PS4 Pro - Before You Buy

The PS4 Pro touts 4K HD gaming thanks to more graphical horsepower. But is it really worth the upgrade? Jake Baldino takes a look.
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[@gameranxTV]

Not really a 'must buy' Also, hello PC folks.

[@zer0_0kidd21]

gameranx hi

[@unauthorizeddreamers6502]

gameranx same

[@djordjemirkovic8026]

lmao

[@kaipearson2465]

gameranx early daddi

[@jedimasterxanderbeason178]

gameranx keep up the great work man

[@jevawoah]

why do i always watch these just after buying things

[@verdisquoi6862]

Same here

[@myfrequencies1912]

We know we've been shafted, we just want to know how much.

[@RandomGamingMoments925]

@@myfrequencies1912 Unless you have a 2080ti you'll be shafted for sure. But the Pro is worth it for the exclusives and consistent performance throughout the gen

[@Thunderdroceon]

@kemuael innnnit

[@preiselbeerpie4555]

It's a great console tho

[@NeoWolves7]

I always keep seeing the "before you buy" on the thumbnail & i keep wondering whos face it really goes on it?

[@kalaintharkalainthar7744]

Its Jake's face

[@Himmyjewett]

Falcon

[@Noomagenial]

@Black Pilled Son shut up immature kid

[@teddybagginns6075]

No ones it’s a ghost

[@vergodagoat]

あなたはおそらくこれを翻訳しましたNoomagenial ➊ you got a my hero pfp you can’t be talking lmao

[@hashaamusman7773]

Why am I watching after I have purchased PS4 pro

[@yu5016]

Me to lol

[@100streetteam]

Same

[@dulezninjaman4788]

Same but I bought the ps4 pro as my first next gen from ps3 but only when I herd news that red dead redemption 2 was on the way

[@LeeLee-kl5rj]

Same I bought a PS4 pro and now I'm thinking like was it even a step I should have took as to the PS4 slim is their even a difference? I mean I had the original PS4 and it was messing up and be so loud and over heating and just annoying so I bought a PS4 pro. But it's more exspensive than a PS4 slim. I guess eaither way it's worth it. Bit now I question I could of just bought a regular one to do the same thing on. :/ Instead of spending 400 and not like 250..

[@Tonydognugget]

thats me

[@geoahd12]

That thumbnail made me laugh more than I should have.

[@VivyVidal]

I_Need_Pants yeah i like their thumbnails xD

[@OSMADO]

yup lol

[@topdogg1231]

I will give you pants

[@geoahd12]

NoahNeverSleeps

[@YungMono0]

i thought i was the only one

[@spades512]

this man is the real pro. every before you buy video he makes is professionally done and super easy to understand. good job jake

[@gameranxTV]

+spades512 thank you thank you thank you. I get a lot of hate and it's nice to hear this

[@jeremiahcunningham7293]

I like 👍

[@MrRager808]

I own a gaming PC. But I really want a ps4 for its exclusives. I think it's worth it.

[@arcangel6775]

Dan C Peasent!

[@MrRager808]

ArcAngel 67 you ain't shit

[@nep6814]

ArcAngel 67 How is he a peasant?

[@andrewhanson1848]

Yeah it’s worth it 2017 was amazing for PS4 and 2018 is even looking better I got a Pc and a PS4 pro best combo for a gamer

[@mrunknown7995]

POLAR BEAR GUCCI MINK Nope. Pcs suck to be honest. Only fpses should be played on pcs. The rest is better on consoles

[@kevinwells3864]

Love my PS4 Pro! And my Switch! Gaming life is good!

[@Vengeance_02]

Xbox is better

[@E4or16]

@Black Pilled Son At Least we Got Super Smash bros Sony kid your console got a SSB rip off!

[@souha1935]

The life is good for you not me

[@maugod6972]

@@Vengeance_02 with no exclusives and less teraflops lol

[@KO_Manic]

@Black Pilled Son no u

[@CrispyChrisss]

Just don't buy it at all.

[@llamaking1977]

Chris exactly just stick with you're regular ps4

[@lilmoist516]

Chris - PC Gaming For life

[@ellienyan]

Chris retro gaming was still the cheapest option tho. just look at that 59 $ a year just to play online. BS if u ask me. thr fucking moneywhore billionaires at microdong and sony

[@Destroyer1365]

PC Master Race all the way.

[@alien9279]

#XboxScorpioFTW Ya i know I'm a xbox fan boy and i shouldn't be here.

[@falme1275]

"I'll spare you the tech specs..." Me: "NOOO!!! I'm too lazy to look them up myself"

[@ndamulelotshikwela881]

its 2023, and i just came here to hear you guys praise my ps4 pro...its still a great console

[@Petronious]

Yeah, I've had my PS4 vanilla since launch and I'm not buying this to replace it. Never was sold on the idea of a new console this soon, even if it's a bridge console between gens. The thumbnail for this episode is funny :)

[@p90Killah]

Petronious If I had an og xbox one or ps4 I would not upgrade too. I keeping my xbox one s for the rest of this generation.

[@randybradley4151]

Until Scorpio comes out and Microsoft stops supporting the XBOX One within a year or two.

[@bleedpurpletcu23]

Randy Bradley it's not the vita or ps move. or psvr in the future

[@98maplestory]

Are you getting xbox next console called scorpio?

[@kevenmonteiro8511]

And i bought mine 1 year ago. Won't buy it all...

[@spam_1224]

Let's not have a console war in the comments K?

[@troyvang9104]

Tristan Billington this means LOVE & PEACE!!!

[@lilmoist516]

Tristan Billington - I'm sorry (JK i'm not) there Will be war on all console related videos.

[@noetie9948]

Tristan Billington you can go back to your mom's basement now

[@KapitanPazur1]

#PCMasterRace (What? Its not console war. Console war is betwen Xbox and PS. Everybody knows that PC is superior already. Thats why its called a console war not console and PC war.)

[@Callsign_Prophet]

Lets have a console war

[@imsufmadlin]

Who wants to buy this after PS5 came out.

[@tutu07777]

I just bought one lol. Cheap ass games

[@King_Flush]

@@tutu07777 Me too :) Payed $220 for it

[@AssassinsFear]

@@King_Flush is it worth it for $200 my coworker offered it to me

[@King_Flush]

@@AssassinsFear I would say it's worth it. Even if you hook it up to an older screen without 4K, you can just tell things are running more smoothly

[@AssassinsFear]

@@King_Flush I bought it from him today, it's great only thing is that the fan noise is horrible 😂 I took off the top and gave it a good ol dusting with a compressed air can but it's still really bad

[@jamesboosa123]

I was actually planning on getting my first PS4 here pretty soon so I'm glad I came across this video, I totally agree the price point is a little outrageous but I would much rather buy a brand new package than a used one and I really think this Pro version would pair great with my 4k television

[@morgantaylor7216]

To put it simply: if you already have a PS4 or Xbox one, there is no fucking point in getting better graphics or anything, since you'll be so wrapped up in whatever action shooter game ur playing that you won't even be able to tell the difference.

[@tomas7046]

MUG MUG FREEMAN There are great games with subpar graphics. Like Borderlands has cool graphics but not amazing, the thing is the game itself is amazing and so many ways that graphics mean nothing

[@daviddriscollservantofJesus]

umm ps4 only has a 1/4 of the fps of a good gaming pc

[@zachv4277]

> ur playing u'r = your'r = you are != ur (your). Just FYI.

[@scook2003]

Zach V to be fair I'm not sure you can criticise grammar when people are using abbreviations instead of words.

[@LatexGoddessleihanfoi]

if you can't even spell the abbreviation properly then yes i'd critisise it - if u can't , u r going to get critisised

[@chadkarruer2572]

You da man Jake!!! your before you buys are the FIRST reviews I ever watch, keep up all the hard work you clearly put into your videos, it shows man!

[@gameranxTV]

+Chad Karruer wow, thanks!

[@davydluan5]

+gameranx you say "wow, thanks!", but wont give him a thumbs up? xD

[@guthetanuki256]

lol facts

[@summercold721]

Who bought the PS4 pro and then watched this video? Because buying the pro version was a mistake

[@allywtf7789]

FBI • mhm just you

[@allywtf7789]

MakeSomeSpace hah 😂😂😂

[@kimseokjoo4076]

Mee

[@antonantonov2000]

I got the slim

[@yassinx6539]

Me

[@ThePrettyRican1]

I just preordered The Spiderman PS4 bundle. My orginal PS4 is old and has been making loud noises while running for some time now. I already figured it's time for a new one and Spidey is my favorite so it was a win win. I'm excited.

[@cheeselord4788]

ThePrettyRican1 I’m thinking of Buying a PS4 pro but. I dunno wether to get the Spider-Man one or not.Might get spiderman and Pes

[@keita26]

do you think its worth it tho to buy that bundle ? im thinking of buying it too but worried if ps5 is coming out sooner than i expected

[@qazyuiop-hj2qx]

Andy Leo ps5 will be released in 2021 atleast

[@MaikeruX88]

Just wait until your pro gets dusty. You thought a ps4 makes airplane noises. Just wait until the pro starts flying THAT SHIT IS EVEN LOUDER.

[@jababyjr.2791]

@@MaikeruX88 STFU hater

[@PaddyMcMe]

I'm a lifetime PC gamer, all the way back to 486 amazingly. For the first time ever I want a console, purely for the exclusives, I will probably get the PS4 Pro as it has more of the exclusive games I am interested in. Anybody else feeling that way?

[@imskrub5311]

Paddy Mc dont buy a 400-500 dollar system to just play a few games it not werf

[@TheArchoNils]

Paddy Mc You get the same games on both systems. Since the consoles this gen are like 2 gens behind Pc, you probably wouldn't even notice the differences (if you play in 4k on Pc, both Ps4s look pretty bad)

[@DunceCapSyndrome]

Bloodborne, Uncharted, God of war, Infamous, TLOU, ETC. Are definitely worth it.

[@gladebiddle1454]

Well lets say the system is $400. Now lets add the cost for having online. I'd say if you but the system you will have it for 5ish years. That's another $300. There are more games then anyone will need on pc already. I'm no saying consoles are bad. But as someone who has a ps4 for exclusives it is a purchase I regret. It has not been worth it for me, as there are more games releasing that I am interested in on my preferred platform then I will ever be able to play anyway.

[@PaddyMcMe]

Additional question, does Sony have a big catalog of digital versions of their PS3 games for download in their store?

[@shinyclaws6025]

I bought one! :D I didn't have a PS4 so I thought why not get the best one?

[@gaylordtv561]

ShinyClaws i habe bought the ps4 yesterday with two controllers and bf1 for 299 euros. I will wait for next ps and then i will sell this console! I think its not worth it, to buy a 4.5 ps4

[@shinyclaws6025]

+Efe Özulu if you've got the money buy a pro. but I recommend not selling your ps3 as sony still supports it. recommend getting ps plus if you don't have it already. cause they give away great AAA titles for ps3 like every other month.

[@Kingcloudii]

you say 'to fully understand the system' its x86, weve been using x86 for fucking 20 years on pc, theres nothing to learn, nothing is gonna improve, if anything, as devs get lazier itll even get worse

[@Kingcloudii]

Actually it's the PC versions of games that get rushed as the games are built for the lowest denominator which is consoles, optimisation isn't gonna change the fact that the revs are lazy, most only optimise up to making it run at 30 fps on consoles,the pa4 pro and Scorpio are just a waste of money, tbh so are the ps4 and xbox

[@shinyclaws6025]

+Efe Özulu good games

[@sarahlampkin7044]

This was super helpful for me :) thank you!

[@midorca2009]

did you bought a ps4 pro ? how was it ?

[@greekcommando454]

I remember buying my ps4 with my best cousin and when i setup he would come in the summer to play overwatch all day ... ah good times

[@Wharmbyyy]

Only recently have I found this channel and it's nice to see a realistic, frank gaming news team. All of the content you guys are producing at the moment is vibrant and interesting and I'm really enjoying it.

[@bissy97]

Just need enough money to build myself a gaming pc. That's all I need.

[@WalterRobles]

Anirban Biswas I did, now fuck off

[@goodinsrt8]

He did say to post comments if youre on the outside looking in....

[@NuttyFiber]

same.

[@jonathanwhitney1602]

Anirban Biswas what about the new god of war and horizon zero dawn both r ps4 exclusives

[@bbcatnight2509]

Daayuum you burned him/her/Apache so hard lol

[@shadeslayer5509]

I worked for my uncle all summer and finally have the money for a new console. I was wondering if i should get a Ps4 or Ps4 pro. (I am upgrading from a Ps3) 2017

[@Wade_Fucking_Wilson]

Shadeslayer So? What happened??

[@GOD_lovesyousomuch]

Nice.

[@justanmr2973]

I'm now in the same situation, I wanna know what happened

[@t-n-jayala6471]

Get the Pro bro 😎

[@Cellox36]

Pro! Got mine three weeks ago and it was a good decision. I`m still on an nine years old Full HD 1080p Sony Bravia, so of course, with that set up, upgrading from a base PS4 to the Pro isn`t like upgrading to an high end PC. But i can See and hear noticeable Changes. Slightly better but in every way smoother graphics, it runs wwwaaaayyy more silent, better loading times and it boots Up a lot faster, even the main menu is faster and doesn`t lag. If they had a good 4K TV with HDR, DolbyVision and what Not, i`d even Go as far and say i don`t need a PS5 for the next 2-3 years. But, that is just my experience and opinion

[@BilczaTheHedgehog]

The biggest improvement can be seen when you play at 1080p on some games that support 60fps, it is more stable than the non-pro model

[@pareliusNJ]

Lets say I won the next giveaway, would I still be able to pick a PS4 instead of PS4 Pro?

[@nooneknows7268]

EnderNJ You lost

[@pareliusNJ]

k ;-;

[@jexley1238]

EnderNJ would it matter?

[@coleanti-zilla8292]

EnderNJ They are almost the same and this is actually slightly and you can sel it extra when next gen consoles come out. It's not the best as in it's not that much a improvement, but it's still a great console.

[@Kdn_cs]

Sammy Salsa ikr

[@andersonm5889]

I get that gaming pc's outdo consoles. But consoles are just practical. I like videogames but don't spend that much time playing on my XB1. Never more than an hour a week. When I was 13 I played for hours on end, grew up and realized how much time I was wasting. I'm not interested in doing research or going the extra mile to build a gaming PC. I simply don't have the time to devote to that. I got more important shit to do. Consoles are easy to set up, and the games that they get are almost always optimized. I've also heard that PC players often have troube with newly released titles, performance-wise. I don't wanna have to deal with that shit. I don't wanna have to buy a wheeled platform for my big ass PC so I can move it and plug it in to the TV. The way I see it, there are more casual gamers than hardcore gamers, and those casual gamers prefer consoles for their practicality, which is why the videogame industry is mostly devoted to consoles. Casual gamers don't give a fuck about fps and graphics as long as the game runs fine, and don't want to worry about things like specs and technicalities, and don't give a shit about mods. I don't care if you can give your character bigger tits. Again, people like me simply don't have the time to set up a PC, and just wanna have fun for a couple hours every once in a while. For me the xbox is enough. It's just games. Fuck off with that PC master race nonsense. Get a life. Learn useful shit. Read books. Get a girlfriend. Master an instrument. Something.

[@lakishrajah7656]

Keep Toking if you have the time to write that entire paragraph you should get a life and a girlfriend lol

[@andersonm5889]

Coming from the loser who names his account after an anime character. That paragraph literally consists of a few thoughts, which took me maybe a little more than a minute to type out. It's called touch typing. Learned it so I could type out papers fast without the need to look at the keyboard. Useful when you have to type out long college papers. So unlike you, I don't type with my two index fingers and ask one finger permission before I press a key. That being said, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and I felt like putting mine out there. Looks like a long paragraph but it is in fact just a thought. If wanted to I could type out pages worth of opinions on any given video, and it wouldn't take up more than a few minutes of my time. That is the purpose of the comment section. Peace.

[@gladebiddle1454]

Well they do care, they just may not now about such things as frame rate etc. It directly impacts the gaming experience and your input. Consoles gamers typically have a larger threshold for low performance. They are use to 30fps with drops being the norm, and that's fine if they are still happy with there purchase. You misrepresent what pc is (all consoles are now are closed platform pcs using of the shelf parts) claiming it has to be large and then insult people who don't prefer your platform of choice. Ohh fan fact, as an xbox player you are playing on a custom version of windows 10. Guess you better throw that away as you don't want to well out that massive pc. (rolls eyes)

[@andersonm5889]

You're missing my point. I mentioned moving a PC to plug it in to a TV being annoying because it is. Most people don't keep their PC's in their living rooms. Do you? I said that to convey the practicality of a console. It is always in my living room plugged in to my flat screen, and I can just sit back and start playing with the touch of a button. That's what casual gamers want. I'm not trying to insult anyone for not playing on consoles. I insult people who think they're better than everybody else because they can see high definition nipples on their character's breasts. I don't care what people play on. I just expressed my opinion about the meaninglesness of the whole thing. To people like me (most people) it's just games. We do know about things like frame rate. Building a PC isn't rocket science. We just don't care enough. At least I don't. We don't pay attention to that shit. For people like us games are just something to kill time with when there is nothing else to do. Games are fun and there is nothing else to it. Nevermind framerate, as long as the game isn't choppy. We don't notice frame drops because we don't care enough to look for them. That's casual gamers. Then there are fanboys, who care so much about frame rate drops they can't fully enjoy the games they pay money for.

[@gladebiddle1454]

Keep Toking Play a game running at 15fps and you will care though. You don't have to be aware of the impact it is having, for it tyo be having an impact. It was your choice to put a console in your living room and not a pc. That isn't a pro for a console or pc, it is just where you have decided to put things. Your major issue is taking the pc master race stuff seriously, it is a joke, originates as a joke and remains a joke. Meant to be taken as such.

[@unknowncigar]

Just bought for black friday 299.99 I've had the destiny bundle since ps4 and it was time to upgrade. Cant wait to play on it.

[@bolttracks]

Got one and running through a good 1080p TV, and supersampling and boost mode are amazing. Love that the area of flickering pixels is finally over. Also, games load stupid fast and some older titles like Driveclub don't even seem to bother the Pro one bit as it doesn't even get hot during gameplay at all with those titles.

[@mrswifties4662]

1:40 that poor No Man's Sky, just gathering dust...

[@gameranxTV]

+JB Bosma it's VERY dusty

[@zigamravinec1207]

gameranx hey should I get ps4 slim and 3 games in package or buy ps4 pro and just have enough money for 1 game

[@gamera.8828]

why didn't they name it the ps4k

[@anthonybermudez4942]

cause its barley 4k lol sony can only lie so much

[@translatedbird1162]

Barely as in it depends on the game. You'll most often see upscaled-to-2160p rather than native. Even when you do get native, you'll be suffering from lower settings and the added resolution only harshly lets you see how bad the textures are. (I get your comment, you probably only questioned "barley" because it's supposed to be spelled differently I guess?)

[@anthonybermudez4942]

Translated Bird yea thanks lol ill kms today lmao

[@translatedbird1162]

Anthony Bermudez That's a very sad way to end things. Now, I wouldn't exactly encourage it, but if you were serious about suicide, you'd not be alive right now. If you live in an apartment, there's hundreds of quick ways... that I won't list. Point is that suicide is retarded, even as a joke.

[@gamera.8828]

well this conversation escalated quickly lol

[@jorelplay8738]

And I'm just sitting here playing God of War 2 on my ps3 :/

[@gameranxTV]

+Jorelplay not a bad thing.

[@BenRajan]

And I'm just here playing God of War on my ps2... what are the chances.

[@kadenjamesda7227]

And I'm playing Mario on my Nintendo DS...

[@PJLII69]

and I am playing Pacman on my Atari....lol

[@BeastGaming-tm8op]

And I still have the first playstation and showing of because I have an antique console! 😂😂😂😂

[@danielgurney1602]

Recently picked up the PS4 Pro and I’ve got to say I’m really impressed. The new look of the console is great and the graphics look great so far, although I’ve only had a little mess around on MLB The Show 18. Looking forward to playing a few more of the games that I’ve picked up. Nice video Gameranx/Jake.

[@NicoFlame9]

Thanks for the information

[@alban402]

I wont say it I wont say it Nope... PC MASTER RACE God dammit im sorry

[@lilmoist516]

alban402 - Don't be sorry... i'm all over the comments about it. Follow me child and spread the Word of The PC MASTER RACE

[@rrkwarmonger]

alban402 enjoy goat simulator on 4K and 60 fps

[@alban402]

rupin kanet Only thing i wont be enjoying acutally is PERSONA FUCKING FIVE I NEED THAT SHIT IN MY LIFE AND I CANT HAVE IT CAUSE CONSOLES EXIST AND KEEP THE GAMES FOR THEMSELVES AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[@gloop2701]

alban402 Yessssssss

[@dah9760]

alban402 It's true tho. :)

[@ScottAndNumbers]

And all these asshats giving the "just get a PC" comments are what show that the PC community is not as good anymore. If I didn't already have a PS4, I would be buying the Pro. But I can't even stream in 1080p, so 4K would just be a massive waste for me. I'll just be waiting for the next real new console. And I both think it is a good idea while also feeling it is a horrible idea. Now instead of focusing on improving what devs can do with the current consoles, they are now all going to have to make things work with both consoles which just hurts game development.

[@TragicMaster]

but.... you know..... just get a pc and stop beeing a filthy peasant.

[@ScottAndNumbers]

TragicMaster But... ya know... I have a PC and still buy consoles because both are good in their own ways. I can't play World of Final Fantasy or Last of Us or Uncharted or Final Fantasy XV on a PC now can I? And before you go the route of "you only buy consoles because your PC sucks." I have an i7-6700 and a 1070. My PC is just fine and dandy.

[@velkielle7587]

Scott Robbins Finally, someone who's above the bullshit pc/console wars.

[@Isebrand]

+ Scott Robbins Your presenting a subjective fact; what if i think Last of Us and Uncharted and Final Fantasy XV suck? But if you look at platform exclusives at an objective angle, PC has thousands more exclusives.

[@ScottAndNumbers]

Jashua.J H You do realize you are using that same "subjective fact." What if I have 0 care for any of those PC exclusives? The same reason I don't care for an XBOne because there are 0 exclusives I care for. But the main difference is I am still okay with people buying and playing on XBOnes while all the "PC Master Race" people seem to not want consoles around at all. The PC is a good gaming system. There are certain games, such as FPSs, that I only really play on PCs. But consoles have their place. Consoles are cheaper in the long run and also will always run the game that is created for it. Whether that game was created the day of launch or 10 years later. I am sure there are some games created 6 years ago on the PC that don't work without you doing extra stuff, if they work at all. I know Fallout 3 doesn't work unless you go through a process and download extra stuff.

[@tikendrasinghmehta2765]

Love your reviews Keep it up

[@IndieDenise]

I can't even afford a 4K tv.

[@1uhot426]

Indie Denise Walmart sells a 55 inch 4K tv for 800

[@1uhot426]

It is, it’s the TV that I watch in my bedroom and it looks amazing. Though the graphics on an Xbox one looks better then the PS4 on it.

[@danwopp2697]

PersonaG31 lol you say 800 life ke we can pull it out our assed

[@1uhot426]

Can’t pull it out ur ass but u can pull it out your check lol that’s when I was making 70,000 n could afford it. I also have a curved 4K in my living room with sound bar and subwoofer. It was a bundle I brought at HHgreg for 2,300.

[@1uhot426]

Oh well congrats, so do I in my living room. It’s on a 3 in 1 entertainment center mounted to the stand.

[@snowyy5009]

I'm a pc gamer ,I just want a console to play straight from the bed instead of going to the setup,all my friends have PS4 ,I want to play with them ,if I buy the pro can I still play with them (I am aware that with console you need a premium membership to play online )

[@geriott609]

SanSi TV I'm sure you'll enjoy it! Also you can buy PSVR for christmas if you want. I have it since october and its AWESOME!!

[@brunoferreira4049]

SanSi TV yes you can play with them

[@ken-yo2hz]

SanSi TV Of course, that is a stupid question.

[@snowyy5009]

Geri Ott i just checked it , it worth as much as a ps4...maybe later , first the ps itself

[@snowyy5009]

Bruno Ferreira okay ,thanks

[@GalanDestroyer]

Maaaaaan, I need that Samsung Q LED in my life right now... 75" of pure gaming bliss. Gotta keep rocking with my widdle 42" Insignia 720p Plasma 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@TapOut4three]

Thanks bro' it jelped me to decide which one to buy

[@nicko123454]

I'm upgrading my standard ps4 (500 gb, though with 2 tb ext hard drive) to a ps4 pro mainly because of performance. My current ps4 is beginning to struggle to run games at an satisfying fps rate and the rendering in games has generally become worse. Hasn't always been like this, but when new games i'm very excited about comes out, i just want to play them without these problems in order to enjoy them to the full extent.

[@burrangdangdang]

Thorsgaard Hows your ps4 pro treating you ? Im still on the fence

[@nicko123454]

Haven't bought it just yet. Needs some other things fixed first

[@uh.ohhh.]

Thorsgaard Did you end up buying one? Was thinking about trading my standard ps4 in for the pro too but don’t know if it’s worth it

[@nicko123454]

Byron Flood Sorry, still haven't bought it, but i definitely will. I think it will be worth it, as the original PS4 is really struggling to keep up good fps rates here and there without going and sounding nuts, as well as it being slow

[@tomread6877]

I have the standard PS4 and now I’m starting to realise some problems though bering in mind I have had the console since released date so it’s been worthy for some time but I realise that any game I download from ps store I’m facing serious overheating and it sounds like my PS is going to take flight, it’s fanning system is very loud, To the point friends in my party can hear my ps, this isn’t a complaint but ps Is a amazing console and Does last it’s time, just be careful where you Position your ps and always clear the dust out of Your ps, I’m no pro but mine has last This long, still all the games Work perfectly? Hopefully they stay That way, But with all honesty I’m not Interested in ps pro, it’s just Another way ps trying to grab money out of you or the same Console But more memory, I might be wrong but Ps is smart with its moves And could release Something out of the blue before we know it, its abit far fetched by we got ps vr, who knows what we got next, Before anyone knocks me, I’m no expert, I’m just going by personal experience, good luck for the ps players out there, hopefully it doesn’t come to an end

[@reprisler]

i think this is horse shit and i will not be buying one. saving up for a good PC is the better option.

[@hbizzle8037]

notunlikethewaves if you can keep up with the PC custom upgrade

[@0fficialdregs]

welcome to the promise land. also you can download auto live updaters depending on if the motherboard manufacturer you purchase from carry that feature

[@Anime3691]

The reason you'll want to buy consoles in the first place is due to exclusives.

[@ImranPangilinan]

notunlikethewaves we welcome your ascend. Be sure to check tom'shardware website or steam pc troubleshooting forums if you need any help with your PC

[@0fficialdregs]

you mean on nintendo and sony because xbox is slowly doing away with that and really there aren't any real exclusives when all games were made on the pc. its up to the devs to release the pc version or not

[@Kakadeen]

I wish PC gamers didn't shit on console players as much.

[@vali69]

Mutated Pickle were shitting on console players that dont research what they say and makes tgem look stupid to us... And dont forget among us there are the elists that fucking bring hate to everyone including other pc gamers... For example for not investing in a more expensive pc or just bragging abour his rig all day long... A real pc gamer is more neutral and dosent hate or shit on console gamers and only try to help who dosent what to understand pc is superior in some regards... And that there is a diffrence between 30 and 60 fps... And other stupid stuff some console players say...

[@CheeseDBD]

Shadow 144 pc fanbase is cancerous

[@meechg0stupid110]

Mutated Pickle pc gamers are fucking jokes

[@solojones1138]

My only issue with PC gamers is with the ones who treat people like they're morons who don't know the difference between PC and console graphics, when the reality is that most consoles players know, they just don't care. Or they don't care enough to spend the additional $1000 they'd need to spend to get a great gaming PC vs. a console. Also, ragging on people because they are poorer than you and can't buy a gaming PC is being a dick. And it's being a dick about something real (class issues), not just the hobby part of gaming. I say this as someone who has both a PS4 and a gaming PC. I just think platform wars are dumb. There are absolutely missteps by different companies you can and should make fun of and push back against (Xbox One's dumb DRM push at launch, Sim City's similar terrible always online stuff at launch on PC, Sony's baffling move not to include a 4k blu ray player even though we are years away from streaming 4k being anywhere near the bitrate, quality, and uncompressed sound of a 4k blu ray with HDR).... But when those fair comments turn into personal attacks on the players, that's some grade school nonsense. Everyone has different budgets, different control methods they like, and different exclusive games they prefer. That's it. None of these things make anyone a better or worse human or gamer. The only thing in platform wars that determines how cool a gamer you are is whether you are charitable and nice towards your fellow gamers with differing opinions. The only lowly idiots are those who behave like insecure grade school kids when it comes to defending their favorite platform or bashing someone else's. Period.

[@thezerfer9860]

sorry I can't hear you OVER MY NEEDLESS BRAGGING

[@nicolodondiego3290]

I have both pro and original model I connected these consoles into 4k tv and they have a big difference.

[@picofa]

Thank you, you gave me the answer I was looking for. I'm buying a ps4 for the first time ever and as you said the pro is the best option for a first time, not for an upgrade.

[@rdaniel4187]

thought it was gameplay not graphics that made a game.

[@LeoCharles]

thats why im sticking with the slim version. Plus i dont know a 4k. Still, it depends on people's preference. Some like graphics others gameplay

[@jokairou489]

All the elements make the game. There's no excuse for games (especially double and triple A) to stagnate or degrade overtime. Would you pay full price for a new game with great quality overall, but with mediocre sound and animations?

[@KazeKumo]

well yea. Undertale, stardew valley, and games like enter the gungeon? i do have witcher 3 tho, or other triple AAA titles. the thing is, gameplay matter the most, thats why we have reviews on steam. aside from that, i'm thinking to shift to PS4 eventho I've been in Steam since 2013. and has tons of titles in it. but then i realized buying games for ps4 made more sense for me now, there are many "GOOD" exclusives titles in ps4 like FF XV, which is my childhood was based on, final fantasy. and PC exclusive games no longer as good as ps4 exclusives, i barely see one now.

[@KazeKumo]

Pari Boss too late man. bought ps4 already, now playing titanfall 2, witcher 3 goty, ffxv, assassins creed unity and watch dogs 2. titanfall 2 really fkin awesome. bad thing ps4 can't browse flash player :(

[@zupina3000]

rdaniel4187 sometimes

[@Osama-KIN_TMZ01]

Actually I would recommend the Pro over the Slim just because of the power and ram upgrade, I didn't care much for it at first until my friend visited me and got his PS4 Slim with him, we both played RDR2... And i'll tell ya, his fucking PS4 became so god damn hot that the fan sounded like a jet engine 😂, my PS4 Pro was fairly quite, tho it did get a little louder after long hours of gameplay, but it never got as loud as my friend's PS4 Slim... Plus it did play most games with less if any frame drops, that's always a plus.

[@RandomGamingMoments925]

Really? I thought the slim was supposed to be much quieter than Pro. Glad I picked Pro then lol

[@c3467]

Max Payne yeah the slim is more quiet, but it depends on how many hours you play tho.

[@declanholmes6545]

I got a ps4 pro as of recent and its a massive upgrade from my standard ps4, the 1tb hard drive is a game changer

[@armandoc9514]

I had a standard PS4 and upgraded to a PS4 pro. Gamestop gave me 225 for my standard ps4 trade in (with power up membership) but my main reason was the 5G wifi!! The standard PS4 was only getting about 15 Mbs while my room mate with a PS4 slim was getting about 130 Mbs. Traded up and now I get sweet 130 Mbs for streaming and gaming.

[@c-zen890]

Whirrlinq Music $200?! Rip off. You can get the PS4 1TB Slim bundle for $250 new.

[@c-zen890]

Whirrlinq Music K 👌.. Hope he doesn't see this.

[@hasher22]

Why did you even upgrade? Just replace the HDD in the PS4 with a SSD.

[@Seattlefan77]

Whirling Music bought my pro for 200 five months ago :)

[@nicko123454]

I'm upgrading my standard ps4 (500 gb, though with 2 tb ext hard drive) to a ps4 pro mainly because of performance. My current ps4 is beginning to struggle to run games at an satisfying fps rate and the rendering in games has generally become worse. Hasn't always been like this, but when new games i'm very excited about comes out, i just want to play them without these problems in order to enjoy them to the full extent.

[@chefgamming4882]

Yep , pc masterrace still lose cause they wilhave to wait 'till 2100 to play red dead redemption 2

[@cornytheman]

Duytrucvu Vu or we can just watch a walktrough on yt :)

[@EYEGAIN]

Duytrucvu Vu So one game is going to make us lose even though we have over 1000? I got Dirt 3 for free on PC yesterday. An easy benefit with PC.

[@kennethjose7159]

Pewdiepie is their answer to that. They will just have to watch those guys playing while screaming at their monitors

[@chefgamming4882]

Do i need to name all exclusives that made or will make master race cry again? Horizon zero dawn can defeat 100000000 pc exclusives

[@firstclaims30]

Duytrucvu Vu I've never really cared about all these exclusives. You wait 3 years to get one anyways. And if the exclusive is good, I'll just buy a PS4 and play it. But at the end of the day, consoles don't come close to pc. Is not even a fair comparison anymore.

[@vihaan4665]

lets all take an oath and not start a war between PS, XB and PC.

[@imskrub5311]

Vihaan Saha A war would imply that all sides have a fighting chance, the is no war when PC is there. lol

[@vihaan4665]

Im Skrub 'PC master race ' member detected

[@itszxd]

Im Skrub you know there is war called MARKETING

[@RainTube]

What if we have technology from every side?

[@jediael9906]

I prefer pc but I like PS4 and I'm planning to buy one

[@thadflemens2819]

I bought a PS4 Slim on Black Friday for 199 plus 50 gift card at GameStop for my 7 yr old son. On Xmas day there was a problem with it, couldn't access memory something or other. Returned it, I had GS warranty where I don't have to send it off. They in return gave me the PS4 Pro....I didn't ask why just took it. Did I get a good deal? We did get a 4k tv at Costco.

[@undrtakr900]

Thad Flemens Yes, the PS4 Pro is more powerful than the PS4 Slim, which will give you a better framerate/resolution/graphics on your 4K TV.

[@violentnewworld]

I think you owe the customer rep services a blowie.

[@waynej9238]

@@violentnewworld or a reach around lmfao

[@jakemitchell9297]

The way you describe the look of the console and the controller tells me you never got a slim

[@fezziwig184]

@Amaze it's got all that

[@DantesInferno96]

Slim has 4k too right?

[@itsshawn1265]

@@DantesInferno96 no only the pro has 4k, slim just has a 1 rb and is slightly smaller than the regular PS4

[@DantesInferno96]

@@itsshawn1265 well thanks for the info. Though I'm not really impressed by ps4 pro's 4k

[@DantesInferno96]

@MrGhoulington I have tried it but it's not true 4k so I have issues there. Basically the pro finds it hard to maintain 30fps in majority of video games. If they could fix that, my opinion might change. I've played so many games and only about 3 to 4 third person AAA can maintain 30fps without severe dips.

[@MegaSasukesharingan2]

I am gonna stick to my 6 year old PC.

[@lilmoist516]

jonathan rosa - Good

[@MeatVision]

jonathan rosa word

[@terrorclaw1813]

Yeah, treat yourself to a nice budget CPU or GPU perhaps. Hell, that 6 year old PC probably out performs PS4 "pro" anyways. LMAO. Speaking of which. I was just looking. I just found a 1060 on amazon for $200. Console people literally have no excuse right now. www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-GeForce-Windforce-Graphics-GV-N1060WF2OC-3GD/dp/B01KQUDE2Y/ref=sr_1_13?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1478997198&sr=1-13&keywords=gtx+970

[@MeatVision]

Terrorclaw im running BF4 at a stable 120 frames in 1080p in my 7 year old PC. Consoles needs more power to beat PCs :/

[@jkahgdkjhafgsd]

+Sammy Salsa unlike consoles, you can watch youtube videos on a PC

[@shortwavelengths7713]

Just watched the last of us 2 trailer and I’ve never owned a PlayStation at all but I now want to but this just to play that game

[@ICON-11-]

I just got the ps4 pro about a month ago and absolutely love it!!! Never had the original ps4 but I'm currently running this console on a 70 inch 4k uhd full array screen equipped with hdr10 with a soundbar-sub set up and I'm absolutely blown away by the resolution output this thing has, games like horizon zero dawn is jaw dropping if you adjust your tv enhancements properly. Yes the downsides are things like no 4k blu-ray player but it streams movie apps in 4k if compatible. I have the star wars edition so it's a gloss finish unlike the original. And so far the initial load time for my newly purchased games are WAY quicker than my xbox one which will also be upgraded to the 4k version console. My final score to give in terms of form and function for the ps4 pro is a 9 out of 10. Worth every penny 👌

[@AGuyWhoPunkUMama]

thanks, man. you answered the question i had perfectly.

[@sadboiglizzy3000]

too late. already bought and it's awesome.

[@vanhalen4life1]

It's ps4 Lol there's no different

[@selimyetkin5664]

İ thnk this is the best time to buy PS4 pro and I did becouse I don't want to wait ps5 to get better over time maybe 2 years so after 2 years I will buy ps5 but for now best option is PS4 pro for me

[@zain12495]

that's true.. as for me, buying ps4 pro for the first time and my tv is HD ready. should i go for it as i had PS2 earlier or should i go for the slim? please help.

[@selimyetkin5664]

@@zain12495 just buy second hand PS4 pro it has got 2 time more powerfull than PS4 and u can use supersampling mode for games for your hd TV and it is worth to use also be sure about the cuh code I mean u should buy the last version of the PS4 pro mine is cuh_7216B

[@zain12495]

@@selimyetkin5664 thanks mate! in India there is 7208 model which has reduced fan noise.. would probably have to buy a new one as no one is selling their consoles at the moment! Thinking of not going with PS5 atm because of its Day 1 problems!

[@selimyetkin5664]

@@zain12495that version of ps4 is good reduce fan noise version that is great no problem just go and get that I bought it 1 week ago and playing god of war at 1080p TV and resolution mode on mate that looks fantastic ;) do not buy ps5 it needs time 2 years maybe than u can sell PS4 pro and buy the new better ps5 ;) this is the formul;)

[@evanlashlee5002]

I sold my old ps4 awhile back and I miss it so if I'm going to buy a ps4 again might as well get the best version

[@ayabulelatshotyana6432]

Thank you very much. This video was extremely helpful I almost sold my PS4 to upgrade to a PS4 pro.

[@KeithMyers2022]

Honestly I've got this just for spyro later this year

[@willieodea4941]

if you don't have a ps4 buy it, if you do skip it

[@lilmoist516]

spudplays - If you have a console... or not. Get a PC anywayS

[@DeadPhoenix86DP]

i bought a Ps4 Pro, and selling my Ps4 launch model.

[@Prime_Eejit]

Was thinking about it. But watching videos like this im starting to have second thoughts. I mean, its not a major upgrade it appears. And then i have to get myself a 4k tv. From what ive heard the new xbox will dominate the pro. But i want the ps4 games :D

[@gloop2701]

spudplays Or just buy a PC

[@madee5945]

Emil Wiklund You have to Think that its also faster and more Powerful than the normal ps4, and you'll have to get to choose your Own resolution to games as you cant in PS4

[@TheKid0309]

Bought the PS4 SpiderMan bundle with 1TB, love it!!! Games graphics and speed really enjoy it. Trying to get all the play out of it since it was announced that the PS4 is in its last phase giving way to the PS5 (late 2019-2020)

[@MrDraylove]

best honest advice yet. no sugar coat.

[@KR000SIS]

I'll just wait till the ps5 comes out before I hand my wallet to Sony and stick with my regular ps4

[@KR000SIS]

plus I don't have a 4k TV so it wouldn't even work

[@robc4066]

pigert 93 Someone thinks here

[@scottscott8123]

Plus I just bought mine a year ago, for Christmas.

[@nizkorlifahd493]

same here and i won't betray my current ps4 so quickly least one year or so might consider the upgrade let sony work out all the kinks in these launch pro consoles

[@trilfy]

I'm still on ps3 waiting for ps5. I'm the one not handing my wallet to Sony to pay-to-play online. So fuck ps4.

[@bassblaster505]

1:40 thought that was GTA 5 at first

[@theninjakiller9273]

same

[@liamparker0315]

Watch Dogs 2. Comes out on the 15th November. Can't wait!

[@some_one7975]

dude me too

[@devin245]

ItsYaBoiChadweeno I kind of disagree.. far cry 4, rainbow six siege and Rayman are all fantastic games, regardless of the 'downgrade' in visual graphics for the first 2

[@beastkey3392]

Same

[@rajsathwikkarampudi1907]

the trumbnail is amazing

[@donnakane9464]

Thanks this was helpful

[@west7236]

Me, just gets PS4 Pro to play Crash Bandicoot 😂😂

[@arcangel6775]

weston landon Me just get a pc

[@undrtakr900]

weston landon Hahaha some here! I bought a PS4 Pro a few days ago and Crash was the first game I downloaded to play.😄👍

[@bigboychris446]

weston landon gotta play in that Fur K

[@TheMagikalJazz]

It's on other platforms tho

[@taniarios6875]

weston landon I’m getting it for Spider-Man ps4

[@GamingCinematicsPH]

I decided to buy a PS4 slim with 3 games included $100 more cheaper rather than ps4 pro without games.. even though I own 4k tv I am loving my PS4 slim and I made the right decision

[@LadyChaos1992]

I've been debating between the 3 consoles as I have a 4k TV...how is the picture on your 4k TV with the slim?

[@timothyhart4124]

I just got an 4k tv but owned the ps4 slim before hand I'm trying to figure out if I should sell and buy a pro, is it really worth it atm!?

[@GamingCinematicsPH]

PS4 slim visuals in 4k I can say that it is really great and much cheaper

[@nc23jordan16]

The pro is definitely worth it if u have a 4k tv

[@snikers0601]

Well, i bought a ps4 2 days ago and i have a 4k tv. Today i'm returning it and buy a pro couse the grapich sucks on bf5

[@user-oq9yu8qu4p]

me and my dad went on a lookout for just a ps4. our last store was gamestop and they only had this one in stock so we had to get a ps4 pro. its getting delivered soon!

[@fahralyacoub8970]

The base ps4 is definitely showing some age now...

[@thestriker2529]

Reasons why I bought a console... I'm so depressed I don't bother getting out of bed...

[@translatedbird1162]

I actually used to work like that until I grew some demands and opted for a powerhouse PC that satisfied even my greatest needs...I still need better internet though.

[@Draclord35]

There is Steam link for that...

[@spacezeuzeu8747]

TheStriker252 or you spend days at work on a computer and just want to enjoy playing vg on your sofa...

[@gladebiddle1454]

Which remind me again, why can't a pc do that? I mean I did it yesterday.

[@edgarlarios4718]

Lol! Then don't get a vita! That remote play will keep you in bed all day!

[@KajmanX]

U bought new ps4 pro, and its very good. Graphich are so good even on 1080 tv, and i am very impressed. The only problem is fps, but it doesent matter so much. I am sattisfied.

[@KajmanX]

Andrei James Yes it has but no on all games.

[@leonardosaldana1635]

Excited for the Glacier White PS4 Pro Destiny 2 Bundle!!

[@danielsvab7299]

This popped up in my recommendations like 3 moths after I bought my Pro. KZbin is trying to make me think that it's not snitching.

nobody talk about the ps4 remote play outputting at 1080P... I like this feature, but the 720P resolution on the original is a bummer

[@lilmoist516]

Sébastien Grenier 1080? 720? How Petty

[@borndante7254]

Gabriel Kero That's what I'm saying.

[@TheSco415city]

i love it, gotta 4k hdr tv on the way

[@missrmkgamer9288]

I love your videos and your voice is really great too.

[@karva1a]

I really really want and feel like i need a ps4 pro

[@thegasworks9269]

PlayStation 4 life....

[@lilmoist516]

PC 4 Life....

[@jmoneysniper7372]

Wii U 4 Life? Anybody? Hello... OK then

[@TheWeeky]

naa fuk dat milenium old game bs

[@nvidiaGTX-ue7if]

@Gabriel Kero yea lifetime begging for ports and being insecure on consoles HA HA HA

[@Robzbzbz]

in short do not buy ...

[@lilmoist516]

dat Welson guy - Get a Nice Good PC

[@tisineverfear1490]

dat Welson guy or if you have the normal ps4, you can stick to it instead of upgrading it

[@santii381]

need a before you buy comparison between this pro and the new Xbox one x!!

[@gino7460]

Your camera is superb

[@duffysullivan2794]

For some reason back when it was called Neo I was thinking it would play all ps4 games better. I was thinking, finally all games will run at 60fps! Then it was revealed as the Pro and only games that are patched or developed specifically for it support the extra power. That killed my interest. Now I will just stick with my launch PS4 until there are some must play games out for it that take full advantage.

[@Kengaku212]

Duffy Sullivan this isn't the neo it's the PlayStation pro

[@Hurplol]

Are you stupid? The playstation pro used to be called the playstation neo.

[@Halkalooki]

Duffy Sullivan

[@blackbird3290]

boost mode changes that in the next update

[@chrisa7844]

Duffy Sullivan now most games are pro enhanced always buy a system a year later never at launch day

[@GeoffreySantos]

New to ps4 and i bought ps4 PRO ohyeah!

[@RevanJJ]

So glad I was patient. PS4 Pro 1TB Bundles will be $274.99 on Black Friday. Hopefully that’s everywhere, like Amazon, but I’ve only heard of Best Buy.

[@wookiesrave]

I just got the slim put a plug-in 2tb harddrive so I'm good to go already have a switch so best of both worlds

[@AlbertPuljos]

wookie one lol good choice dude, I went down the same path, stuck with my OG PS4, and got a Xbox one s, and soon Nintendo switch.

[@metrogamer4140]

Iam gonna buy ps4 pro for it's exclusive titles.

[@shawnmathews8898]

And more 3rd😁🤗👍👌😰

[@Vengeance_02]

No difference

[@garvgoyal2284]

I just watched the gameplay of tomb raider and forgot what he said!!!😭😠

[@sharkwaffle1582]

just a few days ago i played arkham on the ps3 and oh boy did i enjoy it so now im planning to get the ps4 pro for my birthday yaaaaaayyyyy

[@wingman-1977]

Picked one up last month (just to play exclusives digitally while I play multiplats on PC). It’s amazing that it’s still hard to find while the base PS4 (slim) is still easily found in stores. If the pro had a 4KUHD disc drive, the console would have been $500 (just like the XB1X).

[@CoinOpTV]

is the battery life any longer on the ps4 pro controller?

[@gameranxTV]

+CoinOpTV nope :(

[@melodicmetal3843]

gameranx what happen to the winner announcement? Nobody won a game this video

[@ashgrey808]

Just buy a slim with 1tb storage their like half the price plus i don't see the major difference since both support hdr and the fact that not all t.v,s and games support 4K

[@cobrass8033]

Not half the price. Slim 299. Pro 399

[@MajorKirrahe]

All I want is a higher frame-rate on the games I already play. I also figured that new releases will cater to the pro's specs more, and that the standard ps4 may begin to struggle with the newer releases? I don't know.

[@Yourguydraxler]

love the video. Make me wanna own a ps4.