Pros vs Ams: FIX Pulls and Be MORE Open At Impact 🏌️‍♂️

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

👉 GET THE FREE DRILLS JEFF USED TO BE MORE OPEN AND FIX HIS PULLS: pages.athleticmotiongolf.com/rotation-and-depth

[@djdibibar516]

So, the objective with the band around lower knee is to feel hand depth at or behind the knee? I’m not clear on it, thanks.

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

@@djdibibar516 correct. It’s for feel and a visual.

[@cubfan69kmz85]

Gentlemen, you again have demonstrated why you guys are the gold standard of golf instruction. I really do wish this kind of instruction was around when I first started playing the game. I am a big time offender of turning my pelvis too much in the backswing. I will definitely work on these drills. Btw, Mike, what is your secret? You look fantastic. Keep up the good work, gents!

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

@@cubfan69kmz85 you and me both. We were just born 20 yrs too early lol. Just trying to for one 😊

[@cubfan69kmz85]

@@AthleticMotionGolf stupid question, but on Amazon there are a hell of a lot of bands. Should the bands have a certain amount of resistance? Very light I am guessing.?

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

@@cubfan69kmz85 Yep, go light for this drill 👍

[@guygosling8779]

I’m sure you guys have heard this a thousand times but…after 40 years of lessons, trial and error, BS KZbin videos and sheer frustration, why hasn’t one GD so called professional instructor ever mentioned what you guys just showed the golf world in 17 minutes??? You guys should be dam proud of what you’ve achieved here….Thank You!!! I can now play golf at a level that is exhilarating. 🙌👊🙏

[@kristopherhorwath8756]

You guys are the best! Facts and data are undeniable, and you present them in a concise, unbiased way that makes learning easy, and brings enthusiasm to the practice range! Thanks for the great videos!

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

🙏thanks brother, we're glad they help!

[@robsaxepga]

So, in essence, drag loading but more defined. Lower the arms to retain the inertia so that the club head arc stays inside the hands until the release point where it begins to move out and the centrifugal reaction sets in. 10-19-C if I remember correctly. The rope handle. Love it. Great video as usual!

[@BeefyPreacher]

Key takeaways from watching AMG for five years: - LOWER YOUR ARMS under the shoulder plane! - if you can’t do this, stop trying to do other stuff until you can do it

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

Want a job? 👊😁 If that's missing, most of the other stuff just makes things worse.

[@BeefyPreacher]

And, rotation is the FINAL piece that’s poured onto a swing that already has good weight shift/arm lowering. Not rotating is usually saving a player rather than hurting them, it’s the brain doing whatever it can to stall the body to give your arms time to get back on plane.

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

@@BeefyPreacher Preach!

[@jessewatson8281]

Amen

[@tedfields9978]

Yep...Yep

[@dougnuttergolf]

Thank you Athletic Motion! This was a game changing video for me. Taken so many lessons and could not solve this problem. You guys explain it so clearly and easily.

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

Glad it helped 👊🙂

[@JimmyVespe]

Just a really good presentation, and you for sure helped this guy out in one hour. Hopefully he will come back to visit and continue his progression. Very insightful as always. One of the best channels on the internet for science / tour based kinematics research.

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

@@JimmyVespe a big thanks to Jeff for sharing his lesson 🙌

[@GMD64]

Meeting you guys and getting a swing analysis lesson is in my top 5 bucket list!

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

@@GMD64 come by and see us if you’re ever in central FL 👊 www.athleticmotiongolfclub.com

[@bobbyjay22]

amg you guys need to more videos exactly like these. Practical examples using live guests - It's incredibly helpful, thank you!

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

@@bobbyjay22 awesome to hear they’re helpful 👊🙂

[@MoAntphonyMo]

I literally have that leg straightening on the downswing and I could never find any video that explains that. And jeff proved it. Thanks for the help!

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

@@MoAntphonyMo 👊🤓

[@mjhansen6223]

Super excited for this....this is one of my main faults...HUGE PULLS with my irons that I can't quite figure out. Hoping this sheds some insight and possible fix!

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

@@mjhansen6223 we hope it’ll helps! We’ll be on live if you have any questions 👍

[@mrjlewis640]

Thank you so much for this wonderful information; no one has ever been able to explain exactly how a slice is created or avoided

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

@@mrjlewis640 thanks for the kind words !

[@MarkSmithhhh]

This is the video i needed

[@GeorgeValentine-x7b]

This video on pulling attracted me to you guys. Bending the trail knee will create that lightening up the heels? In turn I’m on my second “ chunk” to rebuilding my swing. First chunk was the rotation lesson with Jeff and the image of rolling rolling a fingerprint across the glass was an eye opener Second chunk is footwork. And the feeling of “ lightening“ in both heels during the swing was an unbelievable discovery.

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

@@GeorgeValentine-x7b yes to your question 👊🙂

[@angushood4438]

This is brilliant 🏌🏽‍♂️❤

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

@@angushood4438 🙏🏻👊

[@bkf22002]

This is such a great video. One of my favorites from you guys!

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

🙏👊

[@camsjams1]

Watched this, followed up with getting the drills and went to the range. I had one of the best range sessions of my life. Now for the real test on Saturday morning 😅

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

Let's Go! Just treat it like a range session 👊🙂

[@kishvaland1843]

Thank you guys, I will try this and hope it can improve my game.

[@16pennynails]

Always a fan of the magic move! Was just working on this yesterday, oddly enough for the hundredth time! I'm not one of "natural talent"when it comes to golf or the golf swing, lol!

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

@@16pennynails that’s the great thing about sport, hard-smart work can close the gap on talent! 👊🙂

[@golftrainingacademy]

amazing work guys, as always bringing light with great data!!

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

Thank you 🙏👊

[@sir_nicks_allot_8902]

The most light bulb moment in golf instruction I've ever had!! "The right knee....." ❤

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

@@sir_nicks_allot_8902 👊🙂

[@caseypearce9078]

🐐🐐 absolutely goated instruction. You guys are the best.

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

@@caseypearce9078 Ha thank you!!!

[@saucyjack77]

Great video! I always learn something from y'all.

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

@@saucyjack77 👊🤓

[@Raret000]

Love this video!! Can you do the next video about the flying elbow, keep shoulder in the socket, trail shoulder and arm too internally rotated to the top(like the elbow point up too much).

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

@@Raret000 check out our Pros vs Ams: Shallowing video. We go into detail about what the trail arm/shoulders does 🙂

[@petegalindez9961]

This is great stuff as always guys…I’m wondering where the camera is set up for this angle? Is it in line with the hands at address or with the toe line?

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

@@petegalindez9961 good question! The normal DTL setup - put the lens behind the hands at hand height👍

[@rubenmartinez8659]

Great video ,let's see some more live lessons, miss those

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

We post them every month in our Matrix online membership 😊

[@TomB-d8e]

Did Jeff have to feel that his right knee started bending before the backswing completed (when Shaun pushed it toward end of video)? Would be good to hear a bit more about this part.

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

Great question. 99/100 when we have to get in there to move something like this, it's to get it to move earlier. Jeff was associating when he saw the knee bend as the queue for starting the knee bend. He has to feel just how early that bend had to start.

[@Smeagol1904]

Not sure you answered his question.. so start knee bend as part of recentering /drift down hill?

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

@@Smeagol1904 yes

[@Smeagol1904]

@@AthleticMotionGolfgot it

[@steveperry1344]

i enjoyed and got a lot out of the video. so i have been working on my pivot and kinda let the arms go where they want in the backswing and it seems when they go the deepest and what feels behind my right shoulder is when i play my best even though it feels too deep and flat and i hit a lot of nice easy draws and less pulls. i don't know if it's proper and correct but the results are good. now i have to bottle it. i'd like to see my own swing on video sometime to see how good or bad it looks.

[@chrishnatyshynful]

I am new to your site but have followed it. Could you please share the drills you had Jeff do? Thanks.

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

Welcome to the channel👊 The link to the drills are in the first pinned comment 👍

[@BrandonBennett-c1b]

Best instruction in golf! I do have a question. Is there somewhere you can find the tour averages for each position, for instance hips at impact between 30-40 degrees open ;at top of swing left knee flex is between 40-45 degrees?

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

I don't think so, but your example numbers are pretty spot on 👊🙂

[@liamshearer183]

Awesome video as always. What is the direction of the early trail knee bend. Towards the trail toes or more towards the target?

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

@@liamshearer183 if you’re talking about when it starts, it won’t have much direction to it because it’s happening at the end of the backswing. As the DS progresses, it’ll be pulled in towards the target some by pelvis rotation.

[@maximilianoaparicio5642]

From the future… hope in 15 years can do a half of work like that (I’m a golf coach beginner now) thx for share this kine of thing and give us some to learn

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

@@maximilianoaparicio5642 👊🙂

[@kevinshoemaker5466]

Watched this over and over and compared to my swing (thx for how to shoot video tips). Love these swing cues. But I also feel if my lead foot is back 1/2 inch I tend to not pull down, the clubhead stays back and I can open my hips without early extending. I notice this is an Palmer - Travino thing. How do you guys feel about shoulders square to target but hips slightly open at address? I used to think it would make me hit across the ball, but hit it straight and my right arm feels like it unfolds in the right place🙄. Jeez, golf if a funny game!

[@pbateman62]

Absolutely world class. Would this pull also cause shanks? I seem to be pulling with similar things Jeff is doing and shanking them.

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

@@pbateman62 it sure would!

[@TJ-pf6sj]

Mike, did you also work on Jeff's posture? At address he seems to be too hunched over and has little bend in his knees. Thanks.

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

Yessir. Someone asked that a little bit ago. We added some knee bend so he could get his upper body up and not so hunched over. Good eye 👊

[@RonE-ks1ko6pc8]

Guys thank you, thank you, thank you, I was struggling yesterday trying to do this drill. Are you all watching me on my driving range hahaha.

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

@@RonE-ks1ko6pc8 those things that look like birds are actually swing drones 😂

[@RonE-ks1ko6pc8]

@@AthleticMotionGolf Thats funny...

[@tonymaher4624]

The dreaded pull or pull hook is also my miss. I put the two recommendations into my own swing and hit some pure shots. When i did pull it it was only 5 yards left not 30

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

@@tonymaher4624 let’s go!

[@Raret000]

What about hitting a push fade shot or push shot?

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

@@Raret000 what about it

[@Raret000]

@@AthleticMotionGolf how to fix push fade shot? (:

[@robkocerha4017]

Great video, another great way of explaining core fundamentals. Is the concept you’ve talked about of turning your shoulders more (and separately) than your chest critical to this top of the backswing hand depth?

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

@@robkocerha4017thanks brother! It’s always gonna be beneficial but I don’t think it’s critical for this.

[@Shad0wMonkey5]

My name Jeff

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

Are you our Jeff from the video (I don't know his YT handle)?

[@shanksgiving]

​@@AthleticMotionGolf It's a joke from a movie :)

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

@@shanksgiving bhahahaha

[@woodmo530]

You nailed me! 6.4" with a bad habit of pulls and pull hooks to the point that I don't want to play. Jeff's setup and problems look just like mine? Did you later work on changing his setup? Also, clicked on the drills link and it says something is wrong with the video. Great lesson!

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

We did. We added some more knee bend so he didn't have to be so bent over with his upper body. I just tried the link, it work straight away. Did you click on the green button below the video?

[@woodmo530]

@@AthleticMotionGolf Wasn't working in firefox but did in chrome. Do you have a good video on getting the setup correct? Thanks.

[@johnk.atchley5079]

Does the swing you show and teach here require the left or lead wrist to be bent in flexion (bowed) at the top of the backswing, or can the advice you are giving about lowering the right arm also work for someone with a backswing where the hands are high, the shaft is in a more vertical position and even a bit across the line at the top, thus with a bit more of a flying right elbow, and the left wrist appears to be somewhat cupped at the top, although it is not cupped but simply retains the natural slight extension flex that both wrists are in at address? Basically al la Taylor Pendrith. A video of his swing certainly seems to show that while his backswing begins with the club head quite far out and loops up to vertical and across the line at the top, with flying right elbow, he does bring his right elbow down sharply, with hands behind his right shoulder. He seems different than any of the pros whose avatars you show here. Could you place the lines you show over a video of his swing? Would be very interesting to know if they are the same as other pros despite the different looking moves.

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

@@johnk.atchley5079 sure, all of those elements can work here. We don’t teach a bowed wrist. Most players will have a small bit of cup.

[@Theshortskingking]

Quick question! I get that we need to lower our arms under the shoulder plane, but Is there any limit for how low your arm can lower? can it go too low early in the swing?

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

@@Theshortskingking lowering your arm in the backswing would be too early

[@systemoptimizer3542]

It seems regardless of how many videos you guys put out you still have students coming to you saying (incorrectly) they think that rotating more, and being more open at impact is their believed fix. If that's the fault of clueless other industry instructors giving them bad information, or their clueless playing partners (or range hackers) only they could tell you. Thanks for sharing another video dispelling the bad myths out there.

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

@@systemoptimizer3542 great post!

[@woodmo530]

Does fixing the pulls like you have shown improve the release as well? Long time pull hooker where I don't ever feel I can release the club properly. Looks a lot like Jeff's follow through in his original video. Hit balls today with the thought of lowering my arms as shown and not only did I hit it better, but I felt like I was releasing the club more properly instead of kind of holding on to it.

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

@@woodmo530 sure seems like it 🙂. If you’re prone to pulls, no way are you gonna release it.

[@derekmitchell6083]

This is what I need! Been working on it myself and just cannot get it 😞

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

Which part been giving you trouble?

[@derekmitchell6083]

@@AthleticMotionGolf Having my hips open at impact. I am mostly closed/early extending at impact leading to inconsistent strikes

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

@@derekmitchell6083 gotcha! Yeah make sure your club’s in a place where you would benefit from being more open, then work on the drills we gave Jeff to do at home👍

[@derekmitchell6083]

@@AthleticMotionGolfI clicked the link to take me to the website, but the video for the drills would not load😩

[@lukejackson1933]

Parker is the short game goat.

[@howardphillips8513]

I suppose early right knee bend would be facilitated by moving weight onto the left side earlier?

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

@@howardphillips8513 great question. It starts as re-centering is happening so weight is back to the middle. It will be left by lead-arm parallel in the DS.

[@renegade2853]

Am I correct in saying that in the main pro's open their hips less than am's in the backswing but have more chest turn? If so, would quieting down the leg action help consistency?

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

@@renegade2853 we got Jeff to tighten up his turn, not by having him turn less or quiet his Les, but by getting him to move his legs better 😉

[@lukejackson1933]

I'm confused. The 2 things you gave him related to the downswing. How did this get him into a better position at the top? Obviously I've missed something.

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

Getting his knee to bend earlier (at start of transition) gave him a better top. That's really all we did for his top in the lesson.

[@chrisdee7288]

It happened automatically. Having the feeling of getting the hands under your shoulder will make you bring them deeper at the top. If your hands are high and in front of your shoulder at the top, you can't get them underneath on the way down. This was how I interpreted it.

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

@@chrisdee7288 well said

[@chrisdee7288]

@@AthleticMotionGolf I was hoping this was correct, I plan to try this with my daughter (she's 13). Her coach tells me she needs her hands deeper and not so high at the top, we can't figure out how to get her there. Using the feeling of "skipping a rock" has helped get her hands down and around more but as I look at her videos, she is still over her shoulder. Hopefully this will be the key to getting her hands back a little more. I already watched the drills. Wish I could afford to get her to your studio near us, I think it would do wonders for her.

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

@@chrisdee7288 The two homework drills would be perfect for her 👊

[@Dwu0nbUrYky5yr4U5FA]

With the last swing, at the top of his backswing, I noticed his left shoulder seems a lot more under his chin. More similar to all the pro images. Before the swing changes, his left arm was pretty much covering his entire face, including his nose. That makes it a lot harder to keep the hands back at the turn.

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

@@Dwu0nbUrYky5yr4U5FA that has more to do with the graphics of the avatar itself. His left shoulder wasn’t covering his face in any of his swings. The GEARS avatar is the best, but it’s still an avatar 🤓

[@jts09]

Thanks so much for the video. I've worked on improving my position at the top and was struggling with consistency. I felt like I had to be "close", but I would hit pulls with swings that felt very good. I started working on keeping my hands "behind my right shoulder" and I became much more consistent.

[@jmag-kq9nl]

when i try to implement that movement of the trail knee, like when you pushed his knee forward at the top of his swing, it makes my hips spin out too quick and leaves no room for my arms, trying to work on lowering the arms properly while also adding trail knee flex, just curious if this is a common issue you see

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

@@jmag-kq9nl a couple thoughts for clarity 🙂… 1. No one can implement a new movement without first repping it to the point it happens. 2. 5-8 degrees of knee bend will not cause the hip to spin out. BUT trying to do/feel something new/different at full speed could. See point #1 😉 3. If the upper arm isn’t re-connecting/lowering, you’ll be penalized for moving the lower body better. That’s why we detailed the sequence of Jeff’s issues. 4. Yes, trying to add rotation to a swing with out-of-position arms/club is one of the most common issues we see.

[@jvitali60]

Great information but I didn’t see anything to click on for the drills??

[@hickorydragon8114]

Lotta numbers in that one.

[@calebkyle3292]

So this guy is exactly me but gets it around in 10 fewer strokes 😂 Question: was adding rotation specifically to help the pulls? Generally what are the benefits to more rotation, if it’s not always going to help one’s performance (based on other things going on in the swing)

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

Getting his hand to work under his shoulder, thereby keeping some depth deeper into his downswing stopped his pulls. That then allowed him to get more open which helps with consistency.

[@calebkyle3292]

Okay thanks. So getting more open at impact IS a good thing to work to add into your swing to aid with consistency, but have to arrange those other pieces to make sure you can get it?

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

@@calebkyle3292 Exactly 👍

[@jmag-kq9nl]

don’t pros also set up a bit more open with the hips and shoulders at address? is that something an am with issues like this ought to try as well?

[@jmag-kq9nl]

and what direction is that knee bend in the trail leg happening? similar to the lead leg it’s slightly inward, it seems like copying that on the trail side makes sense?

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

@@jmag-kq9nl most golfers (pros and ams) set up SLIGHTLY open. Use video to make sure you’re square looking and you’ll be fine. Yes, slightly inward with the knee👍

[@RosieSandwiches]

Pro 6 looks a little like Rory’s swing. I bet that guy is good.

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

He's not bad 😅

[@jwdiho]

ever think about collaborating with some youtube golfers? Jerome Rufin has had tons of pro level coaching and I think a few lessons with you guys would do more than a year of random lessons and a testimony to your method!

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

We love working with golfers who have the passion to improve. Sometimes the logistics don't work out, but we're open to helping anyone.

[@jwdiho]

@@AthleticMotionGolf I look at his swing and despite a year of lessons, he still struggles with something you guys could probably identify and point him in the right direction in 1 session. lol.

[@terryd89]

Good video! Only problem I have is, pushing the right knee out during the downswing seems to push my swing path, causing a heal shot. Anyone else expedience this...maybe I'm pushing my knee out too much!

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

@@terryd89 I think you nailed it. Anything (good or bad) in the swing can be over or under done.

[@terryd89]

@@AthleticMotionGolf thanks! For me, it's tough to understand the best way to get this done. By pulling the front hip open, thus the back leg/knee must react, or pushing from the back leg. Any suggestions?

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

@@terryd89 don’t push with the back leg 😉

[@-TroyStory-]

His trail knee straightens a lot on the back swing compared to the pros resulting in a much deeper right hip (51deg compared to ~30-35deg) turn and having to get rid of that much “slack” from the hips in .8 seconds just isn’t going to be possible. I get the flexing of the right knee on the down swing as one way to mitigate the issue but wouldn’t it be more efficient to just have him maintain some right knee bend in the back swing instead? Regardless, great stuff as usual Gents.

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

@@-TroyStory- we actually prefer maintaining knee flex on backswing or maybe losing just a few degrees. Thanks

[@seanskehan3930]

Knowing who these pros are, do you see correlation between the ones who have incredible thoracic extension and back injuries?

[@freddym6643]

Did you ask Jeff to try and keep his upper body more closed to the target as well while the arms lowered and the knees/hips started going?

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

We didn't need to. The goal of getting his arm to work under his shoulder accomplished that without it ever being brought up.

[@Toaster-v1z]

Bending the knee is like the "tour squat"?

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

@@Toaster-v1z what’s the tour squat?

[@RobFinneran]

Being more deep on backswing makes club looks laid off and flat. Is that an issue

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

@@RobFinneran good eye! We did a follow up after he’d had time to get used to these changes. The laid off was pretty much gone. We only had an hour with him, so we had to prioritize what we put on his plate. If we do our job well, other things like this should start to clean up. But to your point, sometimes we attack that head on, especially when there’s a concept causing it.

[@DavidKrumenacker]

So the club drops under the shoulder, but when does the club start to get out in front? Hands drop, but club is starting to square up? Too much down and you are way late in squaring the face.

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

@@DavidKrumenacker hand drops under shoulder, not the club 🙂

[@chachichochacorta8577]

Pros swing at 100mph and Senior pro at 83mph. Are they all swinging 7-irons?

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

yes, these were all 7 irons

[@chachichochacorta8577]

@@AthleticMotionGolf That is impressive! I can only manage 87 mph on my very best days. Thank you for this video and the free drills video.

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

@@chachichochacorta8577 right!? The speed the younger pros can produce, with little appearance of effort, is impressive. We're fortunate to have the tools we do to capture how they do it!

[@ToddSchultzNC]

It amazes me in all your pro v am vids how the amateurs are doing more work during the swing than the pros.

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

@@ToddSchultzNC often LOTS more work.

[@MattTobiaz]

Can anybody explain “get hands work under the shoulder plane?…does it basically mean try to get hands under the right shoulder at start of downswing?…dont want to misinterpret that concept like i tend to do when i want to introduce a new feel to my swing…😅….many thanks…

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

@@MattTobiaz that’s it , you got it 👊

[@Robin-Cj]

You say in the backswing that he WAS 50 degrees open and is now 30 something, because he bends his right knee earlier in downswing? Ypu probably forgot some details there, i get the knee bend in diwnswing will help him get open, but why were the hips 20 degrees more closed in the start than the lst swing at top of the baclswing??

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

He started at 51 deg closed at the top with 26 deg of stretch. At the end, he was 36 deg closed at the top with 38 deg of stretch. We never asked to rotated less, we asked him to start his knee bend earlier. Doing so gave him a dynamic transition which is what created the extra stretch and allowed him to generate more speed. Before, everything went back, then everything came down - very undynamic (if that's a word😊).

[@josephpolk6834]

There is no magic bullet! Once again this data shows that the top and bottom need to work correctly. Thanks guys!

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

thank you!!

[@gkLA33]

If only i can find an instructor who can teach this. Sheesh

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

@@gkLA33 we’re down in sunny FL if you ever want to come see us 🙂

[@Val-ov4px]

The menu analogy needed a warning.. lost a few drops of beer

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

🍺😁

[@dogsarefun2]

Hands over toes in setup, swing returning hands to start position...

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

@@dogsarefun2 That’s a pretty outdated idea, the hands do not return to where they started

[@dogsarefun2]

@@AthleticMotionGolf Thanks! see now, hands somewhere between toes and ball. Fighting pulls, will use your info to make corrections. I know soon as the left shoulder goes left, you got a pull every time unless clubface is really open.

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

@@dogsarefun2 you got it 👏

[@dogsarefun2]

subscribed and liked!!

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

@@dogsarefun2 🙏🏻👊

[@theresas2732]

Somebody call 911 because AMG is murdering the golf industry.

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

bahahaahah

[@brycegorman2383]

0:46 One thing I don't understand is how closed shoulders cause the ball to start on a pull. All other things being equal I would guess that closed shoulders would start the ball to the right (for a right handed player). God I need lessons

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

@@brycegorman2383 Even with closed shoulders the hand path plane can be left or even well left. What you’re saying should be how it works, but ams are quite to talented 😉

[@Jamieporthouse]

Ma names jeeeeeff

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

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[@Jamieporthouse]

@@AthleticMotionGolf hahaha love it 😂

[@SpinandThrowDiscGolf]

So, that pro gave this guy a lesson in coming over the top. I'd get a refund.

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

Lots of people out there teaching that "out and over the shoulder" hand path right now, unfortunately. I saw a video early this week advising the same thing.

[@SpinandThrowDiscGolf]

@@AthleticMotionGolf the Litzke loop haha

[@Cats3141]

Perhaps it is just me, but this is not helpful for me