TERN HSD Review | P9 | S8i | S+ Compact Ebike

[@Propelbikes]

Thanks so much for watching! If you're interested in learning more about this bike, check out the link in the video description. 🚲

[@ternf8608]

I have a GSD. The problem, I think, with the belt drive and hub gear is when you get a rear puncture it's going to need a shop. The GSD flips up onto its end which makes removing the rear wheel much easier than imagined. But with a belt drive and even a hub gear it's a bit trickier to remove than with a rear mech.

[@Propelbikes]

This is a great point. Some hub gears are easier to remove than others, but once you get the hang of it it’s not so bad. I think you will have a similar benefit, but maybe not quite as quick. It will be a bit cleaner to not have to fuss with the greasy chain though.

[@peterwilliamson4296]

I think the "step through" frame feature is a cool feature! The big leg swing mount action gets a bit of a drag at times. Cheers.

[@Propelbikes]

We’re in total agreement!

[@mikeberryman5322]

especially if you have tall cargo

[@michaelbeiyt]

A closer look at the hq bag at the front mount would be great

[@Propelbikes]

We have a video of the accessories coming soon, but unfortunately, it's not too detailed on the front bag. I will see if we can do one on the laptop bags in the future as I don't have them in the shop and they aren't available yet to my understanding. We just borrowed them for a bit from Tern for this video.

[@michaelbeiyt]

@@PropelbikesI am using a Tern Link for the daily commute in Germany. I am still on the hunt for the perfect bag to be mounted in the front. The hq bag seems to be a promising candidate.

[@noelanthony1204]

information about the 1000 watt battery capabilities.. and its automatic functions I heard in the review but only little information was given about this max level HSD Tern ebike.. please elaborate... thanks

[@gvnnbsn]

Hello, I finally bought a beautiful HSD! I'm very happy! I bought a lot of accessories! and luckily I managed to find the last two Bigmouths on a Dutch site! it's really a shame that you have chosen to replace them with Cargohold panniers, because Bigmouths are much more comfortable and make the experience of using the HSd much more beautiful: I go into the supermarket with Bigmouths and at the checkout I fill them with all my shopping, I mount them on the bike and go home! and once I arrive I bring all my shopping directly to the house! fantastic! please, I beg you, think again and propose them again because there is no comparison: the bags must be detachable! W le BIGMOUTH, W TERN, W HSD! Hi Giovanni

[@danielledean9077]

whats a big mouth? google just has big mouth bike roof carriers.

[@sirclimbs-a-lot9020]

Love the cut at 1:30 "stands for Get Stuff Done or--" 😄

[@Propelbikes]

Trying to keep it PG 😉

[@JaladhiPujara]

They showed a quick release for the front rack. Will that be compatible with the GSD as well?

[@Propelbikes]

Yes it is. It should be available in a couple of months.

[@JaladhiPujara]

Thank you! Looking forward to getting it!

[@capuchin44]

so many questions about that passenger kit! thanks for keeping us updated Chris. I can't help but wonder what the passenger weight range will be, and if the bike will still be able to stand up on its rear end with the passenger kit attached...

[@Propelbikes]

I think you’re not alone. I’ll try an publish something as soon as more info will be available. On a simple level it could just be pegs a pad and stoker bars. The GSD Sidekick bars and seat technically fit but there are no foot pegs. The weight capacity should be the same at ~130lbs.

[@Propelbikes]

I just got an update. It seems the passenger kit will be available in the spring and it will include foot supports, back support, seat pad and wheel guards.

[@serkei99]

would the rear rack be able to adapt to a monkey bar system or something similar for older kids that outgrow the yepp maxi? thank you.

[@Propelbikes]

They will release a passenger kit by summer 2020. Ir should be good for one kid as this bike is designed to carry one child.

[@serkei99]

@@Propelbikes Thats great to hear thank you. Another question, how do you think 50NM would fair against a 12% incline for about 600ft with a passenger and cargo load of around 300lbs. I know im getting into specifics but this is a once in a lifetime purchase.

[@Propelbikes]

I think if you might want to adjust the gearing or opt for the GSD S00 if you’re going to consistently carry the extra load.

[@Terragea]

Great reviews Chris!

[@Propelbikes]

Thanks Rolando! 😊

[@markbeckett3317]

Second battery capability and gen 4 motor (like Benno) and they got it!

[@philipk4475]

You can just put a second battery in the bags and switch when the first gets empty. It's not such a big deal. Far more important, imo, would be better lighting, a double sided kick stand for more stability, and yes, the cargo line motor for those sweet 85 Nm

[@michaelsprinzeles4022]

Another informative video & great review. I love the trend towards belt drives & internal gear hubs because the combo seems virtually maintenance free for road use. Very cool bike and the design is approachable by almost anyone.

[@Propelbikes]

Thanks Michael! Glad you enjoyed it! I’m also very excited about more belts and IGHs.

[@dlmurray55]

@@Propelbikes can the HSD s+ be used when battery is dead like most e bikes? also are the motors on these a bit out dated now? if so should I wait for another bike? also what is with the NBD 5 speed? that bike hub is worst right, I don't really understand that hub vs the others. took me a long to to understand and research internal hubs but I couldn't find much on the 5 speed that is on the new one coming out also are the higher quality parts on these easier to maintenance and do yourself vs old stuff? If there is a part you can think of which one and how hard is it? I want to replace my car so I can save money in long run since I don't drive far in the city and since I feel I could learn to fix my bike for most part vs a car which is a bit harder Not sure if I should also wait for the possibly E-Bike Tax Credit also

[@acerbella]

Another excellent review from you. Thank you! Leaving aside the exceptional ideas in this bike (vertical standing, folding, etc ...), How does this bike compared to the R&M Multicharger Mixte? You rode them both. Which one would you say is better in terms of riding comfort?

[@Propelbikes]

Thanks so much! I’m glad you’ve been enjoying the videos. Generally a larger wheel will give you an easier time rolling over things so I guess you would have a slightly higher rider comfort in the Multicharger. If you put a Kinect seatpost on both they will have a similar ride feel.

[@Brandon-xp1ob]

Agreed. These bikes are made to replace your car so $3200 is a great trade off if you're saving on money otherwise doesn't on car expenses. I wish I had a shed full of different bikes.

[@StrawberryGarcia]

Good vid, did you ever review the term cargo node? If so which do you prefer? Thx

[@Propelbikes]

Thanks! I haven't made a video with it, but the HSD would be my preference since it's electric. Having electric extends the capabilities of a cargo bike significantly from my perspective.

[@OnRappel]

Good job on the review. Keep em coming.

[@Propelbikes]

Thank you!

[@rolandodeloy8428]

What's US price?

[@moma6343]

Lots of great info. Thx.

[@Propelbikes]

Thank you!

[@mshayashi]

This is a very nice bicycle... If they install a belt-guard, and make a more adjustable hand bar(to allow low height), it would be near perfect. And I wisht there were a 24" version.

[@marujo82]

Nice video and explanation. Thanks for showcasing the bike

[@Propelbikes]

Thanks Jorge. I’m glad you liked it. I had limited time with the bike, but I hope it was helpful

[@Rimkus23]

Nice vid as always, do you plan to make a video review of the HSD S+ model anytime soon? I really hesitate between the HSD and the GSD, I had the chance to try the hsd P9 here in Paris, and this bike is so great, I’m gonna try the gsd soon to see the differences, but the hsd s+ seems to be so cool.. I’d like to see a review of it from you 🙏🏼

[@Propelbikes]

I’m also super excited for the HSD S+ I hope to do something with it when it arrives in a few months. The Enviolo auto shifter is really great along with the new Performance Line motor. I’ll try and get a video going of just that bike as it is pretty special.

[@Rimkus23]

Propel Electric Bikes thanks for your answer ! And glad to hear that you are as excited as me about this bike ! So now I’m just waiting for this superb future review of the HSD by Propel ✌🏼👍🏼🔥🙏🏼

[@peeknic]

Very nice review. Thank you!

[@Propelbikes]

Thank you! What do you think of the new HSD?

[@peeknic]

@@Propelbikes I love that it comes with suspension. The GSD's handlebar vibrates too much to my taste. The front wheel is smallish and so close on the vertical under the steering "tube". It would be interesting to know if the HSD suspension fork can be used in the GSD. Do you know if the bottom bracket is lower than in the GSD? I also ride an Urban Arrow and with the same distance from the seat to pedal (to stretch my leg), I can barely reach the floor when stopping with the GSD. I believe it would be a huge advantage to lower that bottom bracket thus making it better for female riders.

[@Propelbikes]

@@peeknic I totaly understand what you're saying. You could also lower the tire pressure a bit on the GSD, but the suspension will really make a difference. You won't be able to fit the HSD fork on the GSD though, unfortunately. For this other point, the difference is the angle of the seat tube. Urban Arrow has a much more relaxed geometry which moves the saddle back and consequently, you are able to touch the ground and still get a full extension because the pedals are more forward. In theory, you could achieve a similar result with a setback seatpost. Thompson makes one which would work. We haven't done this sort of swap before, but it would definitely help with what you're talking about.

[@peeknic]

@@Propelbikes Thanks for your reply. Best regards from Vienna, Austria!

[@stephenmccreary4350]

Do you know if the HSD S+ will have the "walk-beside" feature similar to that of the HSD 8Si?

[@Propelbikes]

Yes it will

[@stephenmccreary4350]

@@PropelbikesThanks, what is the projected ship date for the HSD S+

[@Propelbikes]

I think we are looking at late March right now.

[@karooko1]

When do you expect to have the HSD in stock?

[@Propelbikes]

For the P9 and the S8i we should have them around January. The S+ will be in the Spring.

[@karooko1]

@@Propelbikes Thanks! That is good news

[@Rhaseanw]

Second😁😁

[@welderoner4163]

First

[@Propelbikes]

You were actually employee number 1 for Propel, so that First can be taken many ways ;)

[@welderoner4163]

Propel Electric Bikes I’m Honored that you give me that distinction. It’s wonderful watching what your passion has created. It has touched the lives of many. Blessings my friend.

[@Propelbikes]

Love you Jack! Hopefully we can catch up soon. I’ll be in NY in the beginning on November. You should totally come out and visit when you’re free though too.