Was "Old TDS" ACTUALLY Better?

[@propellars]

I started playing TDS with the easter 2020 event, wanted to (hopefully) reach a big milestone by looking back at the game then. Thanks for all the support ❤

[@ILikeTurtles74]

First finally

[@iamb0]

I also started playing tds with the Easter 2020 event

[@AtoYT-Silly]

EPIC

[@Cat_hats]

I missed the old tds

[@JesusRomero-ff4ib]

Nice🎉🎉🎉

[@NooksYT]

I personally agree wirh Eggrypted here, the community and push of constant yet simple updates along with the mass leaks and fresh new updates every 2 weeks - 1 month just made it better to me. Even stuff like the Smaller = Bigger update which added Pursuit, a great tower and the War Machine was given to moderators, with them showcasing it it gave people something to look towards and find cool that you couldn't possibly see in game. While as now it's nothing like that, I mean sure the quality has been drastically improved but at what cost?

[@dibs6462]

You are now breathing manually and will forever think about this moment @dimaroshchyn2887

[@sjt9113]

@dimaroshchyn2887 zoomer xd

[@TheWantedOneTaxEvasion]

@dimaroshchyn2887Bro is dumb, Boomer existed in 1946 - 1964 and how can he even play roblox if his an old man

[@vovanchidfy]

I was in tds since SFOTH event, and I am a boomer ig

[@milx7210]

TDS now is more of a brand than a game given what they've been doing. I wouldn't be surprised if TDS one day gets a crappy official animated series or something. I mean, props on the dev team for being able to somehow take a school project with stolen ideas into a money-making machine but damn

[@memeymeme.]

I don't like to bash on the game, but boy this is painfully accurate.

[@Kneecaptain]

an animated series would be kinda epik….

[@milx7210]

@@Kneecaptain i said "crappy" animated series for a reason, though I would be more worried about the TDS team's ability to write a good story over their animating skills since they seem to have the latter under control

[@deviratmeliya]

7:32 resize your pi-

[@areus2244]

​@@milx7210I wouldn't call it a brand just because of some merch and a few new things to pay on.. like cmon

[@LordBiggest]

I remember playing tds on the old days, I remember how memorable and fun it was Started playing when there was SpongeBob music and the gladiator event

[@4r4TehEpik]

NO WAY LORDBIGGEST? how are you bro its been a while

[@LordBiggest]

@@4r4TehEpik been ok, just living normally in life lol.

[@World_Finals_Fang]

You can play old tds which is vintage/retro tds

[@OhItsPara]

yo hello, i also remember being a tds player in the old days. I played at the area 51 event but never got commando. ALSO for some reason on that same account i got gladiator for free. I HAVE NO IDEA WHY. but i did loose that account, and i wish i could have it back. nostalgia😌

[@infamoussoapconsumer3870]

I remember playing the SFOTH event, I was so dumb I didn't know how to play much. It was still hella fun.

[@Goobceey]

something about old tds was charming

[@elite_gaming3064]

Yea

[@utopiawasmidd]

The consistent updates?

[@heilamwether8911]

Yeah, with it feeling serious, with a theme, and good mixups of tower, but it was also quirky, with the upgrades, the simplicity of old Roblox, and not at all serious, with u being able to do so much more combos than now, and everything being viable for anywhere like ranger, being viable for just about anywhere besides some places without cliffs.

[@r1ce04]

@@utopiawasmiddnot even that, it just felt so rewarding to play

[@TheIceIvy]

Yea it was

[@poluefemus]

sure new tds has much “better” graphics and stuff, but there’s stuff about old tds that makes it better in my opinion back then, you could use any tower you want like rocketeer and you would still win (unless you’re broke and you only had scout and stuff), you could beat events without needing to follow a strat, everything was a lot more simple and you were mainly playing for fun (with goals along the way), the game was less laggy, etc.

[@vectorofspeed715]

The gladiator event was pretty hell, no one really was that good at the game. I believe that is the event that was pretty difficult for the time

[@pooppee8146]

Why are games that are super realistic boring like tower defenders

[@beigelbites]

gladiator event needed a strat to beat tho, u needed to spam freezers to even have a chance of winning

[@vini-X3]

@@beigelbites just use pyro and the event was easy

[@violetaa_aa]

new tds just has more variation though, the new style isn't devoid of life or anything, alot of the new skins are meticulously designed to be interesting and eye-catching. The old tds was tower battles without the charm of tower battles, the new tds is a flawed but growing and improving game. I played tds starting in 2020, and although the game had gone through thick and thin, its better now than it ever was.

[@CV-TNAA]

I joined around July of 2019. I've been in the TDS community for a quite a while. While I don't hate the monetization, I do agree that the crates are a bit too pricy & grindy. My only real problem is the lack of unique skins. Wraith Minigunner, Partisan Outlaw, Redemption/Golden & Kasodus Cowboy, where all skins that felt like care was put into them instead of just being another number in the pile of skins. We have been seeing more unique skins be added to the game, which is nice. But I still want to see the old ones be remade into something more akin to their original designs.

[@clone3]

yeah i really agree with the skins, the game just lost so much of its old "school project" charm and is aimed more towards money making now. its not a bad game necessarily, just lost a lot of the goofiness and less care that made it a lot more interesting and fun to play.

[@InternetUser9000]

Winning Fallen Mode in old TDS was like winning 5 events in a row back then, legendary.

[@ArsenalIsGreat21]

Agreed

[@Banana11237]

@@ArsenalIsGreat21Agreed

[@MarkStillPlays]

bro i remember golden mode and i think frozen mode too, those were the days

[@wobblestone3148]

even older tds didn't even have fallen, it was called normal hard insane

[@Sucullentbutter]

​@@MarkStillPlaysFrozen mode... Holy shit you Just unlocked a part of my brain.

[@BruhBrawlStarss]

I’d say the new is just more polished then the old tds but the updates have more large gaps in which could cause the players to get bored instead in old tds they had a lot more content to consume and there was more updates stacking more content for the players.

[@sickothem5869]

I haven’t played TDS in a month and looked for other games to grind because TDS is too time consuming

[@SomeGrunt_On_Youtube]

​​​​@@sickothem5869 Ill clarify that I'm not an OG, but this is exactly why I plan to leave TDS for TDS: Legacy (an old-spring TDS remake) along with the lack of updates and communication with the community

[@sickothem5869]

@@SomeGrunt_On_KZbin true the updates are really boring just releasing some skins

[@charcoalcookiez]

@@sickothem5869 fr

[@dragcoldbruh4981]

Inconsistent updates aren’t really the game’s problem, its more of the developers. Take tds legacy for an example. The game is dedicated to being a recreation of the old game and would likely never get actual new features. The game will likely die out after the game become fully complete with missing features they haven’t implemented yet. Which would probably be one update or two

[@mannycantu1285]

I really loved old tds due to its artstyle and design of the towers and zombies that made everything unique, and the amount of replayability with the platinum crates on top along with other cool skins

[@cluemasthemilo]

Watching ur content for so long now, and am glad I have been a part of the journey. Congrats on 100k!

[@Vanta444]

People let nostalgia betray ACTUAL objective stuff.

[@renatoalonzo5603]

I think which I love more about old tds is the old balances for towers Like cowboy making a bank vault for shooting Outlaw having hd which can kinda help And also the old bugs example - the unit slowing

[@greazycheezy7629]

good to see someone saying outlaw.

[@piotrm5635]

aka: terrible balancing no loadout variety etc

[@li_am1]

2023 has probably been one of the worst years for TDS, we haven't gotten anything major gameplay wise in a long time and its been 7 months since the last event. On top of this we've received very minimal communication from the devs and it just seems like something has changed.

[@ziomal_k7189]

2021: i am joke to you Also don't rate the day before the sunset

[@li_am1]

@@ziomal_k7189 True, also what do you mean "The day before the sunset"

[@lamedummy]

agreed 2023 is terrible for tds as of now due to no leaks and the most updates weren't a gameplay update but more skins idk what they are cooking but it is most likely something big well we have to hope that its something good

[@Никилайф-щ5т]

​@lamedummy ye they are doing something big, like event, maybe chaos mode, new towers etc. They don't give any leaks bc if they won't get it on time, the community will say 'ToWeR DeLAy SiMuLAtoR'

[@ziomal_k7189]

@@li_am1 "Don't rate the day before sunset" is term used to don't rate stuff before its over. Like you visited someone, you thought it will be good cisit but turned to be horible. Same with 2023. While tds content is dry since 7 months we still have 5 more what might suprise us

[@g2neWW]

Lemme put it this way tower wise. Bloons TD has had the same lineup across almost 10 years if not 20. They have only had a few additions of towers up until heroes. After a certain point adding more towers beyond is hard, but making every tower capable of soloing harder modes is also a thing that needs done

[@samblamjam]

I 100% agree with u. It’s hard to come up with new towers after you add the core towers that every roblox TD game has. But while bloons may only have add like one tower every few ish years, they sort of add 3 cause of the different paths and not to mention paragons. All this to say that in TDS, what u see is what u get. There’s no crosspathing, no insane tower concepts so once you unlock a tower and play one match with it, u have seen everything and go back to playing with commander, farm, DJ and 2 other meta towers

[@AssaadDandashi]

Yea it gets hard to come up with unique ideas that aren’t just ‘guy with gun’ at some point

[@ry8read700]

as i write this, you're at 99.6 THOUSAND subscribers, and you deserve each and every one of them. all of the hard work you have put in over the past year and 4 months has finally paid off! i'm proud to say that i've been watching your videos from the very start and i consider you the best TDStuber and I'm always hyped for new videos of yours! keep up the good work, propellars!

[@greazycheezy7629]

99.7k a few hours later

[@senorbored]

99.8k few hours later

[@ry8read700]

100K WOOP WOOP!!!

[@vendingvending3371]

100K!

[@azure.heartz]

i really loved the meta of old tds: farm, minigunner, outlaw, mortar, dj/commander/medic

[@propellars]

my favorite era was the "spam 30 cowboys and win" timeline I love old cowboy

[@azure.heartz]

@@propellars old cowboy was goated, old golden cowboy after the buff was meta as well

[@TheRealJustAGuy]

No enforcer spam love?

[@ii8thecookies]

I've been along the ride since Koneko made a video about it (2019), and as much as I look back on what was in the past before, I also enjoy the scale of these massive updates, even if I don't get to play as much anymore, due to being pushed away by both new and old players, atm I've moved onto Tower Heroes atm for their Doors collab, and I appreciate the relatively welcoming environment it has compared to TDS. In the end of the day, I really just wish to have fun with games like these, man.

[@greazycheezy7629]

i remember konekos vid

[@TofkdkrSisoeks]

@@greazycheezy7629same lol, he said he loved the game but never came back

[@greazycheezy7629]

@@TofkdkrSisoeks ye

[@Cahrssomething]

Yo! I joined because of keneko’s vid too, most likely why most of my nostalgia for 2019 tds was the rocket mini and old sniper

[@ShopC0ins]

thas how i feel, like i don’t even care if the games just for money, all that matters is if it’s fun enough to come back to

[@_Joe1]

Another thing to mention is the maps, i prefer the old maps over the revamped ones like old harbor where you can stack 20 outlaws on a single roof if you know what ur doing

[@epicn1cks]

YES THE STACKING

[@amdbr]

Played since sfoth release, I just quit after a single crystallite entered my base UNTOUCHED, came back when the 2020 trailer dropped, not the hardcore one, the one where the overhaul update wasn’t a thing *those days :(*

[@riceyydiceyy]

Yeah, I miss old rocket arena that map was so much fun to play.

[@richard.0819]

​​@@amdbr i remember i was ADDICTED to that trailer

[@violetaa_aa]

"i prefer old thing because it was easier"

[@TheActualConfessor]

You don't miss old Roblox, you miss being happy - Flamingo

[@dratuang2962]

No old tds was just spam minigun win. And then spam accel win. Tds now is a actual strategy game. Cant just spam one thing and win

[@Shlopified]

Im so glad to know that I played like 1 month earlier than propellars

[@checo8383]

Tds players are more nostalgia hungry than nintendo fans

[@NoUserU]

10:23 hold up, that's me!

[@nightdreamer2222]

Yes, something is a bit fishy in the TDS, but hopefully it will recover on that "big update" they are promising. Hopefully. It is sad to see what became from the TDS to be honest.

[@moonTerfixx.]

What was the big update

[@user-sss89]

Congrats on 100k! You deserve it.

[@SizedPrune20010]

I dont think old tds was better, yall ngl is just blinded by nostalgia, yea a lot of things changed, but why dont we look to the current day and worry about right now? i feel like animations are 100% better then some walking animation that looks like it was a td kit

[@Djdohnut_]

I started playing TDS a few months (I think) before the 2020 Easter event and I quit after a while but when I return to the game it’s completely new and it’s kind of confusing. I also have an Easter bunny skin for scout and apparently it’s rare so that’s cool.

[@Frost_spirit434]

tbh new tds feels more fresh i like it more

[@grapejuice8072]

i miss old tds for a lot of things mostly because the old towers were just so charming to look at and it actually feels rewarding to win i loved outlaws back then and its laser animation but now its just, gun

[@ErdenetuyaYondonjamts]

Update : ranger has now a futuristic lazer gun

[@Nabd916]

Old tds just had something that kept bringing us back to playing it and it felt (unleast for me) kind of easier at the time

[@tyuah]

Congrats on 100k man!

[@burnt.cheerios1106]

Old tds was better, that’s that.

[@MrFly228]

Idk..i like new more.

[@Никилайф-щ5т]

​@@MrFly228same

[@rotarylotus6412]

As a player who has played since 2019, I still like the new better

[@itsIelo]

I’ve been playing TDS for a while now, i remember the good times when you would ask the boys to hop on tds and win fallen… good times.

[@GeorgeJung-p7w]

Old tds was simple but the graphics weren't too good, and the New Tds is fresh, updated and constant.

[@bjb1016]

But old tds was more fun, no? With more content

[@NebulaRuben]

@@bjb1016there was less content....

[@minion285evil8]

​@@NebulaRubenyou have less amount of brain

[@bjb1016]

Wdym hidden wave, pvp, poluted

[@bjb1016]

Events

[@BunnyYayaus]

Congrats on 100k subs you deserve it

[@BlacklixEU]

I like old tds way more for a few reasons for example even tho the graphics were fairly simple I honestly enjoyed them more than the current way too much detailed towers and I find old tds gameplay way more fun as it just felt something different everytime I play and also other stuff as great balancing making every tower have Its own way of being good and then also the entire overhaul update kinda ruined tds for me completely and I don't really think that's something they can revert for me

[@sillycatowouwu]

it's not about how old tds is better it's how you had fun playing those before. TDS itself rn is better but you're just growing up so there isn't really stuffs that can make you be happy as you were

[@BlacklixEU]

@@sillycatowouwu -wise words

[@iqbalabbasi357]

​@@sillycatowouwuatleast to me its a mix of both nostalgia and how great it was, like for example how much more strategy was needed for fallen mode with the dmg shields, so you needed racketeer or mortar. Or another example is when wave 20 was actually hard, now it's just easy with accelerator.

[@Bascula90]

Keep going almost 100k!

[@Driftu11]

I'll save 11 minutes and 11 seconds of your life. The answer is yes

[@lilysuriani1391]

congrats for 100k propellars😄😄😇😍

[@Andrew24777]

congrats on 100k

[@michaelfeliciano]

HAPPY 100K PROPELLARS! 🎉

[@fexreddineliyev3926]

Congrats on 100K Subs

[@AngelOnDarkness]

100k subs! GG!

[@computerized7833]

The only reason i started playing tds again is because of this channel and this specific video, Thanks and keep up the good work!

[@whatlol.]

100k subs! I subscribed when you was at 2.7k

[@tankswr1007]

Almost 100k!! Congrats

[@castlersisawesome]

I keep on rewatching this video, the editing is just amazing and your just such a good narrator :)

[@Cryptic_Ace2]

LOL I actually have the entire duck crate series good vid

[@hyperbladezplayz2004]

did anyone notice at 3:49 he called ranger outlaw but at 3:52 he called shredder slasher

[@XXPäronmanglareXx]

Congrats onm100k!🎉

[@TheM291]

Ayeee!! You are about to reach 100K Subs!!! Advance congrats bro!! I saw you going from 4k subs to 100K! It feels like little kid has grown up!! Keep it bro, soon 1 mil!

[@Nyxrucht]

What I miss the most from old TDS is the lobby design especially during the SFOTH event and it's music, other than that. Commander ability stacking was very poggers.

[@PitcherDoesThings]

100k subs!! Congrats propellars, you deserve it!! ❤️❤️

[@ziadprog1025]

Almost 100k Congrats

[@AsAmbitious]

Congratulations On 100k Subs! 🎉

[@luisprofd4]

I’d say this is the same thing that happened with Fortnite. The game kept getting regular updates and slowly improving in quality, but at the same time losing its charm. It feels like it doesn’t have a personality anymore. I feel the same about tds, higher quality but lost what made it special.

[@melonecs]

I’m loving the longer videos !!

[@KenuYTB]

Congrats on 100k!

[@user-si3hg5ir6w]

the guy who would sell and replace enforcer,the guy who would chain john,the guy who would chain commander, the guy who would chain freezers ability and placing mortar’s before templar and the summoners is something you just cant recreate in new tds

[@Nick_Avarage]

It is called "a normal community".

[@iqbalabbasi357]

​@@Nick_Avarage🤓

[@iqbalabbasi357]

​@Nick_Avarage calling current day tds community normal is interesting. Also it's not community he was saying, he was saying things about the strategy of old tds.

[@Nick_Avarage]

@@iqbalabbasi357 I mean, community back then was normal. Even if abilities of John/Militant, Enforcer/Shotgunner, Freezer existed today, you still wouldn't have effect guy described above even in Old TDS games. It is often to see in Old TDS games people more talk about how great old TDS was and how garbage new is, but completely forgetting about using abilities they miss so much.

[@gencimyftaraj1918]

Congrats to 100k🎉

[@Lafambulo]

As someone who played TDS since it's release in 2019, I say it was more fun and entertaining , almost all the towers had a purpose to use and the funny demoman tower meta where you could just spam demo to win. I don't say it was bad but with those 3-4 cosmetics update we've got with almost no balance changes to make me stop using accel or engi at all, I just want some actual content update like it used to.

[@circuit1138]

i started during the sfoth event and barely remember any of it but area 51 was insanely goated

[@IDK-et3jt]

So close to 100k subs! Good luck! Good vid.

[@cream1199]

I have so much nostalgia for old tds, I loved the cowboy and crook boss

[@prospeedrunner1]

Congrats man, you hit 100k! What a milestone! You're now on the 100k club! (Which means you can get your first playbutton)

[@Future-Gaming541]

Great Job on 100k!!

[@ku_rt3630]

congrats on hitting 100k!!

[@breadstarss]

amazing videos, congratulations on 100k subscribers!

[@BeanMeme]

Dude it makes me happy how much this game has grown! I’ve played since 2019 but my account got deleted

[@minecraftainpjs585]

You’re so close to 100k, high hopes for you

[@youraverageovergrinder6772]

dude the video was great i totally watched the entire thing. (but actually good job)

[@kuagmir3]

congrats on 200k🥳🎉🥳

[@ThatDeviantt]

Propellars 100k subs! :O

[@fnfpeople]

it always makes me happy when your an old fan of a content creator, been subbed since 65k and this dude is making the best content imaginable. Oh and, I played 5 matches of night 1 in solar eclipce and didnt play until 2022 christmass

[@enis600]

fun fact: Tds originally started as a school project, that project turned into probably the biggest tower defense game in roblox :D

[@Ukennyai]

Astd and ttd:

[@baconsweetkings8402]

​@@UkennyaiBro hardcore update averaged 100k constant players

[@Ukennyai]

@@baconsweetkings8402 yeah, for about 2 seconds, ttd, astd, other popular td games on roblox average like 100-200k but for longer than 2 seconds

[@jgsgamergfdgfdgfd1137]

@@Ukennyai yeah cuz people looove anime skibidi toilet and of course the "fun" of those games, all of the gambling. tds is an actual td game

[@Dodocommander]

almost 100k 😃. congrats hope you like your play button

[@joseph798]

You’re not looking back far enough, mid 2019 was where it was at, on my only account I had commando shredder and swarmer. But I had no idea tds got that many players BEFORE the hardcore and mega updates, I thought it’d only peak at a few thousand.

[@Frost_spirit434]

imagine they made a retro event, like the hunt or classic event, which was themed like the old game, with each mission being called "Eras" with different time periods like era 1: 2019 Era 2: Pre hardcore 2020 era 3: Post hardcore 2020 Era 4: Mid 2021 Era 5: mid 2022

[@AidenLor-qc5xy]

I remember logging in during the day and then in night at 12:00 to get that extra daily login

[@wal9044]

CONGRATS ON 100K!!! YOU DESERVE IT 🥳

[@The_whales]

Another thing I would say is there were less purely trash towers, towers like rocketeer, mortar and pyro were used because they were good at the time, but today why those towers when accels, and engineers can do the job both better and faster

[@t4c095]

i still remember the old running animation. i used to run around the lobby with a friend that i now lost contact with in 2019 certainly nostalgic

[@Mr_Vans]

I love your videos please keep uploading :)

[@Airplaneswhen132]

Yo congratulations on 100k you deserve it your my inspiration for tds

[@Poke_PufferFish_Animations]

Congrats on 100k

[@Mikeplayzvr]

nice job on 100k!

[@PERSON11-s1h]

I joined during the area 51 event and the game was fun because new towers were coming to show new strategies but the game for me went downhill after the void event flop because the skins lost their cool cosmetics and there wasn't 1 player elevators. and the main thing was the cartoony style was gone

[@LucasGator2]

I started to play TDS when the Gladiator event was a thing. I remember when the Cowboy event tower had 2 maps to get him. Good old days...

[@Saxxy_Mann]

It was that unpolished messiness that made it so charming and fun imo

[@JT0H]

Remember those 2 towers they said that they would release? It’s been a year or so since they said it and when they first showed it they were almost done

[@pumpkinflash500]

I just miss how classic, retro, and simple old tds was

[@AtoYT-Silly]

It’s so epic my king swag propellars

[@H3x4g0n33]

Nostalgia hit me like a truck seeing Hunter's old skin

[@rat2_forlife.]

CONGRATS ON 100K

[@xaisann]

ALMOST 100K!! LOVE YOU LIL BRO!!

[@Unstable_YT]

Congratulations on 100k!! 🎆🎇

[@aleixc.f2377]

Oh hey u hitted 100k congrats

[@yearlongbeet2]

Dude congrats on reaching 100K

[@realawesomeos]

so i discovered someone recreated 2020 tds today, and im just gonna say that i had more fun grinding it today than i ever did playing tds in the past 7 months