Proving Bot Skill Tweaker Mutator is Broken - Ravenfield

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Nolberggg

Nolberggg

Күн бұрын

*I will update this video if anything changes*
Hey everyone, one of my favorite Ravenfield mutators was the Bot Skill Tweaker, but as of late, I, as well as many others have noticed the mutator wasn't having much impact. I decided to find out for myself if this mutator improved bots... and unfortunately came to the conclusion that the mutator doesn't work.
This video goes over bot skill level, the mutator itself, and the testing that went into it. I think I added like 20 hours to Ravenfield this past week, and 99% of it was automated haha! I hope you enjoy, and a reminder that this is not a dig at the creator of the mod itself, as they have stated multiple times that it is out of their control.
Anyways, hope you enjoy! I had to remind myself that this is youtube and not a research paper, so I cut out a lot of the process, methods, etc. so if you have any questions feel free to ask.

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@Novice_Hunter
@Novice_Hunter 3 ай бұрын
Unfortunate. Rest in Pepperoni, Bot Skill Tweaker...
@nolberggg
@nolberggg 3 ай бұрын
Pour one out for a real one😔 I’d imagine a fix will be possible, but who knows when
@DeGameBox_SRBT
@DeGameBox_SRBT 3 ай бұрын
I am currently testing this mutator myself and I agree with the author: "beginner" is too broken. It can defeat everyone, but under some conditions it may be worse than "normal", but otherwise the mutator works as it should. it would be nice if you conduct another test, but on a more complex map with vehicles (for example, tank pit 2)
@nolberggg
@nolberggg 3 ай бұрын
Originally, I aimed to test all combinations, but after failing to get visible results I shifted focus to just see if accuracy and reaction time improved. I do regret not checking if "beginner" mode was causing issues, though simply watching “elite” bots fight kinda confirmed my bias. My findings are based on the assumption that if one part of the mutator isn’t working, then whole thing must not work. Trying vehicles next would be logical, but I'm a bit burnt out on the topic right now since testing was so time consuming. It’s great to see other people are also testing this, so let me know if you figure out anything else!
@DeGameBox_SRBT
@DeGameBox_SRBT 3 ай бұрын
​​@@nolberggg I'm also glad to see that someone else is disassembling ravenfield in this way. surprisingly, the skills work as in reality here: the lower the skills, the less skillfully the bots control vehicles and the less the technical gap matters. I will never forget the single battle: normal has heavy tanks and airplanes, and elite has machine-gun tanks that can't even fight other tanks, but it turned out that machine-gun tanks using difficult hilly terrain broke into the enemy lines, destroyed infantry, and then the elite infantry finished off the heavy tanks. as a result, 30% of the elite and 0% of the normal survived, and if there were at least veteran vs veteran or other map, then 50% of the army where there are heavy tanks and 0% of mg-tanks army already survives
@SOPPI_srn
@SOPPI_srn 2 ай бұрын
For vanilla game, elite is the hidden level that only appears on the players teammate in specops mode. I guess the mutator was broken due to steelraven updated the behaviour of bots at certain skill levels. The bot behaviour can actually be changed by changing dll of the game, however all mutators that changes bot behaviour cannot change anything in it
@sum1youh841
@sum1youh841 2 ай бұрын
This is a very well made documentary. I hope this ropes in more people to ravenfield as well as inform many on how the core mechanics of the game works
@nolberggg
@nolberggg 2 ай бұрын
Thanks :) I hope so too, its a small game on the surface but the mods make the game great
@DeGameBox_SRBT
@DeGameBox_SRBT 2 ай бұрын
surprisingly, the skills work as in reality here: the lower the skills, the less skillfully the bots control vehicles and the less the technical gap matters. I will never forget the single battle: normal has heavy tanks and airplanes, and elite has machine-gun tanks that can't even fight other tanks, but it turned out that machine-gun tanks using difficult hilly terrain broke into the enemy lines, destroyed infantry, and then the elite infantry finished off the heavy tanks. as a result, 30% of the elite and 0% of the normal survived, and if there were at least veteran vs veteran or other map, then 50% of the army where there are heavy tanks and 0% of mg-tanks army already survives
@svijj_
@svijj_ 3 ай бұрын
You're one of the few Ravenfield creators that make actually high quality videos. Keep up the good work! Btw, what's the map at 0:18?
@nolberggg
@nolberggg 3 ай бұрын
Means a lot, thanks! :) Map is "Facility 16" steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2992753650
@mohamejd
@mohamejd 2 ай бұрын
hl2 and ranvenfield enjoyer??? Fabolous
@HH-pm6mj
@HH-pm6mj 2 ай бұрын
I used to remember this mod working it was fun to play in. Unfortunately it seems after a certain update of the game it doesn’t work anymore. Further more I also found the game’s difficulty setting to not be making much of a difference as well. I hope it gets fixed soon
@ryanmaad853
@ryanmaad853 2 ай бұрын
best creator on youtube drops another absolute banger
@nolberggg
@nolberggg 2 ай бұрын
❤️
@vinayaksingh524
@vinayaksingh524 3 ай бұрын
Dude you're making amazing content rooting for you rn
@nolberggg
@nolberggg 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the support, it motivates me to make better content!
@phj9894
@phj9894 3 күн бұрын
It simply changes the bot's skill level variable within the actor component. How exactly do these skill level variables work is a total mystery because steelraven7 never explained about that, it's nice to see that you actually experimented this.
@nshnishi
@nshnishi 3 ай бұрын
Loved your content. Keep up!
@nolberggg
@nolberggg 3 ай бұрын
Appreciate it!
@andywu4177
@andywu4177 2 ай бұрын
this is some really good content, i was genuinely surprised by your sub count. looking forward to the next videos
@nolberggg
@nolberggg 2 ай бұрын
Thanks I appreciate it!
@benjamin0194
@benjamin0194 2 ай бұрын
doing Spec Ops on Elite with Beginner Raven has got to be the worst nightmare when they have a full chance of putting metal into my cranium, never turned on the mutator since then, hope they add some sort of API or stuff that lets you tweak the thing with scripts or just vanilla
@BoxLoder
@BoxLoder 2 ай бұрын
Both hidden gems, the game snd this content creator.
@nolberggg
@nolberggg 2 ай бұрын
Kind words, thank you!
@MedicGaming1st
@MedicGaming1st 3 ай бұрын
This is a pretty good video for a small channel Really nice
@nolberggg
@nolberggg 3 ай бұрын
Thanks, glad you enjoyed!
@MedicGaming1st
@MedicGaming1st 3 ай бұрын
Didn't think you would reply but, thanks
@Wolffe104th_
@Wolffe104th_ 3 ай бұрын
I caught this upload so early 🙌
@nolberggg
@nolberggg 3 ай бұрын
Wow that was fast😂
@ThatWarThunderGuyShorts
@ThatWarThunderGuyShorts 3 ай бұрын
Bro you are a serous underrated KZbinr!
@nolberggg
@nolberggg 2 ай бұрын
Thanks so much!
@SteelRaven7
@SteelRaven7 27 күн бұрын
I'm pretty sure I broke something with the skill levels at some point. Gonna have to look into this 😅😅😅 Thanks for the analysis! 😊
@nolberggg
@nolberggg 25 күн бұрын
Woah, thanks! Can’t believe you saw this. A quick fix for this would be amazing, but I can imagine you’ve got a thousand other things going on. Glad you liked the video!
@agentmillitaire4655
@agentmillitaire4655 3 ай бұрын
Bro this is incredible !
@pampa1885
@pampa1885 2 ай бұрын
this channel is going places
@Crazedgunman0
@Crazedgunman0 Ай бұрын
theres a new mutator which is kinda lke this but improved, called bot skill tweaker improved
@KekekkeKekkeke
@KekekkeKekkeke 2 ай бұрын
finally a new ravenfield youtuber!!!!
@BALI409
@BALI409 2 ай бұрын
Maybe the right-hand peek advantage is what's making the beginner bots win
@blaze6254
@blaze6254 3 ай бұрын
LOVE THESE RAVENFIELD VIDEOSS
@nolberggg
@nolberggg 3 ай бұрын
Haha glad you enjoyed!!
@rjspeeder
@rjspeeder 3 ай бұрын
use the sofa mod pls (Deployable Command Center) lad
@Bettermadness_YT
@Bettermadness_YT 3 ай бұрын
I think you deserve more subs.
@nolberggg
@nolberggg 3 ай бұрын
Haha me too ;)
@Bhavarsch_YT_OFFICIAL
@Bhavarsch_YT_OFFICIAL 3 ай бұрын
what's the name of that ak12 gun mod in 1:39
@nolberggg
@nolberggg 3 ай бұрын
99% sure it comes from "【SQUAD】AK-12": steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3169820332
@Gwslah2
@Gwslah2 3 ай бұрын
This video needs more views
@nolberggg
@nolberggg 3 ай бұрын
haha thanks, im still fairly new so cant complain with any amount i get!
@Bhavarsch_YT_OFFICIAL
@Bhavarsch_YT_OFFICIAL 3 ай бұрын
what's the CIA skin and gang member skin in 0:32?? thank you
@nolberggg
@nolberggg 3 ай бұрын
"CIA Agent S-B-9" from: steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2959389121 and "CDS Radioman" from: steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3276757706
@Bhavarsch_YT_OFFICIAL
@Bhavarsch_YT_OFFICIAL 3 ай бұрын
@@nolberggg thank you g :)
@4rqade947
@4rqade947 3 ай бұрын
bro should be more popular with this quality of editing
@nolberggg
@nolberggg 2 ай бұрын
Editing definitely took a bit of time, so I'm glad you liked it!
@standly5477
@standly5477 3 ай бұрын
Bro, I'm currently editing the game dll for a plugin project that I'm developing and I gotta tell you, the game is fr broken. (I know how the ai work)
@nolberggg
@nolberggg 2 ай бұрын
Wow that's pretty impressive, thanks for the info! Could you possibly elaborate a little? I'm very curious on what issues bots currently have
@standly5477
@standly5477 2 ай бұрын
@@nolberggg Btw the way your test is wrong because the difficulty actually influences the skill level scaling, having it on easy essentially makes all the bots have the lowest target registration rate. so the lower you push the difficulty, the poorer the bot performs on all ranges, my advice, turn the difficulty to hard, you will see a clear difference in a match level. this also affects how bots use movements such as lean when going around corners. the skill level also affects the rate of bots getting into cover.
@nolberggg
@nolberggg 2 ай бұрын
@@standly5477 Very interesting stuff. I was curious how difficulty settings interplayed with skill level. I'll definitely have to retry some tests. Really appreciate the information!
@moscowttuber253
@moscowttuber253 2 ай бұрын
i really want bots will aim properly on enemies some times they miss ther shots .using ther anti air weapons and turrets
@greenrifleman2969
@greenrifleman2969 2 ай бұрын
5:28 what map is that?
@nolberggg
@nolberggg 2 ай бұрын
The map is [CQB]Factory Remastered: steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3264463008
@blaze6254
@blaze6254 Ай бұрын
spicy
@ScoutGaming0
@ScoutGaming0 2 ай бұрын
What about the TACTICAL SQUAD ORDERS
@nolberggg
@nolberggg 2 ай бұрын
If it’s operational? I’m not personally familiar with using this mutator but I see some people are having issues. Do you have any insight I can look in to?
@Varium1
@Varium1 Ай бұрын
What is the name of the first map you play in the backround
@nolberggg
@nolberggg Ай бұрын
The very first clip is Solomons Boneyard: steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1898959269 If you meant with gameplay its Facility-16: steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2992753650
@zyocnarfxd5245
@zyocnarfxd5245 3 ай бұрын
What's the M4 mod called at 0:17?
@nolberggg
@nolberggg 3 ай бұрын
"Custom M4A1" steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2848792255 Really cool mod. Lets you customize the weapon in-game
@copefish
@copefish 3 ай бұрын
have you tried testing it out on hard? I have solid evidence to prove this mutator works on hard settings
@nolberggg
@nolberggg 2 ай бұрын
Admittedly I did not since testing eats up so much time and I saw nothing significant from normal or easy. I definitely plan on continuing to test this mutator, so thanks for the insight!
@Aleeziate
@Aleeziate 7 сағат бұрын
Map name on 5:35?
@minkomaniac4684
@minkomaniac4684 Ай бұрын
First map name? Thanks.
@nolberggg
@nolberggg Ай бұрын
The very first clip is Solomons Boneyard: steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1898959269 If you meant with gameplay its Facility-16: steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2992753650
@MD_Uzi02
@MD_Uzi02 2 ай бұрын
What are the maps you used?
@nolberggg
@nolberggg 2 ай бұрын
Facility 16: steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2992753650 vanilla Citadel map: (no mod needed) [CQB]Factory Remastered: steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3264463008
@MD_Uzi02
@MD_Uzi02 2 ай бұрын
@@nolberggg Thank you.
@RraltKing
@RraltKing 3 ай бұрын
it does works
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