Proper East End Traditional Pie & Mash - Best in London?

[@nickrobinson8339]

My beautiful 94 year old Dad passed away exactly a month ago today and his funeral was this Monday 13th May. He was born in Chigwell and lived in Loughton, Walthamstow, Woodford Green and Leystonstone in his early years. He would always go on about pie and mash and liquor and Manze's and so on. This was his bread and butter and he would go down to Manze's with his dad and brother, cousins and uncles in the late 40s and into the 50s. He was perhaps not a true East Ender but loved West Ham and Leyton Orient and loved the London that he grew up in. Last year we watched a few of your clips DJ where you and I believe the McMaster, on one occasion, went to these Pie and Mash places and the joy on his face was amazing so thanks for that lovely memory. Mum, now 93 and with dementia, has just watched this and it has taken her back as she was born in Stockwell and lived in Woodford and Loughton for many years.

[@JoanRodriguez-g3j]

So very sorry for your loss ❤

[@nickrobinson8339]

@@JoanRodriguez-g3j Thank You. Dad had a good innings as they would say in cricket.

[@DJsFoodTravels]

Thank you for sharing Nick

[@MikePaton-Williams-yv9qo]

94 is a reason to celebrate. Lost my elder brother on March 4 2023. Much younger than your dad and miss him. Keep strong🙏🏽

[@nickrobinson8339]

@@MikePaton-Williams-yv9qo Thank You. Sorry for your loss. My cousin Neil Robinson died while playing 5 a side football some years ago in Romford at 53 years of age. Yes we were blessed having Dad so long.

[@ronniemckeown3916]

Love a bit of pie and mash

[@yanikem6655]

Thanks DJ, I’m making a note of all these places to go to when I can get back down to London. Can’t wait to try them!

[@karenclancey2557]

Amazing loved this . And you learn something every day! Great pie and mash . Great review . Thanks DJ❤️😘🙏🏽😜

[@DJsFoodTravels]

Thanks for watching

[@shsh-he5qg]

@@DJsFoodTravelsyour old mate that northern snake ? 😂

[@robertofigliola4963]

Hi Darren, Nice little video about pie and mash , and a history lesson too great the old ways don't get lost , love it . Keep it up ❤

[@juliawilliams3467]

What a great vlog looked nice, don’t you just love to hear about history , how things have changed over the years . In many things but it’s always good to look back in time , well done for getting the info for us all, you are ace keep it up x

[@DJsFoodTravels]

Very kind Julia

[@gregsimister2396]

Nice blog and if i remember you had a pie and mash with the mac master and he went northern with gravy i think nice one Dj

[@linz347]

Food of the gods is that there Pie, Mash and Liquor. Having lived over the other side of the water, Manzes has always been a staple although these days it is the veggie pies for me. I can still appreciate pie and mash in its originality, never liked eels though was like rubber when I tried them Interesting re the knife story, never used a spoon myself nor the chilli vinegar. Pie and Mash brings back memories, it is such a staple and so reasonable in price, that is what makes it unique. Anyhow the pie, mash and liquor looked wonderful. Thank you for showing us your experience .

[@howdan1985]

Welcome back to Laaaaaandan DJ. Thanks for this great review. I've always wanted to try Pie,Mash and Liquor so I'll be putting this on my list. Off The Charts 🎉

[@nodakjak]

Was lovely meeting you in Spitalfields earlier today. Thanks for all you do; keep up the good work.

[@DJsFoodTravels]

Thank you, likewise

[@hiramabiff2017]

The is only 1 traditional cockney pie & mash shop left in the east end. F.Cook's, Hoxton market Est 1899. They still bone their own flanks of beef for the mince and use the same recipe's from 1935. Sadly I think Joe Cook is the last of the family still keeping it alive and going. Bloody expensive though...lol Nostalgia seems to come at a price nowadays.

[@MichaelLewis-y8c]

Hi dj great blog old shool food always the best 👌 keep going kid keep 💪 smilling

[@MichaelLewis-y8c]

Cheers 🍻 daz

[@WideAwake-bl7gw]

That looks so good! I want some now. Greetings from the U.S.! :)

[@ThePensta81]

You really can't beat simple, traditional food done well and when the staff are that knowledgeable and passionate it really takes it to the next level. Absolutely Outstanding!! Loved it!! 👍🏼😁

[@DJsFoodTravels]

Couldn't agree more! Glad you enjoyed it

[@jeanettedemosthenous2685]

Great vlog DJ - the cafes giving their knives for the war effort rings true - I believe they also cut the metal railings from the fronts of houses too. x

[@rayrobb8602]

Great video Darren...salivating as I watch

[@garysanders8090]

love the history of these family run businesses. proper comfort food. would love to try it one day

[@richardgetlevog3123]

Lovely food Darren and great video as always mate. Cheers👍👍

[@peterlaverick6931]

Hi Darren, another great video. Had a day in London yesterday, brilliant sausage roll from Ginger Pig, thanks for the recommendation

[@DJsFoodTravels]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@jaynehopcraft2890]

Oh my word looks amazing Darren . 😮 so many places l have never been to .

[@sparkiegaz3613]

Always great to look at your food visits , I do miss a proper English fry up or fish chips ,, can’t wait for my return to Uk and London finest cafes 👍

[@Fallonised]

Great video love the History. Love the channel.🙏🏾

[@robertansell4538]

😊nice food and some good history good have back home 🏡 Darren 😊

[@declanmcdermott]

Loved this Video, thank you

[@AliSkarsgard]

Awwwh😋 this looks well lush! You need the spoon to get every last drop 😉- have a fab rest of your weekend x #comfortfood

[@MikePaton-Williams-yv9qo]

Love Darren's vlogs and fully support his tough weight challenge. With that in mind, would it have been an idea for one pie and a single serving of mash😘

[@catherineturner2839]

My Grandad was from the East End, I got my taste for jellied eels from him with white pepper and vinegar. Yum

[@lozzywalker]

Great video as always. Quick q: do you still see much of the macmaster? I enjoyed you two together!

[@marcse7en]

You know, it REALLY is true! ... A little of what you fancy! 😋 ... Give me plain, simple, traditional food EVERY time! 👍

[@colindarroch4022]

You can can't beat it wholesome comfort food and that looked really good. Never knew that spoon and fork.

[@steveholland1252]

Great vlog DJ I’m off there on Friday !

[@DJsFoodTravels]

Cool 👍

[@CockneyInCumbria]

I do miss my pie and mash I have tried most of them being a Retired Black Cab driver but my favorite was my local one in Camden Castles pie and mash in Royal college st NW1 if ever your near there Darren give it a try you won’t be disappointed mate👍🏿

[@pennybaxter4]

Looks lovely , I can’t eat double / double anymore , always used to after swimming at cally pool 🏊.

[@davidmarsden305]

Love my pie & mash, Harringtons, Wandsworth rd, Manzies, Tower bridge rd and now Scotts in Orpington all do the job, happy days. Must say thou, not into the school dinner potato depenser used in your video🤷 wooden spoon half way round the ede of the plate👍

[@richardhughes1488]

I David I went to Vauxhall college in the mid seventies and had for the first time pie and mash on Wandsworth road. I loved it and went regularly.Many years later I went back to this place but it was no longer there.The name Harringtons rang a bell is that the one you’re talking about opposite Vauxhall college?

[@DJsFoodTravels]

Isn't Harringtons in Tooting?

[@davidmarsden305]

Yep, they also had one tooting, surprised they closed down, people used to line up outside to get in, when it was getting closer to your turn the fella in front would pull out tupperware containers and order 20 pies to go and you'll have another 10 min wait for the next batch to come out of the oven 🤬😁, happy days

[@janbow5124]

In South London we also use white pepper and chilli vinegar on our pie and mash but oh how I do love those stewed eels and liquor. I have not had any of them for years now. 😋

[@TimK2646]

Love your accent Darren. Loved the Pie and Mash. You actually went on a TFL Bus? OMG. Are you a Hammers fan? My best mate was Millwall fan.

[@inspireyou2396]

Can't beat a proper double double! There are some top pie and mash joints across the river mate on the SE side!

[@camstewart4567]

You Cant beat a bit of pie mash liquor not been there in a long while but proper east end grub great video.

[@BruceThorburn]

Love your content! Keep on! Bruce

[@DJsFoodTravels]

Thanks, will do!

[@paulhartley7459]

lovely to see tradition only ever had pie and mash once in Dagenham we were playing Dagenham and Redbridge didnt dare have the liquer though i wasnt into food as much in them days would have the liquer now as it is tradition

[@ricatkins4918]

...the look on that Mash potato on the Right... is priceless....😂😂

[@samhenwood5746]

Who doesn’t like pie n mash yummy 😋 Thanks DJ 🤗

[@angelawild1328]

I agree

[@jeanettedemosthenous2685]

I could eat the pie and mash but can't stand sloppy food so no liquor for me thanks. x

[@pkyid]

The samrat tandoori has been there for decades and is very good underrated Indian restaurant. It’s often quiet due to location but is well worth a visit. I’ve tried at least 30 Indians in London and it’s one of the best. I’d love to see you cover it on here and see if you agree how underrated it is

[@alfredhanley1691]

D.j that's Amazing I need to try that very tasty I bet .enjoy.alf

[@chrisstewart7420]

Darren. Absolutely great stuff. Going to Southend 13 -15 June. Will not be eating lunch get there about 3pm popping into the new Manze's on Southend pier highlight of my year being exited in Suffolk !

[@whu58]

Wow, didn`t know that `Manzies` have got a branch on Southend Pier

[@chrisstewart7420]

@whu58 Apparently, according to the Southend Echo, yes! It's also licensed when I go. I'll update unless someone gets there first! 😃

[@mtoth1156]

Thank you so much I really enjoyed this video

[@DJsFoodTravels]

You are so welcome!

[@johnparkin3064]

The look on your face after the first bite is priceless 😂😂

[@teddyb4957]

I know the feeling, for me eating P&M is an emotional experience...real comfort food, and why I could never be a vegetarian; give up all other animal protein easily but not my 'comfort' food!

[@johnparkin3064]

I suppose living as vegetarian/vegan is a noble thing to do. But they don’t know what they’re missing. My father in law was a butcher and he used to have nothing but contempt for vegetarians. Then again I suppose he was biased 🤭

[@alex-E7WHU]

I will definitely be paying them a visit next time I'm down south.

[@toopoos]

Good old proper scran that happily fills a gap. 👍

[@Andy-ir6rt]

I love the idea of travelling to London for the pie and mash. The trouble is, my least favourite herb is parsley (childhood memories 🤢) and I’m led to believe that’s what the liquor consists of, and eel juice!?😕 A nice thick meat gravy over that pie and mash, that’ll do me! I’ll come down for that! 😋

[@DJ_RickyB]

That looks stunning my friend. Proper mash, proper pies and proper liquor. All sorted with a splash of chilli vinegar. To top it all off a West Ham poster in the background!!! You say it is in your top two? Other one? Manze's? Back up that way soon visiting family in Rainham etc. Best one you reckon?

[@anneperry9014]

Love the cockney guy. Brilliant!! Love it!!!❤❤❤

[@Stephen-gp8yi]

Last pie and mash I had was in Wandsworth bridge road around 1995-6 and it was 6 quid.i presume the place is long gone now!

[@emmarogerson]

Blimey DJ when I saw the waitress piling up only one pie I thought nooooooo! Our DJ is without doubt a ‘two pie man!!’ Then all was well! I never ever tire of a ‘pie and mash’ vid! Never! Fab video DJ … til the next one! 🥧🥧🥔🥔

[@DJsFoodTravels]

You and me both!

[@gabjen7548]

I remember when Gary eats went here and loved it, he tried the jellied eels but couldn’t eat those. The liquor sauce is interesting I’ve never seen it up north where I’m from. I used to think it was a bit bizarre. But I’ll try it if I find it anywhere.

[@ashman4357]

Looked bangin pal 👍

[@fenradast3577]

In my younger days. It was pie, (upside down in a bowl.) 1, 2 or 3 mash. Served to the table. Then the liqour, Steaming hot, was poured over. My father and later me always took our own NBC. No other vinegar will do.

[@williebobs3830]

NBC ?. Please.

[@terencephillips6833]

@@williebobs3830..Non brewed condiment

[@johncolton2859]

Simple,delicious and inexpensive, you can’t beat that!

[@DeniseMcMurray-j7y]

Hi Darren, I hope this meal is off the charts. Enjoy

[@DJsFoodTravels]

It certainly was

[@DeniseMcMurray-j7y]

@@DJsFoodTravels fantastic

[@holymoly6829]

Loved this Never knew about the chilli 🌶️ vinegar Up north we have Hendersons sauce (Sheffield) I’d have passed on the jelled eel though ! 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️ It’s the bone in the middle always makes me gip 🤢

[@paulinegiles5757]

It's all fork and spoon in Thailand. It's a great video 😊

[@rayduffy-m4u]

Pie n gravy mash unions up here D J Fife

[@lukaroach756]

Real gangster food 😂💯

[@cinny2222]

My Dear Old Nan used to take us to East end For Pie Mash, Nan always had the Jellied Eels , I can still see her now Sucking on the Eel down to the Bone Bless her . Is Tubby Issacs Still there do you know ? Thanks, brought back some lovely Memories 👍

[@staypress]

nope gone a while now

[@Tee-B]

DJ have you been to Castles pie and mash just off Camden Road? Been going 30 years myself. My Dad introduced me to it

[@seamus9750]

When I have some mates over for a bite in Cape Town i try so hard to replicate my upbringing 😊

[@wendalboy]

Always wanted to try this looks great

[@johnbennett1197]

Looked delicious

[@jglasernyc]

It looks like a cool place to eat.

[@MrBobogrady]

BJ's is the best pie and mash in London!

[@siam1425]

Im part east londoner. Im amazed theres any pie and mash eateries left.

[@kenbakie4590]

Darren, another great review. Any idea why the pies are turned upside down before they are eaten? Is it easier to attack them with a spoon instead of a knife?

[@DJsFoodTravels]

I mentioned in the video

[@petergoddard1960]

Bloody lovely!

[@trevorfromengland]

Is Nathan's in Upton Park still open?

[@whu58]

Darren, Please come down to Romford and try `Robins` pie & mash, it too is great,.......I knew the original owner of the chain (A lady called `June` who is no longer with us) who had a shop in East Ham high street back in the 70`s.

[@neiljobe3065]

Not in the same league has bjs

[@andyfreer8463]

Had this dish in shepherds bush green in the 80ths delicious

[@adamwyatt9748]

Probably at Cooks, Goldhawk Road. Sadly closed down now. Cockney’s down portobello road is best this side of London

[@pauloconnor5101]

Decent pie.and mash in there had not tried it until a few years back worth a.visit.imo.

[@paulwooller4524]

Love the story of the spoon and fork and what a great chap the proprietor is. Love your videos but they always make me hungry watching them. Question - watching all that lovely grub could I put on weight whilst sitting in my armchair?😉😉😉👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@DanPaul-nt1fx]

You cant beat english food mate that looks lovely my gut is rumbling 😜

[@jamesweber4938]

I was born in Canning Town and lived on Malmesbury rd and Ordnance Rd in the 60's.

[@ShuggsComicsandStatues]

Coming from Dagenham, I’ve been eating Pie Mash since the 1970’s I don’t remember Chilli Vinegar in the Shops then, was it always available? As Chilli’s have only really come into Fashion in the Last 30 Years

[@carolgriffiths1682]

Wow, we went to Maureen’s for the first time last week, looks like this is another one to add to the list, double double is the only way isn’t it 👍

[@DJsFoodTravels]

Please try it

[@carolgriffiths1682]

@@DJsFoodTravels yep next trip to London

[@markwincott9790]

One of the best

[@saneshgobin4259]

Does it ever feel awkward dinning? I've been meaning to try it.

[@peppapig3761]

Love pie mash and liquor 🥃 x. Go to Goddards in Greenwich they sell frozen pies load in my freezer.

[@doughstarstar4032]

I couldn't work out why they'd put vinegar on a pie until i realised they use eel juice or fish stock with the parsely sauce. We only put ketchup/TS on Pies in Australia...looks tasty.

[@geosmith3436]

We don’t have these in Glasgow but would love to try them however I’ve noticed that the underside of the pies always look kinda raw and uncooked.Wonder what the reason is

[@simone9673]

Great vid as usual Darren? Did you know Gary Eats gave you a mention yesterday? You two should do a colab - love to see you do a hot pot next time you’re in Chinatown. Anyhoo, two questions: (1) how do you juice an eel and (2) who was your companion?? Out with it …😂

[@DJsFoodTravels]

I emailed him 6 months ago

[@Chiswick-Edward]

I miss a local pie and mash in west london, none left I'm afraid

[@adamwyatt9748]

Cockney’s pie and mash, portobello road. Hughes pie and mash, west end road Ruislip if you’re way out west. Cockneys is my favourite. There is one in shepherds bush, Uxbridge Road, but it’s terrible

[@valeriewright8686]

The spoon is to scoop up the liquor surely

[@lynussss]

That makes sense yeah

[@MaffAndxu3jj]

I miss it Good old P&M from East End

[@JoanRodriguez-g3j]

We have nothing like this in the US 🇺🇸 Enjoy! 😋

[@richardbehrendt65]

Your pies in England are good but the best pies in the world are right here in Australia 🇦🇺. Check fact. Richard from Tasmania Australia 🇦🇺

[@ronspringate1045]

Where in Canning town is this pie mash shop

[@SteveW1985]

2 and 2 mate 👌 ❤

[@manofkentcatapultsgunsando5069]

One mouthful of that and you bust out the CHAS and DAVE LP 😂😂

[@londontokyo8307]

Double double for £8? Amazing!

[@TessTickles00]

Just to let you know mate, he's perfectly correct about giving the steel knives away to help the war effort. It was the second world war and everyone gave pots, pans, cutlery and whatever metal they had to go towards making munitions, tanks, guns, bullets etc. Even the railings at most houses and schools were cut down and put to use too. That helped us win the war. Also, the chilli vinegar is a recent thing, normal malt vinegar and white pepper has always been a traditional condiment but not chilli vinegar. By the way, it looked delicious and I'm sure it was. I used to have it at least once a week as a kid, and eels mash and liquor but I no longer live in London so haven't had it for years. My old man used to catch eels from the Thames when I was a kid and make jellied eels for us, lovely grub.

[@DJsFoodTravels]

Thanks for sharing

[@Cordie-is5dg]

Each time I see you review a resturant I'm jealous. My diet is very strict. I put up with the torture because you have an ex ellent channel. 😅

[@susanhinchcliffe8048]

Try Robins chingford highly recommend them