FDM resin printing: Game changer or stupid?

[@properprinting]

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[@jonathanmyers8477]

To get the resin to better sit where it is extruded, you might try adding a low boiling point solvent and using the part cooling or heater block to boil it off just after extrusion. Hexane or IPA might be perfect. Of course, it might ruin the resin.

[@woodwaker1]

What size nozzle are you using? You could ask Max for suggestions

[@michaelherron362]

Once things are better worked out, an obvious suggestion would be to replace the attached lasers with a fiber optic light feed. LEDs might be cheaper too.

[@ThomasIJsseldijk]

try adding grinded down cured resin as a thickening agent. should have the same density as uncured resin.

[@Doktoreq]

Moving the UV light out of the nozzle should improve things quite a bit - less resin stuck to the nozzle means less failures and more consistent "extrusion". Ideal setup would be ring light like arrangement where the nozzle stays dark and the curing process starts some distance from the nozzle. Might be worth experimenting with using clear resin prints as a light pipe (transparent plastic part stuck to the LEDs).

[@TheMrRockOn]

You, my guy, are on WHOOOOLE another level.... The creativity in your brain is just out of this world for both Video (editing and ideas) and Engineering. Hands down.

[@properprinting]

Thanks man, really appreciated!

[@DeanTheDoctor]

Thanks for saying that my friend. 😇🌎✨

[@ssean4005]

Could u please share the STL model of the extruder online???? thanks

[@marsgizmo]

pretty cool progress 👏😎 ..love your hidden humor, always cracks me 😂

[@properprinting]

Thanks Adrian!

[@sikz26300]

I kept pausing the video and going back to make sure i didn't miss any easter eggs lol

[@Sovol]

We are glad to sponsor this video! I really admire your interesting idea and the ability to work it out! Additionally, hope to see more people check out the SV06 by the link in the description of the video😁

[@properprinting]

I'm glad you sponsored it! Thanks! I also hope that they do, we we're surprised by this printer and it showed that you put thought into it.

[@squirlboy250]

How do you feel about 3D printed firearms?

[@alestbest]

Do you really think you could print a firearm with resin? Rather, you can print a brain. You can get your hopes up.

[@Demonicwolf9]

@@squirlboy250 dangerously stupid

[@squirlboy250]

@@Demonicwolf9 No, not at all. We have came a long way in tech and there is a lot of really good people out there putting in the work. I was asking for his opinion on the subject matter and nothing more.

[@KosmoGoat]

I remember seeing a printer with same concept as this at FormNext last year by Massivit 3D. As far as I recall they use a photocurable and water-soluble "gel" with exactly the same process for hardening as shown here. They also have a second extruder with thermoset resin. So you can print a soluble mold with this uv-fdm process and fill it with thermoset resin at the same time. Anyway, it's an amazing start!

[@jzagaja]

So instant curing or after finishing the layer?

[@ulrichkliegis4138]

What is the patent scenario around this concept? Patent attorneys can be painfully humorless.

[@jzagaja]

@@ulrichkliegis4138 ViscoTec Pumpen- u. Dosiertechnik Gmb produces Moineau pump extruder called vipro-HEAD, around 4k euro.

[@ulrichkliegis4138]

@@jzagaja What does this have to do with a potential patent conflict situation?

[@jzagaja]

@@ulrichkliegis4138 same principle?

[@scottylore13]

This project is amazing. To prevent the resin from sticking to the nozzle, a cone around the nozzle might help or angle the UV lights in a different way. Ensuring there is no way the resin cures near the nozzle. As others already pointed out an enclosure might help as well to avoid unwanted light and keep the temperature more constant. Best regards

[@Spectron2077]

I was thinking a little of that ptfe coating stuff that slice engineering sells or ptfe spray applied to the nozle using a towel.

[@TheEdgeofTech]

Another killer video man! It's so awesome to see your ideas and goals working!! I can't wait to see where you take this!

[@Personnenenparle]

To get more control on the flow, you should try a couple things. 1. Funnel feeding 2. Stronger pump that feeds an elaßtic reservoir like a think silicone tube 3. A pinch valve. I used that setup to make a reaserch platform for molecular gastronomy, it works great.

[@testboga5991]

That would be highly nonlinear and not a good idea at all.

[@allangibson8494]

Or just a standard motor driven syringe system with a 1mm bore capillary tube to the print head.

[@802Garage]

So is the goal to basically print resin impregnated yarn?

[@properprinting]

Yes!

[@haenselundgretel654]

Soooooo good to see that you're making progress. I hope to see more fine tuning and where this train rides to. I wish you all the best !

[@kareemelabkary7611]

Never stop experimenting, omg this is what the community needs! more creative people who are willing to push the limits of current technology while thinking outside the box!!

[@jasonwalker6825]

LOL "how can we do resin printing, but worse?" I'm genuinely shocked you got it printing as well as you did

[@rubendj90]

Bedankt

[@properprinting]

Jij ook bedankt!

[@powersv2]

The production level goes up every video. The yarn and project board were the nice touch this time.

[@dans-designs]

I was expecting the Whiteboard to fall off the wall as your friend closed the door! I am a little disappointed but still love the video!! 😅

[@properprinting]

This crossed our minds, but that thing was so damn heavy😆

[@voltzFPV]

I was having a bad day.. Until this video's notification came! Thanks for uploading these awesome "adventures" of yours!

[@strictnonconformist7369]

Congratulations on taking a standard FDM printer, adding some fun chemistry/materials and added hardware, and creating the beast of both worlds! Surprisingly good results thus far. The challenges are it seems to be subject to the failure modes you can expect from both types of printing and printers combined, including the issue of the fumes you need to avoid breathing. Hopefully it can be figured out well enough to counter the cost of the problems with better results than either type alone can do. I see your methodology and if it can be done, it won't be too long before it is done. Sovol must love watching their printers being hacked like this! Should you get it working well enough, perhaps they'll sell a kit based off your work.

[@Tritiumfusion]

I've been hype about this video FOR MORE THAN 2 WEEKS!

[@neyperes5332]

Congrats, my friend! That's a fantástic beginning and contribuition for the marker comunity. Looking foward for the next vídeos about It!

[@ЕмилБорисов-ю7н]

I love how you stay consistent and growing! Keep it up!

[@marcom1600]

Simply AMAZING. Hope you get it perfect and someone sponsor your idea in the market. You deserve it👍

[@TurboSunShine]

Nice! Looking forward to seeing the continuous fiber printing! :D

[@whdhdi8738]

I get so excited about your designs and show my friends but none of them know anything about 3D printing so it all just sounds ordinary to them... I can't even begin to explain the level of engineering involved! I love your videos, they keep me so inspired!

[@LCM4x4]

You should use silica to thicken the resin. It's what we use in the industry if we need a resin to be more viscous. The glass bubbles are used in similar lines, but reduce strength etc. The silica powder is also translucent so should cure even better.

[@thomaswiley666]

Would it help to build a scrubber (like an upside down toothbrush) off to one side of the build plate that could scrub the nozzle after 'X' number of layers? The only issue is how to mount it so that the print head doesn't have to travel up and down in X, Y, and Z to achieve the nozzle cleaning and return back to printing layer in a lot of time? One thought: Since this is a bed-slinger test bed, You could mount the scrubber on the Z traverse bar and a simple gcode routine of sending the nozzle all the to the right, and a little back and forth motion could scrub it and then send it back to the printing area at the new layer height.

[@انا_ابراهيم_البناوي]

The best thing is that the patent for this kind of 3D printing has expired so that means companies can make and sell these printers

[@artisticmike]

Try angling the uv lights so that the beam is at least a few mm from the nozzle. And at that point I think you could use a little less thickener to keep it from balling up, because those uv lights seem to cure pretty fast.

[@vanlife4256]

You are super awesome! You have the right recipe! Patience, Persistence and Perseverance! I’m so proud of you!

[@seanygh1]

This is the start of a game changer, i will be watching your progress, keep the the good work.

[@chyrt]

A complete rim with fdm resin continous fiber!?!? You are madman! A genius madman that is

[@MA775M17H]

More amazing than the printing is how you can also film it and tell the story. If I was working on a project like this it would definitely be stuff absolutely everywhere. I am always amazed how people make such innovative projects at the same time as making entertaining content. When I build somthing everything is a mess untill its done. (Typically half done)

[@I.no.ah.guy57]

This is awesome! Can't wait to see it improved! Keep working on it!

[@Leon_Dawin4e]

На самом деле Чел, практически, воспроизвёл состав стоматологических пломб, там тоже используется фото полимер и пудра из стеклянных микросфер. То что уже заметно - при такой технологии слои не так выражены , по с прилипанием материала к соплу нужно что-то делать, хз может они догадаются делать сопло из тефлона (нагрева-то нет). Моне ещё кажется не совсем целесообразным, использовать такие тонкие шланги, в то время , как печатаемая смесь довольно густая примерно как паста. На мой взгляд, нужно было брать трубки с большим сечением, или делать загрузку напрямую голове принтера, чтобы сократить путь полимера до сопла.

[@Leon_Dawin4e]

@officialBv3d Aren 't you tired of it ?

[@nunosantiago6720]

No one has ever done it better so... until someone comes up with good looking parts using CDM, those are high quality prints : ) Great video as usual.

[@impressions3d]

Use AEROSIL 200 for thixing the resin (high viscosity when still, lower viscosity when moving). And Byk Chemie for Wetting and dispersing and anti settling additive.

[@properprinting]

That's interesting, thanks for your suggestion!

[@erosion01]

I figured it out, his bun is an additional brain

[@vygag]

you could control precisely the amount of resin by using system like in diesel cars "common rail" the nozzle is opened/closed electronically while pump just keeps the right amount of pressure

[@properprinting]

Daunting, yet interesting🤔

[@MacGuyver84]

A quick question. What does the resin even cured not stick to. Because your end does not need to be a hot end.

[@jmsaltzman]

Impressive! Thanks for sharing this adventure, I didn't think you were going to get it to work at all :D

[@reinholdu9909]

_"Vamos a la playa"_ and the usual right soundtrack ... You guys nailed another one! - YES I *enjoyed* this journey with you two: *cured* 😎

[@matikowalczyk00]

Two minutes into the video I hit the like button. Love the storytelling, and the project is very interesting

[@filthmaster9936]

To me it looks like there is some shadow under the nozzle where it isnt curing instantly, perhaps getting the lasers closer to it will cure faster and prevent it from sticking to the nozzle.

[@properprinting]

You've seen correct! In the previous attempt I showed my monkey brain solution to cast a shadow there. I have an idea for a different, yet quite similar approach ;)

[@RailyardProductions]

@@properprinting I wonder if sending the laser through a fiber optic cable might help?

[@TommyHoughton]

Incredible Cinematography, awesome video!

[@SamBirchenough]

wow the edit and production is sooo good !!! inspiring

[@zumuvtuber]

Considering the difficulty of this project, I'd say that last benchy is extremely impressive! Great work! 😁

[@Dawin4e]

This material is very similar to the composition for tomatological fillings.

[@RedRavenRuler]

Love the update and can't wait to see you achieve the end goal!

[@felixgarber6880]

check the frame at min 08:12. i like the shadow circle around the nozzle maybe it can prevent clogging

[@Cinemaaereo]

Hi. Once I had this idea and I tried to do it with UV Leds and a syringe for the resin. I used clear resin to continue curing after the nozzle was on another layer and used a "hat" to protect the nozzle from UV light. See you.

[@illariawashburn]

This is what the 3D printing sphere needs, more weird experimental printers, just like there were in the beginning

[@johnduerr2196]

what if you used a curing light on the bottom of the bed, like the resin printers? you could potentially cure the bottom later more easily

[@properprinting]

That's an interesting thought. I think that the risk of curing inside of the nozzle will be increased though. I still have to find the best possible print surface for this.

[@medienmond]

if u use a resin bottle with one pipe directly to the nozzle dpped to the very bottom into the resin and one pipe into the bottle from the top only 2 cm in the air inside the bottle, and then pressure the second pipe with higher pressure air from your pump, the resin does not have to go through your pump. think about curing in a different pass when printing, then you can use more fluid resin.

[@divyajnana]

Incredible job working out the mixture and the viscosities. "Aquarium decoration," I was thinking the same thing, made me laugh.

[@Nocare89]

The production value here is top tier. Keep it up. Certainly a fun concept

[@mr702s]

A mini paste extruder that cures with UV instead of heat, well done!

[@knutruben1]

Your editing and production is on a nother level my guy! Also thanks for trying this out so I wont have to:)

[@woodwaker1]

Looks like a concrete printer. Love the barnacle benchy. Thanks for the time at ERRF

[@janebrown7430]

What do you think about the sovol Sv06? Is it good for a beginner

[@properprinting]

I can honestly say that I'm impressed with it and it's clear that they put thought into it. I am off course biased, but I'm going to use this printer for my regular PLA and PETG prints. To answer your second question, yes this is good for a beginner. IMO better than most printers we own if not the best due to its easy assembly and the way the bed is leveled (no leveling knobs)

[@janebrown7430]

got it, I may get one during the sale, thank you for the recommendation

[@WhamBamSystems]

wow such amazing research and journey. I love your scientific trial and error approach, as well as your controlled chaos creative design thinking!

[@Warhawk76]

Just found your channel with this video. Thanks to the YT algorithm for bringing me a real gem! Such a cool idea for resin FDM printing, really out of the box thinking. Love it!!

[@jakobfindlay4136]

Looks like the new issue is resin sticking to the nozzle, maybe some kind of non stick coating on the nozzle would help

[@theredstormer8078]

Although I can't think of a single practical application for this I've always wondered if it's possible and I'm happy to see there's somebody doing it for once! Still, the only advantage I can think of is the possibility of better bridging and development of future processes but that doesn't make it any less exciting.

[@tronique5736]

I think you could get really good results here with a few adjustments - screw pump gravity fed by a hopper - higher viscosity resin mix - shade the nozzle so that resin stuck to it doesn't cure - more light intensity and slower print speed

[@ericlotze7724]

Can Hacking an Inkjet be the next phase?

[@properprinting]

Well that would be interesting!

[@hipjoeroflmto4764]

Loving every second of ur production

[@eraldylli]

What a year this channel has had. Very impressing.

[@deucedeuce1572]

14:10 ... They may not look great... but are they durable?

[@PawelTylinski]

proposed amendments: 1.instead of a pump, use a container with a plunger (such as a syringe) pushed by a screw - better control of the flow and dosing of the medium 2.stiff tubes - walls resistant to pressure (again better flow control) 3.pipes splitter just before the print head (easy change of printing material) 4. (optional) degassing of the material in the vacuum chamber before filling the feeders.

[@JosephCooperNightcore]

I'm really amazed to see how far you are making progress. This custom made resin and the whole process with the pump could technically work on bigger scale, similar to industrial cement printers

[@properprinting]

Thanks! Yes I'm pumped about the possibilities this enables!

[@mattieo2844]

I'm amazed. This could be a revolutionary new 3d printer category. In fact I'm sure it will be. This is actually so cool and fascinating. I'm sure once this is well done out it could compete in the same way fdm and resin do. It'll be the same case of that this has certain advantages over the other, so in certain applications it'll be better. Truly amazing

[@properprinting]

Thanks! It's fun to experiment with this and come up with new insights of what's possible. I'm convinced that we're going to find some interesting applications!

[@ocieward]

I love how speechless you get when one of your endeavors finally works :)

[@efnick96]

This guy is on another freaking level. Great ideas and implementation man, keep it up.

[@TheNextDecade]

As a guy who had to work on Ipro8000's, and now consumer level fdm... Try accura extreme white or watershed clear if you can get a hold of them. Their viscosity and photosensitivity may be the best solution to some of these issues you are having. Thanks for the Stroopwaffels at ERRF too!

[@properprinting]

Thanks for your suggestion! Also, you're welcome!

[@vectorentertainment1733]

I subscribed less than 3 minutes in, this is great so far

[@twentyfoursevenmusic5064]

The best yt channel in the best country

[@username9774]

mabey you can make a solid epoxy first layer

[@aterxter3437]

about continuous fiber printing, with thermoplastics, I did my own thinkering : 1st, except if the fiber can be streched under high enough temperature, the filament diameter will have to be the nozzle diameter, elseway, you will have too much plastic in the nozzle not being able to freely flow. 2nd using continous copper fiber coextruded with PLA or PETG could add the functionnality of working electical connections in print, though the fiber filament may need to be wrapped aroud a star-shape terminal to ensure that an electrical terminal gets direct contact to the copper fibers 3rd for the coextrusion process, I though about pultruding a pet ribbon along a stripped electrical wire in a 0.8mm nozzle, a 0.22 mm2 wire have a diameter of 0.5mm, leaving space but also not too much for the PET aroun it

[@planecrazy03]

this might be way off topic but where did you get the whiteboard mounting brackets from? anyway to share?

[@codyhufstetler643]

I keep a jar of glass microballoons on my desk at work for the sole reason that if you shake it, air gets trapped between them, and it behaves like a fluid for a few seconds until the air works its way out. It's fun to play with

[@properprinting]

I can imagine, this stuff is so weird! Your comment reminds me a bit of those snow globes.

[@BrilliantDesignOnline]

EXCELLENT. Seems a bit smaller nozzle, and possibly an internal check-valve that requires a bit of pressure to allow goo passage, but with no back pressure shuts off.

[@robb233]

I've seen this idea floating around for some nice. Nice to see a diy approach.

[@Enjoymentboy]

This is a really interesting and intriguing series. It really makes the imagination run wild. I wonder if the peristaltic pump might work better if the resin is stored in a reservoir above the pump to allow for gravity feed instead of forcing the pump to draw the resin upwards against gravity. You could even incorporate a mixing mechanism to keep the resin from separating before it is pumped.

[@inifin8]

Instead of using hotend nozzle your could use the pipe itself that thins to 0.8mm

[@PhysicsDude]

Consider a syringe pump. They are ideal for precise linear dosing. Peristaltic pumps are generally pulsatile and best for precise bulk transfers.

[@properprinting]

Thanks for your suggestion. I designed a non-pulsating pump ;) I like that nothing, except for the tube, comes in contact with the resin and it doesn't have a limited volume.

[@sreenieadara841]

A nozzle made from Delrin or PTFE might get less resin stuck to it, or maybe spraying the brass nozzle with non-stick (like the stuff used on pans) would be enough?

[@properprinting]

I'm going to make a custom nozzle which has a parallel tip to make the angle 90 degrees. I hope that this will be better already. This will not be like a syringe needle though since that is too flexible.

[@fartboxinspector]

Maybe use a magnetic stirrer to keep the particles in suspension

[@properprinting]

I think that it needs a stirrer indeed. I hope I can find an additive with the same density as the resin.

[@ogaugeclockwork4407]

Great work! Vacuum pump the mixed resin to get the entrained air out of it.

[@nullexxx]

What if you "wiped" with the UV light between layers? Is it possible to add a bit of retract as well?

[@faxxzc]

You’re so creative! Meanwhile other youtuber‘s biggest accomplishment is printing things at 1000%

[@deucedeuce1572]

Still impressive... and has POTENTIAL for future research and technology. I have absolutely no doubt this could be a step in the direction to something better than both FDM and resin printing. (and it could lead to much stronger resin prints that can have much more strength than FDM or any plastic).

[@eazeh]

Video Quality :10/10.

[@B1GJano]

very cool video! Love to see where this goes from here!

[@Karlemilstorm]

Try adding a shade around the tip of the nozzle. That could help reduce the clogging

[@properprinting]

There already is one, but it's the monkey brain solution I tried in our previous attempt. I have an interesting idea to improve this! ;)

[@HonestAuntyElle]

I've had this idea kicking around for ages of a dual nozzle FDM and Resin printer. FDM to draw vasemode, Resin for the infill.

[@75keg75]

Small scale MASSIVit printer. 3d print nerd had it on his channel. Could you use heat make the resin more liquid? So then you can tie flow rate to temp for any resin. Overhang free prints too…

[@properprinting]

An interesting subject would be to heat up the resin to print extremely high viscous yet high performance resins! This would only work if the additive is not the weakest point though.

[@KilianGosewisch]

I don't know if this is premature optimization, but i would try using stiffer tube before and after the pump so you can prevent ballooning of the tube.

[@Project-Air]

Crazy stuff! Such a funny video 😂

[@properprinting]

Thanks James!

[@anticom1337]

I would shield the nozzle from the UV light to avoid curing it while the resin mixture is touching the nozzle. It should be thick enough to not flow away if the curing starts like .1 seconds after being dispensed.

[@firezenk]

This is impressive, another level!

[@DenysChura]

I would avoid using mirror reflective printing surface when working with lasers😅

[@properprinting]

Yes, but only for functionality reasons😆

[@DenysChura]

@@properprinting You need to build enclosure then, we care about your eyesight 👀

[@properprinting]

@@DenysChura oh yes, eventually there will be an enclosure for it. For now I make sure that I've got my goggles on and nobody else is in the room during my experiments.