Is This System the NEXT STEP in 3D Printing?

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Proper Printing

Proper Printing

Жыл бұрын

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In this video I show a concept which I thought is interesting enough to try out if it actually works. Is this the next step in 3D printing or is this a bad idea? I think it has an interesting potential which would be fun to explore further. What do you think? Ditch the plan and pickup another project or see how far we can go with this?
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@properprinting
@properprinting Жыл бұрын
Has this idea potential, or shall I ditch it altogether and move on with the next project?
@schirmcharmemelone
@schirmcharmemelone Жыл бұрын
its wayy too complicated. needs to look and be simpler!
@jakeengland1430
@jakeengland1430 Жыл бұрын
Just go with the rule of cool just because its not BETTER doesn't mean its not stil FUN. Thats why delta printers are still a thing after all haha
@hayden9944
@hayden9944 Жыл бұрын
@@jakeengland1430 - delta printers have the advantage of no Z banding from the bed moving up and down. Therefore, for the price you can get extremely high quality prints from a delta.
@ConstantijnC
@ConstantijnC Жыл бұрын
I love it! Please continue with this idea!
@jakeengland1430
@jakeengland1430 Жыл бұрын
@@hayden9944 2 words, belted Z
@LisaHarsh
@LisaHarsh Жыл бұрын
I don’t know if it will work but the process is amazing. If you are enjoying the challenge, go for it. It’s not about it being perfect right away it’s about innovating and making it better.
@mamatuja
@mamatuja Жыл бұрын
This is not about making it better, it's about the view counts.
@FraMurgia
@FraMurgia Жыл бұрын
Everything that set us closer to a fully 3d printable 3d printer is to be considered big innovation for 3d printing. Great work!!
@lasskinn474
@lasskinn474 11 ай бұрын
there's printers with 3d printed linears
@Scharrelese
@Scharrelese Жыл бұрын
I think this system has enormous potential, would love to see how far you can push this
@properprinting
@properprinting Жыл бұрын
Thanks! I have this feeling too :D
@pdjames1729
@pdjames1729 Жыл бұрын
@@properprinting this looks very promising for light gantries (with carbon rods?) and yes you should definitely carry on with the project. Towards Open source/commercial frame-robot type things? Regarding the speed-boat-race me (and the mrs) were watching and talking about engineering principals. On a core-xy printer, surely the Gantry and head need to be light but the Frame as rigid as possible regardless of weight? Some people literally bolt their frame to the nearest brick wall ;) also... . I can see the benefit of triangles for maximum strength for the mass but could frame components be square (with internal triangular reinforcement?) for greater simplicity where weight is less critical? You'd only need 1 corner model :) xx
@BobWidlefish
@BobWidlefish Жыл бұрын
I’m skeptical of the new system though if you push forward you’ll learn stuff that will enable you to make a better thing so it may be worth it anyway if you enjoy it. It definitely looks good!
@properprinting
@properprinting Жыл бұрын
Thanks and a bit of skepticism is good!
@peterspencer6442
@peterspencer6442 Жыл бұрын
@@properprinting one of your major strengths (and the reason I think we enjoy your videos so much) is that you embrace all parts of the design process: you come up with a cool idea and get it from your brain into a real part or machine, and then you can critique your own work and feed that back into the design. Getting the whole design process right is not at all easy and yet every one of your videos shows us more of the art. Always inspiring.
@BobWidlefish
@BobWidlefish Жыл бұрын
@@peterspencer6442 fact-check: true!
@Genesis-dj7kw
@Genesis-dj7kw Жыл бұрын
Now, this might not be the fast printing revolution - but it could bring us closer to a stable and economic 3d printed 3d-printer frame, which I'm all for. I'd love to see you pursue this idea further!
@ButByAI
@ButByAI Жыл бұрын
Yes! It might become a cheaper alternative to exstrusions
@bubblodetechmore5512
@bubblodetechmore5512 6 ай бұрын
Aren't extrusions already cheaper than that? It would be a different story if those blocks are injection moulded tho.
@scienceguy8
@scienceguy8 Жыл бұрын
Even if this doesn't work as parts for a high-speed 3D printer, I can see this being useful as a structural component for building things like boxes and enclosures. I could see this making for a very interesting looking PC case, or as a replacement for those expensive aluminum extrusions you see on some printers (less cutting and drilling).
@letsgetsteve
@letsgetsteve Жыл бұрын
Is it 100% the only solution? No, not even close, but it is pushing design and a new approach. I think it is incredibly interesting and think there is a ton of potential here. I would say keep working on it until you hit a dead end. It is a great way to work those engineering muscles and shares a new perspective approach with the community! Great work!
@clabrop
@clabrop Жыл бұрын
Hi, this is a great idea. Here in my country (Paraguay), it's really difficult to buy v-slot to make 3d printers, then you only can laser cut mdf or something like that. This idea can really have a great potential for smaller countries to promote building stuff. I would really love to see a full 3d printer frame made with this idea.
@kalifack
@kalifack 10 ай бұрын
+1 Morocco ! :D
@TheExtremeElementz
@TheExtremeElementz Жыл бұрын
Just found your channel, man this frame looks SO sick. It’s not a failure it’s a start of something great!
@mirekstanek
@mirekstanek Жыл бұрын
@@holeechitfukinfast.4900 Agreed. Whenever a new video from him pops up, I instantly turn into a 5 year old.
@jmirodg7094
@jmirodg7094 Жыл бұрын
Great idea! The tetrahedron is the most rigid structure from geometric principles. However exploring the unknown means that a few failures are to be expected and this is part of the learning process. They usually allow to generate new ideas. Two things though: - for smooth movements you need smooth surfaces. - things that assemble will be heavier than something in one part as you need to generate extra loads to keep the parts together. I'm eagerly awaiting next episode.🤩
@sebuls
@sebuls Жыл бұрын
That little chuckle at 12:30 is exactly the reason I still keep making stuff. Things break, designs don't work out, unexpected problems out the wazoo, smacking my head at the wall for hours, days, weeks. But at the end i have something that give me that little chuckle and suddenly the whole journey doesn't seem that bad after all.
@Rein-hg9in
@Rein-hg9in Жыл бұрын
I think this is a great idea. You could build a "3d printed 3d printer" with this concept. And yeah, it looks freaking cool. Just imagine a printer built out of those. You just have to figure out a way to put a belt in there for xy and for z.... Well, you just put 4 of those rails vertical. Nice job man!
@properprinting
@properprinting Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Making a whole printer will be an interesting next step and I hope it will look like some miniature futuristic stage at a festival. I should print band members on the plate, I mean stage xD
@AcrimoniousMirth
@AcrimoniousMirth Жыл бұрын
“3D printed 3D printer” soooo… Reprap?
@Rein-hg9in
@Rein-hg9in Жыл бұрын
@@properprinting haha lol that would be so funny! I can already see the video in front of me, edited with music and lights shining from all sides 😂
@tinyfluffs
@tinyfluffs Жыл бұрын
@@properprinting For more inspiration I would totally look at the Rook 3D printer. It's using a printed frame. With something like this, it moves us one step closer to self replicating 3D printers in all but the nuts and bolts 😆
@gyulaorszagh8403
@gyulaorszagh8403 Жыл бұрын
it's awesome to see someone finally utilize the triange. i just cannot for my life find out why everyone use square tubes and stuff, when the triangle has the best strength of every simple geometry.. but i'd make it simpler, less modular, and i'd make it with only 2 smoothrods at 2 edges along the triangle. also i'd print it in one piece so you don't have to tighten the modules together. can't wait to see how you'll advance with this project
@leftaroundabout
@leftaroundabout Жыл бұрын
Well, it's not hard to guess, is it? People use square-everythings because it makes everything so easy to design in a CAD with a big cartesian raster. But you're right, that is not ideal. (And it's not like more sophisticated geometries would put the software to its limit!)
@TalkingGIJoe
@TalkingGIJoe Жыл бұрын
you have to use what is available... lightweight triangle extruded shapes are hard too find...
@littlesnowflakepunk855
@littlesnowflakepunk855 Жыл бұрын
the other major reason people use squares in 3d printers is that triangular t-slot extrusions aren't nearly as common or available in as many sizes, therefore they're more expensive - and a truss like this would be even more expensive to mass manufacture
@zeendaniels5809
@zeendaniels5809 Жыл бұрын
12:30 You look completely thrilled there! And I understand you completely: There's a satisfaction looking at your idea as something real, something you can touch, something you can use... No words for it 😁👌🏼
@doughnut1107
@doughnut1107 Жыл бұрын
If you went with the hollow tubing, you could thread it on the inside to provide extra support at the ends.
@mitchellstrobbe7779
@mitchellstrobbe7779 Жыл бұрын
I definitely agree, smooth rods in the linear rail portion would definitely be better
@timlong7289
@timlong7289 Жыл бұрын
Or, you could loctite in some threaded standoffs (like the ones used to mount PC motherboards). I'm taking my inspiration from archery arrows - hollow tube with a threaded insert epoxied into the end.
@tinyfluffs
@tinyfluffs Жыл бұрын
Definitely should try a carbon fiber tube on a micro-sized track roller. I love the direction this is heading in as a concept. Sure it's not the most rigid frame in the world, but it's definitely a cool exploration!
@burgle66
@burgle66 Жыл бұрын
Your tenacity with these designs is completely insane... and sincerely inspiring. Plus yes, I would love to see you make a printer out of this system, or at least a working gantry.
@lukassembol7542
@lukassembol7542 Жыл бұрын
Yes, please, continue! When you ditch the thread, the printed wheels with pressed bearings should be enough for it to run smoothly. This could very well be the next iteration of reprap project. Just use 6x1mm ALU tube and tap for internal thread, and you're golden 🙂 The beauty of it lies in the minimal required tools - just tubing cutter, sandpaper and tap. This way you can eliminate the need for any saw or dremel with cutting disc...
@OneLiterPeter
@OneLiterPeter Жыл бұрын
So right off the bat I said to myself... Stainless Hypo-tubes instead of threaded rods. For reference, I've been a design engineer in the medical device space for the past 30+ years. As for lightening... Maybe a triangular beam that is not skeletonized but has gyroid infill, printed with one side on the build plate. That'll already make it as flat as the built plate, if it doesn't warp. I like this subject and I think you're on point thinking about the next step in 3D printing. As always, Awesome work! Thanks for sharing.
@thorgersbach698
@thorgersbach698 Жыл бұрын
Keep going with this idea, smooth hollow rods (carbon fiber, titanium or similar) with smooth bearing would make all the difference
@thorgersbach698
@thorgersbach698 Жыл бұрын
I also had the thought, for people who want formula one levels of performance you are looking at X price range but for others who are happy with the weighted version, the price is X
@247printing
@247printing Жыл бұрын
How can I "...throw more Input Shaper on it..." - I want that, I need that, I love round corners :-D
@eukaliptal
@eukaliptal Жыл бұрын
Looks cool, I like that it's modular Ideas, use the hollow steel tube: 1) at the end use a long screw and glue with J-B Weld original(or your glue of choise) 2) use one of those ball joints used in RC for the stearing, insert the side of the ball into the tube, form the tube ends to make them hug the ball, add glue if posible. The threaded side should stick out and allow you to apply tension, you can choose from steel, brass or alum.
@jasonwhite2775
@jasonwhite2775 Жыл бұрын
Try designing the segments to use 1 threaded rod through the center. Make the end segments a little more stout or a plate of some kind to allow more torque from the single rod and connecting points for the joint. For the corners, make them interlocking and completely round or what ever mating shape you want the rollers to be. OR 2 corners interlocking and 1 corner designed to hold a hollow tube for the linear rail.
@jasontrauer
@jasontrauer Жыл бұрын
This is a win win for everyone. It's entertaining, there is much to be learned through this iterative design process, and it's inspiring for everyone to see someone think differently and to approach problems in this manner. I highly recommend you continue.
@digitaldragon72
@digitaldragon72 Жыл бұрын
I would definitely like to see you pursue this idea/concept as this has great potential. It may ultimately prove to not be suited for fast 3d printing, but it will drive innovation in the industry and others that rely on motion systems.
@BrilliantDesignOnline
@BrilliantDesignOnline Жыл бұрын
I might suggest rather than an enclosed triangle ⛛ , an equilateral Y shape. Tubular roller shafts (rather than threaded) should give a better weight to strength ratio; the receiving cups could be much smaller, and use CA glue for bonding lengthways. Have the wide of triangle down on flat surface, apply CA to upwards facing leg 'cup', drop in tube, which could be held down with a milled jig to ensure straightness and uniformity of pressure while curing. Ends of tubes can be tapped as needed. Not sure about the rest since I am only a lowly Ender 3 V2 use, but fascinating to watch your design progression.
@ZeFoxii
@ZeFoxii Жыл бұрын
I would do this as a drop in replacement for a voron gantry. That way people can scale it up or down depending on their printers needs. I think a hollow steel tube would be best as you can then tap them and screw in standoffs. Keep going and make this a full build
@sl_st
@sl_st Жыл бұрын
Well done. buddy. The result is impressive. Really modular and very interesting, just like you told me earlier =)
@kofferkulli
@kofferkulli Жыл бұрын
I like the design! If it doesn't work out as a linear rail, I think this has potential for robotics as a frame. Similar to the currently often used aluminium extrusions. As you already suggested, tubes instead of threaded rods might be a good alternative. If the wall thickness of the tube is thick enough, an inner thread instead of an outer thread could be used to tension the stacked modules. This has the benefit of using a smaller thread than one would need for an outer thread. (Hope this makes sense) However, the tubes then need to be shorter as the stacked modules.
@PhotonCast
@PhotonCast Жыл бұрын
Yes! Watching your thought process and progression will be excellent!
@EaSImpact
@EaSImpact Жыл бұрын
Love, how it looks like! Thanks for the video!
@MartinDanilo-mk7on
@MartinDanilo-mk7on Жыл бұрын
This is my first comment ever. I think there might be a misunderstanding with light as possible. The static parts should be as heavy as possible. Different materials should help with dampening the vibration. Only the moving parts should be light and stiff.
@properprinting
@properprinting Жыл бұрын
True that! This reminds me of a video Tom Sanladerer once made where he filled his extrusions with sand. Maybe I can make closed segments which you can fill up xD
@MartinDanilo-mk7on
@MartinDanilo-mk7on Жыл бұрын
Yes, I always thought Tom is called SANDladerer ;) he should have left out the moving parts.
@tslee8236
@tslee8236 Жыл бұрын
​​@@properprinting You can refer to X1C's implementation for inspiration. It may save you some time. By the way, Winston Moy did the same with a Shapeoko CNC 3 years ago. You can find it on his channel.
@tslee8236
@tslee8236 Жыл бұрын
Yes. The static structure must be able to absorb the forces generated during acceleration and deceleration. A heavier structure will reduce the magnitude of any vibration. I vaguely remember someone suggest using magnets as dampeners. The generated force can be minimised by reducing the weight of moving parts in the first place. Another thing to watch out for is the natural resonance frequency of the moving parts. The printer's frequencies of speed changes should not overlap with it.
@kittrelleberwine
@kittrelleberwine Жыл бұрын
Id love to see this scaled up. Doesnt seem like the best option for going fast but still could make building large printers much cheaper. For example a 500mm sized printer, would be great to see.
@timkn6147
@timkn6147 Жыл бұрын
Don’t get discouraged! There is no innovation without frustration. I personally enjoy watching your progress.
@ChrisHarmon1
@ChrisHarmon1 Жыл бұрын
This is an awesome idea with excellent implementation. I think instead of buying 100% threaded rod we should try to find some smooth steel rods(think Prusa style linear rods) that can easily be threaded with a DIE. Ideally sizes that can threaded directly or by just removing the surface finish/chrome with a file/grinder/belt sander. I'm picturing some sort of bearing harness that allows you to rotate it easily to get an even finish for threading with the DIE. If it catches on I'm sure China will eventually sell cheap pre-threaded rods but until then I personally would prefer stronger smooth rods over 100% threaded. They would likely be more concentric as well.
@alexhills8149
@alexhills8149 Жыл бұрын
it is amazing how fast you have grown! Congrats! you earned it! Keep the cool projects coming!!!
@ericblenner-hassett3945
@ericblenner-hassett3945 Жыл бұрын
YES! More Videos!! You are on the right track, for the scale look at how to make the trusses with hollow tube without becoming breakable. I believe you are on the right direction by making them like Lighting trusses.
@JernD
@JernD Жыл бұрын
I like this idea, but I don't think that printing them in small segments makes much sense. The printed pieces are probably heavier and less stiff as a result of being small segments. I would recommend that you create a parametric CAD version that generates some unit length printed truss (if you haven't already). I also think that using advanced vase-mode techniques can get you maximum strength to weight ratio. I recently released some advanced vase-mode cylinders on printables for model rocketry that have built-in strengthening ribs as part of the CAD model and are printed purely in vase-mode. I can't post the link here unfortunately but the model name is "Advanced Vase-Mode Hollow Cylinders (model rocketry related)" if you search it should come up.
@jonathanherrmann1906
@jonathanherrmann1906 Жыл бұрын
Great video from real and honest development. Thank you!
@Ronald01Peters
@Ronald01Peters Жыл бұрын
I like the way you think completely out of the box, and try before the project dies. please don't give up
@HybridRobotix
@HybridRobotix 5 ай бұрын
I would love to see you go further with this! Take this as far as you can.
@ledocteur7701
@ledocteur7701 Жыл бұрын
I think even if it doesn't turn out to be any better, it's still a really cool modular building system. what I would personally do is not prioritize weight, and try to focus more on improving modularity and ease of use. modular systems are jack of all trades, unless extremely specific condition, a purpose-built system at equal cost will always perform better. if you want to make it lighter you might want to look into topology optimization for your 3D printed segments.
@MichaelMacGyver
@MichaelMacGyver Жыл бұрын
Really cool idea, the customizable frame design seems like it'd be really useful for things like enclosures, hope you keep iterating to see where you can go with it. Another idea would be instead of trying to start from scratch and designing your own linear rail system, maybe you could look at an existing linear rail and see what the bare minimum that you could add to it to turn it into a gantry, combining the best of both worlds (a proven effective rail design and a cheap yet lightweight extrusion to attach it to).
@mitsre
@mitsre Жыл бұрын
Yes! For sure don't stop this project!!👍👍👍
@yates009
@yates009 Жыл бұрын
Yes, please continue. This work is inspiring.
@r_u_3d
@r_u_3d Жыл бұрын
I would love to see you go on with this project! Well done as always.
@totallyclipz7015
@totallyclipz7015 Жыл бұрын
I absolutely want to see this entire process to completion! Keep going. That's a cool system!
@earthwormjim
@earthwormjim Жыл бұрын
Yes I want to see more of this!! The best youtube videos are where the creator has expended the maximum amount of effort into a design, that ends up being a regression and worse off in every measurable way compared with an existing product! This isn't sarcasm, I enjoyed every minute of this video, and love the design despite its flaws.
@crazybeaver5789
@crazybeaver5789 Жыл бұрын
Holy yes please continue the build it looks awsome
@davidduffin154
@davidduffin154 Жыл бұрын
Love your content Jon. Always looking for a new Vid from you. Wish you would do more but always worth the wait for the gold. This again is exceptional in always, especially your offbeat humour. Fav 3d print channel, cheers from Tasmania
@AJLaRocque54
@AJLaRocque54 Жыл бұрын
It is with great admiration that I indulge in the captivating content of your videos. Your thought processes and intricate designs are a true inspiration. As a future hobbyist, I intend to procure a 3-D printer to pursue similar creative endeavors. Therefore, I urge you to persist in your efforts, as the knowledge that you impart through your experiments will undoubtedly bear fruit in the long run. Moreover, I must add that your channel is highly entertaining, and I have subscribed with great anticipation for the forthcoming videos.
@szeref
@szeref Жыл бұрын
You had my curiosity, now you have my attention. Keep up the work!
@JohnnyYenn
@JohnnyYenn Жыл бұрын
I always get so pumped when I see you have a new video out!!! 🤘
@iulianhagea5815
@iulianhagea5815 Жыл бұрын
Criminally underated CHANEL!!!!!😢 keep up to good work.I love your content❤
@gr8rpwrs
@gr8rpwrs Жыл бұрын
Love it! Very cool idea, and it would be awesome to see this concept progress into the full project you were hinting at! I wonder if a single rod down the middle would provide the necessary compression and stiffness with the 3D printed trusses providing the tension. Although, it might not allow for the smoothest of tracks for the bearings. I'd like to see your ideas for improving on this though.
@AndreaMunegato
@AndreaMunegato Жыл бұрын
I love it! Please continue with this idea!
@seabeepirate
@seabeepirate Жыл бұрын
Nice! I’ve been thinking about something with a similar form factor but larger for long and rigid DIY CNC rails.
@peterhlebnikov3814
@peterhlebnikov3814 11 ай бұрын
Keep going it’s amazing 🤩 get the small steel rollers and the smooth rods with thread on the ends. Look forward to the next video thanks 🙏
@MrGenobeen
@MrGenobeen Жыл бұрын
Yes keep going, love this channel and like your methodology.
@brandb16
@brandb16 Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see how far this project can go. The original open source concept for 3D printers was to make a machine that make more machines. I think you're on the right track. It's super cool what you're doing, even if it's not the lightest setup, weight is not the only factor for printing well and with speed. Consider using carbon fiber rods. Cheaply available online.
@chazbennett7771
@chazbennett7771 Жыл бұрын
Please continue this! I'd absolutely love to learn from what u end up doing so that I could maybe make a whole printer that's light and easy to bring around someday! Also, it might be interesting to integrate the threaded rods for tool head movement. If you did that though I'm almost certain that you'd lose the core xy system that the voron has
@nathanb62
@nathanb62 Жыл бұрын
I love how your brain works and the determination.
@coderentity2079
@coderentity2079 Жыл бұрын
Do it. Speed of one isn't important. Just do one, print the next one with it, boom double speed. Have two nozzles on the same gantry, have two gantries with two nozzles, check their combined speed. Have 1+2. Use 0.6 for filling, 0.2 for outer shell plus a 0.2 water soluable. Lower the number of corner kinds by using a square. Make the interconnecting plastic parts lighter (no extra holes) and longer (less work to assemble). Have a version of interconnecting parts that don't expose the rods - only the gantry needs that, and would make the rest stiffer. Awesome project!
@MakerViking
@MakerViking Жыл бұрын
Great video Jon! I would love to see how far you could get with this.
@Gulsifer
@Gulsifer Жыл бұрын
I love new designs whether it works or not. Amazing video.
@checho00o.
@checho00o. Жыл бұрын
As you say at the end, maybe scaling it up would do the job As it guest bigger it gets lighter in comparison with the linear rails since they are entirely made out of stainless, where getting bigger means more still while this in the other hand have all that empty spaces
@mathiasrennochaves3533
@mathiasrennochaves3533 Жыл бұрын
I think the Lego 3d printer concept is really interesting and definitely worth it. Maybe you won't get the fastest or lightest or even the most precise 3D printer out there, but I think that the best of Lego is their capacity of give a lot of freedom of creation coupled with great practicality. I think you should aim at that.
@Diabl0pl
@Diabl0pl Жыл бұрын
I'm intrigued. I'm waiting for an update on that!
@paulmcnulty4309
@paulmcnulty4309 Жыл бұрын
I think your design is awesome! Would love to see this go further!
@narlyb1500
@narlyb1500 Жыл бұрын
I would love to see you take this further,
@timfalken3886
@timfalken3886 Жыл бұрын
Have you ever seen the Positron? It's also got some clever ideas to print even faster--the most important, I think, is printing upside down to keep the print head as low as possible, reducing the wobble of the frame. The bed is then upside-down, which seems to work just fine. Maybe some of the concepts used there could serve as inspiration for your project? Combine an ultra-light frame with a low center of mass, and a low printhead that can dash back and forth without shaking the frame apart.
@liamkrueger9625
@liamkrueger9625 Жыл бұрын
Definitely has potential! I would love to see your version of a mostly 3D printed 3D printer. I know the Mulbot and some others already exist but your design skill is just on another level
@circleofowls
@circleofowls Жыл бұрын
I really love this modular truss design, it may not be the absolute best for a specific use case but it has a TON of potential for a general purpose building system.
@lhhc20
@lhhc20 Жыл бұрын
Try to replace the threaded rod with round stock and get a die to put the threads on the ends just where you need them. I think putting sleeves over threaded rod will just increase the size and weight.
@freman
@freman Жыл бұрын
Good sir, I'm just here for the ride, I will appreciate watching whatever you explore. I personally won't probably make anything you do directly but things you discover along the way could be incorporated into what I do.
@666nacirema666
@666nacirema666 Жыл бұрын
Very cool. Would for sure like to see more.
@themidwayproject6207
@themidwayproject6207 Жыл бұрын
I like where you are going with this. I want to start making irregular shaped and sized custom printers, and this sparks some ideas. Thanks for the video!
@vinylbiffa
@vinylbiffa Жыл бұрын
As for modular printer construction, this is if nothing else coolest looking thing I have seen in a good while. Love to see more.
@AllenAHat
@AllenAHat Жыл бұрын
Keep going. The design looks great.
@xXKisskerXx
@xXKisskerXx Жыл бұрын
I'd be interested in seeing this more. I also had the idea of smooth rods with threaded ends and concave bearings to roll against them, in hopes it would be smoother. as for lighter... .i think that's an as-you-go situation. unless your printing in aluminum or other lightweight yet sturdy metal or alloy, I don't see an easy solution all around, but step by step improvements as you go. Finding that a solution doesn't work, back to design for it , or perhaps finding a lightweight metal solution to replace it with, etc.
@nirajahmed7398
@nirajahmed7398 Жыл бұрын
Definitely would love to see more.
@LazorzPewPew
@LazorzPewPew Жыл бұрын
This is a great video. Your CAD skills are top notch, especially the ability to make that complex corner piece printable without supports. The idea itself is great and I would love to see more of it. Smooth titanium rods are definitely the way to go. As far as filament goes, here are some things to things to think of. For Stiffness, from most stiff to least, there is (Carbon Fiber Filament, HIPS, PLA, Poly Carbonate and then everything else). For Density from lowest to highest ( Polypropylene 0.9 g/cm3, HIPS 1.03 g/cm3, ABS 1.04 g/cm3, Nylon 1.06- 1.14 g/cm3, ASA 1.07 g/cm3) and then everything else). For Strength from strongest to weakest (PVA, Polycarbonate. Nylon, PLA, ASA, PETG and then everything else). For Durability from most durable to least, (Nylon, Polycarb, ASA, Polypropylene, ABS, PETG, HIPS, PVA For a part that needs to be stiff and light but not necessarily durable (Carbon Fiber Filament) For a part that needs to be light and durable but not necessarily stiff (ASA or Nylon) For a part that needs to be stiff and durable and light (HIPS) You can find more material info on Simplify3d's resources page.
@illRun4Clownident
@illRun4Clownident Жыл бұрын
Some ideas: -use fiber reinforced polypropylene for stiffness and light weight. -use stainless steel tubes and a thread former (not cutter) for the tention threads. you can also still make your design smaller and maybe give the sections some interlocking features.
@biarkiw
@biarkiw Жыл бұрын
I love this truss idea, while it may not be the best option for a 3d printer, I still think you should try and make it one, I'm interested to see other uses for this sort of system, where the truss structure can be taken better advantage of
@Zachary3DPrints
@Zachary3DPrints Жыл бұрын
This is amazing, YES continue with that design and make some changes where needed. I love the way it looks!
@DirtyShirt1914
@DirtyShirt1914 Жыл бұрын
You're the man! Love what you are working on. It seems to me that you are very close to a design that has the potential to take a 3d printed 3d printer to the next level. I say press on, what you're doing is really cool.
@knucklehead83
@knucklehead83 Ай бұрын
Did you ever do a comparison of the assembled portals? It seems that the truss would have a more uniform stiffness. The base gantry is going to be stronger in the wide plane than the narrow plane by a large margin. I would like to see some strength tests done on your trusses. I considered something similar for building a 4' x 8' CNC router gantry. Only using MDF instead of printed plastic. I think you should(maybe you already have) keep going on this idea. Even if you don't make something revolutionary, you might come up with something that could make building homebrew 3D printers more accessible.
@oswaldcobblebot
@oswaldcobblebot Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I really appreciate how you document failing, but at the same time - failing beautifully1 To try is to do!
@tsstn
@tsstn Жыл бұрын
John, you are a MAD GENIUS. I love the look of this system you have pioneered here.I see huge potential. Maybe the lighter faster result will be what you achieve, but certainly, this could be scaled up to make a very large printer. And I do mean VERY large. Like print a dashboard large. Or maybe as a gantry for a cnc router.
@freedomcaller
@freedomcaller Жыл бұрын
I would watch at least one more video on these trusses. They just look so cool!
@chevrerde
@chevrerde Жыл бұрын
Off course we want to see the full build!!!
@Leo99929
@Leo99929 Жыл бұрын
I appreciate the innovation, and sharing things that don't work is almost MORE important than sharing what does, because that prevents other people from wasting their time and effort.
@hor4tio124
@hor4tio124 Жыл бұрын
Hey John, I would like to see digging in the world of speed printing. You're doing very unique videos, which I always enjoy to watch! Can't wait to see your other ideas/projects.
@Vbeck56
@Vbeck56 Жыл бұрын
Anything you do is super interesting. Just keep making videos!!!!
@luke_fabis
@luke_fabis Жыл бұрын
Look into Arris Composites. They specialize in conformal, compression molded carbon fiber composites. The performance of parts manufactured with their technology is honestly ridiculous; light, stiff, and resilient as hell. And since they're mostly carbon fiber, they're also electrically conductive, so parts can behave as their own strain sensors. I've never seen anything like it. The only drawback is tooling. But it could be a game changer for high performance FDM printers.
@donrozwick7367
@donrozwick7367 Жыл бұрын
Please continue investigating this design. It is really cool.
@michaelschaub
@michaelschaub Жыл бұрын
I love the idea. I was considering something similar once. However, it is not a reasonable way forward: Tests with 3D Printed parts show, that the stiffness of any printed material is not sufficient. When you upscale it or you try to go for higher speeds, it will introduce wobble. Now you add some stiffness with your metal rods, but this again adds weight. Way easier: Buy a 2cm x 2cm carbon fiber pipe and mount a linear rail to it. The endproduct is lighter. The stiffness is increadible - even if you upscale to a large format printer. These pipes are standard parts, meaning they are affordable. What you get is greater stiffness, less weight, less effort and a concept that works for every printer size.
@makerus
@makerus Жыл бұрын
That’s without a doubt the coolest thing I’ve seen today! Please continue with your research since I don’t have the time for it. 😢
@DarlingAFK
@DarlingAFK Жыл бұрын
this is without a doubt the most interesting idea ive seen in a very long time
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