” is still used in precisely the way that Anselm used it. The “than” goes with “greater” as in “greater than”. English syntax is very flexible in word order e.g. Master Yoda: “Around the survivors a perimeter create”.
@lyamchristopher2393
@lyamchristopher2393 Ай бұрын
Among the highly educated, yes. I'm not that much of a scholar, as you can tell.
@joshuachristopher8138
@joshuachristopher8138 5 ай бұрын
Hi Liam, I love the videos you have put out here! I'm wondering how I could practice vibrating the names in the LBRP and Middle Pillar in silence. I live with other people and I don't want them to hear anything when performing the ritual.
@lyamchristopher2393
@lyamchristopher2393 5 ай бұрын
I recommend adopting a stance of confidence and telling them that you’re going to be practicing “mantras” or chanting as part of a meditation regimen. Work out times of day when it’s acceptable.If they get jealous or dismissive, that becomes their problem. Not yours.
@lyamchristopher2393
@lyamchristopher2393 5 ай бұрын
You are up against conformity and self-esteem issues here, most likely. Push through diplomatically.
@lyamchristopher2393
@lyamchristopher2393 5 ай бұрын
If they cannot relax and adapt, get away from them.
@lyamchristopher2393
@lyamchristopher2393 5 ай бұрын
If they ask for details, just tell them it’s private. Once again, with calmness and confidence.
@Lund-kl1vh
@Lund-kl1vh 5 ай бұрын
They always interrupt every single time in the middle of my ritual there is always an interruption that dissolves my focus and it's stuck on a loop cycle that I need to get away from but they are my loved ones and it's creating a divisiveness that is ! Mentioned explicitly in the gospels. It's creating a dangerously harmful dialectic and a hostile environment for me
@brandonroberts13
@brandonroberts13 25 күн бұрын
What you give, you get. God gave all, thus gained all.
@BabaJeez
@BabaJeez 19 күн бұрын
Why use a phenomenological definition of existence? Just seems like a semantic game. I also feel like your conceptualization of Kether is recognizing the Alpha (infinite potential) beyond the void, but not the Omega (infinite experience). I wonder if you’ve encountered Philip Langdon’s channel. He explains that God “exists” in contrast to the illusion of duality, which is basically why the illusion “exists” at all, to be a contrast to God, so Love can know Himself. In other words, only God (our true self) truly exists, beyond the illusion of time, space, and polarity. This turns the phenomenological definition of existence on its head. 😊🙏
@lyamchristopher2393
@lyamchristopher2393 18 күн бұрын
Not really. To use the term "exist" in a non-phenomenological way simply disregards the phenomenological way of seeing. Nothing gets turned on its head. To transcend a framework does not necessarily invalidate it.
@Jasen-M74
@Jasen-M74 2 ай бұрын
LOL. The stuff nightmares are made of. I enjoy your shows, man. -J.
@isaaccardin
@isaaccardin 5 ай бұрын
Not sure if you already planned your videos in advance, but I would really interested to hear more about astral travel, skrying, and tattwa's. I noticed in talking with some other practitioners that in their curriculum skrying and tattwas are included but in your book it isn't really mentioned.
@lyamchristopher2393
@lyamchristopher2393 5 ай бұрын
Soon. Astral travel can develop naturally as the forms around oneself de-reify. A result of years of intensive pentagram rituals, pore-breathing, tarot, and journal entries.
@IAMLiamwalker4444
@IAMLiamwalker4444 5 ай бұрын
God is is-ness itSelf, Existence itSelf. Not just a limited form that exists for a period of time. Not arising, not persisting, and nor dissolving. But simply Being Changelessly Being Being itSelf❤
@GenXSpiritWarrior
@GenXSpiritWarrior 3 ай бұрын
If everything is ultimately One Thing. God, Man, Earth, Moon, Stars, Universe, One Thing. Then could humans be the conscious mind of god and what we perceive as god's mysterious nature is just our perception of god's unconscious mind. Could the collective consciousness, of not just man but every living thing be something like the totality of the mind of god? When we do magick and communicate with spirits, animal totems, gods, entities, demons, etc. are we actually chatting with characters in god's subconscious mind?
@jakesmith3920
@jakesmith3920 9 күн бұрын
Don't know if you will reply to this after all this time but about 6 weeks ago I watched your video of vibrating the names in ritual and I concentrated on that and then started to have regular panic attacks for about a month. Thinking I don't exist and I'm going to die. I solved it with some anxiety videos and forcing myself into situations I feared. But every now and then it seems like I'm watching a movie of reality. Is there any grounding ritual that I could use to prevent it from occurring and interfering with regular life.
@lyamchristopher2393
@lyamchristopher2393 9 күн бұрын
You might try the Wim Hof breathing technique. It can help recondition the stress response. Panic attacks can also be the result of a nutritional deficiency. Magnesium? Or more likely, vitamin B1. Too much sugar in the diet?
@jakesmith3920
@jakesmith3920 9 күн бұрын
@@lyamchristopher2393 I went to the A&E and they checked heart liver kidney and blood test and said nothing is wrong with me. So I don't think it's a deficiency cause my diet is really good I think. But I will try the wim off method I used to do it years ago. But stopped because of laziness. Also don't know if it's a coincidence but I was just watching your video on six breathing techniques and was at the end (wim off method) when you messaged me. Thanks for the message. Wish you all the best
@lyamchristopher2393
@lyamchristopher2393 9 күн бұрын
@@jakesmith3920 "Laziness" might result from poor mitochondrial health. The mitochondria produce energy.
@jakesmith3920
@jakesmith3920 8 күн бұрын
@@lyamchristopher2393 hmm I will look into that. It could be possible. I always thought It was a psychological issue. My fear of death was brought out which made me feel panic and light headed
@lyamchristopher2393
@lyamchristopher2393 8 күн бұрын
@@jakesmith3920 Labeling fear as psychological doesn't help very much, does it? Unless we set the the psyche free from psychology.
@miwwie1504
@miwwie1504 10 күн бұрын
How are you this... Good? Did you suffer a lot in life? I suffer a lot and I don't know if that's the reason I'm more spiritually opened and "enlightened" to a degree. I don't want to suffer, but it feels like pain is the path needed to be taken to become free in the end. It seems counterintuitive, why is the path to freedom carved in pain? That's how I've been experiencing it my entire life.
@lyamchristopher2393
@lyamchristopher2393 10 күн бұрын
This sounds like an interesting conversation in the making. Somehow, Christianity strikes a chord with people who insist that suffering is redemptive. I have never seen it that way. Redemption is redemptive. Suffering is a needless add-on. Confronting one's demons can be adventurous. Even flirtatious. Lots of foreplay and suspense in it.
@miwwie1504
@miwwie1504 10 күн бұрын
@@lyamchristopher2393 Ah I see. I'm actually not a Christian, I have just had a very hard time forgiving what my seemingly loving and close ones do to me and I don't feel a lot like it's fun to confront demons, last time I did Shadow work I ended up crying like that scene from Good Will Hunting where Will realized "it's not your fault". That was maybe the second time ever in my life (the first time being when I was a kid) that I felt the presence of Jesus in my Tiferet center. Again, I'm not Christian, but it was intense and I use Jesus symbolically here as you already know lol
@darkrarehunter
@darkrarehunter 5 ай бұрын
Saint Anselm wrote in Latin, so the works you're reading are translations. Chaucer's always presented in middle English because it's deeply embedded in the English literary canon. The same reason you don't present nofear Shakespeare as "official" Shakespeare.
@lyamchristopher2393
@lyamchristopher2393 5 ай бұрын
Aha. Thanks! So we are dealing with a translation. Probably one that’s rendered in the English usages of the 19th or early 20th century. Just saw “than” used the same way in a short story written in the 1920s. “Than” can still be used that way today, but that usage is fading.
@theomniscientvoid9553
@theomniscientvoid9553 5 ай бұрын
Hey Lyam. I'm just wondering how much one of your consulting sessions would be. I've been encountering some issues for some time now with certain aspects and would love to speak to someone knowledgeable on these matters. I tried to find a more direct way of messaging you on here if the details are private, but as of now the only way to contact you that I see is through comments. Thanks in advance.
@lyamchristopher2393
@lyamchristopher2393 5 ай бұрын
You can message me through the Twitter account. Thanks for the heads-up about that. I’ll put the Twitter handle in that statement.
@lyamchristopher2393
@lyamchristopher2393 5 ай бұрын
Sounds interesting. A consultation is $50 for the hour. We meet via Zoom. The bill arrives via email, so an email address is needed.
@satoshisaito842
@satoshisaito842 5 ай бұрын
the fear of disappearing is too great in me, I have already passed the veil a few times (each time with great fear followed by everlasting bless), even though I'm aware that it's only an illusion, but still, fear exists in me and I don't know what to do about it. I guess that's just the way it is though, and the lesson here is not to be affected by fear and go pass through it... I guess??
@lyamchristopher2393
@lyamchristopher2393 5 ай бұрын
How do you suppose that fear has developed?
@francofiori926
@francofiori926 5 ай бұрын
Fear takes to the Dark Side of the Force
@satoshisaito842
@satoshisaito842 5 ай бұрын
@@lyamchristopher2393 hmmm I see what you mean, I should meditate on that.
@burtjames2986
@burtjames2986 2 ай бұрын
All of it is real mon of that is illusion no more than your life is illusion which it is.... Amen GOD bless you 🙏❤️
@jamesarnold9264
@jamesarnold9264 5 ай бұрын
In Orthodox Christianity, we learn that we can know God by his energy, not his essence. Something like that. Seems related.
@lyamchristopher2393
@lyamchristopher2393 5 ай бұрын
Interesting!
@burtjames2986
@burtjames2986 2 ай бұрын
You can yalk to Jesus the Christ consciousness from inside your heart like a universal telephone to him and GOD.....i promise you just read thenbible you have to be quiet amd ask GOD to come into your heart with the utmost faith for it show up where you can see IT.....Amen GOD bless you 🙏❤️
@THE-ERADICATOR
@THE-ERADICATOR 3 ай бұрын
He is given credit because buddha and devil worshipped krishna! Duh
@oldpondfrog788
@oldpondfrog788 3 ай бұрын
Essence entails existence. Interesting take on the old topic as a jumping off point.
@nicksmith-chandler458
@nicksmith-chandler458 3 ай бұрын
Is it possible that all the archangels and angels and daimons are Yaldabaoths creation. And that they are limited in their power because they were created incompletely? Where does that leave us in our practice? Many Thanks
@lyamchristopher2393
@lyamchristopher2393 3 ай бұрын
There's plenty of room in Golden Dawn magic for Gnostic mythology. You might want to consider the most recent video (the one about removing Enochian magic) in which I share the difference between the tetragrammaton and the pentagrammaton. The Christian kabbalists thought they had solved the problem of the "evil" Old Testament version of God.
@pameti.dragoblago
@pameti.dragoblago 3 ай бұрын
hehehe... this 'gels' with me also, quite well, as after reading a bit about magick, kabala, hinduism, demonology and such, and accepting non-duality as a valid option, i figured, i'm still an atheist. what people refer to as 'God' - i call nature. [p.s i have scientific/engineering background, don't know much about spirituality in general - nor philosophy for that matter; when i listen to certain lectures on hinduism, the more they explain certain concepts - the more i get confused. at the end of the lecture i don't know what the original question was. if those concepts were presented in bullet-point form, it would all be perfectly clear.]
@travissimpson7829
@travissimpson7829 2 ай бұрын
The double slit experiment and the delayed choice quantum eraser experiment proves a conscious intelligence that creates our universe does exist
@THE-ERADICATOR
@THE-ERADICATOR 3 ай бұрын
I think will find that hearing this argument MAY be annoying, i take Adderall for adhd, (i did take it today)without my anxiety medication i get easily testies.
@lyamchristopher2393
@lyamchristopher2393 3 ай бұрын
Forgive the clickbait title. 🙏 (And note its effectiveness at provoking a response. You've been poked.)
@fraterahava
@fraterahava 5 ай бұрын
Great video lyam, do you have an explanation why most pessemistic and nhilistic arguments are hard to argue with and more based than optimistic arguments? I consider myself less polarized and still i find most optimistic thoughts as half thought's, or less honest in nature, ive read the books the conspiracy against the human race by tomas legotti, and david benatars better never to have been and honestly they present arguments that are impossible to argue with.. intrested in your perspective.. have you ever heard about those guys? Professor benatar is more famous, i think he had a debate with jordan Peterson on KZbin and honestly he kind of destroyed him
@lyamchristopher2393
@lyamchristopher2393 5 ай бұрын
Notice how I only venture into metaphysics when there is a practical use for it (in this case, to place Negative Existence in the background "behind" the context of ritual). What good does it do to speculate on the morality of bringing children into the world when one has already been born? The blood is already being spilt. The wound is already open. The pain is throbbing NOW. The problem of our liberation lies before us NOW. As the Buddha once said, "Suppose a man is struck by a poisoned arrow and the doctor wishes to take out the arrow immediately. Suppose the man does not want the arrow removed until he knows who shot it, his age, his parents, and why he shot it. What would happen? If he were to wait until all these questions have been answered, the man might die first." Life is too short for that. It must not be spent in metaphysical speculation that does not bring us any closer to the relinquishment of suffering. Two images come to mind. (1) The pelican picking at its own breast to feed its chicks (the universe "harming" itself to perpetuate a drama of endless suffering). Reminds me of Munchausen by proxy syndrome, in which a mother harms her own child to trigger her own (pleasurable) mothering instinct into action. (2) Atum touching himself and masturbating the universe into existence (the universe as ecstasy). The madness, the suffering, and the pleasure of these scenarios has already arisen. There's no sense crying about them now, unless we want to perpetuate the unconsciousness of being caught up in them. "To be or not to be"--is THAT the question? The idea in this channel, of course, is that the apparent suffering can end while one is alive. Rather than retreat back into unmanifestation, why not explore whether suffering can be relinquished while still incarnate? Should we look back at "God" and say "How dare You do this to me!" Or do we look forward and ask, "What are You trying to show me?"
@fraterahava
@fraterahava 5 ай бұрын
@@lyamchristopher2393 i agree with your approach, but in the example you gave with the poisoned arrow, if you have been poisoned, the logical conclusion is not to harm someone else (in this case shooting a being into existence) or taking a risk on another person that is not on you to suffer, bringing a child is a form of Russian roulette in my eyes
@lyamchristopher2393
@lyamchristopher2393 5 ай бұрын
I sympathize with what it feels like to watch adults pleasure themselves through parenthood. On one level, they appear to have children for selfish reasons, just to trigger their own happy-happy-joy-joy mommy/daddy instincts. But that's only one way of looking at it. When a mother bear nuzzles her cubs, is that nothing but a stupid, unconscious animal instinct? Is true love something "pure," above and beyond that kind of nonsense? Or rather, is it our notion of a pure and transcendental love that's the real stupidity? @@fraterahava
@fraterahava
@fraterahava 5 ай бұрын
@@lyamchristopher2393 i dont think its love like humans define love, its mammal instinct, just like rats will eat their own kids if it will help them survive, having kids for humans is totally selfish, i really can't think of a reason that is not selfish or self serving to have a child as a human, if you say its totally biological or evolutionary need thats fair but so is war, conflict and even rape.. if you have developed consciousness you can understand what is wrong with this.. i remember when i was a little kid i asked my mother if she whould still love me if i was the neighbors kids but still the same kid and she got mad at me because obviously the answer is no.. if a person wants to be a mother or father he can always adopt there is no ethical problem with that, but they only want biological kids for selfish reasons it's as far away from true love as you can get, its a good survival instinct but nothing more..
@JungianMuslim
@JungianMuslim 4 ай бұрын
using your logic, i can prove the nonexistence of you as well. unsubscribed.
@THE-ERADICATOR
@THE-ERADICATOR 3 ай бұрын
Is this how you keep the chicks? Lol, yeah, right bro!
@isaaccardin
@isaaccardin 5 ай бұрын
So we are basically bringing the background into the foreground and turning ourselves inside out lol
@lyamchristopher2393
@lyamchristopher2393 5 ай бұрын
Ha! The Hanged Man. Topsy-turvy/inside-out.
@callumclarke1733
@callumclarke1733 Ай бұрын
I Defene atheism is those Who Pretend God does not Exist it's a sudo-intellect a false intellect.
@THE-ERADICATOR
@THE-ERADICATOR 3 ай бұрын
What if i imagine myself bigger than god dingdong!?
@geoffhardy3420
@geoffhardy3420 4 ай бұрын
Forget it I am not their yet lol. Ok . The problem is the dualism that you spoke of. Whether you think of a Higher Self or God you are really talking about the same thing. For their to be a Higher Self there must be by necessity be a God! There must be a source a singularity point. This is what I find LOST IN CHRISTIANITY. It's their but just not really explored in the mainstream because of the misplaced idea that separation somehow exists. It is a common thread in mystical Christianty the idea of oneness or unity with the divine. This is summed up in the old Christian mantra God became man that man might become God. They held back on that one because the scriptures and Jesus himself says that "I pray that be one as we are one." So if it makes people more empowered to think of God as there Higher self than great. The problem is when you reach the end of yourself or even your Higher self then what? I see no problem with this. The response would be there is no end? Now these arguments get turned on the Higher self! So for there to be one there must be by necessity two or many! My Christian brothers and sisters would have my hide for saying that but for sake of argument the statement remains. I personally believe that God is very real. He( sex is irrelevant) is the force that permiates all things and that force is best described as Love. Love is the evidence of God! Its very simple for love to exist there must be a God. For you to feel love alone there has to be a God. Sure you could say that there are a myriad of beings that are unseen but where do they get it from? So I find it amusing that the same argument used to destroy is the same argument used to build up! As above so below so the very idea that logic can be used to refute God and simultaneously used to prove the existence of God is by itself all the proof you need. Love what you do man, God bless and more power to you in your work.
@lyamchristopher2393
@lyamchristopher2393 4 ай бұрын
You might try reading some Meister Eckhart or some Saint Theresa of Avila. Also, Saint John of the Cross. I love the Christian “heretics.”
@MateuszZimniak
@MateuszZimniak 5 ай бұрын
Maybe it would be cool idea to start online group for practicing people on WhatsApp or something? What are your thoughts Lyam? Cheers
@lyamchristopher2393
@lyamchristopher2393 5 ай бұрын
Sounds great!
@rlndnr
@rlndnr Ай бұрын
By “ontological” they mean circular.
@lyamchristopher2393
@lyamchristopher2393 Ай бұрын
"Circular" implies that we are stuck on a merry-go-round, and that can very well become the case. But it need not be. The ontological argument for the "existence" of God is a special case. Is it logically sound? No, not really. But it does point out "something" behind that very process of our reasoning. That "something" cannot be proved--because it is itself the very support for the reasoning process. We try to point out the truth only to find that the pointing out process is, itself, a manifestation of the truth.
@IAMLiamwalker4444
@IAMLiamwalker4444 5 ай бұрын
Beyond All Polarities God is❤ Ps:Great clickbait Title😂
@lyamchristopher2393
@lyamchristopher2393 5 ай бұрын
😄
@lyamchristopher2393
@lyamchristopher2393 5 ай бұрын
😄
@samohtra1
@samohtra1 Ай бұрын
Confusing, convoluted word salad a cut above the insanity ofJordan Peterson.
@Beanmachine91
@Beanmachine91 5 ай бұрын
your fantasy of the universe being created out of nothinge by no one is also sounding like a fairy tale
@lyamchristopher2393
@lyamchristopher2393 5 ай бұрын
As does the Big Bang theory.
@michaelmessenger5742
@michaelmessenger5742 Ай бұрын
More theories & mere human guess work No human being is all knowing None can say whether he's true or not
@geoffhardy3420
@geoffhardy3420 4 ай бұрын
I resisting commenting Lyam😅
@intolerableHistories
@intolerableHistories 3 ай бұрын
😂 it's 100% impossible to disprove God. Oh, you are releying on other people's ideas, I don't listen to anyone's mumbojumbo, I work stuff out for myself.
@bricktea3645
@bricktea3645 2 ай бұрын
God will eventually come to u as u work stuff out in ur life?
@Thefreequincy
@Thefreequincy 5 ай бұрын
Powerful content
@Briand-ei1gs
@Briand-ei1gs 5 ай бұрын
Haha a negative cannot be proven
@lyamchristopher2393
@lyamchristopher2393 5 ай бұрын
Did it ever need to be proved in the first place? Might be worth it to look at our need for proof. How does THAT arise?
@THE-ERADICATOR
@THE-ERADICATOR 3 ай бұрын
Snort, what ever.
@redwoodforlife
@redwoodforlife 5 ай бұрын
The nothing 🙏🏽💕
@genghisgalahad8465
@genghisgalahad8465 5 ай бұрын
Artax!!!!
@im1337ninja
@im1337ninja 5 ай бұрын
God is the universe, and you exist within it. Not going to watch this video. Go buy real headsets. No one in their right mind would wear those. 😂
@lyamchristopher2393
@lyamchristopher2393 5 ай бұрын
You didn't fall for that click-baity title? 😭😉
@im1337ninja
@im1337ninja 5 ай бұрын
@lyamchristopher2393 I usually read titles and decide if I want to watch it or comment on it based upon topics usually within specific fields of knowledge or beliefs. I knew the title/ thumbnail was click baity. However listening to views I don't relate with or follow isn't my cup of tea. I sometimes post comments to help increase or change perceptive views on said topic. (If the poster reads them) don't assume I have an inflated ego for I do accept knowledge and perceptive views of others usually within the spectrum of self growth and perceptive insight.
@MateuszZimniak
@MateuszZimniak 5 ай бұрын
No one in their right mind would judge a book by its cover.
@im1337ninja
@im1337ninja 5 ай бұрын
@user-pe9lz6qd9g cassette styled headsets were out dated the day over ear headsets became a thing. Almost all of them have lousy single driver based speakers with L/R (mono) outputs, bad for music and only viable for chatting. It's not judging a book by it's cover, it's stating that they're the worse headsets you can possibly buy, even in ear styled earphones (can) have multiple driver speakers and some are used for audio engineering (making even in ears better) Not saying single driver speakers are always bad, just outclassed by more modern day purchasable headsets. The joke of the statement I stated was rather deep in perspective of what I've mentioned above. As for the title (if that's what you was referring to) I already explained myself. Maybe you can try a different perspective based upon assuming I'm judging said book.
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