Pros Cons of Mobile ED Empire Total War

[@captainkielbasa5471]

we got empire TW mobile before Empire 2

[@FaramirsRangers]

I will be dead before Empire 2 comes out

[@captainkielbasa5471]

@FaramirsRangers same

[@esjb1191]

Even before a Empire total war multiplayer campaign. I,m so annoyed that they dident even add a multiplayer campaign for rtw1 remastered. Noone of the good games gets one :(

[@FaramirsRangers]

They hate us I think :)

[@nsawatchlistbait289]

We want a port to the damn PC

[@FaramirsRangers]

YES WE DO! Hella Yeah!

[@nsawatchlistbait289]

@@FaramirsRangers hell yeah

[@getsomeboy321]

The UI looks really nice and the liberate feature seems helpful especially for making solid vassals/allies

[@FaramirsRangers]

The Liberate feature is great. I just used it and love the addition. Having lot of fun with this version.

[@landphil7436]

Really liking the look of the pros (the cons don't bother me too badly) - especially that research change making gentlemen feel more useful. Those fort changes that were mentioned are something that I am really interested to see. Those bloomin gates absolutely are the biggest pains in the ass with units getting stuck and making absolutely stupid pathfinding choices to enter/exit through. With the questions you mentioned (with pathfinding and ai) I wonder if they have made any sort of changes (or tweaks) with the combined animations and pathfindings in forts. Example I have, a few days I was defending a fort (against the orange horde) and I accidentally left a line inf by one of the doors. An enemy cav unit had tried getting through the gate (but pathfindings and ai ineptitude was blocking it) However, because the ai kept cycle charging every second the animations of individual units being charged (and dying to the 'hits') was obliterating the unit. When I noticed, I'd lost over half the unit and was watching the men being sucked into the closed door (the cav was basically stuck to the door and walls) then perishing - made me livid. I hate gates

[@FaramirsRangers]

Gates have been the worst I have tried running men out in column formation almost and nothing works. I always get rewarded with a unit that can't fire. I really hope they have made it easier for units to shoot off the wall like shogun 2. Would love for fort battles to be good but I think it needs to be broken down and rebuilt.

[@koam7180]

Thank you for covering this, it may be expensive at 19.99 but it’s the nostalgia and excitement of playing a game that when I was kid I only dreamed of. Im in my 20s now but when it came out I was watching it everyday on KZbin. Including napoleon total war. Can’t wait for the 21st😂

[@FaramirsRangers]

I am hyped to play it as well and experience the changes they have made.

[@mattfaulk8724]

I still play the American civil war mod to this day, still blows my mind the details put into it all those years ago

[@FaramirsRangers]

too bad we never got an american civil war total war

[@Alte.Kameraden]

Battle Controls are all that hold this game back really. Mostly positioning controls making it difficult to actually operate on the battlefield.

[@FaramirsRangers]

Micro is an issue in this for sure I feel so slow

[@Alte.Kameraden]

@@FaramirsRangers well it's the Two Finger Hold + Drag to form a regiment that makes it hard. If it was one finger it would be so much better. They have an alternative were you tap hold on top of a unit/s selected and it switches to a specific mode dedicated to it. It's VERY time consuming but provides more accuracy on unit placement.

[@FaramirsRangers]

@@Alte.Kameraden ok this helps a ton. I have been doing the tap and hold. I will try doing with two fingers that will make it lot easier I believe

[@Alte.Kameraden]

@@FaramirsRangers Tap/Hold = More accuracy but way slower. Two Finger Hold functions similar to the PC version of the simple Click Hold Drag. Honestly I wish they'd remove the two finger part, as single finger would be easier. The used the single finger tap/hold to draw/circle on the screen which is annoying, as it's not that important on Empire Total War. It may be useful on melee focused TW games, but positioning troops is 100x more important than drawing paths, and circling to highlight units. lol So if the Single Tap/Hold/Drag was used for formation/positioning it would have been nicer. But instead it's Two Finger Tap/Hold Drag which I find annoying. Basically when commanding larger formations I found the Two Finger option is better. But the Select Tap Unit Hold function is better for single units personally when positioning them correctly when compared to the rest of the troops in the line. ie if you need to make one or two of your flanking regiments swing in or out to defend against flanking or when flanking enemies. Overall it's all kind of tedious. Definitely on a phone with a small screen. Game almost needs control options in Options suitable for a stylist personally.

[@ThatTonnatoTenrec]

I feel like Research change makes it too much like a skill tree youd see in something like Far Cry. I liked that in Empire you could research multiple things at once [compared to something like Shogun 2 where its only 1 at a time] Autoreplenishment is also kinda meh, since i like that in Empire you can replenish anywhere as long you have the money [compared into Rome and Medieval where you needed specific buildings and so it can be kind of an issue], but you still had to pay for it unlike the later games where its just given.

[@FaramirsRangers]

I will upload some content tomorrow of exactly how it works. I have my assumptions but we are real close to launch :)

[@lars9925]

Good list. I personally appreciate the in-game graphics for the unit cards and support the decision to retain them. I really dislike the unit cards in other TWs that look nothing like the actual units or buildings.

[@FaramirsRangers]

I mean you do have a point it is easier to identify

[@red_devil17]

i hope napoleon will come to android too

[@nsawatchlistbait289]

Your video is what counts for me

[@FaramirsRangers]

Thank you

[@samuelhelderman]

Excite for this. Take my money. To be able to play on my iPhone when traveling is epic. If I can get another tablet even better. To be able to play an epic pc game on a mobile device is great. Think of all the poor around the world that cannot afford a pc let alone power one. Now they can access a game they couldn’t even play before.

[@FaramirsRangers]

@@samuelhelderman great point. It can really improve their player base.

[@Rubafix989]

Yeah but also what a missed opportunity. And playing a 2009 game doesn't need an expensive computer, however it takes a pretty expensive phone to run it most likely

[@FaramirsRangers]

That is a fact but I think most people can get a phone even an expensive one by going on a phone plan and making payments but PC's have gone nuclear on pricing.

[@arkos4366]

"no cut content" but it's already confirmed they have indeed added cut content they definitely wont port it to pc, the mobile game is already compatible with the iOS keyboard and trackpad

[@FaramirsRangers]

@@arkos4366 what cut content did they add? They have said none on their q and a.

[@arkos4366]

@@FaramirsRangers in the previews of the government tab you can see a family tree icon

[@FaramirsRangers]

Ok yes I remember seeing that too. Maybe I misunderstood them but I think in the Q and A they said they didn't do any additions to it nor anything with the HRE at 19:29 they talk about it in the video kzbin.info/www/bejne/iauye6SapKlgY6M

[@TomasPelanek]

How u mod a(ny) mobile game?

[@Optimus-Prime.]

I kinda hope there’s a simpler setting or like a setting to make it more like desk top.

[@FaramirsRangers]

@@Optimus-Prime. I know what you mean I’m not a big mobile game kinda guy so don’t know what to expect

[@Optimus-Prime.]

@ Yeah like, I’ve liked both rome and medevil 2 on mobile, but empire seems a bit Much, I’m still gonna buy it tho.

[@Cba409]

Are star fort siege battles with 40+ units actually playable?

[@FaramirsRangers]

even since the last update I have not experience the lag you get from breaking all the walls down or some of the other common things that cause the game to crawl. over 40 units tho it is rare to see.

[@enesbilge1646]

Can you repair fort or settlement walls after they are damaged?

[@FaramirsRangers]

For mobile version not sure yet I will let you know when I run into it

[@enesbilge1646]

@FaramirsRangers thanks bro

[@DJAM87]

Anyone know if this game will be playable offline ? Really just want it for long flights so I don’t have to take out the laptop ?

[@FaramirsRangers]

@@DJAM87 good question don’t think Ferel has said

[@Rubafix989]

I sure hope so since there's no online features

[@Jwatchdizzledrip3003]

Nov 19, 2024 To me personally, I have no problem with the base game of Empire Total War since many people worldwide feel Empire is the best TW CA has currently ever made in terms of map size and feature All other DLCs were added to the base games of Feral’s other TW ports so eventually next year, we’ll get Empires DLC At the end of the day, the pros outweigh the cons very nicely. Napoleon TW is the more polished version of Empire in a more focused environment so I think if you want more Empire or find anything you want to change to be more like the PC one then email them so they can incorporate those ideas In Napoleon…

[@FaramirsRangers]

It's not a requirement to like NTW tho right lol

[@spiffygonzales5160]

Napoleon is not a polished version of empire. It is a version of empire that chose to strip anything with issues rather than fix it

[@Jwatchdizzledrip3003]

@@FaramirsRangers Not to me..Go wild. Dude I just thought of something, CA should make a Star Wars TW or a wizards and witches type of magic TW similar to the magic in the Harry Potter world... that would be awesome to see in a TW structure

[@Jwatchdizzledrip3003]

⁠@@spiffygonzales5160 Oh really. Eh I never played any TWs before except on mobile so my only knowledge of it is what the KZbinr Andy Take said about the game. In any case, More Empire even in a stripped down version of its former glory can't be all bad since it's still Empire at its core without all the issues they stripped away

[@spiffygonzales5160]

​@@Jwatchdizzledrip3003 Andys take is one of the many shill youtubers who only recently got into total war during the Rome 2 era of it. They are gifted things like early access to help their youtube channel in exchange for being unpaid marketting and public relations. If you pay attention you'll notice how these guys NEVER say that something is just absolutely awful with the sole exception being shadows of change. Its either a positive, a neutral thats something akin to "im interested in this for the future" or downplaying a negative to make it seem like its not as bad as it is. Ive seen Andys take opinion of empire numerous times and its obvious he doesnt actually play the game. He is simply stating what the popular opinion of it is. as for empire, CA didnt strip the issues, they stripped the features associated with the issues. Firing types being the biggest example. You had 6 different ways your men could fire. However the clear best was fire by rank (though the occasional guy like me argues for platoon fire). The reason for this was because your units would not fire fast enough in platoon fire, and in all firing types them needing to reload or dress the lines would make the whole line wait before firing. The clear and obvious solution would be to make platoon fire be faster and make units able to fire without having to wait for the guy next to them. Instead the feature was totally stripped and now you have only 2 firing types in napoleon. Many people, myself included, belive that napoleon was meant to be nothing more than a DLC for empire originally, similar to the warpath campaign. there are older total war youtubers, guys who essentially made total war as famous as it is. The bigger names being pixalated appollo and prince of macedon. There's also volound who is an older total war player who has basically been blacklisted by the guys who get paid by CA. and legend of total war is another, he still plays and enjoys the new total wars but also seems to recognize that as games themselves they arent as good as the older ones. All the guys you see when you just type in "total war" in youtube, guys like loremaster of sotek, great book of grudges, andys take, etc (theres for real like 15 of them although only like 5 post regularly anymore). Those guys are given steam codes, early access, links for the game that give them money, they get taken to little ca get togethers, and other than recieving money directly theyre pretty much employees. Its just that if you use enough lawyer speak they technically arent. They all have mostly the same opinions and say mostly the same thing. They are meant to generate hype and get people to buy the game, and are most definately not honest reviewers. If you want to see what happens when you dislike the course of total war now where they cut content and resell it later as new, just look at volound.

[@nsawatchlistbait289]

Empire without modding is like potatoes. Just that. Not even salt

[@FaramirsRangers]

and no forks to eat with

[@spiffygonzales5160]

If you are a fan of the old school games, my advice to you is to GIVE UP on this greedy company that does not care about its fans. CA isnt just not wanting to make an old total war, they CAN'T make an old school total war. Find an indie game dev, pay them money, and let THEM eventually be the next total war

[@FaramirsRangers]

I agree with you in a lot of ways. I do think in this case this does help develop ETW into a better product then I will spend a little because of my love for this game. This is just my perspective. I however will not purchase a newer title unless it looks like they have listened (CA) to its customer base. Reality is they do not listen nor have they ever based on their actions. Again in this case this is the first time since they updated to definitive addition that in positive has come for this game. To be clear the definitive addition gave any player who purchased the game and did not have any dlc all the dlc for the game for free. That is it. The only change. I did have several friends who benefited from receiving dlc and that was nice but CA has done nothing else to shore up this game. I don't count the latest update as they only did that to strip the chat from the game and update it so it was playable on newer pcs. So I do agree with you in that I will not spend money on a newer title unless there is clear proof the game is worth it. Which I doubt.