[Prototype] Critique | Lost But Not Forgotten

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@saltyshrimppasta
@saltyshrimppasta 3 ай бұрын
I think we’re past due for a pinned comment addressing some of the more common criticisms for this video: - First and foremost, I had less than 300 subscribers when this video was made. It’s also worth mentioning that this is one of my least favorite videos on my channel, which is why it’s unfortunate that it’s also my most popular. - The “jokes” in this video are genuinely awful. They are at best unfunny and at worst downright misogynistic, which is unfortunately just the kind of immature person that I was back then. Three years is a long time, especially when you’re in your early 20’s and still maturing like I was when I made it. I think this is something that is handled much better in my future videos, but this one was just…bad. - I’ve received multiple comments from people saying that my criticism of the first game was unfair because I was playing the game wrong, and I agree. One of the lessons I’ve learned from later projects is that I cannot fairly judge a game based on a single playthrough, and I now have a rule where I will play every game I cover at least twice, but often more. Much of this criticism is literally just a skill issue. So you’re probably wondering why I haven’t deleted the video if I don’t like it, and the answer is a bit complicated. For one, there are plenty of people who seem to genuinely enjoy it, and I want it to remain available for those people. I was inexperienced and very immature when I made it, but I don’t feel comfortable getting rid of it entirely either. This comment is just a bandaid that hopefully provides some context to newcomers that it is, in my opinion, some of my worst work to date.
@akrem97salmi
@akrem97salmi 3 ай бұрын
I watched this 3 times and for real I enjoyed it ty for making it and appreciate the work
@akrem97salmi
@akrem97salmi 3 ай бұрын
I love games lore and watch the narration this one is one of the best it's like movie experience for me
@rancidavocado2166
@rancidavocado2166 3 ай бұрын
I know you're too busy to ever do it but a remaster would go hard.
@hansiesilver2991
@hansiesilver2991 2 ай бұрын
actually my question would be, are you gona make another one?
@saltyshrimppasta
@saltyshrimppasta 2 ай бұрын
@@hansiesilver2991 Probably not. I have my issues with it but enough people have told me that they enjoy it for me to feel comfortable leaving it as-is. If the video was less popular and not as many people would miss it, then I’d just remove it and be done with the topic entirely.
@G-741-S
@G-741-S 2 жыл бұрын
I just noticed that Mercer's sword arm are shaped as scalpel while Heller's are shaped as a combat knife this is brilliant
@5hyper7form94
@5hyper7form94 2 жыл бұрын
Never noticed that.. I hope that's intentional, because the implications are awesome
@ThatGenericPyro
@ThatGenericPyro 2 жыл бұрын
The scientist and the soldier
@michaelbecket4901
@michaelbecket4901 Жыл бұрын
That was TOTALLY intentional and the thought of a nerd getting bullied by a military man brings a smile to my face lol
@michaeljason2593
@michaeljason2593 Жыл бұрын
@@michaelbecket4901well then. I guess the military bastard getting gutted by an infected civilian will be way better, for me at least. Or being pounded into past by Supreme Hunter with a new form.
@michaelbecket4901
@michaelbecket4901 Жыл бұрын
@@michaeljason2593 sure but it depends on if the military asshole has powers as well since we’ve seen soldiers infected with whithlight become evolved instantly before
@DishonoredSkull
@DishonoredSkull 3 жыл бұрын
Disagree on the movement being the same in 2. You can't hold the jump button to perform super jumps. Adding a timing element to the traversal to gain the maximum height, distance and momentum. You're not able to slide down buildings and perform back jumps, the backflip is removed, James has less "flashly" animations compared to Alex. You can't cancel your climbing or dropping when on a building. Lastly, the air dash forces you into a glide, this makes it harder to land and move accurately in the air, and doesn't allow the player to use dashes to gain vertical height as well as the first game.
@thekietnguyen2673
@thekietnguyen2673 2 жыл бұрын
I completely agree with you
@NJX247
@NJX247 2 жыл бұрын
The first game definitely was better in my opinion
@wellwoven2457
@wellwoven2457 2 жыл бұрын
James focuses moreso on efficiency and destruction rather than agility and single-target damage like with Alex. I can certainly appreciate how they both feel different.
@BenDovahkin
@BenDovahkin 2 жыл бұрын
Wait, so you're saying the movement is more restrictive in the second game than in the first ? I just played the first one and if the second one is anything like the first one (or worse...) I'm not even going to bother.
@saltyshrimppasta
@saltyshrimppasta 2 жыл бұрын
The moveset in Prototype 2 is slower paced, which I found easier to control. Jumps are a little shorter and the running speed doesn’t reach as high speeds. Also, holding the “free-run” button does cause you to automatically start gliding, which takes some getting used to.
@vividdaydream1516
@vividdaydream1516 2 жыл бұрын
I get the vibe that Prototype 1 was originally planned to include a _lot_ more dialogue & animated cutscenes (especially for the Web of Intrigue nodes), but the devs ended up having to scrap or condense most of them due to time/budget constraints.
@twilightsparkle75
@twilightsparkle75 7 ай бұрын
200 web of intrigue points. Definitely had huge ambitions
@thegreatandpowerfultwily394
@thegreatandpowerfultwily394 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, concerning Prototype 2's characterization of Mercer, I've always felt that he was conflicted with his entire plan. Towards the end of the first game he knows that he was never human to begin with, only a weapon who grew a consciousness; so I think he feels the need to "prove" his own agency by shaping the world in his own image. He knows he has the power to eradicate humanity, yet he almost wants to be stopped given the extreme lack of effort on his part. He even release the virus in exact same location that the first outbreak appeared. Why else wouldn't he just leave the city and start another outbreak elsewhere? A sense of nostalgia? Pettiness? I feel like he never really had any intention to destroy humanity. He didn't even have the stomach to kill Dana, when he knew she was never his sister. Mercer seems to me like he doesn't know what he wants, only that he has to do _something,_ and he's too prideful to admit that. His final line even came off as if he never cared whether he won or lost. It's more likely that the writers didn't fully think through his character, but as a fan of the series, and of Mercer, I do love trying to justify his personality change.
@aldiascholarofthefirstsin1051
@aldiascholarofthefirstsin1051 Жыл бұрын
Please don't try to defend the garbage plot of the second game.
@alastor718
@alastor718 Жыл бұрын
Agreed his persnality changed made no damm sense in the 2nd game and please dont mention the comics that was garbage . The 2nd should of been about him trying to find Phariah its been hinted at DOZENS of times in the web of imtregues about elezibeth greens son its like they forgot about him
@KnightspaceORG
@KnightspaceORG Жыл бұрын
I mean, comics tried to expand his motivations, but even with this extended lore, Alex's actions make no sense
@alastor718
@alastor718 Жыл бұрын
@Daniel Casey nah not to me IMO the best sense that could make is that's not alex mercer in P2 i think it should just ether get a reboot or a proper remake
@aldiascholarofthefirstsin1051
@aldiascholarofthefirstsin1051 Жыл бұрын
@danielcasey6803 And his change makes no fuckin' sense and is objetivelly badly written. This franchise needs a reboot because they destroyed all potential sequel plots from the first game with the second.
@DishonoredSkull
@DishonoredSkull 3 жыл бұрын
For the Elizabeth Greene Boss I Prototype 1, if you or anyone else plays again. Use the shield and not the armour, use muscle mass with max throw and grab cars and make sure you're locked onto the weakspots. You can use the whip fist charge attack to do long range attacks. Make sure you're high up to let gravity pull you down during the attacks to dodge her attacks passively. In the 2nd and 3rd phase of the Boss just use the tanks, they are absolutely broken on the Boss and took only 10 minutes to beat when I played it recently, compared to an hour when I last played in 2018. Hope this help anyone
@carlJohnson-fj3py
@carlJohnson-fj3py 2 жыл бұрын
I just went to a back alley, got to critical mass and went to her and did 3 devastator attacks over and over again
@swahini
@swahini 2 жыл бұрын
i kept using the tendril explosion
@carlJohnson-fj3py
@carlJohnson-fj3py 2 жыл бұрын
@@swahini i used the ground spike thingy mostly
@randomfactsthatdontmatter3466
@randomfactsthatdontmatter3466 Жыл бұрын
@@carlJohnson-fj3py pretty sure the critical pain devastator (I think that's what it's called) is the most effective on single targets.
@modageddon2742
@modageddon2742 Жыл бұрын
@@randomfactsthatdontmatter3466 it is but due to how groundspike works it just does an insane amount of damage on elizabeth greene only being comparable to the air stomp try it you won't be disappointed and it might not work sometimes its weird that way
@saisameer8771
@saisameer8771 2 жыл бұрын
Prototype is one of those games that screams "Made in a short deadline" to me. The game has a lot of cool stuff like great animations and sounds that make you feel absolutely powerful, individually interesting and fun powers and moves that all feel great on their own, shoved into the game with almost no thought into how this would work with the larger game. Like the devs were short on time so they decided to cram as much cool sh1t they could into the game and threw a very basic open world around it. This d explains the rather boring mission structure and a general lack of stuff to do in the open world.
@godzillazfriction
@godzillazfriction 2 жыл бұрын
na mission structure wasnt boring
@godzillazfriction
@godzillazfriction 2 жыл бұрын
plus you're wrong
@sebastiankrueger6209
@sebastiankrueger6209 2 жыл бұрын
Mercenaries 2 was the same way. Besides blowing stuff up, the side quests like blowing up billboards was pretty boring.
@88Factor
@88Factor Жыл бұрын
This would explain some of the latter terrible mission structure, and also why powers like Claws got rendered irrelevant so quickly.
@frenchfriedbagel7035
@frenchfriedbagel7035 11 ай бұрын
It def felt like the combat mechanics were at odds with the actual scope of combat. 2 remedied that at the cost of removing way too much.
@odetomedusa7019
@odetomedusa7019 2 жыл бұрын
I for one hate that the lore for Alex's turn isnt actually mentioned with in the second game, but in the comic for the second game. How he set out and traveled but only found corruption, (I mean he did go to probably the worst places, like he was looking for it "ehem") before finding an old man and his daughter he felt he fit with. He even discribes that he felt like he loved the daughter, feeling like she loved him back, but ofcorse with Alexs luck the old man was apart of some kinda mafia. He trys to take the daughter away but the daughter shoots him after finding his money, that back fires and Alex turns bad boy outta spite really. But honestly much prefer your idea for how prototype 2 should have gone. It feels more in charicter and actually thought out. One thing from the first game (that i hate was trapped in the web) was human mercer actually liked making the virus more deadly, and bragged about how he made it like 10x so. It was only when he heard about green he decided the virus was bad. It made a really cool twist that the virus openly hated human Alex, that the virus seemed to have a better moral compass then his human counterparts. Sorry I've recently returned to the prototype hyperfixation and just needed to put my 2 cents in 😂 Loved the video!
@saltyshrimppasta
@saltyshrimppasta 2 жыл бұрын
I’m glad you enjoyed it! I don’t remember if I brought up how the Web kind of sucks because you can’t actively seek out nodes, and how you basically have to just run around the entire map and hope the poor bastard doesn’t die (usually by you accidentally throwing him instead of consuming him). I wish there were some ways to unlock chunks of nodes by doing challenges or something, which can be ignored if you find the people to consume while exploring.
@odetomedusa7019
@odetomedusa7019 2 жыл бұрын
@@saltyshrimppasta oh you did bring up the web being hard to use/want to persue and I 100% agreed as much as i wanted to know every little detail its just too hard. Especially trying to find the like last 20, when zombies kill them in your face or as you say, throwing them, or acidently throwing the things you picked up instead if them at them. Thats real pain.
@saltyshrimppasta
@saltyshrimppasta 2 жыл бұрын
It’s basically just Alex accidentally stepping on his sandwich
@aldiascholarofthefirstsin1051
@aldiascholarofthefirstsin1051 Жыл бұрын
That comic story is just as garbage as the second game's story, it doesn't make it better in any way and I hate when people try to bring it up as if it changes the fact that the story of the second game is trash.
@aldiascholarofthefirstsin1051
@aldiascholarofthefirstsin1051 4 ай бұрын
The comics are trash and you either haven't read them or your perception of storytelling is garbage, the idea in them doesn't make sense and it doesn't justify anything.
@Forestxavier20
@Forestxavier20 2 жыл бұрын
I think the best way to handle Alex's behavior in Prototype 2 is to completely make him unaware of his actions originally. If you make Alex not realize that he's been leaving behind virus contaminations of every place he has been, only for him to realize what happened after the second outbreak occurs and him just doing what anyone would rightfully do in that situation and panic? You could have this brilliant scene of him playing up how in control he is only for at the end of the game. "You want to hear the funny thing about all of this? It was all an accident. It was only when I became the Host of a Hive-Mind that I realized what had occurred. It's truly a bitch, you go to sleep and the next day, you hear millions of voices screaming at you for what you did to them. Hundreds of thousands crying out for help, but you realize you are just what the government thought you were. A monster, something out of control that harms and kills innocent people. By the time I realize what happened, I had no idea what happened, I just started doing whatever made sense. It's not like I could say "I'm sorry I turned an entire island into a den of mutated people and accidentally evolved others into being like me" without being hit with a nuke anyways. So I just did what anyone would do in my situation and just made it up to make it look like I started with a plan. James, if you look at me, do you see the face of this egomaniacal maniac who planned on infecting the world from the start, or do you see the face of someone who was given the worst case scenario and realized that even with their best excuse, they were going to be the villain, so I played into it. Give the people someone to hate, even after I saved the city originally. I'm sorry Heller, but it can't be fixed." Making him not realize he has contaminated the entire city and going off the deep end because he's too deep into it now, he might as well go full villain? It sounds like something that a scared, confused, and guilty person would do. Him turning into a villain would be him hearing the hivemind he accidentally created and feeling both the guilt and regret of accidentally starting a new plague whilst also being plausible that he'd hear all these voices and start trying to figure out what to do and in a moment of sheer desperation and panic, he just goes "I can't fix this, I need a plan, I need to do something" before realizing he was connected to a hivemind and without him issuing orders, they'd be feral. So he starts off trying to fix it, recruiting Evolved to help him out, but each person is corrupted by the concept of the Blacklight Virus having Evolved them, each telling Mercer a different tale to get him to slowly become a sociopath who wants to take over the world from an outside perspective. Cliche, I know, but looking back at the game, wouldn't it be a massive shock that Alex Mercer wasn't actually trying to be an evil asshole but instead was just really scared by his own powers and what he accidentally became?
@scotcheggable
@scotcheggable Жыл бұрын
If they make a 3 then the Alex in 2 should be a decoy made by Alex prime who was created essentially to be killed so that people stop looking for Alex while he enacts some global plot in the background. Have Heller or even another character to continue the trend find out slowly but unravelling a terrorist style organisation with cell groups that prevents immediately jumping to the top, and by the end have a choice where you can try to stop Alex or join him. Have some choices through the game where you can side with a military force that's exterminating anyone in a quarantine zone or a mildly infected populace who are slowly changing into something new, maybe with a small number becoming basically lesser superhumans. Could be good.
@frenchfriedbagel7035
@frenchfriedbagel7035 11 ай бұрын
That gives real “end of Sword Art Online S1” vibes. You don’t want to undermine a characters motivations by being like “it was one big oopies poopies”.
@MatthewJBarnetteOO7
@MatthewJBarnetteOO7 2 жыл бұрын
I find it ironic in retrospect that - for all the folks who call Prototype an RE knockoff - RE Village recently did essentially the same thing as Prototype with the character of Ethan Winters and the Mold. If you’ve played that game to the end, you’ll know what I’m talking about. Funny how things work out sometimes.
@saltyshrimppasta
@saltyshrimppasta 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe now that Microsoft gave ActiBlizz the Old Yeller treatment we might actually get a Prototype 3
@MatthewJBarnetteOO7
@MatthewJBarnetteOO7 2 жыл бұрын
@@saltyshrimppasta We can only hope. There’s also Radical’s involvement in the project; hopefully Microsoft will give them room to come back. They haven’t done anything since 2014’s Destiny.
@FMK03
@FMK03 2 жыл бұрын
@@MatthewJBarnetteOO7 I heard they got axed.
@aldiascholarofthefirstsin1051
@aldiascholarofthefirstsin1051 4 ай бұрын
@@saltyshrimppasta I would prefer a remake.
@NCore_._
@NCore_._ 2 жыл бұрын
There can be a lore justification to the fact that Heller is more of a bulky kinda guy, like a Heavyweight fighter while Alex is like a Featherweight fighter... That's why Alex is much more agile and has more fluid movement than Heller. Even the Armoured Heller skin in Prototype 2 is bulkier than Armoured Alex skin...
@MILDMONSTER1234
@MILDMONSTER1234 Жыл бұрын
Ones a soldier after all
@michaelbecket4901
@michaelbecket4901 Жыл бұрын
Wasn’t heller actually faster when u upgrade his max speed?
@TheSwordN7
@TheSwordN7 Жыл бұрын
Heller gets faster the longer he runs, meanwhile alex runs at a set speed as soon as he runs around.
@frenchfriedbagel7035
@frenchfriedbagel7035 11 ай бұрын
Both of them are comprised of hundreds of pounds of biomass.
@twilightsparkle75
@twilightsparkle75 7 ай бұрын
There is lore justification, the virus uses the hosts original brain and sentience for a baseline on how it acts, from how it looks to how its forms look to how its powers work and everything. So it kinda works on spawn cape rules "it decides what looks.most badass and chooses that" lol
@hurrakka_kun
@hurrakka_kun Жыл бұрын
I recall Prototype had its own equivalent of the 'bio-bomb' called the 'patsy' (its a skill that you have to buy so I don't blame you for not mentioning it) Basically you point fingers at a soldier and everyone sets their focus on that soldier until they open fire. It makes a pretty good opening for stealth consuming. Though I do find it funny that you can use this ability repeatedly and no one ever suspects you for false accusations. Still prefer bio-bomb any day
@Sush-jt8gm
@Sush-jt8gm 9 ай бұрын
Patsy/air strike cannot be used on super soldier
@sadle1331
@sadle1331 6 ай бұрын
Both is good, both would be nice in Game
@wellwoven2457
@wellwoven2457 2 жыл бұрын
My hypothesis is that Prototype 2 did a great job at being a balanced game, because it tried to make everything from the 1st game more concise through it's refinement. as a result (at least for me) while it did have less options than the 1st game, it ultimately made me feel far more empowered as a godlike killing machine because by learning it's mechanics, I became unstoppable. Rather than in prototype 1, I didn't ever truly feel like I was the center of attention because of things like high damage explosions, enemies everywhere, and the requirement of having to keep track of every mechanic while dealing with somewhat clunky controls. I still love prototype 1, though, and I do understand the multitude of things it does better than 2, but I never want to forget what 2 does better than 1.
@godzillazfriction
@godzillazfriction 2 жыл бұрын
ye nah prototype 2 is easier but it doesn't make you feel like a godlike being like in prototype 1.
@sebastiankrueger6209
@sebastiankrueger6209 2 жыл бұрын
Well there is the fact that there is an upgrade to become completely bullet proof, so there is that, alongside all backwatch and marine explosive weapons having a timer till they fire their guns, which gives you a 3 second window to block. Also the grenade launcher has a timer after it fires. Also there is the cool mechanic that you can literally rip tanks turrets off, making them next to useless when facing you. So did the game make you feel more god like? Or did they nerf everything else into the ground for you?
@godzillazfriction
@godzillazfriction 2 жыл бұрын
@@sebastiankrueger6209 cmon they nerfed everything from the 1st game which captured the godlike feeling in which whitelight says the same thing unlike in the 2nd game plus P2 does even allow you to pick up heavy vehicles like a army truck, tanks and helicopters and more which makes throwing useless unlike in the 1st game throwing was useful as well as feeling the power from mercers throw if you upgraded his throwing range and power
@zzodysseuszz
@zzodysseuszz Жыл бұрын
@@godzillazfrictiondude you’re wrong. Prototype 1 does not make you feel godlike. Objectively speaking. You get stun locked constantly, your most damaging attacks are impossible to pull off bc enemies are always stunning you out of it. Your best weapons is the blade arm and it’s pretty much just a single target moveset. Most enemies are damage sponges and you’re constantly forced to fight annoying enemies in large groups. It’s not godlike, it doesn’t make you feel godlike and instead it’s extremely unbalanced and janky. Just bc you liked it when you were 8 doesn’t mean it’s actually good now.
@zzodysseuszz
@zzodysseuszz Жыл бұрын
@@godzillazfrictionshut the fuck up with that godlike bullshit. Prototype doesn’t feel godlike. You feel like you’re made of papermache getting nearly one shot by fucking everything and doing very little damage against everything. I have nearly all upgrades in the game and still can’t one shit a tank unless I do an elbow attack
@goofygoober779
@goofygoober779 Жыл бұрын
I wish they would make another game like this. They were just fun. Sure it was edgy and it was a total teenage boys power fantasy but it also was just excellent gameplay and endless fun with the mobility the characters (Heller/Mercer) had.
@denimjacket6810
@denimjacket6810 3 жыл бұрын
11:22 okay guys? This is officially the best variation of this meme
@funnyperson7656
@funnyperson7656 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, this video is so in depth. Probably gonna come to this channel when im looking for an analysis vid, you've earned a sub.
@saltyshrimppasta
@saltyshrimppasta 3 жыл бұрын
I’m glad you enjoyed it!
@hyperventalated
@hyperventalated Жыл бұрын
it's always interesting seeing reviews of the first game and seeing what powers people consider useful vs useless, because it's almost always different. I say almost because the one constant is the blade arm being really good.
@gogitoDBZ963
@gogitoDBZ963 2 жыл бұрын
Alex’s plans for what he wanted to do was actually explained somewhat in the comics. (I’m sure you knew that) Although, as much as I love the Prototype franchise, even I have to admit that the “Taking over the world and making a new race” was kinda falling in line with a cliche. Nonetheless, I love Alex Mercer. These are the kind of games you should play at least once in your lifetime. I also didn’t understand the hate on the second game, I actually thought it was amazing. Story could have been better than a typical revenge plot, but it worked, given how the characters are. It has that certain charm to it, since it’s from the early 2010’s.
@aldiascholarofthefirstsin1051
@aldiascholarofthefirstsin1051 Жыл бұрын
How the hell you 'not understand the hate' when this video explains perfectly 'why'?!
@davidwhidden9337
@davidwhidden9337 Жыл бұрын
The hate for the second game is real simple. The marketing for this game was outstanding. It painted a picture of revenge. "Murder your maker". Oooooh, some very good intrigue. Then you play the game. A new character is put into the game in order to undo the legacy character. The legacy character's motivations, actions and practically everything about them, is changed for no in-game reason. The comics do not count, the game does not offer them to the player unlike Darksiders did. You go from Mercer who is smart pre-infection, to Heller, who just an muscle brained "Evolved" because for some reason the virus thought, we know, we''ll just keep this thing alive that is a threat to us for reasons! We love reasons! Mercer has the Evolved. Why does it need Heller? Why not just make everyone evolved instead of just......removing them from this realm? Why wouldn't the military just have Heller fight the infected to clean up the city? The last time they tried to fight against Mercer, the military LOST. Here you have a guy who has retained his sanity and knows to follow orders, and you just get mad at him. No wait sorry. The evolved make the military do this because Heller has resistant DNA and Mercer for whatever reason cannot take him over or remove his life? Military had sensors that would notify them of infected people/areas. In this game, they can't detect Evolved or the detectors just don't exist? The combat is worse. Yes, it's worse. Have a free dodge button. Use tendrils on hunters then cut off their arms and do major damage. The blade power is worthless. Whoa, you can spin around now? Amazing! You have the whip, tendrils, the tendril blockhole ability, bio bombs. The whip is just a grabby thing to units you can outright ignore. Or just time your shield button and.....bounce the missile back. You have little to no air combat abilities in game 2. The mutations on paper sound good, but most of them make the military obsolete. See that tank? Just use a finisher. See that copter? Jump on and rip apart it's cannons. There's no cost to do these things. You can just do them at will. If these were a limited resource, it would work better. Devastators! Mercer has tons. Heller has 2. Summon Hunters and Tendrils. Mercer uses his HP. Heller gets a unique bar (which is great!). However, in the final fight, Heller just gets to use ONE devastator for free, BUT only to respond to a bird attack. Mercer uses what, 1 Devastator attack in the final fight, and even then it's not the same version. Prototype 1 is flawed in gameplay and story. Prototype 2 is also flawed in this same areas, but the cracks in 1 are less noticeable than the cracks in 2.
@michaelbecket4901
@michaelbecket4901 Жыл бұрын
Wtf are u saying? Prototype is ALL cliché superhero stuff
@michaelbecket4901
@michaelbecket4901 Жыл бұрын
@@davidwhidden9337I disagree
@davidwhidden9337
@davidwhidden9337 Жыл бұрын
@@michaelbecket4901 uh huh.
@jonasjojofalco9896
@jonasjojofalco9896 3 жыл бұрын
I would accept the armor taking away your dodge if it made you safe from getting staggered but the fact that it doesn’t is really dumb
@MILDMONSTER1234
@MILDMONSTER1234 Жыл бұрын
I booted up prototype again after years assuming that armor gave you stun protection but it didn’t
@frenchfriedbagel7035
@frenchfriedbagel7035 11 ай бұрын
Reduced mobility, stun and knockdown immunity, bullet proof. Would be the perfect armor.
@Jxnjgjpjxj
@Jxnjgjpjxj 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, it’s my first vid from you and it was great. This is literally like top tier games’ analysis. I’m so surprised you don’t have more subscribers. Great work keep it up!
@saltyshrimppasta
@saltyshrimppasta 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks dude, I’m glad you enjoyed it!
@Farmos484
@Farmos484 2 жыл бұрын
Wow this was very enjoyable
@DawnApon
@DawnApon 2 жыл бұрын
I actually am pretty fond of the way Heller is intro'd. It's such a digestible set of circumstances that I become interested in it.
@tommygun6866
@tommygun6866 2 жыл бұрын
The way Mercer pronounced Koenig is how a german would pronounce it (König).
@jbzleon1057
@jbzleon1057 2 жыл бұрын
I really like the black and white cutscene it fits so well i feel like I'm watching a movie
@JUS4TLIFE
@JUS4TLIFE 2 жыл бұрын
Those cutscenes gave me Sin City vibes.
@kaxcommentssomethingREAL
@kaxcommentssomethingREAL Жыл бұрын
IKR?!?! the art direction in [PT] 2 was incredible i thought
@SimplyMavAgain
@SimplyMavAgain 3 жыл бұрын
already told you how much I appreciate the production quality in this video but I still feel compelled to drop a comment for that extra engagement
@morrisonscott1139
@morrisonscott1139 Жыл бұрын
I've always pictured Alex Mercer and James Heller swapping roles. Alex is the playable protagonist once again while James is the main antagonist. Prototype 2 is less of a revenge story and more of a redemption one, although it has a few revenge elements in it because Alex once thought Dana was dead because of Heller's new blacklight outbreak. As Mercer consumes Heller, it's revealed that Heller is Pariah's second in command. For Prototype 3, I imagine a mechanic where there is the choice between consuming a lifeform or just replicating a lifeform's shape, size, skills, powers, memories, and everything else without consuming the lifeform. Alex can develop healing powers, health manipulation, and powers based on curing diseases. It should also allow the option to consume or replicate the forms/abilities of plants and animals, land-based, sky-based, and aquatic-based. Pariah is the final boss of prototype 3 and after Alex consumes Pariah, his powers are perfectly combined with Mercer's.
@Trankser
@Trankser 10 ай бұрын
As someone who enjoyed Prototype during the early 2010's as a child, I loved this game for the powers and they looked so cool and amazing I wanted to do it myself too. Now I kinda realize how much of a pain it could be to a normal individual since you're literally shifting your body part and Alex appears in pain. I loved the game as it was for the cool and sick powers and design, and now it's for that and the story and potential it has. Prototype had a decent story and alot a bunch of things it could explore but unfortunately it didn't in some areas. Also yeah the combat mechanic is very clunky for this time and age and I won't lie it sucks sometimes. The Claw power you get is the weakest, even with Groundspike upgraded it's not worth using Claw. Just get the Claw events done to Platinum rank and call it a day with it. Hammerfist may seem important for tanks/armor but it's not. It's useless and doesn't exactly one shot them unlike the Blade even on Easy. Anything that isn't Blade, Whipclaw or Musclemass kinda sucks and don't bother using armor unless you're in shooting events. The trade off for better EHP but little mobility is kinda stupid like removing Glide makes sense but diveroll? Nah, just get the Shield Power to temporarily avoid death and just move around more. Mobility is your greatest friend. Oh and sensory powers are redundant since lock-on exists so there's little point to them unless you're trying to destroy those infested water towers for a trophy. Oh and dear god if you Gold all events be prepared for Platinum and hope some of them are already qualified for it because Platinum in movement sucks but becomes easier the more you understand which are faster routes and how to glide properly. Glide sucks too because you need to be in some of the events at or below 0.50m to qualify and Alex has little control while falling in the air. War events are alright but the Raid event sucks even more and it's just better to go on Easy(+) and do it that way since Hunters will be easier to kill and they won't one shot the tanks. The Kill events can be tedious depending on what you do and the upgrades you have but if it's Infected just go for the fodder since they count. Ignore the hunters and move around to avoid them. If you're in Military and they got tanks, target the tanks. They net more points than killing the fodder units and should be priority, and some of them aren't in the Whipclaw events so just spawn Y/Triangle while lock-on switching to slow the timer for a bit. In a short conclusion, Prototype is an old game and it shows. As the combat looks great until you realize it's very reliant on cerain powers and some are just useless in certain situations but the amount of potential it has is so great and amazing I do believe a remaster/remake should or could happen. Its concept and presence is just amazing and still is a good game despite some of it's flaws, however, being straightforward it's a 7/10 game. Average at gameplay with below average boss fights but with a good in the story it has, it's an alright game without counting the tedious events that may or may not consume you. And if a remake happens with the combat and movement being improved it would possibly make it a 8/10 or 9/10 for me. However unlikely with Activision but hell if they could remove the tedious parts of the game, improve the Greene and Supreme Hunter boss at the end and make each approach with each power and situation viable, it would for sure make a great game. Also changes to Alex as a character would be good if done right but as of now he's alright as a character in the first game. Just don't change his outfit because he's dripped out as hell and all the enemies you fight are just jealous of it lol.
@krowodom5719
@krowodom5719 Жыл бұрын
The devastates were great during boss fights, the single target one is awesome for he tank boss, the spikes felt the same as the noodle attack to me but the spike worked better against the blond infected chick in the flower mode. Edit: the upgrade that let's you do the spike ult from a drop makes the fight easy. I dropped 3 - 4 times to get her into the vulnerable state.
@sadle1331
@sadle1331 6 ай бұрын
The Noodle Attack, hahahaha
@Alex_Mercer_The_PROTOTYPE
@Alex_Mercer_The_PROTOTYPE 3 ай бұрын
Hope they bring this series back. So much interesting concept in the first game set up only to be ditched in favor for a different protagonist & story. I have no problem playing as James Heller but the idea of Mercer discovering about Pariah is something I want it to be explored more about in the sequel. Just imagine, before James Heller I would really want Alex to search for Pariah & understand what he or "it" is capable of as Dr. McMullen once stated that it would be extraordinarily bad if Alex & Pariah came to face to since both are very different Viruses. One being Alex (Blacklight Virus) a man made Genetically engineered Virus & Pariah (Redlight Virus) that was naturally born with Redlight. While still having a way to introduce James Heller in the middle of Mercer's & Pariah's conflict & rewriting Heller's character to be more than just an angry guy who cusses every 5 seconds.
@TheClumsyXeno
@TheClumsyXeno 2 ай бұрын
They need to sell the IP, and have the two games remade from the ground up. Bring improvements to both; the combat, cutscenes, and quests to the first game; the story, quests, and pacing of the second. Prototype deserves another shot.
@vomothytigan1640
@vomothytigan1640 2 жыл бұрын
Nice! I really need more [Prototype] in my life and this was fun to watch and very thorough. I have been toying with an idea for a prototype inspired game (not sure if I'll ever be able to work on that) and the critiques you have for the two games give me some ver important things to keep in mind for how to make it work.
@kaxcommentssomethingREAL
@kaxcommentssomethingREAL Жыл бұрын
the idea of a new prototype game is something that i wish could happen so badly, i really hope some indie developer out there has the chance to make a heavily inspired [Prototype]-type game in the future because i absolutely adore these games
@luci7061
@luci7061 Жыл бұрын
i love how everyone, including Alex, is like “he’s a sociopathic unfeeling MONSTER he’s a THING he’s NOT HUMAN he doesn’t have FEELINGS” and he’s constantly having big emotions right there on screen. anger, obviously. sadness and embarrassment when he realizes he scared Dana. mirth, from his little sassy quips. he’s literally a Cancer
@TyeTaylor
@TyeTaylor 2 жыл бұрын
Great video man you definitely deserve more subs I can tell you put a ton of work into this
@Nikolai0169
@Nikolai0169 2 жыл бұрын
Personally i prefer prototype 1's version of using part of your hp for your supers, gives it a bit of risk vs reward thats missing in prototype 2
@Thevintagepickle
@Thevintagepickle 3 жыл бұрын
I can’t imagine how much effort it takes to make an hour long video. Good shit man
@saltyshrimppasta
@saltyshrimppasta 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks dude I appreciate it!
@redgar6370
@redgar6370 5 ай бұрын
one thing is consistent to be a prototype protag u need a jacket and a hoody
@sweetchilliheat4559
@sweetchilliheat4559 Жыл бұрын
I find jumping or running to avoid damage is alot better than dodging. As you are alot faster, than the majority of the enemies.
@twilightsparkle75
@twilightsparkle75 7 ай бұрын
All the times you jumped around throwing stuff, i used the whipfist.
@KristopherSatchell
@KristopherSatchell 2 жыл бұрын
I just finished Prototype 2 for the first time as of today (7/14/2022). At 1:43:05 you mentioned it wasn't clear as to why Heller's daughter was a priority to Black Watch. There were to two agencies that were interested in Heller's daughter. The U.S. government originally had Heller's daughter because of her genetic makeup, which is compatible to the virus. Black Watch command wanted her as bait to kill Heller. Alex Mercer wanted to procreate with Heller's daughter, calling her the mother of the new world. He even mentioned, when she's of age... It was kind of pedophiliac if you ask me. He even told Heller during the boss fight Heller could have been the grandfather of the new world. "Who's the father?" Mercer is the father. I played Prototype 1 and 2 back to back so the plot is still kind of fresh to me. Mercer mentioned that he was not Alex anymore but the virus. Alex died on the street and the virus took over his body acquiring Alex's memories over time. I don't think Alex is a hero but an anti-hero, one step away from turning on the human race. Unfortunately with P2 the plot wasn't executed correctly. I think the concept of an anti-hero becoming a villain in a sequel is quite refreshing to see in a video game, however its of high risk if not written correctly. At the ending of Prototype 2 when Mercer's sister asked what's next, I think it was reference to her asking a similar question to Alex as to what his plans are when its over. Alex caused the second outbreak because he was fishing for people to procreate with. When he first knocked the helo out of the sky, with Heller in it, he was searching for Heller's body at first. When he found him alive, he assessed Heller before infecting. I always looked at Mercer as an undeveloped adult almost like a child, in the game he wanted the truth of his death but after he didn't know where his path lied, like he was still learning his existence. At the ending of P1 he was pondering his purpose in life. Between 1 and 2, he found it. Oh one more thing Black Watch wasn't confusing. In P1 Black Watch was riding both sides. They were conducting illegal activities at the same time pretending to be the resolution to the outbreak. In part two the deception was still the same. I think the franchise was quite ambitious having Black Watch as a supremist organization and can be argued a White Supremist organization calling themselves 'Black Watch.' The virus was originally intended to specifically target and kill a specific race of people. They didn't want to come out and say it but in the middle of the picture of children was a Black boy. Its too of a coincidence the mother of the new world was a Black girl. It implied the virus, that was designed to killer and her people, wanting to coexist with the people it was designed to kill. Prototype was more woke than people give it credit.
@aldiascholarofthefirstsin1051
@aldiascholarofthefirstsin1051 Жыл бұрын
The second game's story was garbage, stop defending it.
@davidwhidden9337
@davidwhidden9337 Жыл бұрын
No. Just no. Heller's daughter for unexplained reasons was resistant to the virus. A virus that was man made, wasn't in the wild, only released when Mercer ran away with it and was specifically made to go after humans. How on earth are people able to resist this science experiment that can infect buildings to make it spawn out giant creatures is just plot convenience. Mercer, or rather Blacklight, would not need to impregnate Heller's daughter. Why on EARTH would it need to? It's not a thing that's alive in a human/animal sense. It can shapeshift into whatever it needs. I'm not going to both responding to the rest of your comment. My god, is it based on some hot garbage information.
@chip8293
@chip8293 Жыл бұрын
I think Alex says that just to piss Heller.
@KristopherSatchell
@KristopherSatchell Жыл бұрын
@@chip8293 I don't think Heller cared if he pissed off Heller. I think he spoke the truth even before the boss fight. Without this plot it makes no sense for Alex to be obsessed with Heller's daughter.
@mihaimercenarul7467
@mihaimercenarul7467 Жыл бұрын
prototype 1 story is just as bad. Accept the fact that the gameplay is the only good thing about those two games, the story is just "a virus is spreading, and the military wants to control it.@@aldiascholarofthefirstsin1051
@bedbug2002
@bedbug2002 Жыл бұрын
Unpopular opinion but I really like prototype 2, it was good in its own way and I think it gets unnecessary Hate. The tendrils in PR2 had me playing the game for hours alone
@Cmeezy_goated
@Cmeezy_goated Жыл бұрын
Alex Mercer not being Alex Mercer is crazy plot twist
@Amigmamale
@Amigmamale Жыл бұрын
Way late but good video and I liked your take on Mercer at the end. His reason for suddenly being wesker was always flimsy at best especially since it was explained in a comic instead of the actual game. There is a video I saw that explained why Alex probably let Heller win and that's how I personally like to see his character in prototype 2 instead of outright character assassination like it probably is but I would've preferred your take on it
@AngeloXification
@AngeloXification Жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed the 2nd one. It was the first one I played. I enjoyed it so much I went back to play the first which I also enjoyed. I think its mostly cos I liked the story concept.
@aldiascholarofthefirstsin1051
@aldiascholarofthefirstsin1051 Жыл бұрын
You like garbage stories then...
@sadle1331
@sadle1331 6 ай бұрын
Haven't played P1 sadly :( I had a PS3 when i was younger, but that was when the PS4 was already out a Year or so. I have played P2 on my PS4 and enjoyed it a lot. I even played it on my old PS3 for some Time (Movie Vision, i miss you. You where the best Movie/Game Rental store in my Hometown). I liked the Movement. It's fun to speed around, glide, run up buildings. I liked the Combat. My favorite Abilities are the Claws and the Blade Arm. Heller just moves sick with both of these, combinating the Attacks looks cool af. Stealth is fun too, but not for very long. Seeing Gameplay and the Story of P1, i would love to play It. I really like the Transformations Mercer can go through, and his Shield just looks cooler. But also seeing how janky It is and how much you need to watch out, to not instantly Die, makes me think :"Jup, i'm playing this on Easymode" PS: The Story of P1 for me, seeing it explained is more fun and better. A Mystery on what you are and who you are, later understanding and acting on this just seems a little more intriguing than the simple Revenge Plot of P2. Don't get me wrong, but In my Opinion Mercer and Blackwatch are just Cartoon Evil Guys/Factions in P2. Mercer does what he does, because Humanity is "frail and stagnant", Blackwatch seems to just want to continue the Experiments and somehow gain "Control" or just to make Money. Classic Cartoon Villain Stuff, while Heller is the "Good" tough Guy who does everything without knowing mercy to avenge/save his Daughter. The Ending of P2 is pretty cool in my Opinion. Seeing Mercer evolve into every Weapon You have and just rip him to Shredds is just a cool Way to end the Story. But it's just "Cool" and not good or satisfying. If there is ever gonna be a Prototype 3 or a Remake of some kind, I hope the Mystery and the unanswered Questions of P1 or just creating the same/better Expirience of the whole Theme is beeing brought back.
@lucapangrazi9217
@lucapangrazi9217 Жыл бұрын
Flying kicks can stunlock hunters, just so you know
@lucapangrazi9217
@lucapangrazi9217 Жыл бұрын
And another thing i found out, the sword right click also can stunlock them, but it does not work against leader hunters, those cannot be stunlocked, you can stager them for a bit with the sword right click but they will counter with their aoe knockback and then stunlock you
@Kaino-wo3vc
@Kaino-wo3vc 2 ай бұрын
On the Elizabeth Greene boss fight, my strategy of defeating her was spamming the tendrils ability, and in order to always be able to use that ability, I'm thankful for the hunters chasing me, because consuming them gives you the ability back almost immediately.
@huaqinteng6350
@huaqinteng6350 3 жыл бұрын
I agree that hunters should not be in the Elizabeth Greene’s boss fight as it just makes the fight harder. I found getting high enough to do the air blade attack and immediately do a graveyard devastator
@jelly_channei
@jelly_channei 3 жыл бұрын
new shrimp video just when i was looking for something to watch, biggest pog of my life
@Miragemc1
@Miragemc1 3 ай бұрын
So i just watched this and after doing research i actually found out that mercers development happened in a comic series that had also introduced Heller as well. Kind of wish that was a prototype two so we could get to know the character more and understand mercers villian arc
@griffinthomas515
@griffinthomas515 2 жыл бұрын
Really good video! I almost skipped because of the low subs, but was hooked fairly quickly so good work :)
@godzillazfriction
@godzillazfriction 2 жыл бұрын
if i was salty shrimp then your comment would be deleted bruh
@aldiascholarofthefirstsin1051
@aldiascholarofthefirstsin1051 Жыл бұрын
Which retarded human being skips videos based on fucking subs, subs have nothing to do with quality!
@thebestnoob7873
@thebestnoob7873 2 жыл бұрын
Good video. Now I’ll just say the two I wanna say: 1. What’s up with the marines in prototype 2? They simply just exist and have no relevance whatsoever. I’m pretty sure the only time they ever even talk in a mission is during the intro and that’s it. They are equivalent to the police in prototype 1. 2. Imagine pulling down Alex Mercers hoodie and it’s revealed he’s actually Albert Wesker lol.
@saltyshrimppasta
@saltyshrimppasta 2 жыл бұрын
“Fooled again Chris!” “Who the fuck is Chris?”
@thebestnoob7873
@thebestnoob7873 2 жыл бұрын
@@saltyshrimppasta Can you imagine the cutscene where you confront Alex at the end going in the direction it did in the original RE1? “-your daughter will become the mother of the new world!” “…Ho haha ho haha” “Heller?” “Hahaha!” “Stop it!” “Alex, your pitiful. This is your ultimate plan? You say this dumbass idea is your ultimate plan?” “You can make sure yourself, whether the new world is a dumbass plan or not.” And then Alex gets impaled by Heller
@Saelendious
@Saelendious 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Well-structured commentary and good comedy. I hope Microsoft ends up doing something with the franchise eventually.
@saltyshrimppasta
@saltyshrimppasta 2 жыл бұрын
I’m glad you enjoyed it! I agree, I’d like to see a reboot of sorts for the franchise.
@Saelendious
@Saelendious 2 жыл бұрын
@@saltyshrimppasta I agree, I would definitely pick a franchise reboot over a third game.
@skybluenerd219
@skybluenerd219 Жыл бұрын
Microsoft?
@bedbug2002
@bedbug2002 Жыл бұрын
1:28:04 this is a bit of a reach but blackwatch could be doing both. Through out the story blackwatch was trying to find a cure which is white light but they were studying the virus by using infected people, and then later capturing uninfected people and putting them in cages with the infected so they could see how the virus spreads and mutates in fresh bodies. After alex used his blood to contaminate the cure blackwatch finally had a way to concentrate the virus and manually spread it which they wanted to use for chemical warfare- potentially sell it or use it themselves, I think Money was still their main goal, but their checkpoint was weaponzing the virus in secret while creating a cure publicly.
@hollowjack3007
@hollowjack3007 Жыл бұрын
Honestly the clunkier movement in two might be story related. Alex might’ve subconsciously knew he wasn’t fully human so he might’ve not been scared of falling or the speed of which he traveled while heller whos had years of military training and experience jumping out of planes and helicopters would be more cautious. I’m probably overthinking this so idk
@ibelieveingaming3562
@ibelieveingaming3562 Ай бұрын
For greene, ive found that the arial sword chop is the best for her tentacles, supplementing it with wipfist, and devastaters for big damage when she goes down. Its not actually that tedious.
@wellwoven2457
@wellwoven2457 2 жыл бұрын
I'm slightly confused by your claims that build optimization is a factor in Prototype 1. From my experience, I just bought whatever I thought looked cool or that I needed and then bought everything else late-game.
@saltyshrimppasta
@saltyshrimppasta 2 жыл бұрын
I’d love to explain my thoughts on that but I don’t even remember my point by now tbh.
@Commander6727
@Commander6727 Жыл бұрын
To me the games are like this to me, P1:The things I enjoyed about the game were being this amazing badass one person army with an amazing array of weapons and powers and abilities that always make my jaw drop using them. I loved being able to run dash and glide all over the open area that gave you so much stuff to look for and so on. I feel all of the powers are interesting but I will always enjoy the armor and the blade abilities the most. I will area the movement in tight areas is extremely annoying as well and being stun lock by enemies is extremely annoying as well. Over all the game was a blast and the intro was amazing axing showing off all of your abilities to come is amazing but yeah the blade and the armor were my most used. P2:This game was interesting as well and added more powers that I enjoyed and to me made all of the abilities viable over what the first game did but hated how once you get the abilities you need to go after infected or military to upgrade them and some times it gives upgrades for something you may not want. The upgrade in a way of more things to do in the game is amazing from lairs and other things was amazing. The story felt lacking to me and the movement to me felt wonky to me and felt way to easy from easier dodging, the shield and the pack ability as well. But over all I’ll still enjoy playing it from time to time but loved the new looks for many new things in this game.
@jackwilson7928
@jackwilson7928 2 жыл бұрын
Finally a full analysis of one of my favorite franchises excellent job my friend your humor and critiques were very entertaining.
@Farmos484
@Farmos484 2 жыл бұрын
This has to be the best prototype review I’ve ever seen!
@michaeljason2593
@michaeljason2593 Жыл бұрын
I honestly think Prototype 1’s release date should’ve been pushed back a year or two which would give the developers more time to realize where they were going wrong with the gameplay, challenges, collectibles, and story. Setting shouldn’t have been New York it should’ve been another state entirely while the characters should’ve been more humorous making it a stark contrast to InFAMOUS which was dark, brooding, and serious.
@modageddon2742
@modageddon2742 Жыл бұрын
A lot of the writers for prototype 1 didn't work on 2 so that's probably why the game focused on james heller rather than pariah (The codename for the child of elizabeth greene)
@whirlybird268
@whirlybird268 Жыл бұрын
I swear to God, I feel bad for Sabrina sometimes the way Heller just treats her like a Skank.
@saltyshrimppasta
@saltyshrimppasta Жыл бұрын
Heller really said, “I knew you’d betray me, so that’s why I continuously talked down to and belittled you for the entirety of our brief alliance.”
@ChromaticWand
@ChromaticWand Жыл бұрын
Prototype 1 is one of my favorites super hero style of game. Lots of powers and upgrades. And fun as crap to play. The second one has a special place as I had played some of it when I was pretty young, 10 or so. But Alex imo felt so much more fun to play. And James was basically big guy that's mad 😅and he had less abilities. More individual upgrades per power was cool in the 2nd tho!
@randomfactsthatdontmatter3466
@randomfactsthatdontmatter3466 Жыл бұрын
I think that BlackWatch and their seemingly contradicting goals shows the influence that Mercer is beginning to have on them in the second game. Mercer continuously infiltrates them in various ways and turns the staff to his way of thinking. Of course not everything is the his benefit but that makes sense given how unlikely it js that he has absolute control over them (like how they trued to bomb the city.) You can even see the physical differences between the first and second game as Mercer gains control, namely the outfit change, going from more standard looking military gear to the hood and blade on the arm.
@saltyshrimppasta
@saltyshrimppasta Жыл бұрын
That actually makes a lot of sense.
@shreq128
@shreq128 3 жыл бұрын
This is actually a really good video, good job man
@matrix3509
@matrix3509 Жыл бұрын
Prototype came out close to the release of the first Infamous game and were compared endlessly, but I always preferred this game to Infamous because of its traversal. Unfortunately, the devs never realized what they had, because they could have filled the map with collectibles like Crackdown did, and it would have given the game a metric fuckton of mileage, but instead, the world is utterly empty. There is a lot of similarity between Prototype's traversal and Saint's Row 4 weirdly enough.
@nilo5747
@nilo5747 2 жыл бұрын
I like the idea of Alex devolving to his baser instincts after a long mental battle, and that by killing him we're also doing him a massive favour. But I also like the idea of Alex having to rediscover his own humanity. Even at the end of the game, he recognises what he's done and understands it's wrong. A virus alone doesn't have a moral compass. A virus doesn't have empathy. We could have a climactic boss-battle still, but I feel it would have worked much better for his character if Dana snapped him out of it, which brings me to another point. I strongly feel that Alex still has his protective instincts for Dana even at the end of the game. That innate empathy and care for another being that no matter how hard he could try, he'd never truly be able to remove. In short, the part of him that remains human, even if he himself isn't. If Dana's life was threatened and Nihilistic Alex was there to know it, I still believe he'd have a deep urge to make sure that threat can never harm her. Returning back to the boss battle, Alex is snapped out of his nihilistic daze he's devolved to, and just like Prototype 1 Alex, he begins to introspect and look back on what he's done. He begins to realize that the greatest threat to Dana's life, is himself, and every 'human' fiber of Alex's being coils in hate and disgust at that thought. He can't continue on like this, he refuses to, and in his final act, he asks Heller to take his life, so that he doesn't end up taking Dana's. The two say their goodbyes, Dana still calling Alex her brother, and after a moment of hesitation, Heller quickly and efficiently consumes Alex, ending it's life once and for all.
@psychoticgod5035
@psychoticgod5035 Жыл бұрын
The funny thing is for most of Prototye after I unlocked the hook arm I only used it because I would run and jump so I can attack at a range while still move. Made the game so easy besides that dam second last boss. So big and so tanky
@ShiddyShad808
@ShiddyShad808 9 ай бұрын
The soundtrack was intense, when specific missions got hectic there was a fun flow to this game mixed with the sound design.
@JoeLeone117
@JoeLeone117 10 ай бұрын
Muscle mass is the better long range option of the game, the whip is only decent if you spam the sweeping attack to eliminate weak enemies or if there aren't objects to throw. Muscle mass is the best way to deal with helicopters too, both highjacking and damagewise, a charged flying kick basically oneshots all of them, it pulls its weight against hunters too, you can stun lock them for a bit by using the shock wave attack repeatedly and by doing the aerial combos, it also dishes out some of the highest damege in the game with the divebomb attack you do from gliding (the best way to deal with Elizabeth Green may I add) and since you're alway on the move it's harder to get hit.
@Heidern..
@Heidern.. 10 ай бұрын
Buffs every single special move hard and when u use muscle wirh devastator attacks.... Goodbye enemy health bar lmao Idk why it's not mentioned but it actually boosts special and supers attack by alot Muscle mass is top 2 power for me soley cuz it buffs everything and cuz blade just too op lol I find it better than blade when doing coward attacks... Muscle + cannon ball and run away spam lol Or hunter stuns Or make special moves actually deal damage
@lowtiershadowyt9008
@lowtiershadowyt9008 Ай бұрын
The tie in comics the anchor shows mercers dive into who he is now
@thomasquwack9503
@thomasquwack9503 8 ай бұрын
Elbowdrop on tanks fucks them up. You messed up. Muscle mass is also one of the best abilities period- it quads your damage on devastator
@saltyshrimppasta
@saltyshrimppasta 8 ай бұрын
Yeah I was 100% sleeping on that one. It’s inarguably the most incorrect thing in this video.
@himynameis3664
@himynameis3664 2 ай бұрын
I never played this to go about completing it. I kust enjoyed leveling up and creating as much chaos as possible
@leonkaizer5297
@leonkaizer5297 Жыл бұрын
I really love this game to the point where i always dream as one of Alex's Evolves 😂
@militaristica
@militaristica Жыл бұрын
35:00 the easiest way by far to beat EG is by using devastators, specifically the spike graveyard. if you max it out and then farm the two hunters that respawn repeatedly for full critical mass, you can do 2 devastators to knock her down, and a single last one to take out more than half of her health. it's cheesing but man it works
@s0meRand0m129
@s0meRand0m129 4 ай бұрын
easiest way to cheese elizabeth green is to use the hand blade, run up a building as high as you can and do dive attack with hand blade from your peak high , in easy mode it take out the tentacles entire hp bar in one hit
@westievl2247
@westievl2247 2 жыл бұрын
1:12:29 THAT WAS JUST SO FUNNY ONGG, NICE VIDEOO BTW
@AndrewAce.
@AndrewAce. Жыл бұрын
1:41:14 - One interesting detail there is the difference in how he consumes enemies. He consumes marines quickly and cleanly while he consumes blackwatch troops with excessive brutality... It's just a cool detail...
@ibelieveingaming3562
@ibelieveingaming3562 Ай бұрын
Final thoughts! Amazing video. You gave a valueable critique. I played alot of prototype 1 & 2 and I prefer Prototype 1's gritty realism but I also love Prototype 2. You sound like you've already become a fan and I'm so stoked about that! Welcome to the wait for Prototype 3 😅. Also the fanfictions are really good 😶
@epicmonkey6663
@epicmonkey6663 4 ай бұрын
The first game is probably my favorite especially because of the biomass armor that you can summon and just look like a monster running around the City I don't mind the doge being altered when wearing the armour because if you put claws on while running around in armor you kind of look like a monster and the armor is perfect in small spaces like the military base because the movement isn't as dashing about because of the slower effects of having the armor I found it easier to maneuver around the military base and jump off walls running on all fours so I feel like that's pretty cool and if you destroy a base and there's no strike teams available to come at you with helicopters and tanks you just feel like a beast going through the remaining military that are there shooting at you just slowly walking up to them and then slicing them with the the second game iv debugged to make more fun and now I can summon different creatures and things like that but prototype has just a better range of powers
@ExaltedRiven
@ExaltedRiven Жыл бұрын
Personally I feel in 2 the mc is more jacked and bulky compared to mc in 1, hence the change in movement system. But I do miss the hammer yeet and the full armor mode in 1
@garotogaivota14
@garotogaivota14 Жыл бұрын
for all major boss fights in P1, you could just have used shield (minor defense but keeps your agility) and whipfist charged Y/triangle. Best single enemy focus strat in the game
@MILDMONSTER1234
@MILDMONSTER1234 Жыл бұрын
Which is not as fun but it’s effective
@garotogaivota14
@garotogaivota14 Жыл бұрын
@@MILDMONSTER1234 specially if you were going for the achievement to beat the story without dying once
@cryguy0000
@cryguy0000 Жыл бұрын
​@@garotogaivota14 That's what easy mode is for, well that and for a more balanced and fun experience
@canadianturtle7240
@canadianturtle7240 Жыл бұрын
Infamous was leagues better, so glad I grew up with a PS3. Experienced both games series.
@michaeljason2593
@michaeljason2593 3 жыл бұрын
I think the reason why Prototype 2 tanked was more due to the audience it aimed for, emotional people who were idiots who only judged things from a surface level. They didn't like how everyone was so serious and morally gray so they were turned abruptly evil to appease their simple minded views on Prototype 1 because they can't or won't see things in a spectrum of color. Heller didn't help it's case but in fact made it much worse as he was just a stereotypical angry black guy brute and he had no goal or plan in mind like Mercer did back in P1 who was calm, collected, and focused. Most people just brush off Mercer as an emo boy but he's much deeper that those dumbasses can't get because they're children in the bodies of adults.
@saltyshrimppasta
@saltyshrimppasta 3 жыл бұрын
Mercer was much more than just an emo boy. He was an emo boy in cowboy boots, and there’s a HUGE difference between the two
@michaeljason2593
@michaeljason2593 3 жыл бұрын
@Salty Shrimp Pasta care to elaborate for me?
@saltyshrimppasta
@saltyshrimppasta 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t think I’m capable of justifying how stupid that joke was.
@michaeljason2593
@michaeljason2593 3 жыл бұрын
@Salty Shrimp Pasta oh it was a joke. Sorry I didn’t get it since my sense of humor is dry as sand.
@saltyshrimppasta
@saltyshrimppasta 3 жыл бұрын
You’re fine! I tend to throw out sarcastic comments randomly and forget that they’re much harder to pick up on over text.
@billyboleson2830
@billyboleson2830 Жыл бұрын
For the longest time I assumed cross and Greene were related it almost seems like something from a previous draft
@MrAnimeFan4Eva
@MrAnimeFan4Eva 9 ай бұрын
This series is my all time favorite for just superhero/monster sandbox...I used to spend hours just patsy a whole base so fun ❤ also tendrils are sick
@Sush-jt8gm
@Sush-jt8gm 9 ай бұрын
Great analysis 👍 one of the best one. Additionally prototype 1 also consists of some unique powers(although poor controls) which are very cool like patsy, air strike, cannon ball, backflips, more speed, climbing buildings like Spiderman and so on.I am not denying the fact that Heller also has unique powers in p2. But p1 allows you to flex more than that of p2(this is just an opinion please don't take it otherwise) for example if you press any key to conjure offensive/defensive power your character will flex at first (Also the colour/texture of the city 🌆 ❤️♥️.These are some advantages of p1 over p2. Besides p1 has good looking NPCs 🤗(no one can deny this fact😂)
@Drunken_Hamster
@Drunken_Hamster Жыл бұрын
I'm about halfway through and so far I think this is one of my favorite analyses of the Prototype series. To expand on what you said about P2's gameplay, I'm pretty sure that with max upgrades Heller has a higher top speed and acceleration than Mercer, but he definitely wall runs slower. Combine that with glide being bound to sprint as well as the "hold to ascend" jumping style instead of the charge jump, not to mention the lack of other environmental interactivity like sliding down walls and the parkour, and I find P2's movement slightly less enjoyable. But with the shield bash and overhead dodge, the combat is definitely more managable. I just wish they kept it as a 1 power at a time with 2 attack buttons instead of the dual-power thing that made stuff too easy.
@Drunken_Hamster
@Drunken_Hamster Жыл бұрын
After finishing the video, I think I agree with your overall analysis, too. I wonder what your perspective on a third game would be compared to Whitelight and Purposeless Rabitholes' videos on the subject. Would you prefer a Reboot, a Continuation, or something else, perhaps involving Pariah?
@saltyshrimppasta
@saltyshrimppasta Жыл бұрын
@@Drunken_Hamster I think they should take the big balled approach by retconning the events of P2 by making Mercer an evil clone, while the real Mercer was out looking for Pariah. Just say that it was a proto-Orion program that went terribly wrong, so Blackwatch scaled back the idea to create a greater quantity of lower quality subjects, since they’d be easier to reign in if they went rogue. This would piss off all 4 of the comic fans, but that’s okay.
@Drunken_Hamster
@Drunken_Hamster Жыл бұрын
@@saltyshrimppasta So, basically what Purposeless Rabbitholes came up with. Oh, it should be noted: Whitelight USED to have a story video AND a gameplay video, but the story video has mysteriously disappeared.
@saltyshrimppasta
@saltyshrimppasta Жыл бұрын
@@Drunken_Hamster Interesting. I wonder if he wasn’t proud of it so he just delisted it.
@Drunken_Hamster
@Drunken_Hamster Жыл бұрын
@@saltyshrimppasta IDK, it was really good if you ask me. A nice, dark, serious story with a good bit of abstract concepts being explored.
@midgerm
@midgerm 10 ай бұрын
the thing about the elizabeth greene fight in the first prototype? i doubt its there to feel fair and balanced; elizabeth greene dosent want to lose, she dosent want to die, so she'll do whatever she can to win; spam hunters and use the big fleshy thing as a sheild the first prototype actually had bosses that FELT and played like they WANTED to win prototype 2, its kinda hard to feel like the final boss WANTS to win, look at the difference in how elizabeth greebe abd tge supreme hunter play and compare it to the final boss in prototype 2 also it makes sense that mercer is traumatized now: he's not human, but he's eaten enough people that he's seen their entire lives and felt everything they felt up until he reaches the end where he see's himself from the perspective of the person he ate and he feels and remembers EVERYTHIGN they would have: the unncertanty, the anger, the fear, the hope and hopelessness he see's and feels what they would have as they fought until he ate them alive; so he's seeing HIMSELF from THEIR persepctive and feels how they would have felt being eaten; now do that for EVERY person he has consumed and thats alot of lifes lived and familys and love torn apart; hopes and dreams crushed and the cocktail of emotions that come with seeing some strange.....thing that looks human but is NOT comming at you, grabs you, and then eats you peice by peice seemingly without a care in the world.....but HE's the thing that ate the person who owned that memory so he's seeing himself eating himself and seeing his former life flash before his eyes before his last bit of conciousness is confusmed by mercer...and comes full circle
@NJX247
@NJX247 2 жыл бұрын
Ngl I’ve been watching most of your reviews, great vids reminiscent of whitelight or Joseph Anderson’s critiques
@saltyshrimppasta
@saltyshrimppasta 2 жыл бұрын
I definitely feel I pull some from Joseph Anderson (he was the channel that got me interested in game critiques so it makes sense). If you want another channel who does this arguably even more, I’d check out Tetramore. His Kingdom Hearts video is really freaking good.
@kruzxeron3960
@kruzxeron3960 10 ай бұрын
prototype is the most dangerous outbreak ever, the survival rate is so low. especially when you have monsters like goliath. and imagine how a normal human has to do to survive.
@MourningStar7143
@MourningStar7143 10 ай бұрын
For me, the way i see the games is simple: P1: better story, characters, and atmosphere P2: overall more enjoyable gameplay, more fair difficulty (looking at your bs boss fight in the first game greene), and much better visuals
@saltyshrimppasta
@saltyshrimppasta 10 ай бұрын
100% agree! I’d love to see a remaster of the first game that smooths out some of the brick wall encounters, but I don’t know if that’ll ever happen.
@SGR403
@SGR403 9 ай бұрын
Kinda late for this video, but I love your thoughts on the change of character of Zeus/"Mercer", I think the sequel should've been written to include Pariah, he could've been a great antagonist as he is the opposite of both Heller and Zeus/Mercer. They were created artificially and Zeus is just a reanimated corpse, Pariah is natural and possibly more dangerous than both of them. I imagine Zeus living away from society to think about his existence and only coming back when he's framed of infecting New York with blacklight again, so he saves and infects Heller who is bitter by the death of his family and both decide to unite against the true culprit of the virus.
@average_gamerbutdum774
@average_gamerbutdum774 Жыл бұрын
musclemass is prettty useful for fighting supersoldiers while the best strategy to fight elizabeth greene is using the hammerfist skill "hammertoss" from a high building
@cryguy0000
@cryguy0000 Жыл бұрын
Yeah the game actual has a weakness system. There are effects that appear when you hit enemies and they show you what's effective and what isn't. Giving each power its own utility
@sweetchilliheat4559
@sweetchilliheat4559 Жыл бұрын
one of the earliest games i played in the ps3 gen was prototype 1, man it was fun. so many abiltiies, challenges, replayability,etc.
@FidelCastroImpersonator
@FidelCastroImpersonator Жыл бұрын
I love how Heller calls out Mercers edgy dialogue lmao
@Gamefreak2998
@Gamefreak2998 Жыл бұрын
A mistake of the sequel was standardizing runners as a semi normal enemy when they would of been better suited as bosses with their own unique characteristics separate from mercer. He was the outlier not the standard form
@localdude2979
@localdude2979 Жыл бұрын
MAN I miss this game.. Ill play both again..
@liamdean3478
@liamdean3478 2 жыл бұрын
IMO this IP should be rebooted and I'm doing a story concept for my own prototype idea and I will write a novel for that.
@WinterPains
@WinterPains Жыл бұрын
16:37 I imagine you'll probably mention this later in the video, but Mercer isn't suffering from amnesia so much as he just doesn't really exist anymore. You dont actually play as Alex Mercer, you play as the Blackwater Virus in the form of Alex Mercer.
@leonkaizer5297
@leonkaizer5297 Жыл бұрын
The story is about a Virus living or should i say trying to live as a Human
@cryguy0000
@cryguy0000 Жыл бұрын
I mean, kinda. The virus sort of went into mercer, and became him. He was effectively consumed by the virus and since that's how the virus started its life cycle it effectively became him
@amateurplaygames6435
@amateurplaygames6435 Жыл бұрын
I don't know if you know this but there's actually a comic following mercer after the events of *PROTOTYPE* *1* the reason why he's all *VILLAINY* in the second game is because of the events that happened in the comics. . Also this just the Fandoms *THEORY* but....the reason why the Mercer fight is easy is because mercer is not talking you seriously... he's actually mentoring you if you notice the reason for this is because Heller is not selfish, he's not thinking about himself but thinking about his daughter. . Also the reason why *WE* the Fandom are still hoping for *PROTOTYPE* *3* is because Elizabeth Greene child is still somewhere out there..so should a 3rd *prototype game will come the character we would be playing would be the child.
@aldiascholarofthefirstsin1051
@aldiascholarofthefirstsin1051 Жыл бұрын
Why do people keep bringing up that garbage comic as if it fixes the garbage story of the second game?
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