Prototype Johnson Model R Military Rifle

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When Melvin Johnson's rifle design was first going through US military testing in 1938, it was set up to use box magazines. These magazines were a problem - they were not quite fully perfected, and were causing a lot of the problem that the rifle was having. Johnson opted to withdraw the rifle from trials, and revise the design to use a 10-round rotary magazine instead.
This took place after his relationship with the Marlin company had ended, and a machine shop called Taft-Peirce had signed a contract to make rifles for Johnson. They designated the new rotary magazine type of rifle the Model R, and made seven military pattern examples for further trials (as well as seven sporting pattern guns). the military model had a bayonet lug for a Krag/Springfield standard bayonet, and a wooden handguard on the exposed front section of the barrel.
Thanks to the Cody Firearms Museum for allowing me access to film this prototype rifle! Check them out here:
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@Thaddeus2007
@Thaddeus2007 3 жыл бұрын
"He had also been planning to demonstrate the rifle in The Netherlands but that visit was called off on a forecast with a high probability of Nazis." Ian is a comedic genius.
@mattwoodard2535
@mattwoodard2535 3 жыл бұрын
That line is good enough to be a Drachism. sm
@nzoththedeepwatcher1616
@nzoththedeepwatcher1616 3 жыл бұрын
goddamn time jumping nazis
@m.degroot6837
@m.degroot6837 3 жыл бұрын
I did Nazi that comming
@Thaddeus2007
@Thaddeus2007 3 жыл бұрын
@@m.degroot6837 Ayyy, nice.
@chrislaverne4481
@chrislaverne4481 3 жыл бұрын
The comments seem to consist of "that's not a swing swivel,that's a stacking swivel" or "Ian really shouldn't be playing with somebody else's Johnson"
@Ugly_German_Truths
@Ugly_German_Truths 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah a bunch of 60 year olds with the sense of humor of 12 year olds... *sigh*
@johnmcmickle5685
@johnmcmickle5685 3 жыл бұрын
In fact Ian made a video about stacking rods and swivels in 2018.
@jpm83
@jpm83 3 жыл бұрын
He he he he Ian is talking about Johnson development. ;P
@CtrlAltRetreat
@CtrlAltRetreat 3 жыл бұрын
@@ca9968 Yes, this was what happens when one wants someone to put their feed lips on their Johnson better.
@bigblue6917
@bigblue6917 3 жыл бұрын
@@CtrlAltRetreat My mother told me about people like you. She said watch out for them. They're really funny.
@hoilst265
@hoilst265 3 жыл бұрын
You can't trust soldiers to use their Johnsons responsibly. Bad idea.
@windhelmguard5295
@windhelmguard5295 3 жыл бұрын
*syphilis intensifies*
@hughtattersall7583
@hughtattersall7583 3 жыл бұрын
We can't trust our Johnson to do anything responsibly!
@donjones4719
@donjones4719 3 жыл бұрын
This is my rifle, this is my gun. One is for shooting, the other's for fun. Or??? This is my Johnson, this is my Johnson. One is for shooting, the other's for fun. The Gunny would be confused...
@r.b.rozier9692
@r.b.rozier9692 3 жыл бұрын
You win the internet today, sir!
@murderouskitten2577
@murderouskitten2577 3 жыл бұрын
you cant trust soldiers to use anything ,that they dont personaly own , responsibly :D
@orthy853
@orthy853 3 жыл бұрын
Those weatherman in the Netherlands… they have the strangest forecasts…
@wraithcadmus
@wraithcadmus 3 жыл бұрын
But accurate in this instance, which is more than I can say for my local forecasters.
@88porpoise
@88porpoise 3 жыл бұрын
@Khail Kupsky yeah, if you just mosey on down to Belgium it is twice as likely.
@jorisvanoeffel4721
@jorisvanoeffel4721 3 жыл бұрын
@Khail Kupsky rain, yes. Flood, never. We’re way too high.
@seangannon6081
@seangannon6081 3 жыл бұрын
And I always thought snow was the worst part of the forecast, but a high chance of Nazis is a lot worse.
@remko1238
@remko1238 3 жыл бұрын
@@jorisvanoeffel4721 - high on what ? 😂 We are still raising the dijken
@Elmarby
@Elmarby 3 жыл бұрын
I am a little concerned for Ian's safety. I mean... someone successfully lured him into a basement promising to shown him their Johnson. Didn't Ian's mother warn him about this sort of thing?!
@RdClZn
@RdClZn 3 жыл бұрын
Their BIG and POWERFUL Johnson
@flightlesschicken7769
@flightlesschicken7769 3 жыл бұрын
@@fredo51 what?
@TheCheat_1337
@TheCheat_1337 3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately when it comes to WW2 firearms, sometimes people can be wildly misunderstood. If you ever get invited to examine a Grease Gun, get shown someone's Johnson, play with some Boys and inspect a very rare Nazi PP don't turn down the opportunity even if it sounds suspicious at first.
@zacharyrollick6169
@zacharyrollick6169 3 жыл бұрын
@@fredo51 Who thought that?
@gunnermurphy6632
@gunnermurphy6632 3 жыл бұрын
@@zacharyrollick6169 dn did i believe
@jeffreyholdeman3042
@jeffreyholdeman3042 3 жыл бұрын
“ forecast with a high probability of Nazi’s..” I’m dying! 🤣😂🤣
@danspragens4935
@danspragens4935 3 жыл бұрын
Cloudy with a Chance of Stukas was not the most successful children's book.
@UniversalReiska
@UniversalReiska 3 жыл бұрын
Im crying, this is so hilarious
@davidbrennan660
@davidbrennan660 3 жыл бұрын
Bad Ju Ju..... always check the political forecasts before selling arms.
@TheWolfsnack
@TheWolfsnack 3 жыл бұрын
@@danspragens4935 ...right next to "Heinz's new Black Uniform"
@petev.6598
@petev.6598 3 жыл бұрын
Better take your umbrella with you then!
@johnstacy7902
@johnstacy7902 3 жыл бұрын
All the fan boys are losing it over Ian showing off his Johnson ...
@Ugly_German_Truths
@Ugly_German_Truths 3 жыл бұрын
It's not even HIS or he would not have had to go to Cody to show it :P
@SlavicCelery
@SlavicCelery 3 жыл бұрын
All the fan boys are losing it over Ian showing off a Buffalo Bill Johnson.* FTFY
@FBNJ90
@FBNJ90 3 жыл бұрын
"You didn't click on this video to look at the markings, you clicked on this to look at this funky, weird handguard." He really gets us.
@wizardofahhhs759
@wizardofahhhs759 3 жыл бұрын
Some people just like to see other guys Johnson handguards.
@Ass_of_Amalek
@Ass_of_Amalek 2 жыл бұрын
you've never seen an uncircumcized johnson before?
@norinco8724
@norinco8724 3 жыл бұрын
an uncut johnson, one could call it
@i_may_be_stupid
@i_may_be_stupid 3 жыл бұрын
remove this right now
@axilleastsoulas1036
@axilleastsoulas1036 3 жыл бұрын
Delet This 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Vagabond671
@Vagabond671 3 жыл бұрын
I hope you get top comment sir.
@axilleastsoulas1036
@axilleastsoulas1036 3 жыл бұрын
@@At0mic890 I mean they do directly contribute to these videos...
@MrPossumeyes
@MrPossumeyes 3 жыл бұрын
@@axilleastsoulas1036 Yes they do. And if anyone feels hard done by viewing later there's an easy choice to make. (... not saying At0mic890 feels that way, mind ....)
@mustang5132
@mustang5132 3 жыл бұрын
During a world war, the forecast for invasion in the Netherlands is 50%
@bryanengland2466
@bryanengland2466 3 жыл бұрын
That front "sling swivel" has a notch missing. I'm thinking that may be for stacking the rifles more than an actual sling point
@Taolan8472
@Taolan8472 3 жыл бұрын
Could be both. Could be a shooting hook as well, loop the sling through it temporarily to provide additional stability in standing or kneeling firing positions.
@SuperDrummerdude94
@SuperDrummerdude94 3 жыл бұрын
That’s what I was thinking, as well. Just like on the M1 Garand and the M1903.
@Jeffersonian1
@Jeffersonian1 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, that should be a stacking swivel, while the actual sling would use the one in the middle. Using a shooting sling like the M1907, as trained, would likely cause malfunctions if using the forward swivel, as tension on the sling would interfere with the reciprocating barrel.
@dr.threatening8622
@dr.threatening8622 3 жыл бұрын
Uncle Sam loves his rifle teepees.
@Spardyman
@Spardyman 3 жыл бұрын
This gun seems like it would fit nicely in a Fallout game.
@Ojoe2010
@Ojoe2010 3 жыл бұрын
It was in a game called Hidden and Dangerous if I remember it correctly...
@DeviantOllam
@DeviantOllam 3 жыл бұрын
Ian: "the very first two Johnson prototype rifles were made by a little machine shop" My brain: "a /violent/ little machine shop?" 😏
@ScottKenny1978
@ScottKenny1978 3 жыл бұрын
No more violent than your home shop.
@wizardofahhhs759
@wizardofahhhs759 3 жыл бұрын
The JAR, Johnson Automatic Rifle.
@sparky6855
@sparky6855 3 жыл бұрын
I always look forward to Ian talking about unusual Johnsons
@detalite
@detalite 3 жыл бұрын
That's a perfect example of really big and nice Johnson.
@breaden4381
@breaden4381 3 жыл бұрын
Him and lockpickinglawyer have the best Johnsons
@LuminaryCursorem
@LuminaryCursorem 3 жыл бұрын
Looks like a clean Johnson too. Have to be gentle and make sure not to rough it up.
@shootingwithmitch5921
@shootingwithmitch5921 3 жыл бұрын
A lovely looking rifle, but if you really look at it you can see why it never really worked out as a military arm. Simply put, there is just too much going on, reciprocating barrel, weird magazine, over complicated wood etc.. The Garand by comparison is elegantly simple.
@keithallardice6139
@keithallardice6139 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful rifle and a fascinating history as well - kind of a shame this never made it I like it a lot!! I would love to visit the Cody Firearms Museum, seems just like my kinda place and ... best of all .. it's recommended by Gun Jesus!
@SNOUPS4
@SNOUPS4 3 жыл бұрын
Also recommended by Ashley Hlebinsky: "Gun Mary" ;)
@tommyblackwell3760
@tommyblackwell3760 3 жыл бұрын
The swivel up near the bayonet lug is a stacking swivel, to allow soldiers to stack their weapons in a sort of teepee.
@NTD_armement
@NTD_armement Жыл бұрын
Yes, it's a typical french traditional technique. In French it's name "Quillon" (or "quillons" if is concern more rifles)
@redjoshman
@redjoshman 3 жыл бұрын
@8:47 That is not a sling swivel but instead a stacking swivel. Stacking swivels, of that design, have been on US Army Rifles since the 1873 Springfield. The M1 Rifle was the last US Army rifle with the stacking swivel, with the feature being deleted with the adoption of the M14.
@petesheppard1709
@petesheppard1709 3 жыл бұрын
You can still stack M14s and later rifles by making a small loop in the sling, and sticking the barrels of two other rifles through it to make the tripod.
@markmulder9845
@markmulder9845 3 жыл бұрын
If i'm being honest... that gun sounds and looks like something straight out of fallout.
@djraythefurry0420
@djraythefurry0420 3 жыл бұрын
Lol I was just playing battlefield 5 experimenting with the Johnson , it's nice to see history on a gun I wasn't exposed to about world war II , good luck Ian
@dickdastardly4236
@dickdastardly4236 3 жыл бұрын
"The Johnson does reasonably well but fails to impress..." Story of my life. 12:11
@TheBlu04
@TheBlu04 3 жыл бұрын
Your not wrong, lmao
@TheLakabanzaichrg
@TheLakabanzaichrg 3 жыл бұрын
Amen to that
@erzherzogalbrecht8504
@erzherzogalbrecht8504 3 жыл бұрын
The swivel on the bajonett lug looks like a stacking swivel, for building rifle pyramids
@dj1NM3
@dj1NM3 3 жыл бұрын
I could also imagine that even if a sling could be attached there, that perhaps attching a sling to a reciprocating part of the action doesn't sound like a very good idea.
@FIREBRAND38
@FIREBRAND38 3 жыл бұрын
It looks like it because it is.
@sniperfreak223
@sniperfreak223 3 жыл бұрын
Yep. Definitely a stacking swivel.
@JohnTBlock
@JohnTBlock 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely a stacking swivel....
@windhelmguard5295
@windhelmguard5295 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely a stacking swivel?
@FIREBRAND38
@FIREBRAND38 3 жыл бұрын
8:50 That's not a sling swivel but rather a stacking swivel same as on the M1 Garand. At the command of STACK ARMS three soldiers would hook together 3 stacking swivels to form a tripod.
@captainswoop8722
@captainswoop8722 3 жыл бұрын
Lee Enfield rifles have a similar fitting
@FIREBRAND38
@FIREBRAND38 3 жыл бұрын
@@captainswoop8722 Lots of rifles had stacking swivels. Springfields, Krags, M1917s and others kzbin.info/www/bejne/p3LSmaWterGdrJI
@georgekoribanic2524
@georgekoribanic2524 3 жыл бұрын
Beat me to it. Dang.
@xgford94
@xgford94 3 жыл бұрын
I’m stunned Ian got that wrong… it’s got the open section in the loop …curious
@MosoKaiser
@MosoKaiser 3 жыл бұрын
@Atman Gotango No, even worse, that's clearly a full automatic tactical assault muzzle enhancement device.
@Lunageldia
@Lunageldia 3 жыл бұрын
"You didn't click on this video to look at the markings... You clicked on it to look at this weird funky handguard." I happen to actually be in the "Oh it's today's video, Nice. Let's check it out." camp I assume I'm not entirely alone in that regard.
@georgekoribanic2524
@georgekoribanic2524 3 жыл бұрын
I do believe that the sling swivel on the end is a stacking swivel instead. But I could be wrong.
@michaelhill2844
@michaelhill2844 3 жыл бұрын
You are correct.
@Ugly_German_Truths
@Ugly_German_Truths 3 жыл бұрын
No you aren't wrong, easy to recognize: sling swivels are CLOSED, stacking swivels have got that cut to fiddle them together and apart again. and you mostly find them on American gun designs. Ian even made a long video explaining the different forms of these stacking methods and was so happy he finally got shown the correct way to use stacking swivels after he never understood how they work. Seems he is too busy with seeing hundreds of guns per year to remember half the things his audience watches these video reviews for :D
@bad74maverick1
@bad74maverick1 3 жыл бұрын
@@Ugly_German_Truths I got bad news for you. That IS a stacking swivel. If you look real close especially @8:50 paused, it's split at the bottom. you can clearly tell before and after it's a stacking swivel not a forward sling swivel.
@not-a-theist8251
@not-a-theist8251 3 жыл бұрын
My Johnson works perfectly fine. Never had any developmental issues or anything like that
@jamesallred460
@jamesallred460 3 жыл бұрын
Lololol!
@jamesallred460
@jamesallred460 3 жыл бұрын
@Jonesy 1776 no probably not, but I'm 6 years old apparently so I went with it, 😉👍
@nicholsliwilson
@nicholsliwilson 3 жыл бұрын
Didn’t expect to see someone’s Johnson in a Forgotten Weapons video… I don’t think that was Ian’s Johnson, I think someone else got theirs out for him?
@nicholsliwilson
@nicholsliwilson 3 жыл бұрын
I did these jokes so you don’t have to. 😄
@TheWolfsnack
@TheWolfsnack 3 жыл бұрын
@@nicholsliwilson ...whips out Johnson, affixes bayonet....
@nicholsliwilson
@nicholsliwilson 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheWolfsnack LOL!
@magoshighlands4074
@magoshighlands4074 3 жыл бұрын
I mean, do you really expect anything else from us?
@Immopimmo
@Immopimmo 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe it was a "show me yours, I'll show you mine" kind of situation.
@Tadicuslegion78
@Tadicuslegion78 3 жыл бұрын
I know I know you will all tell me it’s pointless, but this is a rifle I wouldn’t mind someone making modern replicas of.
@bravo0105
@bravo0105 3 жыл бұрын
It sure would be nice to have new production of the M1941 given the HIDEOUS prices which will only get worse. I’d like a supply of new parts, particularly barrels, and a new-manufacture rifle. Unfortunately, the demand likely isn’t there to make production profitable.
@Tadicuslegion78
@Tadicuslegion78 3 жыл бұрын
@@bravo0105 well..somehow Italy keeps churning out all those cowboy guns, I think i could be done, but it would just require getting these peasky youngsters to stop thinking solely in AR15s.
@bravo0105
@bravo0105 3 жыл бұрын
The 19th Century cowboy guns are better known, mechanically simpler, won’t be as exacting tolerance-wise as a semiautomatic, and are chambered in lower-pressure cartridges than .30-06. I can’t begrudge the youngsters their Stoner-Armalites as they’re cheaper and effectively a refined Johnson Automatic. The next best thing would be a BRN-10.
@sipofsunscorchedsarsaparil6052
@sipofsunscorchedsarsaparil6052 3 жыл бұрын
I'd love a scaled down model in 7.62*39.
@Peagaporto
@Peagaporto 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure there's tons of johnson replicas going around
@dj1NM3
@dj1NM3 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder how it would affect the action cycling, if the barrel handguard was being rested on something?
@twunt2000
@twunt2000 3 жыл бұрын
Not in a positive way, I'm guessing.
@WALTERBROADDUS
@WALTERBROADDUS 3 жыл бұрын
simple, it'll fail to operate correctly. Resting up the forearm on anything will screw up the recoil.
@Vagabond671
@Vagabond671 3 жыл бұрын
Alright, which one of you rifles got my M1 pregnant?
@ScottKenny1978
@ScottKenny1978 3 жыл бұрын
😆😆😆
@fluffywolfo3663
@fluffywolfo3663 3 жыл бұрын
I will never be able to unsee that.
@jonahc2807
@jonahc2807 3 жыл бұрын
You know he's serious when he has the gloves on
@leonidasi6170
@leonidasi6170 3 жыл бұрын
The background is so perfect it looks like a greenscreen
@AluminumStud
@AluminumStud 3 жыл бұрын
The front swivel is a stacking hook, not a sling swivel.
@eizol568
@eizol568 3 жыл бұрын
This is a rifle gentlemen, not a video about your manhood…really gentlemen…
@Ugly_German_Truths
@Ugly_German_Truths 3 жыл бұрын
Blame Full Metal Jacket with the cheeky cadence...
@napluvr4173
@napluvr4173 3 жыл бұрын
Is Ian trolling us into thinking he doesn't know what a stacking swivel is? I refuse to believe, with his extensive firearm knowledge, that he doesn't understand the concept and use of a stacking swivel and that it's not for a sling. this is bothering me way more than it should.
@robviousobviously5757
@robviousobviously5757 3 жыл бұрын
the recoil stroke on the Johnson rifle feels like a brutal Browning A5 in a way... kind of an odd feeling shooting one.
@Peagaporto
@Peagaporto 3 жыл бұрын
So... You're saying the stroke on the johnson feels odd when it shoots?
@immikeurnot
@immikeurnot 3 жыл бұрын
But the Johnson is a short recoil system, while the Auto 5 was long recoil (the new "A5" is Inertia). Similar, but fairly different. The Johnson rifle has more in common with your typical semi-auto pistol than with the Auto 5.
@johnkilcer
@johnkilcer 3 жыл бұрын
Makes you wonder why they didn't go with a folding bayonet
@WALTERBROADDUS
@WALTERBROADDUS 3 жыл бұрын
Hard to sharpen with it fixed to the rifle.
@williamdixon8283
@williamdixon8283 3 жыл бұрын
The front most swivel looks more like the stacking swivel of a Lee-Enfield.
@sonatadusk3304
@sonatadusk3304 3 жыл бұрын
It is a stacking swivel. 1903s and M1s have the same setup.
@brentwalters8921
@brentwalters8921 3 жыл бұрын
Not the first time he's called a stacking swivel a sling swivel. It's a pretty common mistake really.
@brentwalters8921
@brentwalters8921 3 жыл бұрын
@@brucebelvin2058 Yes, and I've seen the swivels reversed on a number of guns, one of my SMLEs was flipped around when I got it.
@laurisikio
@laurisikio 3 жыл бұрын
Ian releases a new video once a day which is very impressive, but if every other video included shooting I would accept videos once in three days. Qulaity over quantity.
@Thaddeus2007
@Thaddeus2007 3 жыл бұрын
Indeed.
@davidgillon2762
@davidgillon2762 3 жыл бұрын
I'd rather have the disassembly than the shooting, that's my kind of quality. And for a lot of the weapons we see on Forgotten Weapons shooting isn't going to be possible. Either because the ammunition isn't easily available, or because there's no way the owner is going to allow it (especially true for the museum owned guns), or because no one with an ounce of sense would consider shooting it (cf many of the Chinese warlord guns).
@cullenpinney2997
@cullenpinney2997 3 жыл бұрын
Why are there comments from weeks and months ago if this just posted? do some people get early access or something?
@waffel7664
@waffel7664 3 жыл бұрын
cuz they have early access to the video via patreon
@enclave9614
@enclave9614 3 жыл бұрын
im thinking they got early access thru patreon and it was unlisted
@georgekoribanic2524
@georgekoribanic2524 3 жыл бұрын
I was literally wondering that just now lol
@ScottKenny1978
@ScottKenny1978 3 жыл бұрын
Patreon supporters get early access
@Franky46Boy
@Franky46Boy 7 ай бұрын
Dutch Royal Marines marching in 1955 with Johnson rifles! ( Among others at 0:45 but also seen during exercises in this movie ) kzbin.info/www/bejne/pHjJhnp-dtllbaM
@HugoEckener127
@HugoEckener127 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine fixing your bayonet, but not fixing it completely, and the next time you fire you hit the target with both a bullet and a flying bayonet
@Metikoi
@Metikoi 3 жыл бұрын
I'm all sad the empire didn't get the johnson in ww2 now, woulda made the post-war "everyone in the commonwealth has a surplused .303" interestingly variable.
@Franky46Boy
@Franky46Boy Жыл бұрын
The Dutch Marine Corps used them until the 1950s in the Netherlands beside the M1 Garand.
@JesusvonNazaret
@JesusvonNazaret 3 жыл бұрын
was this the same Taft-Peirce company that made precision tools like sine plates and surface grinders?
@dksdg
@dksdg 3 жыл бұрын
Taft Pierce is a well respected toolmaker in machining tools/gauges etc.
@swis9365
@swis9365 3 жыл бұрын
why are some of the comments from 3 weeks ago? like it was posted 2 minutes ago?
@axilleastsoulas1036
@axilleastsoulas1036 3 жыл бұрын
Early release On patreon i believe
@TheHacknor
@TheHacknor 3 жыл бұрын
Patreon supporters get to see the vids in advance
@user-up3yk9zv6g
@user-up3yk9zv6g 3 жыл бұрын
Cloudy with a chance of.... Nazis!!!😂😂😂
@KOTYAR0
@KOTYAR0 3 жыл бұрын
"You clicked on this video to see this fancy heatguard" Ian don't seem to notice or care, what most ppl watching would watch Ian make reviews of literally anything.
@kolideoskope
@kolideoskope 3 жыл бұрын
The added weight of a handguard might actually help maintain reliable operation when attaching the bayonet, since the weight of the blade would have a smaller relative impact on the overall reciprocating mass.
@steeltalon2356
@steeltalon2356 3 жыл бұрын
He knows it's a stacking swivel, people. He just misspoke, stop posting about it.
@ragingjaguarknight86
@ragingjaguarknight86 3 жыл бұрын
This Johnson is nothing compared to the biggest Johnson, LBJ. o_O
@markmulder9845
@markmulder9845 3 жыл бұрын
I looked into some history of this gun. Turns out it did surprisingly well in the field and marines in the pacific had overwhelmingly positive things to say about. The marines actually tried to adopt it, but the Army Ordinance Dept. snubbed it for the M-1 Garand that they already had invested into heavily.
@Oldhogleg
@Oldhogleg 3 жыл бұрын
That's a stacking swivel up front
@Sarin-Q
@Sarin-Q 3 жыл бұрын
A Honda owner's favourite rifle. 4:18
@ahmedibnsanun3504
@ahmedibnsanun3504 3 жыл бұрын
I found one of these in a gun store, at the time was worth 12,000 I believe
@geronimo5537
@geronimo5537 3 жыл бұрын
The true weapon that was suppose to win ww2 for America.
@KMcKaig72
@KMcKaig72 3 жыл бұрын
Taft-Peirce was a sewing machine company that later switched to making measuring tools and gauges. We still have some magnetic right-angle plates made by them where I work.
@atlas4733
@atlas4733 3 жыл бұрын
Who's coming here from hotdogs horseshoes and hand grenades?
@ahall1459
@ahall1459 3 жыл бұрын
The front swivel is for piling arms in a tripod arrangement...doesn't make it any better because who would pile a self loader unless it's some reserve unit?...non front line..
@StrimClocks
@StrimClocks 3 жыл бұрын
I'd love to have a Johnson rifle. That would be awesome.
@ILikeToLaughAtYou
@ILikeToLaughAtYou 3 жыл бұрын
8:46 That’s a stacking swivel…
@robertjensen1438
@robertjensen1438 3 жыл бұрын
Just a comment for the algorithm
@thelastjohnwayne
@thelastjohnwayne 3 жыл бұрын
We are all here to watch Ian talk about a Johnson.
@shaestinson3086
@shaestinson3086 3 жыл бұрын
I just woke up and I am excited to see this have a good day ian
@AlaskaMan010
@AlaskaMan010 3 жыл бұрын
Saaammee lol
@shaestinson3086
@shaestinson3086 3 жыл бұрын
@@AlaskaMan010 hope u had a good sleep
@DDan1967
@DDan1967 3 жыл бұрын
That front swivel is for "Stacking" rifles. I.E. stood in a T-pee. It allows you to hook a few together as the base.
@timothyboles6457
@timothyboles6457 3 жыл бұрын
"If you're in the Cody area.." the problem with Cody is it's not near anything
@danliberty734
@danliberty734 3 жыл бұрын
Was there a commercial variant produced without the bayonet lug and foregrip?
@tzet49
@tzet49 3 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure the front swivel is a stacking swivel
@HydroPlush
@HydroPlush 3 жыл бұрын
I literally just saw someone shooting one of these at a range in NC two weeks ago. Very interesting piece of machinery
@TheArklyte
@TheArklyte 3 жыл бұрын
I don't get the stock and pseudo grip on this and Garand. This is happening AFTER all the attempt and failures on duality(LMG vs Automatic Rifle) of BAR. Wouldn't people adopt grip and stock reminiscent of that arrangement as we can see on something like Monitor?
@calvingreene90
@calvingreene90 3 жыл бұрын
There was already a good magazine for 303 British available but he didn't use the BAR magazine either.
@jimmyrustler8983
@jimmyrustler8983 3 жыл бұрын
"Prototype Johnson" would make a good name for a Jazz Fusion band.
@stefanmolnapor910
@stefanmolnapor910 3 жыл бұрын
Laytex gloves and a Johnson.... I like where this is going!
@heikkiremes5661
@heikkiremes5661 3 жыл бұрын
Johnson later started making outboard engines. Now Evinrude.
@-ZETA-
@-ZETA- 3 жыл бұрын
So what happens when you, without thinking in the moment, have your hand gripping the barrel-mounted handguard, and fire the rifle?
@isaiahcampbell488
@isaiahcampbell488 3 жыл бұрын
It would probably feel a lot like hitting a metal pole with a hammer.
@chiphailstone589
@chiphailstone589 3 жыл бұрын
Wood guards on a barrel will keep you from getting burned.............as well as not freezing the metal to your hand in cold. Works both ways.
@charlesnewby3449
@charlesnewby3449 3 жыл бұрын
Too bad the cronies in Washington were so fixated on .30-06. A Johnson in .276 Peterson would’ve probably had 15-20 rnd magazines.
@ivo215
@ivo215 3 жыл бұрын
Wait, the Netherlands adopted the Johnson? I never knew that. That would mean, either in 6.5 x 53.5 rimmed (the then current cartridge in use), or a whole new cartridge for the Netherlands. Of course, any adoption in the spring of 1940 would be brief, because on may 10th those forecast nazi's invaded. The Netherlands fought with their M95 1895 Mannlichers. OK, I just looked it up. The Netherlands ordered 70.000 Johnsons for their colonial east-Indies troops, as they feared a Japanese invasion. By the time the Japanese invaded the production of the Johnson rifles was under way, but no where near finished. The US air force then took over the order of Dutch Johnsons and used them during the war. Some 30.000 of them were made throughout the war. After the war the rifles were handed over to the Dutch government. And they were in .30"-06, which suggests that the Dutch had ordered them in .30"-06.
@MatthewBaileyBeAfraid
@MatthewBaileyBeAfraid 3 жыл бұрын
I wish that he would have made a regular Semi-Automatic with a BAR magazine (the one with the detachable magazine was mounted to the side). That would likely have been something successful. It would be interesting to see one of these made in .223/5.56 NATO.
@thijsvandervoort8261
@thijsvandervoort8261 3 жыл бұрын
Does it help with the ad revenue if I watch ads? Disabling adblocker is step one of course and pledging on Patreon step three, but does it benefit the channel if we let ads play out all the way? Ps great video as always. The Johnson rifle is very cool
@attila_the_fun
@attila_the_fun 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think so. I'm pretty sure I remember Ian saying that he's proactively de-monotised the channel. So all the add revenue goes to KZbin.
@thijsvandervoort8261
@thijsvandervoort8261 3 жыл бұрын
@@attila_the_fun this exactly why I asked it, despite it being super rude to ask anyone about their paycheck, because many of us in his audience think to know something, but no one is really sure.
@DanielNYR
@DanielNYR 3 жыл бұрын
Hello everyone. I'm new here. I live in Phoenix Arizona and I'm looking to fire some guns, specifically world war 2 era guns such as the Browning M19, MG42, M1 Garand etc. My first question is... do I come off as a total clown when I ask this? I am not a veteran, I have never fired a rifle. My grandfather is a WWII veteran of the Pacific who survived the war and went on to become a detective in Suffolk County NY. I grew up on his influence, as well as a ton of WWII films and video games. Do they allow me to fire weapons like this at a rental fee? If so, where? I can drive anywhere in the western states. I have found a local place who offers 25 rounds of the M19 for a few hundred dollars (as well as 25 rounds M4 and Ak which I honestly am not interested in)... I'd like to fire for more than a couple of seconds if I'm going to fire that weapon. I didn't know where else to ask for now, so I thought I'd give this channel, which I've really enjoyed, a shot. Maybe someone around here can help me out!
@samobispo1527
@samobispo1527 3 жыл бұрын
That third swivel is a "stacking swivel" not a sling swivel. You see those on M-1 Garands, and IIRC, M-1903s and M-1917as. It is so 3 rifles could be connected and stand up on their own.
@USARMYvietnamVET1969
@USARMYvietnamVET1969 3 жыл бұрын
When I was a kid my local gun shop had 3 of these in their used gun rack and I told my Dad that they looked brand New..That was at Davis Gun Shop in Falls Church Virginia around 1964 or so...
@nzoththedeepwatcher1616
@nzoththedeepwatcher1616 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like the choice of the Garand over the Johnson is what seperated our timeline from Grand Utica. Imagine if a sheet metal intermediate cartidge Johnson had been in mass production by 1955, ensuring a no compromise defeat of the 4th reich and all nazi/fascist idealogy by strategically drawing out the land war until the late 70s.... Of course, in this timeline that name means nothing. Shame, I miss the Central United Western Anti-facists. I guess entrusting central/south america to the Nostramuz and the Gambinos will do.... I mean no way I'd have an entire continent full of people hidden away in the big cities, huh? I mean, if I did, that would make every government from the artic to the antartic on the american continent less-legitimate than this really cool group of people without any corruption or moral failings.... I mean... Keep worrying about politics while the world burns and you give it away. Screw these 'Evergreen' states anyways. You haven't got a chance in hell of asserting control over the surface, oh and by the way that's where you western 'Pine Woods' are going. Sulphur baths and heavy metal. Enjoy. to the rest of you, get ready to meet your heroes
@99Racker
@99Racker 3 жыл бұрын
The swivel near the bayonet lug is a STACKING SWIVEL not a sling swivel. The split is a clue that it is meant to form a triangle with two(+) other rifles. This an interesting model. Thanks for the video.
@hendriktonisson2915
@hendriktonisson2915 3 жыл бұрын
The story of Melvin Johnson and his rifles and light machine guns is very cool and interesting.
@danieliussupienis9703
@danieliussupienis9703 3 жыл бұрын
When the whole comment section goes WILD with their Johnsons.🤣🤣🤣 Lol'ed real hard, then died.
@schmechel6888
@schmechel6888 3 жыл бұрын
I'm actually concerned about how long this johnson is.... lol. seriously though, is that just perspective or does this look abnormally large? i suppose the dutch are quite tall folk, the same thing with the South African Galil's having a completely average (but waaay too small for the boer's) length of pull, if I'm not mistaken they sent them back for longer ones lol
@jtilton5
@jtilton5 3 жыл бұрын
This may sound dumb, but why didn't the US millitary adopt this gun with a scope as a DMR? The angled loading gate for the magazine would accomadate a scope better than trying to invent an offset scope for the M1.
@Whitpusmc
@Whitpusmc Жыл бұрын
This rifle is what the US Paratroops should have been provided with. Why did they jump with three weapons that couldn’t use the same magazines or loaders or cartridges? The M1 Garand, the M1 Carbine and the Thompson? Equip at least two of them with the Johnson and then everyone uses the same cartridge and the same loader and the loader is less weight per cartridge.
@DaremoKamen
@DaremoKamen 3 жыл бұрын
Why didn't Johnson go with a folding bayonet? Also could he have stolen, I mean borrowed, I mean based a box magazine on that of the ZB 26?
@joshuabessire9169
@joshuabessire9169 3 жыл бұрын
If they left it unshrouded, instead of using a lightweight bayonet, they could have burned them with the barrel. Way more metal. Also, that Johnson's not kosher. It needs a moyle(I'm sure I spelled that wrong, and I had to throw that out there. I'm a middle aged 12 year old like the rest of you!).
@sumdood6784
@sumdood6784 3 жыл бұрын
The swivel attached to the barrel isn't a sling swivel, it's a stacking swivel. It has the split in it so that you can connect multiple rifles together via their stacking swivel so that you can stand them up together in a teepee.
@Andefir
@Andefir 3 жыл бұрын
I just used this for the first time in battlefield 5 today and then I see this video. What are the odds?
@jandevuilnisman2485
@jandevuilnisman2485 3 жыл бұрын
I litterally just a this rifle yesterday in the marine museum in the netherlands and i had no idea what is was. Great timing lol
@dr.threatening8622
@dr.threatening8622 3 жыл бұрын
Ian Ian Ian, you know that "forward sling swivel" is actually a stacking swivel. I only know these kinds of things because of your channel.
@__chevytrucks__
@__chevytrucks__ 3 жыл бұрын
Why have a rifle about compensation of your junk, when you can have a rifle that sounds nicer? …ping.
@uprebel5150
@uprebel5150 2 жыл бұрын
Isn’t the swivel toward the muzzle a “stacking swivel”?
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