PRUSA PRO HT90 - The Best Desktop Printer for Engineers

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@BitterCynical
@BitterCynical 17 күн бұрын
I look at this beautiful piece of technology and know with absolute certainty I'm just a caveman with my poorly modded Ender 3.
@jaya6291
@jaya6291 17 күн бұрын
I still use my original ender 3 too from 2019. Parts are cheap and it's easy to fix. I will keep it forever.
@BuzzingGoober
@BuzzingGoober 17 күн бұрын
​@jaya6291 no point. You can get cheap, but big upgrades with the ender 3 v3 se or ke, and several others. Bought an ender 3 ke for $80 on ebay that needed a minor fix.
@helixxharpell
@helixxharpell 17 күн бұрын
Dude... stop!! 😂 I'm an old grognard engineer with 30+ yrs experience and you young dudes with your "mods" make me feel like a hillbilly.. which I am too. 😂😂
@helixxharpell
@helixxharpell 17 күн бұрын
I JUST DROPPED A GRAND this week on a Qidi X Max 3 to keep up my production needs. It arrived June 28th & I still haven't had time to get it even turned on! 😂 Being "old" I experience "kid-like excitement" & anxiety, hoping this machine won't disappoint me. 😂
@daliasprints9798
@daliasprints9798 17 күн бұрын
@@BuzzingGoober The se and ke are made to be less moddable and maintainable. An original e3 with $50-100 of upgrades is a better machine than them. Certainly don't throw out a well tuned original e3 for one of those clunky things.
@BurninGems
@BurninGems 17 күн бұрын
Cool... as in that's the cooling method. Just like those of us that used the old CPAP machines and hoses to force a separate airflow so it wasn't just recirculating hot air in a chamber with a small flow fan forced through some squinty air ducts. I'm glad to see it at the commercial level but not really a prusa invention. Just in case someone else in particular needed to point that out in a negative way, but I see it as a positive step in printer evolutions. Edit: I missed the part about the servo flap. That IS cool and unique, as far as I recall. So I do give them a hats off there also.
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots 17 күн бұрын
I’ve though about doing it but they’ve gone and done it, and in a tiny lightweight package. Actually the method I’ve though about involves a passive flap, with airflow selected based on fan speed
@thejosefprusa
@thejosefprusa 17 күн бұрын
Hi there and thank you sir. There is one more cool detail which isn’t in the video. There is a second flap for the intake. For materials like PLA the intake is switched to the outside - you can print fast without opening the doors of the machine or similar shenanigans ❄️
@BurninGems
@BurninGems 17 күн бұрын
@@thejosefprusa awesome advantage.
@zakariakhamees
@zakariakhamees 17 күн бұрын
Delta printers are definitely back!
@3DPrintingNerd
@3DPrintingNerd 16 күн бұрын
GREAT LOOK at this wonderful machine!
@hightempreviews5137
@hightempreviews5137 6 күн бұрын
Says the VisionMiner shill
@SushrutPhutane
@SushrutPhutane 9 күн бұрын
I have all the Bambu labs but recently bought a MK4 & the machine absolutely fascinates me. Even if it not the best vfm rn, but as an engineer I really love it compared the appliance looking bambu machines. The love & care which they put into making the prusa is definitely felt.
@jackmancrazy
@jackmancrazy 17 күн бұрын
The audience Prusa marketed this toward (businesses) may provide some more financial stability since they are definitely being out-competed in the consumer market at this time
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots 17 күн бұрын
They have never really have made a low margin, mass market printer. Their factory isn’t geared towards producing 100k printers a month so they can’t price a product to sell in those numbers. I think they’ve always focused on selling a higher profit margin product with better QC and support. The market for that has always been more niche and geared toward corporate users than your Crealitys, and Bambus of the world
@bernardtarver
@bernardtarver 17 күн бұрын
Don't kid yourself. Companies buy cheap printers too.
@carlosjosejimenezbermudez9255
@carlosjosejimenezbermudez9255 17 күн бұрын
BambuLab arguably can't be profitable without chinese government subsidies, china is cheaper, but not by much.
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots 17 күн бұрын
@@bernardtarver depends on the company
@NoMercyFtw
@NoMercyFtw 17 күн бұрын
@@bernardtarver yes they do and some of the smart ones don't like to throw away money just cause they're successful
@JSparrowist
@JSparrowist 17 күн бұрын
yay! prusa! I can hardly contain my excitement!
@astrumrocket6556
@astrumrocket6556 17 күн бұрын
This is really cool, not that I will ever likely own this printer, but it's nice to see it chugging. Also, funny that, other than ball screws instead of belts, a lot of the explanation on how high temp works here is similar to the ideas I had in your previous video where you explained delta kinematics 😀
@Gholson314
@Gholson314 16 күн бұрын
Good to see you around at rapid Nathan, I was also impressed with this machine
@timothyjones7907
@timothyjones7907 16 күн бұрын
I’m really happy to see you getting more sponsors, it seems
@timothyjones7907
@timothyjones7907 16 күн бұрын
Absolutely incredible machine btw😂
@VideoJocky1
@VideoJocky1 16 күн бұрын
I think it is interesting that FLSUN and Prusa both came up with similar hot end cooling method.
@kylewellman402
@kylewellman402 11 күн бұрын
The print quality of that shoe thing was absolutely amazing. I've been looking at other print methods because of the layer lines, but you could hardly even see them on that shoe. If this is the future, and printers like these that can print the high grade engineering filaments become even cheaper and affordable for home shop... man I'm excited lol i have my small business machine shop and i offer very limited 3D prints just because of my equipment. I sit here and imagine the possibilities if i had a printer like the HT90. Being able to print fully funftional gear trains for different machine tools would be super nice.
@TheTranq
@TheTranq 12 күн бұрын
I love this, I hope to own one soon.
@darkenblade986
@darkenblade986 17 күн бұрын
for those wondering the link says 10k
@NoMercyFtw
@NoMercyFtw 17 күн бұрын
I love this comment
@eatthedead1ify
@eatthedead1ify 16 күн бұрын
lol that Steve cameo/photo bomb!
@leonidkalasknikov3714
@leonidkalasknikov3714 15 күн бұрын
Damn, I was there at the expo and I completely missed the Prusa booth. Hopefully I can catch them next time.
@Popisovac_
@Popisovac_ 16 күн бұрын
Love this machine ❤
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots 16 күн бұрын
It’s pretty
@tshev
@tshev 16 күн бұрын
It would been interesting to see the Califlower measurements for this printer.
@jonathanballoch
@jonathanballoch 11 күн бұрын
this thing is insane
@aware2action
@aware2action 17 күн бұрын
Would love seeing the Flsun T1 modded with liquid cooled extruder(might need switching to remote bowden drive) and a PTC chamber heater, just for fun🤯❤👍
@lynntatro7374
@lynntatro7374 11 күн бұрын
Can the FL Sun T1 or S1 be modified to perform like a Prusa Pro HT90?
@user-ie6qc6ug9g
@user-ie6qc6ug9g 13 күн бұрын
What difference does it have from the Flsun S1, I'm curious ?
@Factory400
@Factory400 17 күн бұрын
If reality matches the promises, the price is right for me. Reliability is king when you load up the really expensive materials.
@ficklecycler
@ficklecycler 7 күн бұрын
I remember hearing a loong time ago that delta printers get more inaccurate towards the outside of the build volume due to the geometry of the arms. Is there some way to account for that on a printer at this level with software or is that still a limitation to consider?
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots 7 күн бұрын
Anything can be accurate if it's built properly. The issue arises when the arms aren't the right length, or the frame is crooked. If it's built exactly to specification, it will be accurate. The problem is that most printer's aren't built very accurately, and the problem can be magnified on a poorly-built delta. Given the overall attention to detail on the HT90, I'd assume they made sure to build everything to a high level of precision, and that it will be more than accurate enough even towards the edges.
@antonioesposito8071
@antonioesposito8071 16 күн бұрын
it's a flsun s1 with a heated chamber but the price have a 10X multiplier, in some months you will se a clone og it for 3k max
@Seaofjitsu
@Seaofjitsu 15 күн бұрын
Dammmmmm I would love to do delrin on this 🎉
@jarrodlangford7692
@jarrodlangford7692 15 күн бұрын
Its a write off anyways so i can see the higher temps getting some sales for engineering firms. I sell volume though so for me ill stick to bambu but Im sure itll be a reliable beast for expensive filaments.
@radarmusen
@radarmusen 17 күн бұрын
Like the Wi-Fi dongle and the slide for the camera for privacy it seems more trustworthy.
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots 17 күн бұрын
Yeah, and no 3rd party closed source wireless plugin like with Bambu Lab slicer. That just feel shady to me.
@user-dm5lw7oo2s
@user-dm5lw7oo2s 4 күн бұрын
No drying chamber to kept the filament out of moisture...
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots 4 күн бұрын
The red ABS/ASA print didn't have one, the ULTEM print next to it did.
@tshev
@tshev 16 күн бұрын
Love it. The only drawback I see is that there is no built-in filament dryer or a dry box.
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots 16 күн бұрын
The one next to it was using a dry box. Having that as an external feature makes a lot of sense to me, changing filament is one of the most common tasks, so making it as accessible and easy to operate is a good thing.
@tshev
@tshev 16 күн бұрын
​@@NathanBuildsRobotsI hoped for an optional stackable dryer on top of the printer. Ideally, it would have been optional and allowed to use up to 5 kg spools. Anyway, it's not a problem. Maybe it's a stupid idea, and the current solution is better. Also, it would have been interesting to understand the longevity of this printer. How many KM of the filament to start experiencing issues? My Prusa MK4 Kit is in good shape after 4.7 km, but 4.7 km is nothing. I am considering buying this printer after resolving other priorities.
@VacuousCat
@VacuousCat 12 күн бұрын
I'm holding my tablet in an angle to watch this video.
@SkateSoup
@SkateSoup 17 күн бұрын
I spy with my little eye, Mark from Peopoly around the 13 minute mark checking things out. Magneto D confirmed?
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots 17 күн бұрын
That would be interesting, though it probably wouldn't be high temp Magnets that can survive the high temps are a little weaker and more expensive than standard magnets
@muddymaker3721
@muddymaker3721 17 күн бұрын
Reading some of the comments complaining about the price and capabilities of the Prusa Pro HT90 compared to cheaper machines is akin to someone complaining that the sky is blue and it's unfair lol It's a machine designed for a specific use case that comes with a price tag hahaha. I'll never understand these people that whinge and whine about a product they seem to never like or even owned any of their products but still watch videos on the products and have the energy to write disparaging comments about said product lol *rant over*
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots 17 күн бұрын
Dump trucks are too expensive, I can get an F150 for 1/10th the price.
@muddymaker3721
@muddymaker3721 17 күн бұрын
@@NathanBuildsRobots lol
@andreas.grundler
@andreas.grundler 16 күн бұрын
I have seen similar comments under a video regarding the new Vision Miner printer. They complain that the printer doesn't have lidar or an accelerometer or a camera.
@helixxharpell
@helixxharpell 17 күн бұрын
With my production needs & low budget this printer will probably never see the 4 walls of my print room. 😢
@VyisKhooyaojiunn
@VyisKhooyaojiunn 17 күн бұрын
Isn't that Magball arm that have been around since kosell / ultibots era?
@__S__435
@__S__435 17 күн бұрын
Most likely. If the cups that sit between the arm magnets and the chromed steel balls are made from delrin, they will last for an extremely long time and never require any lubricant. I have also seen U-joints (like the original Kossel) and Traxxas arms (like on the original SeeMeCNC Rostock MAX), but nothing beats mag arms.
@VyisKhooyaojiunn
@VyisKhooyaojiunn 3 күн бұрын
@@__S__435 Yup that's gold standard for delta arm. Always in my mind to build this if my Traxxas arm fail.
@__S__435
@__S__435 3 күн бұрын
@@VyisKhooyaojiunn Traxxas joints wear out and get sloppy over time. Happened to me and many others. It's why SeeMeCNC stopped using them. They're meant for remote controlled cars and planes.
@platin2148
@platin2148 16 күн бұрын
Wait it's open on the bottom? So it will throw 90 celsius hot air out?
@riba2233
@riba2233 16 күн бұрын
No, it is not
@platin2148
@platin2148 16 күн бұрын
@@riba2233 So kzbin.info/www/bejne/nIvLq6SAaNFnq6Msi=OGbBfA-d_CWolF0A&t=556 is not meaning there is a real view into the chamber?
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots 16 күн бұрын
It’s a little window, it’s not open air
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots 16 күн бұрын
Meaning, it’s a bit of clear plastic there. They just moved the handle up a little so you can peek into that critical area if needed
@terranceroberts6259
@terranceroberts6259 17 күн бұрын
I am a prusa fan. But isn’t the idex 3 printer from vision minor a better deal than this? Not that I can afford or justify buying either one.
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots 17 күн бұрын
I think a lot more people have had experience with PRUSA printers in the MK3S and the MK4, so it's an easier sell to management to say "buy one of these because we've bought a printer from them before and know how to use the ecosystem"
@yayinternets
@yayinternets 17 күн бұрын
I think this printer is like the middle ground between say a Bambu X1C and the latest VisionMiner. VM is well setup for selling to big companies, government and have a whole plug and play type system for engineers and specialty manufacturing. Not to mention, more experience in that target market in general. This Prusa is probably more like a good value for small businesses who don’t necessarily need or want the overhead of needing a whole big support system that has a lot of profit margin built in, and can build a small fleet if needed at lower cost per printer.
@riba2233
@riba2233 17 күн бұрын
VM had some serious issues :|
@nobodyuknow4911
@nobodyuknow4911 17 күн бұрын
Well, I'm looking at the 22 IDEX v3, and it has a "higher ceiling" than the HT90, but it also has a considerably higher "floor" as well given that it starts at basically $15,000 The HT90 isn't cheap by any description of the word, it starts at basically $10,000 as well, so it has to punch a little above its weight class to show them up and nip at the heels of the 22 IDEX v3 so to speak. As such, it's got a few less bells and whistles, but offers more than hobbyist-consumer-level products... In any event, short of robbing some banks... repeatedly... I'm not in the market for either, just comparing specs and advertising fluff
@lynntatro7374
@lynntatro7374 11 күн бұрын
Doesn't the 22 IDEX v3 have 9 motors whereas the Prusa Pro HT90 have 3 (as well as the FL Sun S1 and T1)?
@notchipotle
@notchipotle 12 күн бұрын
he kinda looks like walmart RDJ
@HuskysAquariums
@HuskysAquariums 15 күн бұрын
PRUSA: "we came up with a new cooling system"....DIY 3D Printing community (VZ BOT, RatRig, Voron): "WTF????"
@TheOneAndOnlySatan
@TheOneAndOnlySatan 16 күн бұрын
Prusa asks 9990,00 dollar for it, no joke WTF prusa.
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots 16 күн бұрын
It comes with a $9 discount!
@matthewwain9958
@matthewwain9958 15 күн бұрын
It's not aimed at the home, it's aimed at an industrial application, which almost certainly means it comes with a ton of support in that purchase.
@TheOneAndOnlySatan
@TheOneAndOnlySatan 15 күн бұрын
@@matthewwain9958 do you see any of them react here ? No its hobbyist, companies dont look at something like this. That pilot in Germany that they spun like its part of assembly was just a sale agreement
@matthewwain9958
@matthewwain9958 15 күн бұрын
@@TheOneAndOnlySatan as far as I have seen when I looked last week at the HT90, it was being used by quite a few automotive companies. No hobbyist is going to be buying a 10k Delta when they can buy wayyy better value machines. These are intended for industrial applications.
@nobocks
@nobocks 14 күн бұрын
😂😂😂😂​@@NathanBuildsRobots
@eaojnr
@eaojnr 17 күн бұрын
Prusa shoots straight to the top of the delta style printers... wow!!! And that price tag makes me shake too...
@giovannifontanetto9604
@giovannifontanetto9604 17 күн бұрын
its probably the least costly machina with these features. By like 3 to 4 times.
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots 17 күн бұрын
Yeah but when you’re printing filament that costs $1000 per kg, for parts that get installed in machines that costs $1,000,000+, and the alternative printer that your company has access to is $200,000 and the size of a car, and located in a separate building… suddenly the cost of the printer becomes less of a concern. It’s definitely not aimed at the hobby market
@adammatic
@adammatic 17 күн бұрын
@@NathanBuildsRobots Sounds like a good strategy, these printers can have high margins. Is is also open source? Could people copy it?
@colinmetzger6755
@colinmetzger6755 17 күн бұрын
Creatbot PEEK printer is only about 4 to 5k more expensive and can get the chamber to 120 IIRC and you can heat the filament container to 100C to keep your PEEK dry.​@@giovannifontanetto9604
@eaojnr
@eaojnr 17 күн бұрын
@@NathanBuildsRobots indeed, indeed! That’s the Pro-ness
@vim55k
@vim55k 17 күн бұрын
Not idex , so how to print support..
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots 17 күн бұрын
That is a good question, that is the only feature that is missing that a lot of engineering applications might miss. It shouldn't be too difficult to fit one on there as a future upgrade.
@__S__435
@__S__435 17 күн бұрын
Supposedly the active part cooling addresses that, though I suspect it's not feasible to rely on that alone in every case. Some customers will inevitably print using the main filament as support, and then someone will have to go through, cut it off, and sand the interface sprues down. That will be a "good enough" solution for many.
@vim55k
@vim55k 16 күн бұрын
@@__S__435 you mean to extra cool the support for it to not stick?
@thePavuk
@thePavuk 16 күн бұрын
Interesting, pretty prints. But I feel like I would trust 22Idex from Vision Miner more. 15K but idex, and higher temps and volume.
@riba2233
@riba2233 16 күн бұрын
Why they have a poor track record
@ivoidwarrantiesuk
@ivoidwarrantiesuk 11 күн бұрын
Did he say affordable? It’s £10k! Prusa please don’t go down the apple route and over price your stuff
@marcelo962
@marcelo962 17 күн бұрын
First? It's criminal to be this early 😮
@us3rnam3144
@us3rnam3144 12 күн бұрын
10grand ..............are they high?
@Xpr01
@Xpr01 17 күн бұрын
but the filament is in the free environment without any case? It's a huge mistake I think.
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots 17 күн бұрын
If you look at the printer on the left it is using a dry box. Don’t worry they’ve thought about this 🤣
@lavafree
@lavafree 17 күн бұрын
Nice machine…looks expensive 😝
@Mintor94
@Mintor94 17 күн бұрын
It is. But it's enterprise class machine
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots 17 күн бұрын
Would be a shame if one of the display models disappeared overnight 🫥
@JosephStory
@JosephStory 17 күн бұрын
00:13:24 Steve photo bomb, hehe
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots 17 күн бұрын
Get him outta here!
@roystevens4333
@roystevens4333 11 күн бұрын
So Prusa has designed a FLSUN S1 for four times the price. This is certainly an improvement over their X1C copy that was only 3x. Always the innovators over there in CR. Can't wait to see the next printer they copy.
@krollmond7544
@krollmond7544 17 күн бұрын
Definitely expensive but honestly props to Prusa for doing their own thing rather than the copy and paste speedy multi color prints. Idk why Bambu fanbois keep coming on these Prusa videos lol. "I bought a Bambu, I'm so happy with what i have. I never looked back at Prusa. So let me comment on ever single Prusa video".
@Vallecaucanisimo
@Vallecaucanisimo 17 күн бұрын
I wouldn’t be surprised if many of those comments are fake, just like amazon reviews.
@krollmond7544
@krollmond7544 17 күн бұрын
@Vallecaucanisimo yeah possibly, but damn do they get around lol.
@OuijaSTi
@OuijaSTi 17 күн бұрын
I have a Prusa Mk3.5 and a Bambu X1 and the Bambu wins hands down for my purposes. Doesn't mean the Prusa is bad, Bambu just pushed everything forward at their pricepoint.
@krollmond7544
@krollmond7544 17 күн бұрын
@@OuijaSTi that's a lame comparison lol
@riba2233
@riba2233 16 күн бұрын
@@krollmond7544 how so?
@mrt5393
@mrt5393 17 күн бұрын
Mr Prusa was bashing on CoreXY when the MK4 came out and here they are highlighting the benefits of a still heatbed. CoreXY is the way to go in general, once you realize how hard to accelerate and deaccelerate a growing mass is, you know that bed slingers are now considered entry level printers. Time for a Prusa XL Mini to get the cost down and move to CoreXY, the community made that decision. Once you see a Creality K1C or upgraded K1 beating a MK4 in most aspects, you know you have some work to do...
@JSparrowist
@JSparrowist 17 күн бұрын
prusa get the cost down. XD I'm dead.
@LilApe
@LilApe 17 күн бұрын
This dude just tried to compare a creality K1 to a prusa MK4 lmao They're worlds apart in build quality and reliability.
@JSparrowist
@JSparrowist 17 күн бұрын
@@LilApe You're right! The K1 doesn't melt when put into an enclosure and printing high temp materials. XD
@youtubehandlesux
@youtubehandlesux 17 күн бұрын
Cartesian is strictly better than delta or corexy when it comes to print quality, period. And I own a corexy printer with 35k acceleration, just in case you doubt me.
@JSparrowist
@JSparrowist 17 күн бұрын
@@youtubehandlesux XD sure..
@Denniss7420
@Denniss7420 17 күн бұрын
"Oh yeah, y'all - it's better than the X1C........but Ten times the price!!!!"
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots 17 күн бұрын
And 1000 times the price of my 3D printing pen!
@carlosjosejimenezbermudez9255
@carlosjosejimenezbermudez9255 17 күн бұрын
Because of course an X1C can print Ultem at 400 celsius, with an actively heated chamber, right?
@__S__435
@__S__435 17 күн бұрын
​@@carlosjosejimenezbermudez9255 That is what the naysayers keep missing. "For that price, you can buy X number of Y!" But the Y printer can never hope to approach several of the capabilities of this printer. So you bought ten of them for the same price as one of these, congratulations, now you can have ten printers failing to perform the needed work in parallel.
@Denniss7420
@Denniss7420 17 күн бұрын
Forgot to add: $900.00 to ship, $213 for the prusa pro filament dry box, $2,100 for the UF30 filament dryer.
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots 17 күн бұрын
@@Denniss7420 not 100% sure but I believe PRUSA RESEARCH is a private company that is self-funded. The worst thing you can do is underprice your product and lose money on it, because there are no investors, loans, or subsidies to fall back on.
@danieljack4855
@danieljack4855 17 күн бұрын
I'm going to say this right now before anybody does says this. Prusa is going to perfect the Delta 3D Printer model and is going to beat any competitors it competes with. However that's if bambulab comes out with a Delta 3D Printer Model and it's way cheaper.
@matthewwain9958
@matthewwain9958 15 күн бұрын
1) Prusa buys a delta company rather than developing it themselves. 2) Prusa improves it?
@Z-add
@Z-add 16 күн бұрын
Intamsys funmat ht is $6k. How does prusa expect to compete with them for $4k higher price tag. Instamsys is proven industrial machine.
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots 16 күн бұрын
Sure but it's probably not as quiet or as nice to look at and pretty sure it's slower.
@Immolate62
@Immolate62 17 күн бұрын
Can't wait until Bambu makes one for $1500.
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots 17 күн бұрын
Bambus similar offering is the X1E It’s nice but it only goes up to 60C chamber temperature. Getting all the way to 90C is a pretty big deal, as it requires you to replace grease, belts, and electronics with high temp variants. Also it requires additional sealing, insulation, and higher power draw.
@LilApe
@LilApe 17 күн бұрын
It'll probably come with a recall too.
@JOEDHIGGINS
@JOEDHIGGINS 17 күн бұрын
​@@NathanBuildsRobots I think the only particularly hard part of all high chamber temperatures is magnets and electronics. Gotta keep them away and insulated from the chamber (which makes for a bunch of added design restrictions, and why I am assuming that they went for a Delta) or you have to use relatively exotic materials in complex fabrications. Weirdly though, something like this is really a problem of scale. We can print most things short of to PEEK, PEKK, and large parts of pure Nylon in a Sub 1k printer. Those materials in filament form are pricey because nobody buys them. Nobody buys them because they are a pain to print (even on the machines that are pretty good at them). So for this to really work outside of ultra niche applications, someone needs to make a reasonably priced printer that will print these materials reliably (probably both a hardware and software solution given the material shrinkage rates). That way the filaments themselves can commodify and become reasonably priced. Then we may see this more in engineering applications. But for now, 90C buys you pure nylon, not the ultra-high-end stuff, and now you are competing with a bunch of SLS printers in the 10k price range, but you are accepting worse quality for a larger build volume but slower production rate and anisotropic part strength. Not sure if FDM will be the ultimate solution for high end thermoplastics, but I don't think that a 90C delta for 10K is a meaningful step to the goal. It certainly doesn't get us any closer to production at any meaningful scale, and what is the point of prototyping with the correct material (say unreinforced nylon) if my prototype will have necessarily different properties when compared to a part made in whatever my ultimate production method turns out to be. 90 C is in no specs I have seen recommended chamber temp for PEEK PEKK. Seems like it may work for smaller parts, but I would wonder about layer adhesion. Also, I definitely don't need a 90C chamber for ASA and ABS.
@youtubehandlesux
@youtubehandlesux 17 күн бұрын
And mediocre with questionable design choices, just like the rest of the bambu printers.
@youtubehandlesux
@youtubehandlesux 17 күн бұрын
​@@JOEDHIGGINSAfter testing out how strong ASA parts printed in 65C chambers are, yes you need high temperatures to bring out its full potential.
@130lexa
@130lexa 17 күн бұрын
10K and you can be pro and print nylons from open spool...haha jeesus.
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots 17 күн бұрын
They have a dry box for the higher temp materials. If you look at the printer on the left it is using one. But at the same time, if you want to use materials that don’t need a dry box, an open spool in an easy to reach location is the best solution
@kyky7kyle7
@kyky7kyle7 17 күн бұрын
Ripoff flsun with less features and more price
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots 17 күн бұрын
😂 lol, what?
@NoMercyFtw
@NoMercyFtw 17 күн бұрын
Let me guess before I even watched the video the price is going to be$5299, Prusa TAX baby, Prusa is one of those companies that tries to be elegant and ahead of the curve but honestly since getting into 3D printing Prusa just seems like the old dude on the block that keeps beating up kids for their lunch money because he can because he's bigger lol, I don't think I'll ever buy or own one from them because they just don't seem like they're good at anything in particular, it's like buying an old DOS computer now to using your workshop for editing, are they ever going to catch up or find their way cause it seems like they're chasing every thing trying to make something stick they have one core XY machine now they're going to have one delta machine now I'm not a prusa scholar so I don't know if they've ever done this before but are there any other one off machines that they have that I'm missing, the one thing I'm going to have fun with is buying old prices a few years from now when they're put out of business or bought and rebranded and stripping them for parts
@Mintor94
@Mintor94 17 күн бұрын
It's almost twice that
@NoMercyFtw
@NoMercyFtw 17 күн бұрын
Holy hell I was way off by almost half they are truly out of their mind
@NoMercyFtw
@NoMercyFtw 17 күн бұрын
@@Mintor94 yeah I see that I guess I was just giving them the benefit of the doubt
@Mintor94
@Mintor94 17 күн бұрын
@@NoMercyFtw this is not supposed to be a printer for an avarage joe, enterprise class printers can be a lot more costly
@krollmond7544
@krollmond7544 17 күн бұрын
Before you jerk yourself off too hard, maybe consider Prusa targeting a different audience rather than the Apple of 3D printers AKA all the idiot proof printers Bambu released that probably can't print engineering grade material like this printer can.
@reyalPRON
@reyalPRON 17 күн бұрын
6:30 he says more heat = more layerbonding.. thats bs! utterly bs... more temp = cooked filament = worse bonding. and these ppl make machines??!? wow.... more temp = brittle.
@youtubehandlesux
@youtubehandlesux 17 күн бұрын
More chamber temp equals better bonding even for PLA. Stfu if you don't understand the basics of fdm printing.
@daliasprints9798
@daliasprints9798 17 күн бұрын
Indeed this person has no idea what he's talking about. Even PLA doesn't "cook" until at least 250+, and only if it sits at that temp a long time. Good bonding comes at 240+, especially important if you have adequate cooling for sharp overhangs and short layer times.
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots 17 күн бұрын
The guy I was interviewing knows more about 3D printing than me, so pretty sure if he said something he was right
@TNX255
@TNX255 17 күн бұрын
What a weird comment :o Have you ever tried 3D printing in real life?
@reyalPRON
@reyalPRON 17 күн бұрын
@@youtubehandlesux he was saying this when mentioning the nozzle. go back and see?
@VoluntaristSociety
@VoluntaristSociety 17 күн бұрын
looks like a clone of flsun.
@krollmond7544
@krollmond7544 16 күн бұрын
I doubt the FLSun can print PEEK
@VoluntaristSociety
@VoluntaristSociety 16 күн бұрын
@krollmond7544 sure but a heat block upgrade is not the same thing as it being a unique or improved printer design
@krollmond7544
@krollmond7544 16 күн бұрын
@VoluntaristSociety I haven't seen anything other than corexy, delta, bedslinger and belt printers.
@riba2233
@riba2233 16 күн бұрын
​It is not just the heat block lol
@krollmond7544
@krollmond7544 16 күн бұрын
@@riba2233 holy shit this man is in love with me lmao
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