Boxing Has A Major Drug Problem (obviously)

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Propa Boxing

Propa Boxing

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@0BN02
@0BN02 5 ай бұрын
There was a massive drug problem in the men’s toilets at Selhurst Park on Saturday . I couldn’t get into the traps to let one loose because the queue to do shovel was too long
@-xirx-
@-xirx- 5 ай бұрын
People should be multitasking and combining the two past-times. White in one end, brown out the other
@seemymobot4987
@seemymobot4987 5 ай бұрын
​@@-xirx-😂😂😂😂
@ibrahim-sj2cr
@ibrahim-sj2cr 5 ай бұрын
@@-xirx- totally... if you take a dump facing backwards you can use the cistern as a nose candy station
@akasilkyslim
@akasilkyslim 5 ай бұрын
"The queue to do shovel" 😂😂
@evilelf5967
@evilelf5967 5 ай бұрын
fookin hysterical that mate!!!
@happyChappy96621
@happyChappy96621 5 ай бұрын
Let’s be fair, there’s a huge PED problem in sport in general right now. The olympics are just around the corner and let’s see how many athletes get popped for PEDs before, during and after the games.
@lovebitesandrazorblades
@lovebitesandrazorblades 5 ай бұрын
PEDS aren’t that big of a deal in sports where you aren’t in grave, prolonged, physical danger
@anthonyharty1732
@anthonyharty1732 5 ай бұрын
Unfortunately not many will be caught. Athletes are way ahead of the Testers. The two main drugs they are using are EPO and Growth Hormone, they are still extremely difficult to detect taken in the right doses. ALL! the top Sprinters are on them. Especially the women, times and records are being annihilated by them recently. They have found the magic undetectable formula. 😡
@greenskyline2889
@greenskyline2889 5 ай бұрын
@@lovebitesandrazorblades agree, the consequences are just so much bigger in combat
@asburycollins9182
@asburycollins9182 5 ай бұрын
If people are willing to take peds to look good on Instagram they sure as shit are gonna do it for an olympic medal or a million dollars. The people who believe otherwise are naive imo.
@asburycollins9182
@asburycollins9182 5 ай бұрын
​@@greenskyline2889very true its arguably alot worse. Someone could die bc of it
@dunaldiX
@dunaldiX 5 ай бұрын
Rules and laws don't apply to you if you got shitloads of money
@budthechud9795
@budthechud9795 5 ай бұрын
Never take a pony away from home geezer
@markchapman2585
@markchapman2585 5 ай бұрын
Say that to Weinstein
@mrgrandi
@mrgrandi 5 ай бұрын
"Different strokes for different folks" unfortunately the rules don't apply to favored fighters or A-listers
@woahblackbettybamalam
@woahblackbettybamalam 5 ай бұрын
Plutocracy
@Floydric
@Floydric 5 ай бұрын
​​@@markchapman2585That comparison was terrible, Weinstein got caught sexually assaulting and black mailing women, these guys are cheating and putting other people's lives in danger. Big companies turn a blind eye to their cash cow until it affects their bottom line. Heck if u wanna use Weinstein, that fact is a better comparison because he was doing it for years until more people spoke up and it put a bad light on the industry, and that's why he got arrested. Why do u think Connor gets a away with so much, the closest he came to losing everything was the bus incident but he played ball in order to not piss off the UFC and all of his sponsors. He didn't do it for morals
@M.Alexander.Esq.
@M.Alexander.Esq. 5 ай бұрын
Spot on. Failed test: no pay. Enforce that: boxing becomes the cleanest sport on the planet over night.
@tentringer4065
@tentringer4065 5 ай бұрын
The problem is that only works with decent regulation.
@ozkaa
@ozkaa 5 ай бұрын
This won't make a spot of difference. Athletes will always use PEDs to get an advantage at the highest level.
@lewisgreenhalgh7546
@lewisgreenhalgh7546 5 ай бұрын
Boxing is the dirtiest sport. We still have fight fixing at the highest level.
@stevedonner7387
@stevedonner7387 5 ай бұрын
@Yiealo6372jd He has 100% took them in the past. He would of messed up his Endocrine System in the process. I bet he is on "low" doses of Test these days.
@Umar-gw6fy
@Umar-gw6fy 5 ай бұрын
They’ll still cheat but smarter
@eol6632
@eol6632 5 ай бұрын
(Boxing has a major drug problem) file that one under the biggest fucking understatement since 1975.
@FreeIreland
@FreeIreland 5 ай бұрын
With the amount of money involved it should be considered fraud..
@lewiskeeffe8649
@lewiskeeffe8649 5 ай бұрын
Start a steds league in international waters.
@nicolasrose3064
@nicolasrose3064 5 ай бұрын
Stoned and drunk Crowds watching two doped up Fighters managed by Coked out Promoters....where exactly is this "fraud" occuring...?
@jazzanon3230
@jazzanon3230 5 ай бұрын
That would be tasty af​@@lewiskeeffe8649
@BuJammy
@BuJammy 5 ай бұрын
@@lewiskeeffe8649 I like it. And, we'll have monkey knife fighting at half time.
@BeezusFafoon1971
@BeezusFafoon1971 5 ай бұрын
The only thing that's changed is that the tests are more rigorous and accurate. That's why more names pop up than years ago.
@Notpoop906
@Notpoop906 5 ай бұрын
that's not the only thing thats changed. there's new drugs too.
@unkonwn5390
@unkonwn5390 5 ай бұрын
the half lives of these new peds is much much shorter
@rowdyghost4713
@rowdyghost4713 5 ай бұрын
⁠@@unkonwn5390it’s not the half life you worry about. Thats why people are getting caught. A drug can have a short half life, the metabolites can stay in your system for so long. And that’s what’s getting people caught.
@DMD82
@DMD82 5 ай бұрын
More rigorous yes,, longer suspensions no, it's ridiculous!
@tomround8271
@tomround8271 5 ай бұрын
No hair follicle test🤷‍♂️
@sirmuffincat6630
@sirmuffincat6630 5 ай бұрын
Gear is so ridiculously common these days that I guarantee that even your local high school (American) football team has at least a few users. I've seen it many times before. It's basically a pandemic at this point. -Can't wait- Expect to see the heart failure numbers surge in the coming years.
@ChrisA2
@ChrisA2 5 ай бұрын
Erm I think I CAN wait for that? Damn not so cynical pls
@jamesmitchellh
@jamesmitchellh 5 ай бұрын
@@ChrisA2 aahahaha yeah wtf that's a bit strong
@notyourdamnbusiness8795
@notyourdamnbusiness8795 5 ай бұрын
arent we already kinda seeing that? "well....he got vaccinated" "yeah....but he also took the fucking kitchen sink ¯\_(ツ)_/¯"
@sirmuffincat6630
@sirmuffincat6630 5 ай бұрын
@@ChrisA2 haha yeah sorry I meant that sarcastically
@Farron6
@Farron6 5 ай бұрын
It’s a growing problem in South African schools now as well
@pedrohenrique-zp7us
@pedrohenrique-zp7us 5 ай бұрын
as long as there is millions on the line, prestige, and fame, everybody will be on steroids
@АнтонАлексеенко_044
@АнтонАлексеенко_044 5 ай бұрын
Unless you lose everything once caught. Like you lose a title shot for the next ~5-10 years, you can fight all you want, but no title shots where all the money are. I do understant it is never going to happen, but it can be implemented quite easily
@bawseeeee602
@bawseeeee602 5 ай бұрын
genius u mate
@TeacherDoug7
@TeacherDoug7 5 ай бұрын
@@АнтонАлексеенко_044 Margerito was caught loading his gloves and was fighting in million dollar fights again within a few years. And that's because many boxing fans are still willing to pay to watch him fight, even after what he did. It's only a minority of fans but still enough to make a lot of money. A problem like this can never be solved as long as money is more powerful than democracy.
@RomesPompeii
@RomesPompeii 4 ай бұрын
​@@АнтонАлексеенко_044yeah it won't happen because there is millions on the line
@saloonboone
@saloonboone 5 ай бұрын
It’s insane how many people are leaping to Ryan Garcia’s defense because he put on a good performance while on PEDs and 3lbs overweight. I understand most of them aren’t actual boxing fans but it’s shocking how the narrative is it’s ok to cheat if you perform well against a divisive fighter.
@Quietplague2000
@Quietplague2000 5 ай бұрын
Garcia was gonna beat that boy without any peds. Haney been had a weak ass chin. No peds helped garcia hurt that weak chin. 😂 garcia would've won that without peds.
@dadbot4359
@dadbot4359 5 ай бұрын
Because it's fishy you 🥜 🧠 wbc and conte are haneys handlers. Vs garcia. It's so silly to not consider any of it. Fool.
@chim8939
@chim8939 5 ай бұрын
​@@Quietplague2000 then why did he take them? This is a crazy way of coping. Imagine someone takes peds against you in a boxing match which resulted in you losing and everyone said "well, you were finna get whooped anyways." No way in hell you are finna agree with them lmao.
@BigAjia
@BigAjia 5 ай бұрын
@@Quietplague2000 People like you are the problem Garcia still should be banned for life. Everyone is cheating and there is very lil accountability
@weirdoslovemrshelton
@weirdoslovemrshelton 5 ай бұрын
​@@Quietplague2000why didn't he then 🤷🏿‍♂️. He obviously doesn't believe he could beat Devin Haney without the PEDS
@karlobluesman
@karlobluesman 5 ай бұрын
most top fighters fight once a year so a 6 month ban is well worth the risk of taking peds. they had the chance to make a statement with pharmacy miller and ban him for life but they gave him 6 months so there is no deterrent for boxers not to take peds. until the commissions grow a pair nothing will change.
@11989matthew
@11989matthew 5 ай бұрын
98% of all top-level sports stars do it in all sports
@Shutityou
@Shutityou 5 ай бұрын
Bro stats.
@asburycollins9182
@asburycollins9182 5 ай бұрын
I believe that is true. Lots or sports almost dont test. Football for one
@gangsterSoup
@gangsterSoup 5 ай бұрын
Yup, exactly. It's so prevalent that it's innate in sport. They're all on something.
@bawseeeee602
@bawseeeee602 5 ай бұрын
@@asburycollins9182 evidence ?
@bawseeeee602
@bawseeeee602 5 ай бұрын
@@gangsterSoup evidence ?
@capt.badmindon2391
@capt.badmindon2391 5 ай бұрын
When big money is involved, moral responsibility is thrown out the window.
@minhducnguyen9276
@minhducnguyen9276 4 ай бұрын
Not only from the athletes side but from the organization side too. I'd even say that the organizations are more responsible than the athletes since they are the ones deciding whether an athlete is getting suspended over a positive test or not.
@zGJungle
@zGJungle 5 ай бұрын
And a lot of the agencys don't check for EPO since it costs extra, so the Commissions don't wanna pay that.
@freyna
@freyna 5 ай бұрын
The other angle is Turki creates a single league and makes anyone failing drugs tests and immediate disqualification from his ultimate league and the money
@B.Wayne88
@B.Wayne88 5 ай бұрын
It's not just Victor Conte, it's Victor Conte and Remi Korchemny that are the dynamic duo in Snac.
@CYMotorsport
@CYMotorsport 5 ай бұрын
It is a little weird when you consider Michele Ferrari’s lifetime ban by USADA. A line in the Netflix doc about Conte he said always stuck with me and is actually alarming when you when consider how wide spread his involvement with current athletes today is even after going to prison for a whopping 4 months: “When Marion Jones hit the finish line and won the gold medal, when Barry Bonds hit all these home runs, you know, any of these great accomplishments, those are things that I’ll always be proud of.” (Victor Conte, Untold: Hall of Shame)
@nickharmer3049
@nickharmer3049 5 ай бұрын
Terrific upload Propa. Very poignant, indeed.! Made for great listening.!! Excellent point about purses pit in escrow until all test results are back.! Bless up bro 🥊
@unbabunga229
@unbabunga229 5 ай бұрын
I actually do think a lot of them just take whatever their coach tells them to, and they don’t even ask. In pro bodybuilding, you’d be surprised by how many bodybuilders have no idea what or how much they’re injecting, their coach just says do this and that, and they do. Most of these guys are not geniuses. But steroids are definitely everywhere in all competitive sport.
@Pleeze
@Pleeze 5 ай бұрын
Good vid. Note that at 6:33 those are not contradictory, Ryan's test found 6ng, which is 60 times the allowed limit (0.1ng). That is still only 6 billionths of a gram.
@aidan2453
@aidan2453 5 ай бұрын
I think people don't realise how small amounts are required to affect the body
@asdadfafafafffallslsldd8068
@asdadfafafafffallslsldd8068 5 ай бұрын
@@aidan2453it's just the traces that are left. They try to time it before they sign up for a fight.
@okeynwachie
@okeynwachie 5 ай бұрын
I agree. Aint shit gonna change until a tragedy. And honestly maybe multiple. That Group B type shit.
@AndyMush
@AndyMush 5 ай бұрын
"Lets go Champ fella" made me spit my coffee onto my keyboard , but it was worth it lol.
@recklezzone7926
@recklezzone7926 5 ай бұрын
I’m sure you’ve had worse all over your keyboard
@holidayarmadillo8653
@holidayarmadillo8653 5 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@AndyMush
@AndyMush 5 ай бұрын
@@recklezzone7926 lmaaaooooo , you got me . . .
@bawseeeee602
@bawseeeee602 5 ай бұрын
@@AndyMush incel
@ehsan20
@ehsan20 5 ай бұрын
It boils down to money. If a boxer brings in tonnes of money then they won't get banned because too many people will be left out of pocket. Its not in anyones benefit to ban a boxer who brings in huge crowds and tonnes of money because they all get a piece of that pie.
@Ubawbag
@Ubawbag 5 ай бұрын
That's the best solution ive heard to stop people doping where they withhold the fighters purse until the samples come back clean , Propa should start a campaign and hopefully if he can get enough signatures and people on board the promoters and governing bodies take notice
@theforce5191
@theforce5191 5 ай бұрын
The naive people won't understand that top athletes are taking drugs, not just for performance but to help aid in recovery.
@david_yordanov
@david_yordanov 5 ай бұрын
So what’s your point?
@theforce5191
@theforce5191 5 ай бұрын
@@david_yordanov looks like we found one already...
@Koroeatspotates
@Koroeatspotates 3 ай бұрын
​@@theforce5191which is bad becuase if they can recover faster than a natty that means they will be able to train more than a natty wich i think you where saying thats another problem
@anthonyclarke5579
@anthonyclarke5579 5 ай бұрын
I'm a swimmer (68) and always considered the sport clean in the past, these days I ain't so sure. It was bad enough with East German women getting a free pass (ask Sharon Davies) but these days I do wonder about some of the elite swimmers. This was a great video, as usual full of funnies but this is no laughing matter. Name, shame and ban every drug cheat.
@crawfordwice
@crawfordwice 5 ай бұрын
My entire football team in 1994 was on gear supplied by the coaches. I was a huge(size wise) stoner kid on the offensive line that wasnt trusted as a steriod candidate. Years later i ran into a bunch 9f my "teammates"and adked if they all had cancer because they were so puny. They just laughed at my naivete.
@gabriellobo-berg9322
@gabriellobo-berg9322 5 ай бұрын
Shout out to Uncle Propa for bringing up the dangers of boxing. Love the sport but had to get brain surgery in Feb because of it. Had only been training for a year and some change. Now I don’t train it anymore but I still do weightlifting and stuff. Proceed w caution lads.🥊👊🏾💪🏾
@Xx_Jason_yY
@Xx_Jason_yY 5 ай бұрын
Regardless of everything unfortunately our favourite sport is corrupt and dirty as hell. A lot of them probably do untraceable ones. I liked the money idea in the end good one propa.
@brmawe
@brmawe 5 ай бұрын
Another problem is the "suspensions" most of these fighters get like 5-6 months temporary banned which isn't much cause most of these fighters don't even fight that much, they barely fight two times a year.
@petemartin4665
@petemartin4665 5 ай бұрын
Excellent video, as always. Cracking stuff 👍🏻
@OzMate79
@OzMate79 5 ай бұрын
Oh wow ya think? Holyfield was the most juiced up fighter ever and got away with it his whole career!
@thetruestoneage
@thetruestoneage 5 ай бұрын
Yep...two great American icons, Holyfield and RJJ, juiced to the gills...They get a pass...Take the juice from them and where would they have been??? This is the problem...
@bitepower
@bitepower 5 ай бұрын
The cu*t's paying for it now,all them years punches bouncing off his juicy chin,he can hardly string a sentence together these days
@OzMate79
@OzMate79 5 ай бұрын
@@thetruestoneage I think also we need to take into account that testing has got more advanced over the years. They can pick up minute amounts of substances (pictograms) that in reality would have zero influence on a fighter’s performance.
@asdadfafafafffallslsldd8068
@asdadfafafafffallslsldd8068 5 ай бұрын
@@thetruestoneageRjj had skills, but Holyfield wouldn't have been very good. He was just a brawler.
@Quietplague2000
@Quietplague2000 5 ай бұрын
​@@asdadfafafafffallslsldd8068RJJ had amazing reflexes. But def was juicing. Same with Holyfield just a juicer. Without it a journeyman boxer.
@scrollyoli23
@scrollyoli23 5 ай бұрын
Brilliant video. Very informative & entertaining. Fantastic work 👌
@Verminator4
@Verminator4 5 ай бұрын
If the Saudis want to take over the sport and set up a promotional monopoly the best thing that could come from that is Vada testing being made mandatory for every fight
@davepage1151
@davepage1151 5 ай бұрын
That’d make it MADA testing 👍🏻
@pranav_k__
@pranav_k__ 5 ай бұрын
you really think those money-grubbing saudis will enforce mandatory vada testing?
@CupidSmurf657
@CupidSmurf657 5 ай бұрын
Fucc VADA testing they are in bed with Victor Conte USADA should be the primary testing in all of boxing
@stanparker9556
@stanparker9556 5 ай бұрын
Vada is a well known sketchy organization itself. Plenty of guys were on gear n constantly passing their tests
@papercrow27
@papercrow27 5 ай бұрын
VADA is not a legitimate testing facility. It's an extortion racket masquerading as a testing facility.
@JackRascal
@JackRascal 5 ай бұрын
Just when people are saying Propa has sold out and gone "corporate", he comes back with this. I do miss the gag-per-minute videos, but this was really interesting. But it also makes me want to stop watching the sport, really. Horrible situation, using drugs in a sport that can involve fatalities. Amazing we could talk about this for over 12 minutes and not mention a heavyweight with the initials E.H....
@Mank159
@Mank159 5 ай бұрын
All these 5ft tall roided up chickens laying nuclear eggs lol
@cerberus3426
@cerberus3426 4 ай бұрын
I’m Mexican myself, and I think someone needs to check Rafael Espinoza. The guy is huge, can drop a lot of weight on his tall frame, and still has the stamina to throw 40-60 punches in late rounds. Idk man, looks sketchy to me.
@rizbotube
@rizbotube 5 ай бұрын
I absolutely agree with the escrow idea, can only be enforced by international governments agreeing, which will probably only happen when someone dies in a big fight. Sad but true.
@woahblackbettybamalam
@woahblackbettybamalam 5 ай бұрын
5:59 Im sorry whom ?😂
@FirstChairGeneral
@FirstChairGeneral 4 ай бұрын
Thought I heard that wrong 😂
@snakethepeg7828
@snakethepeg7828 3 ай бұрын
I read this comment at the exact moment he said it. His parents are either psychopaths or geniuses
@chrisjenkinson7059
@chrisjenkinson7059 5 ай бұрын
Now the issue is that, yes, all competitors in all sports are probably up to this doping lark but, and here's the difference: if you ride a bike and train on PED's, you ride a bike a bit faster, if you kick a ball, you might be able to kick ball harder, faster and for longer, if you box, you may be able to punch another human in the head harder, faster and for longer. This can, of course, increase the risk of serious injury. Even by the standards of boxing, testing and what is done with the information from testing is all over the place. This will go on until someone gets seriously injured by a boxer who is pumped full of hot sauce. Boxing above all must be so much more careful than other sports and should be setting an example in keeping the sport clean and as safe as possible.
@catcatcatcatcatcatcatcatcatca
@catcatcatcatcatcatcatcatcatca 5 ай бұрын
Everyone involved in making the fight makes money by having those specific fighters show up in the ring. All of them can make an estimate of how much a 3 year ban let alone a lifetime ban of a fighter would lose them. Going after the fighters purse could help, because it would mean it would still be the same fighter selling the next fight 8 months later.
@VanBurenPhilips
@VanBurenPhilips 4 ай бұрын
Good stuff Propa, I think this is the best video you've made.
@bearwolffish
@bearwolffish 5 ай бұрын
Agree with sentiment, but I just don't have the foundational knowledge to say if a test is too loose, too tight, how likely contamination is from something as silly as the tap water in a certain environment. There is so much shade in big industry and it's impossible to pre analyse every molecule you ingest. So always feels a bit wild to say any amount no matter how small, any case no matter how verifiably tainted should result in a blanket sentence that then gets lazily applied to multiple sports and leagues with wildly different periods of times between fights.
@SpeedyB0y
@SpeedyB0y 5 ай бұрын
Loool all of the pros from the Fury's family on juice
@bitepower
@bitepower 5 ай бұрын
You can't blame them,hughie up all night digging old age pensioners drive ways and then big John and tyson going around repairing all them old folks drive ways is a hard life,a little drop of decca+test is just the ticket to keep fury and son ticking over
@keithdukes5990
@keithdukes5990 5 ай бұрын
​@@bitepower😝🤪👍
@filmlab_uk
@filmlab_uk 5 ай бұрын
Nate is the boss
@gomolemopilane5748
@gomolemopilane5748 3 ай бұрын
The money suggestion is honestly the best idea but you’re right🤷🏾 if most of the big shots are willing to turn a blind eye that ish ain’t happening
@gerryd7027
@gerryd7027 5 ай бұрын
Money buys different outcomes in boxing it's revolting. No longer a noble art it's all about the money 😢
@henryb1555
@henryb1555 5 ай бұрын
The money is the issue, sadly it's the money that the industry leaders make and want to make and want to continue making that matters most so punishing the fighters is not on their radar apart from a few exceptions to maintain the pretence that its being monitored and taken seriously. Perception is everything with respect to those with no discernment.
@simonkrebs6043
@simonkrebs6043 5 ай бұрын
Mate we have already had that day and the poor fella we lost was Gerard McClellan who is now a vegetable. I am of course talking about Nigel Benn being off his head on both Steroids and Amphetamines and was never tested after the fight. That is the reason why Gerard couldn't knock him out. "So Like Father Like Son". Chris Eubank Snr knew this and is why he did not want his son to Nigel's.
@keithdukes5990
@keithdukes5990 5 ай бұрын
🎯💯
@BucephalusHume
@BucephalusHume 5 ай бұрын
Alternatively, they could allow all but the most egregious of drugs. Even if the money thing was implemented, there's still gonna be chemical alterations and novel workarounds. Testing costs a lot of money. Allowing everything except the most powerful and dangerous chemicals would mean they can test more regularly and with greater accuracy, it would also mean that all organisations can test for the same chemicals. Side note: having multiple organisations is actually good, but only if they're testing at the same time. Much like a competitive economic market, this means if one organisation isn't up to snuff, it's more likely they'll be caught out and have to improve their processes.
@constantinevu48
@constantinevu48 5 ай бұрын
Bruh! Imagine working hard all the youth, while your friends were making fun, just for the cause of being world champion and suddenly you have positive samples, without taking any drug. You life is over, just because someone paid enough yo set you up! Never a ban should be a life time and never trust any testing agencies! Fighters must have the right to use an choosen laboratory and prove their rights. Even if the court said that you didn't use, that doesn't really help if the case was taking years. Corruption will always find it's ways until someone get in jail for a long time. You asked it, you get it what it is! God bless you 🙏
@greenskyline2889
@greenskyline2889 5 ай бұрын
I do agree: Fuck the cheaters, in combat sports you can argue to even prosecute them, as you can hurt your opponent. But what to to with people who are really just getting tainted by usual supplements? like really not taking anything.
@gangsterSoup
@gangsterSoup 5 ай бұрын
But they're all on something 😂
@daviddines479
@daviddines479 5 ай бұрын
You actually beleive the people claiming contaminated supplement ? There is an onus of responsibility on fighters to know what they are putting inside them. Dont take supplements without reading the label. If you dont understand the label dont put it inside you. Simples. No one does that. Youre all cheating/refusing to take responsibility. Heres a suggestion, dont take any supplements. Of course that would eliminate a very well used excuse for "I injected cheat juice into myself".
@davidchristie6003
@davidchristie6003 5 ай бұрын
I reckon deliberate cheating, steroids included, should be a serious criminal offence. The only reason a boxing (or MMA or whatever else) match is acceptable is because both guys consent to it. You give your informed consent based on both of you following the rules. The other guy breaks that, it is no longer a boxing match. It becomes assault and battery in my opinion
@joeltaylorthethird5443
@joeltaylorthethird5443 5 ай бұрын
Same. Honestly the should just allow everyone to use peds it or NO one it if they get caught instant ban from the sport
@davidchristie6003
@davidchristie6003 5 ай бұрын
​@@joeltaylorthethird5443Yeah this little slap on the wrist nonsense means they may as well just let everyone use peds. But actually letting everyone use would be the end of sports
@clifftophoopers
@clifftophoopers 5 ай бұрын
Great video ❤ . The research is mind blowing. Big up propa
@southsideboxing
@southsideboxing 4 ай бұрын
You should do a video on my son, they had us right over with a drug cheat, i've got the failed test, when he failed it, what he was taking, yet they still let him in the country to fight my boy and he came in a stone over weight, which they all knew about the day before, they even changed the weights on the weigh-in sheet, so the fight could still take place, they dropped the kids last name so we couldn't find out anything about him, my son had 12 amateur fights, which again they knew, the other lad, was number 1 and 2 in the world, 2 golds, 9 silvers, 6 bronzes, hundreds of fights at cruiserweight, 5 and 0, with 4 ko's as a pro, my son was 12 stone, the lad failed the test in 2023 and he boxed my son in 2023, the boxing board of control let him in to fight, then once we found out, they all closed shop on us and i do mean all, the board, the promoter, the matchmaker, even he's manager, plus to other governing bodies, they all stuck together, so what chance have any fighter out there got, i was in the game for almost 50 years and now, i wouldn't have anything to do with it again, shit house game, rotten to the core, not even talk sport would take it up, all dogs brother, the games f...ed. God bless.
@jackhargreaves1911
@jackhargreaves1911 5 ай бұрын
As a former (amateur) boxer I was horrified by the ridiculous increase in punching power in the ‘middle’ weight classes in the early 2000’s (including in a series of three fights often referred to as the best of all time). There are huge health implications from increased punch power (and btw both of those fighters I just referred to ended up badly punch drunk for the rest of their lives…). Re heavyweights. Just look at a certain someone (US) who turns into a beanpole between fights…
@DonHomersdonut
@DonHomersdonut 5 ай бұрын
I absolutely adore this channel. Informative and hilarious in equal measure. Keep it up 👍🏻
@JonChoux
@JonChoux 3 ай бұрын
The only fair events are untested, just let everyone take it
@aldrichunfaithful3589
@aldrichunfaithful3589 5 ай бұрын
i appreciate the video, and i agree that we absolutely need a world governing body or for the current bodies to have stricter rules, but the sad reality is that none of that will ever happen since boxing is a business. officials, promoters, judges, refs and boxers are all competing to earn as much money as possible, that's their main focus. so if drug taking, cheating, robbing or ducking will help someone make more money they do it and don't care if it ruins the sport. drugs are problematic in other sports too, and there are plenty of athletes who get away with it, but in combat sports (which really should be the strictest due to the danger the fighters are in) if a popular fighter gets caught doping then rather than getting the lifetime ban they deserve they get a ban so short that it doesn't even affect their career, and that's because the people making the decision are the same people making money from those fighters. i love boxing as a sport, but it has a million problems and almost every single one is caused by money, if we just treated it like every other sport then it would be fine. give the fighters a salary, drug test them properly, test their hydration in camp, force them to fight equal competition regularly if they want to compete for the title, strictly regulate the refs and judges, then stick a 1 minute ad in the breaks to pay for it
@D1amond145
@D1amond145 5 ай бұрын
Doping just like weight cutting is a part of the sport that WILL NEVER be gone Literally ALL of them are doping get over it
@emirbenchaabene1761
@emirbenchaabene1761 5 ай бұрын
“When money speaks, the truth keeps silent.”
@sportmodeuk2056
@sportmodeuk2056 5 ай бұрын
Great Video Proper ..... Combat sports needs zero tolenrence
@GH-zg2wu
@GH-zg2wu 5 ай бұрын
Completely agree, withhold payment until tests are cleared. Could also consider assault charges for dirty fighters as it was an unfair advantage?
@HeraclesWeb3
@HeraclesWeb3 5 ай бұрын
Brilliant video brother respect for this one 👏🏻✊🏻🫡
@zGJungle
@zGJungle 5 ай бұрын
This is why blood work is so important, lots of PED's have a half life of just a few days, no signs of the PED but effects still working.
@BlockyRaptor
@BlockyRaptor 5 ай бұрын
Every sport does, when there's money and ego involved there will always be void uses I think it would be more fair to just not test at all, testing only helps people who have money and fame already because they can spend all the money in the world to hide it
@DjNikGnashers
@DjNikGnashers 5 ай бұрын
Nate is correct, EVERYONE is using some form or other of pharma help, it's just at what level, and how good they are at masking it.
@Haggisdog
@Haggisdog 5 ай бұрын
This rly can't be a surprise to anyone? I remember Roy Jones, at the peak of his career, was testing with more than 17x the average levels of Test in his system. Let's face it, boxing is a sport that directly rewards high levels of testosterone and gives fight fans exactly the fights they want to see. There's not going to be a lot of motivation to fix a 'problem' the sport doesn't think exists. The big question is the risk this is putting on fighters but the truth is they're nothing more than playing pieces on a board controlled by big money.
@theashenfox
@theashenfox 5 ай бұрын
Can't be worse than I thought, cos I always believed that every single one of them is.
@anonnone9355
@anonnone9355 5 ай бұрын
As a result of current drug testing athletes are using WAY less gear than they would without testing The whole point of a professional coach is to manage what little drugs you're able to get away with.
@CCA2020
@CCA2020 5 ай бұрын
Don’t give out pursues for big fights until test results come back
@mancfox
@mancfox 5 ай бұрын
'Big bell end Miller' and 'that let's go champ fella' Proper British boxing talk. Bosh! 🥊
@vukgrujic2957
@vukgrujic2957 5 ай бұрын
LeBron is frequent at Balco company, but whole media and marketing machine is behind him, noone dares to say a word.
@anthonyharty1732
@anthonyharty1732 5 ай бұрын
Yes, EPO and Growth Hormone are STILL! extremely difficult to test if taken in the right doses. Drug cheating is BIG! in boxing. 😡
@Füllerson
@Füllerson 5 ай бұрын
It should be considered fraud and some sort of law equivalent to assault with a deadly weapon as the opponent receives irreversible brain damage.
@craigjoe8691
@craigjoe8691 5 ай бұрын
Doesn't SNAC have additives that aren't regulated or even known about?
@zillvanov
@zillvanov 5 ай бұрын
When someone starts to juggle with vague statements like 1 in a billion you know they are guilty. There are many many many trillions of particles in his body.
@database_man1062
@database_man1062 5 ай бұрын
Let’s be honest, why would you not take it, there are millions of $$$ on the line and there’s a good chance your opponent is taking it
@baheh1801
@baheh1801 5 ай бұрын
Great video funny and very serious at the same time.
@Guitar387
@Guitar387 5 ай бұрын
I don’t think they are taking anabolic steroids though which is the heavy stuff , but I think they are taking stuff to give a very slight advantage.
@samueldowney2806
@samueldowney2806 5 ай бұрын
well said. How depressing.
@SpycoLordOfFire
@SpycoLordOfFire 5 ай бұрын
Chale Sonnen did a great interview with Steeve-O and he said even if the fighter doesn't know, it doesn't mean the coaches aren't putting it on topically. Go watch that interview.
@realAzoreschildinUSA
@realAzoreschildinUSA 5 ай бұрын
Fr unc this truly is madness
@rpsnider85
@rpsnider85 5 ай бұрын
There either needs to be a single governing body, like Mr Double Excellent wants to do, or one of the ideas you said but they would only be realistically implemented if there was a single body. That, OR they need to just unban everything and allow the fighters to all do whatever they want. With one stipulation...no weight cutting allowed. You fight at your natural weight or go up in weight but never down.
@X_Ov3R-_-Ki11
@X_Ov3R-_-Ki11 5 ай бұрын
It's not just boxing sadly. I have picked up an unfortunate drug problem myself.
@craigh21
@craigh21 5 ай бұрын
Best drugs in boxing video I’ve seen, period. Big Propa fan too but as a ‘casual’ boxing fan I only see headlines and KZbin algorithm videos. So I could unwittingly presume Ryan was innocent, Fury tested positive for coke and AJ is clear (with that physic). Thanks Propa, clear as day now - all boxing is corrupt and only Turkey can fix it… bosh 🥊
@barrybarnes96
@barrybarnes96 5 ай бұрын
the escrow idea is perfect
@matthewratcliffe1953
@matthewratcliffe1953 5 ай бұрын
A and B sample are taken at the same time it will always come out with the same result
@qwerty-rh6ht
@qwerty-rh6ht 5 ай бұрын
Wlad was on so much sauce, that's why there was no VADA testing for his fight vs Fury
@ektoras_fl4943
@ektoras_fl4943 5 ай бұрын
Have been a professional athlete since me mid teens . Litterally 95% of all athletes juice and 9/10 don't even look like it the biggest advantage isn't muscles or speed but recovery. If I can train for 6 hours a day and not risk an injury I will eventually surpass everyone due to the extra experience
@_7.8.6
@_7.8.6 4 ай бұрын
The issue is the lead time for testing and getting the result.
@larryalexander900
@larryalexander900 5 ай бұрын
You forgot to mention all the fighters who never got caught.
@heruking4391
@heruking4391 3 ай бұрын
Ali tested positive for codeine and anti depressants to prevent him from shaking due to his Parkinsons. Not the same as Fury testing positive for Nandrolone for strength , repair , speed and agilty.
@dretheman123
@dretheman123 5 ай бұрын
The mula always supersedes ethics in business, especially in the sport / entertainment business. The recommendation you made was quality, but it’ll never come to pass ever.
@LetitGolazziter-uk9xi
@LetitGolazziter-uk9xi 3 ай бұрын
Victor Conti was once asked if Usain Bolt was dirty, he replied, “look at his times”. By the way, the 1988, 100 meters Olympic finals race, 11 of those athletes in that one race all tested positive. Even the great Flo Jo, was a cheater.
@J.Simbeye
@J.Simbeye Ай бұрын
Worst I've seen is Nick Diaz. 5 year ban by the Nevada State Athletic Commission for Cannabis .. while "TRT" Belfort was blinding people with head kicks.
@TedBarton91
@TedBarton91 5 ай бұрын
Lee Evans had it right, just allow it all and see the heights we can get to. 100m in 4.6 seconds, high jump record set to 9.9 metres. Sounds epic to me
@leegregory1822
@leegregory1822 5 ай бұрын
do it like power lifting tested and untested we all love to see juiced up lumps going nuts.
@TeacherDoug7
@TeacherDoug7 5 ай бұрын
The deeper problem is why society cares so much about who is the best at a game.
@bengough6955
@bengough6955 5 ай бұрын
Also watch Icarus for a more thorough look in to how to cheat the tests and systems, really good film
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