Indiana Supreme Court is going to rule on whether an Indiana man had the right to pry an unidentified GPS tracker off of his car - which had been placed there by the police. www.lehtoslaw.com
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@MarkReadPickens4 жыл бұрын
Speaking as a former drug dealer, I would have left it in place so as to mislead police. For example, occasionally park for ten minutes near houses of prominent politicians.
@stormy4394 жыл бұрын
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@statinskill4 жыл бұрын
I just pointed out the same thing two mins ago. Surveillance you know about can be a great asset. A known mole is an opportunity. To be able to feed the enemy information is priceless, provided you know what you are doing.
@uncletom-e44614 жыл бұрын
Mark Read Pickens...Why not just stick it on a police car...???
@outdoorsguy4 жыл бұрын
@@statinskill Unfortunately, the Trump administration has arrested Chinese spys, instead of feeding them worthless misinformation.
@statinskill4 жыл бұрын
@@outdoorsguy Unfortunately, you are talking out of your ass about things you don't fully understand.
@thousandaireradio31994 жыл бұрын
The fact that this is even a conversation means we have a problem.
@thousandaireradio31994 жыл бұрын
@FortyFive Nineteen11 Hey! Dont insult feed stock like that! 😁🗽🇺🇲 We are a very diverse culture. Most Americans are awesome but we have subsidized a lot of undesirables that's for sure.
@originalfiremancancelled73034 жыл бұрын
thousandaire radio 1936 Germany🤔
@raymondfrye50174 жыл бұрын
@@lionheart6729 Rise of the Warrior Cop
@brucejones23544 жыл бұрын
If you are a woman and you need help DO NOT CALL THE POLICE! Because, when they finally show up never approach the drivers window to talk to them about the problem you are having, or the officer in the passenger seat will reach across the driver and shoot and kill you.
@monteglover41334 жыл бұрын
Ditto
@MrRich2u Жыл бұрын
The fact that this had to go all the way to the Indiana Supreme Court is absurd. Every Judge who touched this case before it got to the Supreme court should be stripped of their robes.
@bobbydowling4263 Жыл бұрын
maybe their underwear and socks too
@havenbastion8 ай бұрын
Y'all misspelled "life".
@JeanPierreWhite7 ай бұрын
@@bobbydowling4263 That alone would be a level 6 Felony. Indecent Exposure.
@Phantom-oj9kg Жыл бұрын
I drive a semi for a living. The machine is inspected daily and from time to time, I find road debris caught up in the truck somewhere. Being a responsible and caring individual, I remove the debris and place it in the first available trash receptacle I find. And if the label on it that says,”Property of Blah Blah PD, if found, please call BR549” happens to be obscured by road dirt and road oil, I won’t be feeling an obligation to clean it off to read it because it was a foreign object stuck to my machine.
@Sludgedragon10 күн бұрын
BR549 LOL
@okaro65953 жыл бұрын
Requiring someone to keep a tracking device is awfully close to forcing him to testify against himself.
@elavke54413 жыл бұрын
@Quentin Styger probably
@dallaswood41173 жыл бұрын
@Quentin Styger testifying against yourself is the fifth
@dallaswood41173 жыл бұрын
You could argue for the fourth Amendment unreasonable search and seizure though too
@cobrastrike60432 жыл бұрын
Personally, I don't care if it's labeled "by order of the POTUS", I would assume ownership of it, pry the device off, & smash it w/ a hammer. Then, if I'm questioned I'd demand a lawyer to be present before answering squat! There is precedent for an ownership argument just by the fact that whenever they find any sort of illegal contraband in any vehicle, the ownership is always the owner of the vehicle.
@jaynederp52362 жыл бұрын
that's ok, thankfully for our benign government overlords, "awfully close" only counts in horseshoes, hand grenades and airstrikes in syria.
@jackburnell32092 жыл бұрын
I watched a guy on my IR CCTV camera doing something at the rear of my car at 4am one morning. I have a wireless perimeter alarm that goes off in my hallway whenever anyone crosses over my sidewalk and heard it beep. I watched the guy on my camera and when he walked off, I watched him through my window walk a couple of houses down and get in the passenger seat of an SUV and it drove off. I went outside and found it stuck magnetically behind my back wheel on the body. Pried it off, saw what it was, and dropped it into my car seat. Next morning I get up, drive to a waffle house on I-20, grab a bite to eat and when I left, I stuck it to the little back blade of a Bobcat on a trailer with Mississippi plates. I lived in Texas.
@lakeozarkrei3767 Жыл бұрын
Well dam... some spy shit going on at your house! lol IR CCTV surveillance, wireless perimeter alarms... Whatdya got going on over there??😅
@jameshowlett4314 Жыл бұрын
I'll take stories that never happened for 500.
@danayen4806 Жыл бұрын
Now I know what to do thank you.
@BGraves Жыл бұрын
You manufactured this story just to justify all the paranoia devices you installed
@LuckyCharms777 Жыл бұрын
Tell me more about this wireless perimeter alarm. I’ve been wanting one of these to alert to bad guys approaching, or really just anyone.
@byteafterbyte Жыл бұрын
You left off the recent use of trackers to steal automobiles by either tracking them back to the house to be stolen at night or tracking to a movie theatre or other venue where they know it will sit for a while. And even the police themselves warned people to be aware of unknown trackers placed on their vehicle.
@beyondEVАй бұрын
Which is why the logical thing to do, for someone not criminal, to go to the next police station, if they find a tracker on their vehicle. They could also use it, to know, when nobody is home to commit burglary.
@daleleppert6914 Жыл бұрын
I know a lady who was being harassed by police because the city of Fort Collins in Colorado was mad at her for things she was exposing. The Larimer County Sheriff's office placed the tracker on her car without a warrant. She took it to the Weld County sheriff who were able to trace it back to Larimer County sheriff.
@Mikeanglo2 жыл бұрын
What's to stop the police from placing it, removing it themselves, claiming the suspect removed it and then obtaining the warrant over "theft"?
@TheAwesomes21042 жыл бұрын
Nothing, but police do that with anything, so it's a bit of an odd loophole to try to get someone on when you can literally just plant drugs on them. If they're able to plant that on his car, they could have taped something illegal to the spare tire or something then said "While attempting to install GPS tracker, x, y, and z were found." I mean, obviously less loop holes are better, but we still live in a police state where our "freedom" can be stripped from us at anytime regardless, unfortunately.
@SupremeInvigilator2 жыл бұрын
You're hired!
@murphmurph21242 жыл бұрын
Yes
@closer712 жыл бұрын
Nothing. Which is why this whole thing is ridiculous.
@jager68632 жыл бұрын
The search warrants would all be "Fruit of the Poisonous Tree" and all the evidence in this case needs to be excluded. Either do police work right or suffer the consequences.
@captianmorgan76272 жыл бұрын
The results for those who want to know: "The Supreme Court of Indiana suppressed all evidence resulting from search warrants obtained on the basis that the sheriff’s department concluded a suspect “stole” the GPS device being used to track him when it failed to transmit its location for 10 days." and "the Court characterized the actions of the officers in conducting the search based on the facts presented in this case as “reckless.” The Court explained “that applying the exclusionary rule here will deter similar reckless conduct in the future.”"
@JerryEricsson2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I came to this page looking for the update!
@stevejette23292 жыл бұрын
Captian or Captain - That gives me hope.
@dperson65572 жыл бұрын
Sounds about right
@mariaweston54772 жыл бұрын
This is scary. Can they attach a tracker to a car without a court order? Calling it theft is absurd. I’m not happy dealer gets off and bothered by police action.
@sur-real34162 жыл бұрын
@@banditeastlick2471 Couple things, not sure about entering private property without a warrant. But it would be easy enough to surveil someone follow them when they go somewhere and then place the tracker on their vehicle once they've left their home and are no longer on private property. Additionally, police are allowed to go on to private property even enter a residence if they're in what's called hot pursuit, that is basically chasing someone who's just committed a crime. It's not like the cops have to stop and stand outside the door of someone's personal residence because they were chasing a robber or a killer and they ran into the front door or back door or any door of a private residence. Also, if there's an unmarked device on your car, unless you have first-hand knowledge I would have no clue what a GPS tracker looks like. I can imagine it would be some kind of round circle thing I have no idea.
@vorbach1 Жыл бұрын
Years ago, I came home to find someone left junky old furniture in my backyard. I put it on the curb because trash pickup was the next morning. After the trash was picked up, I got a call from a relative who said it was antique furniture that she wanted me to store for her. She hadn’t left a note, there wasn’t a voicemail, and I didn’t even know she was in town. Did I steal her antiques? Her junk, that she didn’t take with her when she moved seven years prior, had worn out it’s welcome with the people she had entrusted it to. She had them dump it on my property and I treated it as abandoned property. How am I supposed to know if something in or on my car is not abandoned property?
@jessiesheldon-huffey18248 ай бұрын
You are not in the wrong. Your relative should have asked your permission before doing that and shouldn't be surprised by the outcome.
@rossjohnson18727 ай бұрын
Drive the tracker to your local truckstop and find a rig doing coast to coast freight.
@jdneal18956 ай бұрын
good answer!!à
@bgold2007Ай бұрын
What s confused post between beginning and end contradictory
@barbaramatthews47352 жыл бұрын
My problem with "confidential informat" is the 6th Admendment. How can someone offer evidence against someone else and remain anonymous? I believe that somewhere in there is something about the right to face your accuser among other rights.
@Muhahahahaz Жыл бұрын
Well, I think the confidential informants are used to generate leads and obtain warrants, not as actual evidence or testimony during trial. But yes, citing info from a confidential informant in order to gain a warrant can still be problematic (makes it easier for the police to just lie on the warrant application, for instance)
@getinthespace7715 Жыл бұрын
@Muhahahahaz, you are literally talking about "evidence" required to obtain a search warrant.
@hippo-potamus4 жыл бұрын
And what judge is signing these warrants!? Zero consequences for cops. Even less for corrupt judges.
@Infamous_B_C4 жыл бұрын
hippo potamus a Democrat im sure
@nathandean16873 жыл бұрын
actually you can send those judges back to england as thier appointed by a foriegn power. also look at the fine print on the contract the lawyers have to sign to become lawyers. they give up thier right to called us. citizens. and become english citizen.
@punker4Real3 жыл бұрын
make a claim on the judges bond
@freedomisfromtruth2 жыл бұрын
@@nathandean1687 Since the US became a debt corp for England after civil war debts
@Road_Rash3 жыл бұрын
I say if they stuck it on your car, it's not theft, they literally gave it to you...besides your tax dollars paid for it...
@rmrtxchl2643 жыл бұрын
Very good point...
@stupidhat17793 жыл бұрын
I like that logic :-)
@BasicEndjo3 жыл бұрын
so esentially they forced you to pay for something that you did not need. sounds like government is a scam and a gangster organisation
@BasicEndjo3 жыл бұрын
@@tomisnt freight train maybe not. but if they are tracking you and think you are selling drugs or something then yeah putting it on a car bound for another city. or state. a car with another states licence plate. i'd feel bad for the poor guy tho. but maybehe could get money. just make it seem like and accident. or maybe even sell it to someone lol
@SmallSpoonBrigade3 жыл бұрын
Don't keep it, remove it and place it on another car.
@stevebenson5062 жыл бұрын
Live in Canada and I actually found something on my car years ago. It was in the wheel well. Fairly large then so much harder to hide in those days. It was electronic in nature and wasn’t there the last time I washed my car. My wife and daughter were out of town for a week visiting relatives. No idea who put it there. I am not a criminal and the worst I have done is speeding tickets when I was a teen. I removed it and contemplated a long time what to do with it. Decided to just throw it in the garbage. I was a businessman, the only thing I could think was some sort of corporate espionage but that didn’t make sense either as my companies were doing well but just 3 small companies that payed me well but were no threat to anyone. Still don’t know to this day who put it there or why. Never found anything else since? That was about 25 years ago.
@FFM05947 ай бұрын
Your wife suspected you were having an affair?
@addhoardingprocrastinator6 ай бұрын
@@FFM0594 or it got put their by mistake, but they were really expense back then, so yeah first guess would be suspicious spouse.
@fallouthirteen Жыл бұрын
In my opinion if you're concealing your property on/in someone else's property without them knowing, you're kind of giving up any right to claim theft. They don't know why it's there or where it came from and should have every right to take it off and dispose of it (or hold it somewhere safe in case someone comes asking for it if they feel generous).
@patricklondon60064 жыл бұрын
30 years ago a retired judge told me stay out of the court system. It's crooked as hell and you will never win.
@mthibeau4 жыл бұрын
That is truly depressing to hear.
@markmiller45034 жыл бұрын
@stuart johnson yeah if we just would vote harder..
@MegaDavyk4 жыл бұрын
@@markmiller4503 Vote as hard as you like, the vote counting machines were compromised from the start. You don't vote these Bastards in and you can't vote them out. Look up "Fractional voting magic"
@owenprince48234 жыл бұрын
@@MegaDavyk The computers are also made in China with extra chips in them to control the outcome. No paper trail, and then vote harvesting and dead people voting , and millions of illegal non-citizens voting and teens on the voting list and voters who vote more than once who take a bus to vote again, and again, etc, etc, etc. The criminals have overrun the system and will lie cheat and steal to get and keep power. The elections have been rigged for a very long time but now worse because of the computers. The people should fill out their vote at the Trump rally so they have a paper trail and true voting instead of a rigged system.
@skiggy0074 жыл бұрын
@@owenprince4823 That's a fantastic idea about people at Trump rallies submitting a paper ballot. You should contact the White House and tell them about it.
@LesHicks3 жыл бұрын
The police "gave" him the tracker by placing it on his property. How can a person "steal" an item that was voluntarily "given" to him?
@cronobactersakazakii51332 жыл бұрын
- You comited robbery ! - No sir, the clerck "gave" me property of the cash by placing it into my bag
@gutz-Coldrevenge2 жыл бұрын
@@cronobactersakazakii5133 more like - You committed robbery - No they left it in my car, i found it, and wasn't sure what it is, so placed in a safe place to wait for the person who lost it comes to claim it.
@timsgta Жыл бұрын
@@cronobactersakazakii5133 you isn't too bright are you
@spikespa5208 Жыл бұрын
Les Hicks *And* you don't even *know* he/they gave it to you?
@dogsdroolllquinavancepasre6756 Жыл бұрын
I heard of someone mailing one across the country.
@damiandelapp5490 Жыл бұрын
As Steve alluded to the “anonymous tip” and the securing of a warrant…how convenient, i sure wish they were required to have the warrant hearing recorded especially if its anonymous and the level of scrutiny of that informant.
@PaulRubino Жыл бұрын
Can you imagine? "You must allow us to track you." LOL! Hell, forget the tracker, just force the guy to drive around with a cop in the backseat.
@addhoardingprocrastinator6 ай бұрын
The car must have been quite old, cause any new car (at least 2012, I think 2006) can be tracked without an extra tracker. My Conspiracy theory about why they did the ash for clunkers was to help get rid of as many of non factory installed trackers as possible.
@aaron-dd5zr6 ай бұрын
And feed him coffee and donuts
@garythecyclingnerd6219Ай бұрын
@@addhoardingprocrastinatorBoth untrue and conspiracy brain rot
@beyondEVАй бұрын
What he should have done. Get to a police station and press charges against unknown, for illegally tracking him (Citizen). As a criminal, it's obviously better not to tip them off, about the fact you know they track you. Over here, i would be more worried, that the tracker was from organized crime than the police. they don't do that yet (to my knowledge) but they do shadow people, so they know when to commit burglaries without being disturbed.
@1gman5473 жыл бұрын
Just stick it on a semi-truck heading out of town.
@jessegarcia82563 жыл бұрын
On a train or plane
@PatrickKQ4HBD3 жыл бұрын
Haha, that's a good way to get in a fight with a trucker! Or maybe you could pay a guy to play "pass it along". 😂
@rudygeorgiamulesandcountry15943 жыл бұрын
.... preferably with Alaska plates on it !.
@andrewsmith90483 жыл бұрын
Get a bus or cab to party supply store purchase helium balloons return to tracker attach tracker to new lighter than air conveyence. Proceed to public park and release.
@sabr51623 жыл бұрын
I would leave it in the driveway during heavy rain. "Oops, it must have fallen off!"
@etcflyers37604 жыл бұрын
I would pry it off and stick it to a police car
@ScubaGirl684 жыл бұрын
More fun to place it on a dumpster truck or postie van ;-)
@georgemead66084 жыл бұрын
@@michaellowe3665: or, perhaps, a container ship bound for China.
@ehsnils4 жыл бұрын
Lend your car to someone going for a long road trip.
@gene81724 жыл бұрын
School bus, city bus, subway train, snowplow, neighboor’s car, pizza delivery guy, your ex’s car, the guy at work you don’t like who was promoted over you, your boss, a boat during boating season, the middle of the desert during s cross country trip, the middle of a small island in the middle of a lake that’s your favorite fishing spot. Possibilities are endless!
@bigbob16994 жыл бұрын
This is why you should always know at least two flight attendants , one going to Asia and one on the South Africa run.
@ronemtae3468 Жыл бұрын
This happened to individual I knew they put a tracker on a commercial truck. He was the owner of the business and it was only one truck. He thinks they may have put a tracker on the truck by accident so when he went into the police department and ask them they pretended not to know anything about it. He pulled a tracker off the vehicle. He carefully bubble, wrapped and placed in a package and ship it to New York. He was currently living in Chicago.
@computernerdtechmanАй бұрын
If I found a GPS tracker stuck to my car, I would disconnect it and put it on a long haul truckers vehicle and really mess with the people who placed the trackers minds wondering why I am going across the country.
@Paul-ju5px4 жыл бұрын
If you put it on my car, which is my property, you've essentially given it to me to do with it as I wish.
@jackejr744 жыл бұрын
I agree 100% Paul!!! Anyone that attaches something on my property (without probable cause) then it becomes MY PROPERTY to do with any way I wish. Actually they have trespassed and defaced my property subject to lawsuit and damages..... including emotional STRESS and any other bullshit I can dream up before we go to court!!!
@WorBlux4 жыл бұрын
Not actually true. You are obligated to make a reasonable effort to notify the owner of any lost or mislaid property you find. That being said the tracker wasn't marked in any way, and the owner already had a pretty good idea who they needed to talk to to recover it.
@ashleesue4 жыл бұрын
@@WorBlux i think if i found this i'd find a TT unit at a rest stop and attach it to that and hope it goes cross country.
@maxwellstreetpolish4 жыл бұрын
Can I charge them rent for keeping it and mileage for the added fuel consumption it will require? What about the inconvenience of me having to work around it as I wash and maintain my car?
@Paul-ju5px4 жыл бұрын
@@WorBlux Actually, it wouldn't be "lost or Mislaid" if it was attached to my property. Highly unlikely something would accidentally be stuck to the underside of my car.
@peterking26513 жыл бұрын
As a former British Soldier (from the time of “The Troubles”) I would be extremely concerned about an unknown tracking device on my vehicle.
@stupidhat17793 жыл бұрын
Indeed.
@Billhatestheinternet3 жыл бұрын
Hell, you would be searching your vehicle constantly for a lot more than a fucking tracker.
@sparkysun433 жыл бұрын
The IRA didn't care WHERE you went, they just wanted you to go UP. Nasty buggers.
@simondan38283 жыл бұрын
It's an object stuck under your car. Could be a bomb. I say it needs to be immediately removed and put in a safe place- buried deep in the ground, in a river- where it wouldn't kill anyone.
@steelisthemeal3 жыл бұрын
Very true
@scott28622 жыл бұрын
Confidential informants need to be an abolished protection period. All citizens accused of a crime are entitled to face and question our accusers in a court of law with a jury present.
@imichael2411 Жыл бұрын
We no longer have law enforcement, we have a modern day Gestapo.
@EnFuego79Ай бұрын
Most underrated comment on here. Also the inevitable outcome of all centralized gov't.
@greg_2162 жыл бұрын
I feel like this is like putting an envelope full of money in someone's mailbox and then claiming they're harboring stolen property because they brought the envelope inside.
@thelordraimondo Жыл бұрын
Lol, even worse. They attached it to his car, already effectively on his property. This would be the equivalent of slipping the envelope under their door then claiming theft.
@wilneal8015 Жыл бұрын
It's my understanding that if you receive an unsolicited package in the US Mail, you are permitted to Claim it as yours, and Keep It! 😅❤🎉
@johnnylightning1491 Жыл бұрын
@@wilneal8015 This is true. This law was implemented I think in the 1960s when credit card companies used to send out unsolicited credit cards, people would use them and then get stuck for the bill. The law was passed to stop this practice, it worked.
@Boomer-cf2br4 жыл бұрын
Never trust a cop or prosecuting attorney, they will lie like hell for a score.
@jimpyre50384 жыл бұрын
Prosecuting attorneys can't lie. The police can tell you the sky is colored green.
@jimpyre50384 жыл бұрын
Craig Howarth We can’t if we want to keep our job...
@TheGuruStud4 жыл бұрын
@@jimpyre5038 Hahahahahahah, funny guy.
@jimpyre50384 жыл бұрын
TheGuruStud 🙄
@arjayla4 жыл бұрын
For the prosecution there are so many ways to present a lie without actually outright lying.
@than1112 жыл бұрын
All I can say is Wow! KZbin threw this video at me. This guy is amazing! Subscribed and thumbs up. This guy should set up a recommendation service for lawyers vetted by him, who can defend us if we get in a pickle. Kinda like Angie's list, except for people looking for lawyers. Great video......the intersection of philosophy, constitutional law, practical law, and real life. Ted
@icemancometh16212 жыл бұрын
There was an identical case severaljyears ago im which the tracker was placed by the FBI. The judge declined to allow charges against the target, but ordered him to return the tracker to the FBI.
@kazineverwind52674 жыл бұрын
Sneaking into someone's garage is an easy way to find yourself in a shallow ditch in the deep woods.
@location_florida4 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly
@dahveed2844 жыл бұрын
Most of these criminals don't have garages. They park their cars outside. So if you're going to be a criminal, you must always park in a secured garage. Then politicians will make garages illegal...
@rickhunt31834 жыл бұрын
I was raised in the country. Here we put the 3 s's on unwelcome and unpleasant visitors.
@Michael_000014 жыл бұрын
Shoot, shovel and shut up!
@katboatner93094 жыл бұрын
babyfarck Mcgeezazkz A co-worker of mine has been dealing with the consequences his actions over two years ago, when he was awakened by a strange noise in the wee hours of the night. Thinking the noise came from his garage, he went silently out his back door to investigate, grabbing a shovel nearby. Two dark figures rounded the corner just as he did the same - and reflexively he swung that shovel at his head with all his might. The other man took off running, apparently straight to the police station - where BOTH of them worked! Of course they charged the homeowner with assault on a LEO (they never ID’d themselves!) Nothing ever came of those charges, but he and his wife have been harassed by both county and municipal officers ever since. Not fair, but he is looking for employment far away from our area, hoping to relocate his family “out of sight” and hopefully out of mind.
@danfletcher714 жыл бұрын
I would love to see judges who sign off on these bogus warrants held accountable.
@michaelthearchangel85084 жыл бұрын
Start handing out the death penalty to these judges and I guarantee it will stop quickly.
@DHFlip184 жыл бұрын
Ok maybe death sentences are a bit much here, if you recall drugs and a gun were in fact found in this P.O.S.' house, but clearly this was botched and unjust. Real justice would've had him convicted for the actual crimes he has committed (drugs and gun possession) while dismissing the bogus GPS theft charge.
@alexandermaier80934 жыл бұрын
@@DHFlip18 When you say POS, you're referring to the guy who was suspected of drug dealing initially? Or the cop who got a search warrant for "theft" and then violated someone's 4th amendment rights? Neither person is doing the right thing here, but one of them has an obligation to try to uphold the law and not manipulate it as they see fit.
@DHFlip184 жыл бұрын
@@alexandermaier8093 Initially I was referring to the drug dealer, though in this case the same term would apply to the cop. To be honest though, it always frustrated me that evidence could not be used against a criminal just because the it was obtained in a questionable manner. Like this case for instance: the drug dealer is clearly guilty of drug and gun possession; both are serious violations, but because this evidence wasn't collected properly it must likely won't be able to be used against him and he'll just walk free and clear. I'm not suggesting the 4th doesn't matter, one the contrary I'm a firm believer, but there are times I wish common sense would apply instead.
@YukonDelta-hb2oy4 жыл бұрын
@@DHFlip18 , protecting the rights of one, protects the right of us all in the long run...
@streetcop157 Жыл бұрын
A local agency put one on a guys car. He denied finding it but when the battery died it appeared to be attached to a westbound train…
@meganmaki8489 Жыл бұрын
A question. I'm no lawyer, but if an unidentified person leaves an unidentifiable object on a person's property, how can it be theft if the property owner removes it? If someone leaves a cell phone in a taxi, is it theft if the taxi driver moves the phone to a lost and found? If a person purchases a home and later finds a can of money in the yard, they didn't steal the money? The money was there. If a person purchased a car that, unknown to them contained a tracker, the tracker would belong to them. If you throw away an item, on the ground, or hopefully in the trash, it no longer belongs to you and can be recovered by the authorities or presumably someone else. By the same standard, would this be theft? Another thought. Does this mean, if some unknown person sets up a camera in your yard or in your home, pointed at your bedroom or bathroom, would it be theft if you removed it? This is a crazy expansion of property rights.
@ncdogg4254 жыл бұрын
I think what the craziest part was he found the tracker and still had drugs in his house.
@jennifurzoe13024 жыл бұрын
Ya think common sense would've showed up and helped in here somewhere.
@ralphparker4 жыл бұрын
You would think, hey they are on to me. Get someone else to drive my car while I clean up my property.
@jukeofearl4 жыл бұрын
Mann Down No shit!!!
@oldschoolman14444 жыл бұрын
Meth heads aren't the sharpest tool in the shed! I would have stuck it to a semi at a truck stop.
@WayTruthLife21004 жыл бұрын
It's possible he DID clean up his home and barn [to the best he could remember]. I've known someone involved in similar activities. After this person quit such activities, he found stashes here and there, which he long forgot about. This happens all of the time, especially when an unexpected visitor comes to visit and had to find a quick location to hide his goods [not so goods]. Just my 2 ¢'s.
@MrBA8124 жыл бұрын
My vehicle belongs to me . If they don’t want me smashing their gps tracker don’t put it on my property.
@jhr71903 жыл бұрын
Always use an EMF detector, only $15. Better yet, put it on a car after following them home from the employee-parking-lot at the local courthouse...a judge or prosecutor may get tracked. Tell police you'd like investigation on why the prosecutor, clerk, or other stole it from you!! And that you'll get FBI to investigation local thieves being protected by corrupt police, if they'd prosecute you, but not local "old boys network VIP's" for the same set of circumstances.
@johntracy723 жыл бұрын
It's called trespassing.
@olgamiller2163 жыл бұрын
Or indulge in a fender bender... but if you can pry it off, then I say, pry it open & loosen some wires.
@sjuas6903 жыл бұрын
@@olgamiller216 A few seconds in the microwave should do the trick.
@gorgeousdzastr3 жыл бұрын
The "vehicle" you bought with Federal Reserve Notes? Then technically it's not yours. Stop paying the taxes and then tell me you own it. Is it not written "Jesus asked “Who's image and inscription are on the coin?” The answer? “Caesar's”. Jesus then tells them to “Pay back Caesar's things to Caesar.”? They are "DEAD" entities". Living can not OWN anything dead. (necrophilia) Yea it gets that deep.
@TranquilityAcres Жыл бұрын
Isn't it "a thing" where they're used by criminals to follow someone back to their house to later come rob them? If I found one, I'd take it off and watch for a possible home intrusion. I didn't hear about this precedent mentioned.
@deydraniadiancecht82988 ай бұрын
I bought a 2013 Nissan Morano that used to be a rental car. I found an antenna wire leading up inside the panel between the driver's side window and the windshield, along the top of the "ceiling" and into an antenna module mounted behind my rear view mirror. I took it apart, looked up the part number of the module, and verified that it was indeed an antenna module. Being an electronics tech helped. It was easy to see what this was. I honestly don't know if it was a GPS or not, but there is no reason for my car to be talking to anyone. I removed the device and cut the antenna wire as close to my dash as possible.
@wizardsuth3 ай бұрын
It was probably there to enable OnStar or a similar service that makes it easy to get help if you're stranded or in an accident.
@deydraniadiancecht82983 ай бұрын
@@wizardsuth i looked up the part number on the antenna's circuit board and it came up as a GPS antenna. The cable ran along the top of the cabin down under the dash. That's as far as I traced it before cutting it.
@electronicsNmore4 жыл бұрын
When I hear cases like this, it reminds me of how corrupt our country is.
@MrJaxparadize4 жыл бұрын
electronicsNmore, how corrupt people are, you mean. It’s not fair to the people in the country that do good to be placed in that statement. I get what you’re saying, and we do need to weed out this corruption, but we honestly can’t say it’s “the country”, because you and I know there are reasonable people here too, otherwise the country wouldn’t be where it is today. We got somewhere being honorable... if we can bring it all back, we can do more good! I’m with you that corruption must be stopped, but I can’t blame the whole country or the WHOLE system (some have too many loopholes), because there will always be those that want to bring it down for delusional reasons.
@electronicsNmore4 жыл бұрын
Corruption rules.
@bergmanoswell8794 жыл бұрын
Our country is so corrupt, that most of the corrupt people don’t realize they are corrupt. The corruption is just how things are done, how hey were trained to do things.
@kevingene164 жыл бұрын
Yeah you probably signed away your constitutional rights at the DMV .you told them you were a US resident instead of residing in America .make America great again and tell the US to f*** off
@glock9074 жыл бұрын
electronicsNmore our country is not corrupt, only some individuals . Your hatred is mis directed. Stop hating the greatest nation ever to exist,
@rouninpanda63184 жыл бұрын
"You're under no obligation to leave the device on your car, BUT if you take it off it's theft". That statement is contradictory.
@CarrieGerenScogginsOfficial3 жыл бұрын
The Tracker can only remain 28 days, by Federal Supreme Court ruling, and the tax records show how long it has been on the vehicle. Do no remove it, have an attorney sweep the vehicle, find it, and file suit. The longer it has been on it, the more money you will get in punitive damages. The law enforcement also can not leave 'On Star' on the vehicle, and use it as a tracker, as stated in the Fed Sup Ct. Do remove it, but first have an attorney document it, pull the tax records to prove how long it has been on the vehicle, then file suit. Again, no law enforcement agency can leave a GPS tracker on one's vehicle over 28 days. Noting that the Patriot Act 1 & 2 retired, a warrant is required, and this also helps to date how long, that they have left it on their vehicle.
@CarrieGerenScogginsOfficial3 жыл бұрын
@BobMealing, I took an illegal wire tap up to the prosecutor's office and handed it in to him... Angry at my civil rights having been violated for so long, 30+ yrs. -- The Tracker can only remain 28 days, by Federal Supreme Court ruling, and the tax records show how long it has been on the vehicle. Do no remove it, have an attorney sweep the vehicle, find it, and file suit. The longer it has been on it, the more money you will get in punitive damages. The law enforcement also can not leave 'On Star' on the vehicle, and use it as a tracker, as stated in the Fed Sup Ct. Do remove it, but first have an attorney document it, pull the tax records to prove how long it has been on the vehicle, then file suit. Again, no law enforcement agency can leave a GPS tracker on one's vehicle over 28 days. Noting that the Patriot Act 1 & 2 retired, a warrant is required, and this also helps to date how long, that they have left it on their vehicle.
@bonashiquandapropiciasmith46543 жыл бұрын
@Clarence Kayser google (or duckduckgo...) for "de-googling your phone" to even reverse THAT corporate (and cooperative with Biden's corrupt intel agencies) tracking device.
@jasoncentore18303 жыл бұрын
Hey if they want to play that way, mail the government our payment books
@jasoncentore18303 жыл бұрын
@Clarence Kayser been burned by OnStar in 2010, my own Caddy called the Cops on me
@AldoSchmedack Жыл бұрын
Abandoned property! Trash left at one's property. In fact that they did so they should be held liable for illegal dumping.
@justkelly69927 ай бұрын
The simple answer in the future is to remove the device keeping it in the car and driving to the police station nearest. Take it inside to the reception desk and say I found this under my car in my driveway and it is not mine. It has no name on it so I am turning into the lost and found for you to hold for the owner. The statement it was found on the ground under the car relieves the car owner of being charged with removing it and by giving it back to the police and getting a receipt for it you are stopping them dead in their tracks from using it as a basis for further exploration and warrant applications. Put it back in their hands and say "Caught you" without legal risk.
@andrewallen95374 жыл бұрын
If someone finds a gps device on their car how are they going to know if its the cops or some serial killer tracking them?
@Paul-gz5dp4 жыл бұрын
Also how are you going to know if it is a serial killer by night that is a police officer by day.
@andrewallen95374 жыл бұрын
true,could be a golden state killer type.
@justcubbin4 жыл бұрын
Serial killer and cop is redundant.
@billdougan40224 жыл бұрын
reattach it to a long haul tractor trailer.
@marshallallensmith4 жыл бұрын
If you also find a machete-wielding psycho in the backseat then you will know it is a serial killer.
@t04v73 жыл бұрын
George Orwell in 2020: “I tried to warn you.”
@brentfarvors1923 жыл бұрын
George Orwell in 1984; Literally did warn us; "Don't let it happen"
@ClockworkGearhead3 жыл бұрын
Politicians: We used your book as a manual.
@calbob7503 жыл бұрын
1984 was prologue to an unimaginable nightmare fueled by corporate greed and government incompetence.
@JohnThomas-lr9ec3 жыл бұрын
You forgot brave new world and animal farm. I have my grandchildren read these three. When asked why, answer we are living them.
@Gadget03437 ай бұрын
I agree 100%. I have heard of the Feds putting trackers on aircraft, but they had a notice on it. If an A&P mechanic found it doing maintenance or required inspections found it, they are required to leave it in place and not inform the aircraft owner. I know of one where a guy bought the plane from an action where the plane was seized and later sold by the government and the new owner was having the required inspections done to bring the aircraft airworthy, so it was clear that it should have been removed. The trouble was it was installed in such a way to cause a hazard and the mechanic was conflicted about it and called the Feds and could not get any direction and yet he could not sign off the plane was airworthy because of it and could not inform the new owner. What a mess. In the case you mentioned, I think the police should have caulked it up as a loss. Theft is a specific intent crime. There was no intent to commit a crime by removing a tracking device the vehicle owner did not authorize its installation. Lots of finance companies and so on install tracking devices and if you bought a used car and found one on there thinking it was from the original purchase and financing, there is nothing wrong with removing it. Why would you have to assume it was placed by the government by court order??????? Crazy.
@anthonybell24447 ай бұрын
My question Steve is 'If the police get a warrant to tap your phones: cell, home phone or laptop lines, and you stop using them because you might suspect a wiretap, or you destroy your phone or cut the phone wires to your house, buy a burner phone: have you then obstructed a investigation? Can they now search you house, car, property, or business because the electronic devices is no longer sending requested data, have been destroyed or have been removed from your person?
@kennethjmurphy67253 жыл бұрын
"It is better that even a guilty man should go free than that an innocent man be unjustly punished" Thomas Jefferson
@davepaquette97553 жыл бұрын
Those were better days
@algrayson89653 жыл бұрын
Ruling cadree: "No one is innocent."
@isaiahwelch80663 жыл бұрын
Actually, the quote is "I would rather a thousand guilty men go free, than one innocent man convicted." That was said by John Addams, when he defended the British troops after the Boston Massacre in 1774.
@jmichaelramirez25103 жыл бұрын
Reality is "a law has been broken, someone MUST BE PUNISHED!"
@mechanoid57393 жыл бұрын
@@jmichaelramirez2510 Someone....not neccessarily the right one!
@jawa63062 жыл бұрын
There is a rise of predators using tracking devices, especially air tags and the like, to follow the movements and daily habits of their potential victims. Anything that would have set a legal precedent requiring a person to leave a device on their car on the chance that it *might* belong to law enforcement would have been dangerous indeed.
@DeusExAstra2 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@mattc35812 жыл бұрын
Indeed, what might have been fun is to park up somewhere out of the way, take it off and drop it in a layby before driving on a little way then calling bomb disposal and telling them something fell off your car and you think it might have been a bomb. If you're lucky they'll controlled explosion it, telling the police to go talk to bomb disposal about what happened to the thing on your car would be priceless.
@warrenpuckett4203 Жыл бұрын
Put it on a cop's personal car.
@cericat Жыл бұрын
Cops misusing department resources to stalk people has also bee a thing for decades. Yeah, I'd be ripping it off and leaving it on the kerb way away from home.
@flinch622 Жыл бұрын
Right you are. Used to be... would be burglars had to case a neighborhood. With an air tag [or similar device] they can go home, play video games and look at the vehicle movement logs a week later to determine repeatable/common time frames of absence.
@rberkar6669 Жыл бұрын
There should be no statute of limitations for police or prosecutors lying in court. Or if there must be one, it should start after the person is cleared and be 10 years or more.
@tabcobra Жыл бұрын
Several years ago I bought a used truck from a major dealership. I was installing some accessories and noticed a wire coming out of the fuse box. I then opened the fuse box and found a tracker. I removed it and put it out with the trash.
@ursirius48784 жыл бұрын
When you give up freedom for security, then you have niether.
@DS..694 жыл бұрын
Yeah, thats not what Franklins famous saying meant.
@aleksfoxtrot80444 жыл бұрын
@@DS..69 those who would give up essential liberty for a little temporary security deserve neither liberty nor security... Then what did he mean?
@DS..694 жыл бұрын
@@aleksfoxtrot8044 Look it up. You have the means.
@aleksfoxtrot80444 жыл бұрын
@@DS..69 no. You presented an argument, dont be lazy. Back it up.
@DS..694 жыл бұрын
@@aleksfoxtrot8044 Don't have to. Others have done it more eloquently then I ever could. 👈👮♂️👈
@pedrowhack-a-mole67864 жыл бұрын
The anonymity of the device should be reason enough to be able to remove it and dispose of it.
@LaurentiusTriarius Жыл бұрын
I'd assume that someone coming to my property in the middle of the night to put a tracker on our cars would be doing it for nefarious purposes.
@Jimmy-n9dАй бұрын
I found a “tracker” on my Ram Trx (Hellcat) which was believed to be put there by car thieves in order to steal it at a later date. I ripped it off immediately/took a hammer to it. If law enforcement installs a tracker on a vehicle and there are no markings on device indicating this, how would an individual know it was not someone like a car thief looking to track the car to steal it!
@rickmorgan39303 жыл бұрын
Law Enforcement in the US seems to be on a constant crusade to deprive the citizenry of our rights as laid out in the Constitution. We are truly and desperately in need of law enforcement reform.
@robertsnead68442 жыл бұрын
Most of my encounters with LEO'S has gone one of 2 ways. I remind them of their OATHS OF OFFICE and if they won't uphold their OATHS then they must remove the weapons belt badge and Blouse because they are nothing more than DOMESTIC TERRORISTS. Most walk away and leave me alone. Those very few bad LEO'S suddenly start hearing dispatch yell at them that they are stepping on my Constitutional rights by abuse of AUTHORITY under the color of the law. Always video the situation and call dispatch before the LEO starts talking so that they record the incident and can question the magistrate as necessary if they are unfamiliar with a law you just quoted!
@uzlonewolf2 жыл бұрын
@Wagner PD Stop projecting. Why do you right-wingnuts hate freedom so much?
@jackschwartz17832 жыл бұрын
That's how they train them today. You see, buried Deep in the Patriot Act is the suspension of the Constitution AND the Bill of Rights. So you can say that, according to the Constitution, the Patriot Act is unconstitutional and therefore unenforceable AND all our elected officials AND Law Enforcement AND Government Agents ie FBI CIA NSA etc are Traitors. OR You just say Oh Well, We're scre wed. Take Care All
@danielslocum7169 Жыл бұрын
we need reform from top to bottom; the police being the bottom;the legislatures being the top; courts being in between.
@patrickbodine1300 Жыл бұрын
It is part of their plan to control the populace.
@anthonynelson91364 жыл бұрын
When I lived in a far northern state I found that the police had gifted me with a tracker on my car and it ended up going across the Canadian border on an over the road truck.
@russnurse2b8074 жыл бұрын
That's probably what I would do with it.
@nathandean16873 жыл бұрын
dang that wouldve been fun for those cops trying to retrive it.
@richardbeckenbaugh18053 жыл бұрын
That is exactly what the US Supreme Court ruled. They place it on your car, they have "gifted" it to you. It is your property, not theirs, to do with as you please. The police can't claim theft as it is no longer their property.
@TheFishingPilot8 ай бұрын
If marked as "Property of ....", drive to their office and say "here, you can have it back" and video the exchange.
@darin7220Ай бұрын
LOL. I like the idea of moving the tracker to another vehicle, like a commercial, long-haul truck.
@darrellpickering85353 жыл бұрын
Neighbor bought a used car & while changing oil found a tracker. He wasn't sure what it was at 1st & when he found out took it off. The county sheriff said he could've gotten into trouble. His reply was bring it on!
@rosemariehogan12622 жыл бұрын
I like your neighbor!
@Normal18552 жыл бұрын
Tell the sheriff, good luck with that. Arrest him for trespassing, tampering, and invasion of privacy.
@johntracy722 жыл бұрын
@@Normal1855 and remind him about the next election.
@RealPackCat2 жыл бұрын
Bring it on biches
@AldoSchmedack Жыл бұрын
Take it to the local and other news around election time.
@never2late4543 жыл бұрын
I've been though this situation and was told by my attorney it's illegal to remove one I had found on my vehicle that a private investigator put on it. I took it off and put it on a semi trailer.
@seabreezeblank15132 жыл бұрын
That's insane you don't need to provide your stalker with your location
@BigDaddy-yp4mi2 жыл бұрын
It's NOT illegal to remove it. It's illegal to put one on a vehicle YOU don't own. If you wife was on the title with you to the vehicle, that's the only person outside of law enforcement who can legally put a tracking device on your vehicle. Source: GF had a stalker that harrassed us over a 5 state area and talked to a lot of lawyers and DA's. Circa 2014-2015
@notjohn4392 жыл бұрын
Your attorney is wrong. It's definitely not illegal to remove a tracker a PI out on your vehicle.
@Normal18552 жыл бұрын
Then you need a new attorney. I would remove it.
@benx62642 жыл бұрын
not illegal to remove it, the illegal part came when you put it on someone else's vehicle
@destinywilliams801 Жыл бұрын
Here is an idea, if they place it on say your bumper wrap(the pretty painted part that's plastic) what's to say it wasn't scuffed so it was removed and replaced with said tracker still attached and is now in a shop, junkyard, trash or corner of the garage?
@daphneraven6745 Жыл бұрын
If I found something like that on a car that I use, I would assume that it was my creepy, abusive ex. My first course of action would be to remove it and stick it on the back of a police vehicle. But since in this case, it probably came from the police, I would consider that to be returned property, Making sure that I’ve videoed it to document its journey.
@pjp_renaissance3 жыл бұрын
What really bugs me is that there is an obvious lack of mens rea in removing a suspicious object from your property. The police are attributing malicious intent to an otherwise natural reaction.
@kennethbowden41293 жыл бұрын
Call the bomb squad for a suspicious box on your car while parked in a crowded area.
@jwar21633 жыл бұрын
Sound like a sound plan. That way the police themselves remove the device.
@jadedandbitter3 жыл бұрын
Better yet wait for a court date and call it in parked next to the courthouse. I wonder how happy the judges who had to drop everything and evacuate the building for hours would be with the police when they found out it was a tracker
@OrdenJust2 жыл бұрын
Maybe not a good idea. The bomb squad might perform a controlled detonation of the device while it is in place. For public safety of course.
@jadedandbitter2 жыл бұрын
@@OrdenJust no, theyd want to disarm it for evidence, carbombs are almost always associated with organized crime
@matthewotremba92302 жыл бұрын
Haaaaaaaacough Brilliant
@lunarpathwaygames8671 Жыл бұрын
Concerning the purpose of the tracker, a tracker does not track what it is stuck to, it tracks its own location, so the use of the device was not technically lost to the police until it no longer broadcasted.
@Night_Hawk_475 Жыл бұрын
If I found a tracker, I wouldn't leave it at my house. There' a lot of really messed up people out there, and while it's unlikely to ever impact me personally, I believe it's good advice to not let someone who you don't know see your home address if you have the potential ability to deny them that information still. (Who knows how long the tracker has been on the car - maybe it got put there today/yesterday and tossing it now could mean they don't know where your address is). Think of a stalker who saw you at work, came back a few times to figure out which car was yours, and then sticks an airtag/tracker on it. In general, if law enforcement proactively choose to perform actions without identifying themselves or their property clearly to you, then I believe it is absolutely correct to be able to treat them and their property the same as if any ol' random stranger/stalker was doing it instead. The same applies for no-knock warrants. Civilians protecting themselves from unknown armed intruders are reacting on instinct based on the information available to them (or the lack of information available) and should not be considered criminals. If police want special legal protections/abilities then they should identify themselves as police.
@robertlitwack62823 жыл бұрын
Retired NJ Attorney here. Somehow bumped into your channel and am enjoying the hell out of your practical approach and acknowledgment that litigation is incredibly costly, time consuming, and seldom if ever satisfying.
@j.settle64484 жыл бұрын
Coming from a cop of 18 years, if I found something attached to my car it is coming off.
@mist3rpink8384 жыл бұрын
POLICE are a joke, enforcing corporate/Vatican laws (admiralty law) on the public and not common law. You trick the public into your jurisdiction without their knowledge. Thats why POLICE is always spelt in ALL UPPERCASE otherwise known as Dog-Latin, a false fictional text. The same way you write tickets, in ALL UPPERCASE, you work off deceit and lies. You are the problem. Dog Latin "The Latin of illiterate persons; Latin words put together on the English grammatical system." - Blacks Law Dictionary.
@sethralavode79484 жыл бұрын
@mist 😂😂
@pootthatbak25784 жыл бұрын
My cousin was a lieutenant in a police dept. Cousin claimed disability, neurological problems, couldnt qualify at gun range, pain, numbness in hands. Damn internal affairs put a camera in her neighbors tree.
@olivertaylor47794 жыл бұрын
@@mist3rpink838 The main reason tickets are written in upper case is probably because peoples handwriting is so bad, I have seen writing in lowercase that was so bad you can't understand it .
@carljohnson46914 жыл бұрын
JavPaul Settmr, former police officer here, and I would do the same thing, especially when I was a cop.
@tfodthogtmfof7644 Жыл бұрын
If law enforcement could justify a warrant they could get location tracking data from the person’s cellphone. There is absolutely no logical reason or excuse for the invasion of privacy of placing a tracker on someone’s vehicle.
@johnwick-ii6il Жыл бұрын
THanks for the excellent content.
@stevenwilgus89824 жыл бұрын
I spent 2 years in Iraq and I guarantee you I find an object on my vehicle that I didn't put on there I'm calling the police and declaring an emergency and I'm going to claim that there is a bomb attached to my vehicle. And no I'm not joking and the slightest bit to try to be sensational. As I said I spent two years on Iraq and I've seen the results of bombs that are placed on vehicles. And if there are no markings on this thing And I feel stupid enough to take it off myself I will destroy it. That is insane to think that they can just arbitrarily attach a device to my vehicle. No this is not a good thing and yes it is difficult for the police but that's the nature of the beast: You have to prove that I have done a criminal act I don't have to prove that I'm not a criminal.
@jokerace82274 жыл бұрын
Yes, if I ever find one, I'll be calling 911 to report a possible explosive device is attached to my vehicle, and the bomb squad needs to come remove it. Good thinking.
@johnbyrne33464 жыл бұрын
Steven Wilgus did you know this device is on your car as well, Trump had it taken off air force one, it’s the size of a quarter, it’ll crash your car by computer at another location, this is what happened to micheal hastings and Paul Walker/RIP men
@rockspoon65284 жыл бұрын
Lived in Colombia, yep. I'd go through the same process.
@johndickerdown92254 жыл бұрын
@@johnbyrne3346 what?
@worldsgreatesttreasurehunt66984 жыл бұрын
I like your attitude.
@CharmsDad4 жыл бұрын
The very concept of a “confidential informant” flagrantly violates the 6th Amendment’s guarantee of a defendant’s right to confront witnesses.
@robertshope17854 жыл бұрын
Hey our President has the same problem. They just change it whisle blower.
@matthewgaines104 жыл бұрын
@CharmsDad Clearly, you're not a constitutional attorney. Your right to confront a witness against you applies to a court case. You don't have the right to confront witnesses in an investigation. It would be impossible to conduct undercover investigations if the target knows what everybody says about them.
@robertshope17854 жыл бұрын
Attorney no. Just working class stiff,. with some common sense.
@jfbeam4 жыл бұрын
@@matthewgaines10 True. But if it's used as evidence, you get to question the "witness" (i.e. "rat") [this is the whole point of witness protection: because these people MUST appear in court, they need new identities have any illusion of security.]
@CharmsDad4 жыл бұрын
Matthew Gaines Your ridiculous response makes it clear you have no clue regarding the Constitution, how court cases progress, or what type of legal challenges can be brought in court.
@Jay-bu6cd11 ай бұрын
Love the Tucker car up on the shelf (second from right for those that don't know. Oh, and watch the move Tucker with Jeff Bridges some time)
@mrdennischapman Жыл бұрын
Steve, as a former radio engineer I think I have a solution that is perfect. If it were me I would not remove the unit and be subject to theft. I would have left it there but covered it with an R.F. (Radio Frequency) shield that would have kept any radio signals from leaving the unit. That way, I have not "touched or modified" the tracking device. This idea would have worked even if the unit had an internal recorder because it would have been able to receive signals to indicate location. Do you think this would be a "legal work around"?
@SealofPerfection4 жыл бұрын
I have a serious problem with them being able to put one on someone's car in the first place.
@danmslacker67824 жыл бұрын
For real. If we put one on someone's car it would be felony stalking.
@bob7333334 жыл бұрын
@@ShelliLoop Someone who isn't a government thug?
@SuperJohn123544 жыл бұрын
What if it’s a known terrorist?
@JoseGonzalez-ew6zz4 жыл бұрын
S H the Royal we man
@mark80124 жыл бұрын
The point that is missing - a court order / warrant is necessary and a tracker cannot be just thrown on a car without judicial oversight A criminal involved in criminal behavior should be scared. If you’re not committing a crime - this will NEVER impact you
@andersmaidment3 жыл бұрын
Could really mess with them and be like "I found this device on my car and I don't know what it is. Send the bomb squad right away!"
@jasoncentore18303 жыл бұрын
Great idea!!! Nice way to make them look stupid, I would call when everyone is outside doing lawn work to put real dumbness on display
@kzeuz9993 жыл бұрын
And then the police refuse to send the Bomb squad because they know what it is.
@MNDashcam3 жыл бұрын
and if they show up with the bomb squad and find out it's just a GPS tracker the police will never admit to them putting it there. They will just say they are taking it for evidence and will investigate...
@chriswise12323 жыл бұрын
Great idea until they preemptively blow up the device, on your car.
@rugbyladice5743 жыл бұрын
@@chriswise1232 LMAO
@maragreentrees1405 Жыл бұрын
This story causes me anxiety because of calling it theft when removing an unidentified object from your car.
@Simmons23583 жыл бұрын
When you find someone’s bug, if you are smart, it becomes a “double agent” allowing one to feed the bug owner whatever crap one wants the bug owner to know. One can have all kinds of fun.
@ericcarabetta11613 жыл бұрын
He should just attach it to a cop car.
@archygrey90933 жыл бұрын
Someone else commented that you should just drive around and stop at a bunch of politicians houses for a few minutes each
@boataxe46053 жыл бұрын
@@archygrey9093 Genius! And you got a like for giving credit to the OP instead of just stealing it!
@alfredmartinez61663 жыл бұрын
So what if you sell the car?
@uruzzo3 жыл бұрын
If they put a bug in my house they sure would listen to a lot of old cowboy westerns and traveling Robert and not much else except my dogs barking.
@ArchAnge114 жыл бұрын
Installation without consent. Removal is perfectly legal.
@spikespa52083 жыл бұрын
Just leave it on your driveway. It's still on your property.
@PatrickKQ4HBD3 жыл бұрын
Only after you win in the courtroom.
@SAM-dm5qg4 ай бұрын
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@Debilitator47 Жыл бұрын
How do we know the confidential informants aren't lying or making stuff up? These informants, who are often offered a deal of immunity for their own crimes, are then informing on people with no questioning. The entire system is broken.
@Ashphinchtersayswhat4 жыл бұрын
possession is 9/10ths of the law...the police gave it to him as a gift...he removed it. its his property
@MrSeanVideos4 жыл бұрын
I love this argument.
@Ashphinchtersayswhat4 жыл бұрын
Sean Wilhelm it is crazy..me? i would stick it to a honey badger...or a rattle snake...something interesting...or stick it to their sergeants vehicle...
@allanrichardson14684 жыл бұрын
That’s a good point. If there is no property label on it, you may assume it’s a gift from an anonymous donor. Just like those advertisers who send junk mail with some cheap “gift” inside.
@dustinbrandel594 жыл бұрын
How could I be expected to abide by something I was never informed of? And a plain clothes officer!? He's lucky he didn't get shot!
@JoshSweetvale4 жыл бұрын
Ignorance of the law is no excuse.
@JoshSweetvale4 жыл бұрын
@@BlaubartMT I'm being snide. Next time I'll add a >.>
@williamengland98143 жыл бұрын
@@JoshSweetvale Does that pertain to the police as well sisnce many of them make up laws as they go along?
@JoshSweetvale3 жыл бұрын
@@williamengland9814 I did say I was being snide. The very phrase parodies itself.
@jdice6868 Жыл бұрын
It's old tech, but when they put a physical bug on a landline without informing you are you allowed to remove it if you found it? It's my phone. My car. Something attached to my property is forfeited by the owner in my opinion. That includes police unless the warrant is one where they may inform me and compel me to leave it like when one is compelled to wear an ankle monitor. That should also require the police to meet a higher evidentiary standard when requesting that I be compelled to allow such monitoring of my life.
@bencarignan27117 ай бұрын
Its very telling that law enforcement thinks they should be able to search your home to reclaim an unidentified object that you removed from your own vehicle. Shameless.
@socasack4 жыл бұрын
Does this mean I really do have to leave that f*cking tag on my mattress?
@troyrowland73444 жыл бұрын
Now that's funny
@samueladams17754 жыл бұрын
n00b the mattress police will be talking to you soon lol.
@stormy4394 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@maon75654 жыл бұрын
No, you need to learn to read.
@ERidesOn24 жыл бұрын
My ex wants to know if I'm having more sex then her.
@joatmon61324 жыл бұрын
I think they should rule that the subject was not served the search warrant and therefore had no obligation to leave it.
@beelzbb99764 жыл бұрын
The sneak and peek or delayed notification search warrant would do side step of that argument,You can't win in a crooked game.
@johnabbot15854 жыл бұрын
Cop's are stripping us of our rights, stomping them to the ground! And doing a little 💃 , knowing that the judge/policy makers or who the fk ever can get away with it. Fken pigs
@thesurvivalist.4 жыл бұрын
It’s like telling a slave they have to keep their shackles on! If I see a chance to escape, as a Soldier I have a duty to escape! Military Training!
@ithinkaboutthings90523 ай бұрын
It’s 2024 as I’m watching this video. I wonder if we might ever see any of the affidavits presented to the FISA court between, oh, 2015 and 2020.
@jhill4874Ай бұрын
What if you find audio and video surveillance bugs in your house?
@bouncerslabrealnature91433 жыл бұрын
Went to post office....was close to police station.... placed their own tracker on their code enforcement vehicle. Now they have a actual criminal to follow around. 🤔😂
@rogerbartels52232 жыл бұрын
PERFECT!!!
@BawkBawkBawk6662 жыл бұрын
Chiefs car. Or better yet mayor's car
@IggyStardust19674 жыл бұрын
And the bootlickers will be yelling "IF YOU HAVE NUFFIN TO HIDE..."
@Tamara-id1pe4 жыл бұрын
John Linde EXACTLY
@littleshepherdfarm21284 жыл бұрын
John Linde: Well, if YOU have nothing to hide... Sorry. Just had to throw a funny in there at you for saying it. LOL Too funny :)
@mikehackenschmidt87654 жыл бұрын
Where does one hide a NUFFIN anyway?
@DS..694 жыл бұрын
@@icecold9511 Nope, for our protection.
@DS..694 жыл бұрын
@@icecold9511 Come up with something better then that.
@jeromeb8107 Жыл бұрын
Doesn't it stand to say that if installed in or on a car without a contract with the car owner(like buy here pay here lots use) that it becomes part of the car and ownership of the device transfers like installation of a car stereo
@MegaPatients Жыл бұрын
Steve please help, I have a 2018 hi lux and want to find the gps on my car....can you help with locating it...thank you
@its11104 жыл бұрын
Theft? You stuck it to my car. You gave it to me! You have to serve the warrant.
@markmiller45034 жыл бұрын
Seems like the warrant was illegal and, those 7 felonies should be thrown out..
@Ragadeeandy4 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately I believe that every year we lose more and more of our “rights”
@danellwilliams63094 жыл бұрын
Because we do not DEMAND THEM. Because is easier and cheaper to cave inn and let them usurp our rights
@scorchedearth14514 жыл бұрын
They take your rights, and give you privileges.
@nightlightabcd4 жыл бұрын
But people don't care as long as it is described as FREEDOM! Many Americans will put up with anything if it called freedom!
@danellwilliams63094 жыл бұрын
@@scorchedearth1451 yep. But I guarantee if you just ask 5 of your neighbors, at least 3 won't have a clue as to what you are saying because they don't know the difference. Nor do they pull themselves away from entertainment(FBsports, tv,gaming) long enough to care.
@dudester8734 жыл бұрын
Whoah! whoah there! They absolutely need this *control* for YOUR own good ... and for YOUR own safety. Now, please ignore any black wireless modules we stick on your cars ... and soon homes; also ignore our surveillance drones. And also ignore those road towers with face-recognition cams that we are [experimentally] erecting in large cities near you ... yeah, those traffic intersection cams just didn't cut it for us.
@vorbach1 Жыл бұрын
If someone leaves a flyer under my windshield wiper, am I committing theft if I throw it away? Generally, such flyers have phone numbers on them. Am I obliged to call, or can I just throw it away?
@desertregionpoliceaccounta4549 Жыл бұрын
I remember studying this in college. Absolutely ridiculous