PRR Cabride Columbus to Cincinnati and Return

[@robertleclare3896]

I can’t believe I just found these absolute treasures now.. Stunning. Well done 👍

[@pennsy6000]

I absolutely love this video! It's nice to see older passenger trains, the Pennsylvania route between Xenia (Loveland Trail) and Cincinnati, and Cincinnati Union Terminal and it's full former glory.

[@jeffbrown3963]

Super cool video. We rode into Cincinnati from Dayton several times. I thought the Cincinnati terminal was spectacular! Thanks for the memories!

[@AllanLoveJr]

It really breaks my heart to see all this is all but gone.

[@swbfuf]

(most of it)

[@RailroadMediaArchive]

Since a couple people have asked, this is the "full" video. I made no edits. In 1960 whenever this was taken there was no way to record from start to finish. 50' reels of 8mm film only lasted three and a half minutes, so the photographer (Roger Rector) had to pick and choose what he took, not to mention the time it took to reload the camera. If that is a deal-breaker for your enjoyment of this video there's plenty of other entertainment options, or you could get to work building a time machine that you could maybe take a modern HD camera along with you. Thank you.

[@Lunatick666]

There was literally one guy asking if there was a full video. I read all the comments. Nobody else asked for more or unedited footage. Chill out dude. Everybody loved this video. No need to sound so triggered. Its all good.

[@ethancundiff6422]

@Giant Werewolf Films @Railroad Media Archive --- I was the one who asked, simply because I am young (born in 21st Century) and would have no reason to know how that works. And I was corrected. The short clips aren't a "dealbreaker for enjoyment" nor was I "flaunting ignorance" I just didn't know because I am a teenager. Because of this knew knowledge I respect the video and videographer even more! This video is absolutely incredible and I treasure it, I can't thank @Railroad Media archive enough for the upload. 👍👍

[@royburnham100]

It's great to see this. I've ridden the whole distance between Columbus and Cincy on my bike and often wondered if video's like this existed. I'm also thankful that most of the right of way is preserved as part of the longest rail-trail in the country, the Ohio to Erie.

[@slorznovitch]

Great footage! So happy that there was a camera and plenty of film for this.

[@mikegennett5294]

Love this video. I have been on the bike trail many times which was once the PA rr. Many familiar sites. Thank you! Last train was in 1974. Tracks are gone. Now a paved bike trail. You can see some old remnants including signals, telegraph poles, Milford station, Morrow station, the ammo factory, etc.

[@GTW216]

Yes ive been on it too from morrow to origonia rd I imagined this train hail I was on the trail this rail line rain right behind my cabin and down a hill when I was at 6th grade camp huge rip imagine the view from my cabin of a train down in the valley

[@JeffreyJakucyk]

Here's an expanded list of waypoints: 0:00 - London 2:20 - Corwin 2:49 - Corwin Road near Middletown Road 3:36 - Wilmington Road 4:00 - I-71 Jeremiah Morrow Bridge 5:30 - Morrow 6:43 - Stubbs Mills Road 6:50 - Grandin Road & Peters Cartridge Company 7:00 - Fosters & US-22 7:30 - Loveland 7:40 - Redbank Junction & Wooster Road 7:55 - Columbia Parkway 8:00 - Erie Avenue 8:15 - Oakley Junction near I-71 & Ridge Avenue 8:22 - East Norwood Junction 8:55 - Ivorydale Junction 9:10 - RH Tower 9:25 - Hopple Street Viaduct 9:40 - C&O of Indiana Trestle (with train on it) 10:20 - Cincinnati Union Terminal 14:30 - East Norwood 14:39 - Norwood Harris Avenue Station 15:08 - Redbank Junction & Wooster Road 15:20 - Clare Tower & Yard 15:30 - Morrow 16:17 - Miami Crossing (west side of Columbus) 16:28 - B&O Crossing 16:46 - Scioto Tower 17:09 - Crossing Scioto River on the approach to Columbus Union Station

[@asdasx392]

My guesses... 0:44 is Chillicothe Pike Crossing east of Cedarville. I am guessing 1:44 is Route 32 east of Xenia. But what is the railroad overpass at 1:06?

[@erickellogg8532]

I've seen the scioto yard

[@davidhonerlaw3108]

I have ridden the bike trail from Newtown to London and imagined myself in a train many times. Thanks for making my dream come.

[@tommythomason6187]

THIS IS GOLD! Love the locomotive cab views into Cincy Union Terminal and the C&O, New York Central engines in, and around the terminal.

[@JawTooth]

6:56 Peter Cartridge Company! I remember a bunch of these sites! I use to watch trains on this line. Today it is a bike trail that I have ridden

[@jeffreymcfadden9403]

hey jaw tooth, i have many comments about this line. I never thought anywhere out there in video land, that I would EVER see a video of this line that I have so many memories of. i have also rode this line on bike, though i am getting a bit too old and too fat to ride much more. see my peters comment!

[@blackwatchaudio5630]

Great footage, thank you. I love seeing the C&O E8s and their streamlined cars at CUT. Great capture of an era I unfortunately never knew.

[@mackenziezimmerer7926]

Can't thank you enough. Until today, all I could do is imagine the actual railroad workings of this line as I was born too late. Someone build a time machine...please!!!

[@franciscampagna2711]

Thank you for this fantastic video. I remember going to the old NYC stations to pick up relatives. Never rode one of the pre-Amtrak trains. Videos like this should be in the Smithsonian, or other museums. We will never see things like this again.

[@baritonebynight]

Too bad because Columbus Ohio could use passenger rail.

[@toddcampbell5603]

Especially when you see the number of extinct sidings that exist for all of the industry that has been exported. Speaking of extinct ... how about all of telephone poles, wire and insulators along the right of way? You're absolutely right ... never to be seen again!

[@Tom-xe9iq]

There is something hypnotic about watching this video from the engineer's pov! I have watched this about half dozen times and still find something neat from a time before PC.

[@michaeldickson9876]

Nice to see all the old Cab units, F and E EMD units

[@robertevans5587]

Just a great video! I used to watch trains at the Hopple St overpass. When I'm there now visiting family it's still a great place to see Queensgate. Cincy Union Terminal was also a favorite to go. Thanks for posting.

[@newjerseyray]

pretty cool, also enjoyed seeing all the old vehicles along the way as well. thanks.

[@jefftoft5568]

Wow! I grew up in Cincinnati really enjoyed the look at the area from back in those days. Thanks!

[@jeffreymcfadden9403]

this footage was shot after the 1966 renumbering and before the 1968 merger. since this is not winter time, most certainly,,,,,, 1967. since all the engines seem to be re numbered.

[@bemseer]

Thanks so much for sharing this enjoyable video. Relaxing to sit back and take a cab ride. Some great shots.

[@atsf93]

This a truly amazing video! Thanks so much for sharing!

[@jmecklenborg]

The train climbing the west side C&O viaduct at 9:45 is almost certainly hauling uranium ore to Fernald. The uranium was mined in Africa and then refined just outside Cincinnati. Most of the circa-1967 warheads are probably all still sitting atop missiles in silos.

[@cruisevideo1]

Thank you so much for posting this!! The Peters Cartridge plant is amazing. Also the footage of Union Terminal is great!

[@thomasabramson100]

that tower in Union Terminal is still open to the public I think and the board is still there

[@mikeklaene4359]

My very first train ride was as a cub scout from C.U.T. to Erlanger, KY in '56 or 57. This was all of 15 track miles - or so. We did get a tour of the tower. Nifty stuff for a tech orientated kid. My last 8 years of working in IT was with SEPTA in Philly . Still love trains!

[@thomasabramson100]

Such memories I rode the Pennsylvania RR train from the OLD NY Penn Station to Cincinnati and when that stopped rode the NY Central to Cincinnati That stopped about 1969-1970 then no trains directly

[@geoffreylee5199]

Great bridge at 4:00 . Fifteen years later, that line would be humming if the Rail Act was earlier. Look at all the Mail Trains. Did day-trips when in university, going on runs like this.

[@clineshaunt]

Wow really cool footage. Most of the beginning shots, London to the bridge is all bike path now.

[@StephenCarlBaldwin]

Incredible time machine experience illustrating, among other splendid things, the lost majesty of CUT

[@JP-dj2ro]

Awesome.wish we still lived in that time era

[@davidvanschaick5565]

These older rail vids are excellent

[@jeffreymcfadden9403]

the video cut just before showing the tower at loveland. in 1983, the tower was still standing but in near falling down condition. it was dozed soon thereafter, long after the PRR was torn up.

[@dennis-ul5ht]

We went to see the refurbished CUT last month...really amazing...between the ninety-minute-tour and the view of the yard from the interlocking tower one could get a real sense of the history of the structure...

[@glencourtright8037]

1:43 is most likely the Jasper Rd crossing on the east side of Xenia. 2:14 is Spring Valley. 2:49 is the Burlington Rd Crossing south of Spring Valley.

[@markblomer5867]

Looks like mid-late '60s-I-71 Jeremiah Morrow bridge built, numerous mid '60s vehicles around Morrow station. A lot of changes in the past 50 years.

[@ThePurpleAndRed]

0:46 appears to be the Chillicothe Pike crossing west of South Charleston

[@JawTooth]

Wow, those were the good ole days!

[@GTW216]

Hi JT me again lol I've been on the bike trail between morrow and origonia there is 9ld milepost along it and another surprise down the tracks at the 350 crossing on origonia down towards the canoe place head down that way about 1/2 a mile

[@ebt12]

Cool video. Thank you for the list of locations by time stamp. I like to use Google maps and streetview to see how the locations look like today.

[@JawTooth]

Morrow at 15:45. I remember that!!

[@jeffreymcfadden9403]

I also remember the sweeping curve that the PRR line came into town. Also, i see the Trinway line is still down.

[@Alloy7]

The Trinway line lasted a little longer than the Little Miami. On satellite view, you can still see the 6 remaining trestles on that line, if you follow it out of Morrow.

[@redgts93]

Awesome video, been looking to see this very content for some time now...

[@jeffreymcfadden9403]

at 2:47,,i remember that crossing. because of the jog in the road. a few miles south of corwin. i saw this when the rails were still down, but rusted.

[@GTW216]

@jeffrey mcfadden ho waa long ago was that? Where the tracks severely overgrown?

[@jeffreymcfadden9403]

at 7:23 note the signal relay box elevated. on the little miami many of the sensitive equipment was elevated because the RR had a recurring flood problem.

[@TylersNeighborhoodGarage]

I'm going to guess this is the summer of 1967 based on a '67 Ford F100 seen. Right before PC.

[@sgt2dog]

Awesome video, thanks!

[@herpderp6705]

Very nice! Thanks for uploading. :)

[@joebliss3609]

A real Gem! Pre-" Amtrash".!

[@dumptruckdave423]

Real Good History Here !!!👍

[@ethancundiff6422]

Amazing. Do you have the full video? This is my favorite bike path....so beautiful. Would love to have witnessed a train on the line though, I'm too young. If I had a time machine the first thing I would do is go back and see a train on this line

[@RailroadMediaArchive]

This is the full video. There are no edits. Back then there was no way to record everything. 50' reels of 8mm film lasted around three and a half minutes.

[@ethancundiff6422]

@@RailroadMediaArchive Thanks, learned something new lol! Anyway this video made my day, thanks for the upload!!

[@timothynoel786]

I'm assuming the train you meet at :35 is train 86-74, the Buckeye. Ran overnight between Chicago - Columbus via Richmond.

[@tommythomason6187]

I'd be curious about what Pennsylvania train this was. A mail train? A named passenger train? Incredible footage and we're lucky to have it. Notice the narrow rights-of-way and mainline track not up to snuff, by today's standards, down in the grass and mud. Nevertheless, they hi-balled that train at a rapid pace and got it where it needed to be safely, didn't they?

[@RailroadMediaArchive]

It was a passenger train. I think the Cincinnati Limited.

[@brucegreer129]

Love the video! The cab ride was on the remnant of the Cincinnati Limited, #77, which was the Columbus to Cincinnati section of #31, The Spirit of St. Louis, from NY Penn Station to St. Louis. By the 1960s, the Cincinnati Limited no longer ran as a through train from NY Penn. The eastbound passenger train (at 0:35) was #86, the Richmond (IN) to Columbus section of the Buckeye, an overnight (mostly mail and express) train, with a coach and sleeper, from Chicago to Cincinnati. Note #86's odd consist ending with a caboose! #86 was probably longer going into Dayton, given the common PRR practice of dropping off and picking up mail and express cars there for the US News & World Report printing plant. One passenger car on #86 was a through sleeper from Chicago. This meet happened early in the morning, between 6:30 and 7:00, between Columbus and Xenia, if both trains were running close to on-time.

[@wabisabi6875]

Wonderful footage, thanks for sharing. Question: early on in the film there seem to be a lot of sand dumps on the rails. Is that what they are? and if so, why were there so many on such a relatively level line?

[@hunterriley9904]

What a ride ! 😎

[@johnpsymqepdfq8492]

Holy cow. What a video!

[@midtnrailfan1785]

Morrow, Ohio at 1545, a piece of Americana. Rails are no longer there, bike and walking trail now.

[@Sam53148]

I can't find the one from Los Angeles to San Bernardino, I watched it about a year ago now it's not around

[@WhiteCamry]

What have we thrown away!?

[@bobpaulino4714]

Those in guberment, with their insider knowledge, all have their fingers in oil and get their contractor kick backs. They go in broke (some even started honest), get tempted and molded, lose integrity, morals, sight of reality, and prioritize their quest for money) and magically aquire millions. Overregulation of the railroads and dumping our taxdollars into the interstate highway system so everyone could 'have their independence' killed what once was a very efficient system. Now families REQUIRE two (or more) vehicles and two (or more) incomes. Progress? The more advanced we become, the further behind we truly are. Homes used to have front porches and everyone I the neighborhood knew one another . Now you cram hundreds of people in apartments or condos and folks don't know their immediate neighbors- or even look at each other-- too busy on their phones and tablets.

[@judpowell1756]

@@bobpaulino4714 pretty cynical outlook......

[@blackwatchaudio5630]

@@judpowell1756 maybe so, but he's right.

[@WesternOhioInterurbanHistory]

@@bobpaulino4714 Exactly. Thata what killed rail travel. Not to mention the airports.

[@benlahrman4149]

So now the easiest way to Enter Major Ohio cities is by Interstates instead of simply walking to the station purchasing a ticket for 1 dollar and saying I would like to go this many miles at this time?

[@jeffreymcfadden9403]

at 6:48 and 6:58 is the peters cartridge "shot tower" from what i was told, they would use gravity, lead was dropped from up there to create shot. in 1983 and with permission i climbed to the top of that tower. got some photos. full of pigeon crap. during WW2 peters had a huge explosion. after being a cartridge company, Victrola used the plant for storing records. the last time anything was in use here was in the 1960s.

[@thamnophisrex5895]

jeffrey mcfadden Was Loveland where the B&O) Chillicothe Line crossed?

[@Alloy7]

Yes, Loveland is where this line crossed the B&O St. Louis main.

[@larry7402]

Columbia Records produced 78 RPM records there until 45 RPM records were invented. My wife's father was in the Plating Department and produced the pressing dies there. Victor Records was not there.

[@shanefields8239]

Thanks for sharing video ...🚂🚂

[@judpowell1756]

back when railroads were interesting and offered variety and nobody noticed the E7 still with maroon paint, gold stripe and full road name at :36.....probably not more than a handful at the time as PRR had gone to black paint and keystone only

[@jeffreymcfadden9403]

my mothers father planted a field in corwin, and mom would count the cars on trains as they went by.

[@RandomnessandFun]

I am not familiar with this line at all, but its awesome to follow along on google earth!

[@jeffreymcfadden9403]

the oldest RR in ohio ran from sprinfield north to lake erie,,became NYC. the 2nd oldest was little miami, connecting in springfield and ran to the ohio river.

[@scottperry6674]

Mad river

[@chrisallen7434]

I wonder if my uncle, John Long was the engineer on the train shown here.

[@jeffreymcfadden9403]

at 15:23, clare, can anyone confirm that the building on far right is the RR , YMCA?

[@thamnophisrex5895]

Wow! Most of this is the old Little Miami Line! Do you have any video or pictures of Xenia?

[@RailroadMediaArchive]

All I can think of that I have is a quick view from the cab of Amtrak #31 of the yard office in Xenia as the train is going by.

[@TexasRailfan2008]

8:24 broken bottom lunar lens on CPL

[@detroit8v715]

Nice if there was sound.

[@MyrtleBeach123]

Look at that signal at 08:22 what is it?

[@benlahrman4149]

So the piggyback train in the first part of the video required 3 SD45 Locomotives, could it have been done with one 2-10-4 Texas steam locomotive?

[@chief2120]

Does anyone have footage of PRR from Pittsburgh to Columbus

[@thomasabramson100]

Anyone else ride from GCT in NY to Winton Place ??

[@drewhuff3457]

Enjoyed the video.What were the name of the towns that the old train depots are in?

[@jameshill1740]

Kings mill and morrow

[@drewhuff3457]

Oh ok. Thanks. I always liked old train depots. Do they still have the depots there?

[@Alloy7]

The depot in Morrow is still there.

[@charlesgault3777]

At around 9:00, is he traveling on B&O rails? I noticed some of the B&O's signals.

[@mrtemet]

East Norwood where the line did indeed come onto the B&O, near McCullough Yard. Signal preceding that was part of the wye. That was the Oakley signal. Not show was the inbetween signal which is Penn, before the East Norwood signal. At 14:30, on the return trip, it shows most of the East Norwood to Penn section, including the old passenger platform at Norwood. Last time I was through there years ago, most of the platform (concrete) was still there.

[@daveyboy_]

What yr was this ? 70's ? When the camera goes to the engineer looks like the engine is an F4 .

[@jordankramer9523]

Do you have anymore footage of the former Pennsylvania between Columbus and Cincinnati or Columbus to Richmond, Indiana

[@RailroadMediaArchive]

If you can find a copy, Clear Block Productions' Panhandle Vol. 5 has this cabride somewhat edited as well as one between Columbus and Effingham on #31 not long before that train's demise. If I find the tape with the transfer, I'll post it, but don't count it just because this collection is several thousand poorly labeled tapes.

[@dennis-ul5ht]

@@RailroadMediaArchive I've been searching for films of the old C A & C between Hudson and Columbus forever...any suggestions???...

[@RailroadMediaArchive]

@@dennis-ul5ht I don't know of any.

[@dennis-ul5ht]

@@RailroadMediaArchive Thanks for replying...

[@sbarncar]

would this video be available for a music video? "Hobo Heaven" . Copyright?

[@RailroadMediaArchive]

As long as credit's given I don't mind.

[@sbarncar]

@@RailroadMediaArchive of course.... thanks.

[@2011traincrazy]

Could anybody post a color movie of E-6 Atlantic #460 pulling a train?

[@samhouston1673]

Man look at that fast freight carrying all of those piggybacks of American Made goods!

[@W4RR3N-AX]

What year was this video originally taken

[@RailroadMediaArchive]

Unknown for certain. 1966 or so.

[@W4RR3N-AX]

@@RailroadMediaArchive Hmmmmm Interesting

[@easyamp123]

Is this the cab of an E8? F7 perhaps?

[@RailroadMediaArchive]

Probably an E8.

[@NS9213]

Is the trackage in this awesome footage still around today? Or has it all been torn up?

[@jeffreymcfadden9403]

virtually all torn up. i am referring to the beginning of video to loveland. the only part still down is the very beginning as it approaches the grain tower at london. past the grain tower the whole line is either segmented(s charleston,london)or torn up.

[@drby0788]

jeffrey mcfadden the track is torn up from London all the way to S Charleston. It is also torn up from Lily Chapel, to London. All that remains of that line is from the NS main at Columbus down to lily chapel. About 7-10 miles.

[@drby0788]

The Camp Chase Railway uses what’s left of the line as pretty much storage. They used to use the elevator at lily chapel, but I haven’t seen them do that in awhile

[@jeffreymcfadden9403]

lilly chapel is ex nyc. not ex prr. as i said it is segmented in london and s charleston. the line from columbus to london is ex prr.

[@drby0788]

jeffrey mcfadden I know it’s ex nyc I rode with camp chase for a couple days and they told me about the line.

[@osrr6422]

Whats that bridge at 4:00? Can anyone name locations with time stamps?

[@johnmaggard8384]

I-71 Bridge.

[@RailroadMediaArchive]

Jeremiah Morrow Bridge that carries I-71. 0:00 - London 2:20 - Corwin 4:00 - Jeremiah Morrow Bridge 5:30 - Morrow 7:30 - Loveland 8:22 - East Norwood 8:55 - Ivorydale Jct. 9:10 - RH tower 9:40 - C&O trestle (with train on it) 15:20 - Clare tower 16:17 - Miami Crossing (west side of Columbus) 16:28 - B&O Crossing 16:46 - Scioto tower 17:09 - crossing Scioto River on the approach to Columbus Union Station

[@Ru_1963]

5:30 Bridge over Little Miami River Morrow, Ohio 6:00 Morrow, Ohio station (still exists and beautifully restored)

[@jeffreymcfadden9403]

I remember the tracks(rusted)in morrow. was there not long before removal,,1975.

[@victoriacyunczyk]

What locomotive was this taken in?

[@RailroadMediaArchive]

Safe to assume an E-8.

[@GTW216]

@@RailroadMediaArchive what number engine? Can you see it in the video?

[@rustyshackleford9115]

WOW!!!!!!!!!

[@jeffreymcfadden9403]

at 9:22,,, that is RH tower?

[@RailroadMediaArchive]

Did you look at the video description?

[@CSXtrackworker]

Should be called the "Mud Line" with all that fouled ballast.

[@b3j8]

LOL. The old PRR Fort Wayne Div main had the same problem. Just got alot worse during PC era!

[@kevinhoward9593]

Most of this route is gone or redirected now, right?

[@RailroadMediaArchive]

Kevin Howard correct.

[@MyrtleBeach123]

Ha look at the old cars 01:29

[@RubbleByte]

Is this line still in service?

[@RailroadMediaArchive]

Very little of what you see is in service.

[@truckerkevthepaidtourist]

1974 last year for revenue traffic. Now for yrs a rail trail path

[@keithlewis9106]

What year is this, looks to be late 50 to 60s

[@RailroadMediaArchive]

Two comments below yours says 1967...I don't know for sure, but 1967 would seem about right.

[@shanan1124]

Tracks looked really bad in some areas.

[@Belleville197]

Is this line abandoned now?

[@RailroadMediaArchive]

Most of it is now a trail.

[@patrickrancourt4782]

WOW

[@TK-ec5bv]

PRR's trackage was looking rough by this point. Mud soaked ties, poor ballasting.

[@stephenheath8465]

no brainer why CR abandoned the Panhandle lines in favor of NYC Big Four lines

[@choirboyfromhell1]

WOW Fucking GOLDEN!!!!!

[@jeffreymcfadden9403]

sad, no video of xenia and greene towers in xenia. at :38,,, a passenger train with a caboose? WOW!

[@RailroadMediaArchive]

It was a mail train.

[@evanj2400]

That EX NYC/PRR line is just dead! So many good memories

[@ChrisSeverin-y1g]

such poor track maintenance

[@fakecumberland]

As lovely is it is, clearly inferior to the parallel NYC.

[@scottperry6674]

You're talking about a time when railroads were going broke. NYC wasnt in any better shape. Had they not merged together they'd of both failed to the same extent. Outcome may have been different.