PS5 Pro announcement faces backlash after $700 price reveal (excluding disc drive & vertical stand)

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[@YongYea]

That's $250 more expensive than the all digital PS5 slim and $200 more expensive than the PS5 slim with disc drive. It's even more absurd when you consider that the PS5 Pro is actually $810 if you purchase the disc drive and vertical stand not included in the $700 package. Oh, and they sneakily increased DualSense controller prices by a few dollars recently. They also didn't do themselves any favors by showing old games with graphical differences that are hardly noticeable during the presentation. PATREON: www.patreon.com/yongyea TWITTER: twitter.com/yongyea INSTAGRAM: instagram.com/yong_yea TIKTOK: www.tiktok.com/@yongyea TOP PATRONS [BIG BOSS] - Devon B [BOSS] - Gerardo Andrade - Michael Redmond - Phil [PRETTY LEGENDARY] - azalea

[@TK_Prod]

The bots could be worse, the PS5 pro price could be better

[@jondeiconic2552]

No thanks for me. No disk drive and pricey. Thank you next

[@vanholloman9918]

I was just briefly chatting with another twitter/X user about the prices of PS4. At least when it was first brought up like how the PS5 pro is now. Might want to mention something about that.

[@otherprisma7354]

@@YongYea You can trade in your og ps5 to get some credit store.

[@mobious01]

@@YongYea i will still get it just because is still cheaper than a gaming pc and the drive has never been an issue

[@smkks]

"Vertical stand sold separately" was the icing on the cake. They completely lost the plot.

[@greed-1914]

It feels like if you bought a big new TV, and they didn't include batteries for the remote. It's barely anything compared to the purchase price, and ought to be included

[@powerfulshammy]

​@@greed-1914They also forgot the wall mount.

[@DragonOfTheMortalKombat]

​@@greed-1914 they didn't give the remote lol.

[@excludedkratos]

We are going to sell you an overpriced, slightly powerful version of a game console that you already have without a stand, and you will love it! Lousy storage space, and no backward compatibility. Pay me!

[@skyuru]

They lost since the announcement of PS5 lol

[@raccoonofmotivation20]

700 dollars, 800 after tax, no disc drive Get a goddamn pc at that point

[@kevingame3198]

No Xbox better

[@mobious01]

Drive not needed and is still cheaper than a gaming pc

[@juuloveh]

@@kevingame3198With a Genshin pfp I can only surmise you’re baiting

[@TheRagnarokmech]

​@kevingame3198 console gaming is dead. Only Nintendo has a future and mainly in it's own country at best.

[@otherprisma7354]

A gaming pc cost a whole lot more.

[@Ryan1993uk]

Whole selling points of consoles over the years were they were an affordable easy alternative to PC gaming, but that price is just not worth it now...

[@MumboJumboZXC]

500 is the sweet spot, but they aren’t willing to take those losses on hardware sales when they keep having game flops that aren’t making up the difference

[@urazz7739]

@@MumboJumboZXC To be fair, with the games from consoles going onto PC, it kind of defeats the purpose of selling the consoles at a loss. The whole point of doing that was to get people to get into your games and such. At this point, you can get a PC that is better by a few hundred dollars and have the greater flexibility than what a console would have.

[@RazielTheUnborn]

​@@urazz7739No it doesn't. They make their profit on software. Putting the software on more platforms means they can KEEP selling the console at a launch. XBox does so because their software earnings outweighs anything from the hardware sales. PlayStation is huffing their own farts again.

[@Silamon2]

There have been a few points in the past where you could build an equal or better PC for the cost of a console. Still, it's been quite a while since that has been the case... Last several years equal level pc was a bit more expensive. But I'm quite sure I could match the ps5 pro for over 800 dollars.

[@jackaln9917]

Sony just want to get the money they lost on making Concord 😊

[@SteeltechPC]

Sony saw people paying $1200+ for scalped PS5's during COVID and wanted in on that action.

[@RaikenXion]

It is kinda those people's fault then, ALL just because it was considered "rare" at that point, something hard to get hold of, so they all paid the earth for PS5, just so they could say - "Look at me, I got one!" Mainstream people and consumerism are pathetic.

[@edselgreaves6503]

What's worse is that if scalpers buy the Pro, Sony is going to assume consumers bought it and declare the price a success. They will then mark up the PS6 price even higher.

[@TurtleChad1]

$700 with no disc drive, no stand, and only for slightly better looking grass physics is diabolical.

[@BrendanP]

$1000 in Canadian dollars 💀

[@mobious01]

No one needs the stand bro

[@ssj4922]

​@@mobious01its literal plastic my guy, it would've costed Sony less than a dollar to manufacturer that stop the cap

[@3rd_iimpact]

Your profile picture was my reaction to the price.

[@Jay-ch5xu]

No disc drive???? Damn.

[@598019001]

700$? for no disk drive? my only hope is that scalpers get destroyed by buying this out.

[@Dragonking1984]

No need for scalpers when Sony's already beat them to it.

[@chincemagnet]

I know, that would bring me immense joy

[@chincemagnet]

@@Dragonking1984ha, I wish. People still scalped 4090’s for well over $2000. If its availability is scarce, people will still pay for the scalped price if they want it badly enough.

[@ronaldcharan2705]

Would be some sweet revenge for the chaos they caused during the pandemic.

[@crystalwater505]

I doubt scalpers will even take the risk. They realize it probably won't even sell well at MSRP.

[@ssj4922]

$700 USD for a slightly less pixelated background is crazy😭

[@bronzin1445]

This is precisely why i migrated over to PC. Mind you, I’ve been a a PlayStation fanboy since the OG but Sony over the last few years have lost their damn minds. What they should have done was make the PS5 Pro the same price as the launch PS5 and just drop the latter’s price.

[@dark-cn9yq]

To be fair the KZbin live feed and KZbin compression probably made it less noticable

[@DarrenLucas-up6ki]

@@bronzin1445thank you

[@TheExecutorr]

@@bronzin1445 same, PS4 Pro was the last console I'll ever buy from them. The PS5 looked kind of cool when they annoucned it, but then it was just impossible to get one at a normal price for years to come, and when it was finally available I still saw no games to play on it so I didn't care anymore. And with this aannouncment I think I'll just stick to PC exclusively for the time being.

[@skyuru]

Not even compatible with the old PS games discs, sure i will spend like an id*ot 700+ bucks lol A console for "consumers" not for gamers.

[@fbi855]

“Vertical stand sold separately”. Sell the problem, sell the solution.

[@Vociferous]

Never thought the console wars would end with both sides shitting their pants

[@MysticSteve]

@@Vociferous 🤣🤣🤣

[@amano_s]

We can say that at this point, Nintendo won the war. 😂

[@artificial_S]

​@@amano_s PC actually

[@rotciv557]

Nintendo is preparing to lay it's member on the table...

[@GarrettEulett]

@amano_s Regardless of what anyone says about Nintendo, they're the guys who make the games I actually give a hoot about

[@ItsDatCajunStuff]

Increasing PS Plus by 35%, increasing the cost of controllers to $80, investing millions in a live service shooter no one wanted before canceling it after two weeks, and now a highly overpriced console that offers marginally better visuals. Sony's just been crushing it the past year.

[@ThomasTheTankEngine22]

Controllers are $80 now!? Holy shit

[@azmodanpc]

@@ThomasTheTankEngine22 And the pro controllers (not included in the PRO console) are 230 buckaroos.

[@thesavagegummybear7341]

⁠@@azmodanpcI’d never even DREAM of spending that much on a controller, that’s criminal.

[@ybagain3562]

Plus when you try to buy the regular ps5 disc version or digital version at a store it’s always sold out but now ps wants to pay 700$ 😭😭

[@joenitrate]

Cant believe this is the same company as "299" and "this is how you share your games on PS4"

[@Dairunt1]

This is Nintendo's time to drop a "399" and a "physical cartridge slot" being shown as a feature.

[@calussy8040]

​@@Dairunt1we already know that the successor to the Switch will be backwards compatible with Switch cartridges (I think from leaks) so it's already looking good for Nintendo.

[@stryker0ae]

Gotta make back those concord losses

[@dantube34]

It's not the same company. Just the same name.

[@gunnaraw]

299 USD, in September 1995, is 614 USD today adjusted for inflation.

[@infernas]

$700 for a miniscule graphical bump is nuts. 💀

[@mistkeyblade]

Sony has learned nothing from revealing the PS3 at 599 US Dollars during The Great Recession, and now revealing a PS5 Pro during inflation at $700

[@thenonexistinghero]

Dude the recession was 2008, PS3 came out in 2006.

[@kakashi1300]

They’re still selling the ps5 slim, unlike the ps3 where you actually have no other choice.

[@2psah2]

Crybaby

[@TeraunceFoaloke]

especially with Xbox's sick burn when they made an announcement after Sony.

[@AZBCDE]

Dude there’s the regular PS5 so calm down

[@Xayjohns]

To me, this is like "Rush Hour", when the kidnappers were asking for $50 million for Soo Yung and Chris Tucker says " $50 million dollars? Man, Who you think you kidnapped? Chelsea Clinton?".

[@michaelhoerr2468]

“You want any fives with that?”

[@Ok_Eul-Tae]

W comparison reference😂

[@TheLigon27]

at that price “ push the GD button, blow everybody up” 😂

[@dostoyevsky7319]

This little comment thread is the best thing to come from the ps5 pro Captain Diel: You destroyed half a city block! Carter: That block was already messed up. Captain Diel: And you lost a lot of evidence! Carter: We still got a little bit left.

[@Bryanneo1]

​@michaelhoerr2468 you mean fries? Lol pretty sure he says fries like at fast food

[@MysticSteve]

Nobody is paying 700 for a console with no vertical stand and no fucking disc drive, with all of that the total price is 800 dollars, this is fucking ridiculous and embarrassing

[@coffee_2234]

Diabolical that pc prices and even then you can get a pc for cheaper bro

[@kevingame3198]

Just buy an Xbox series x it dose have games

[@mobious01]

No one needs the stand or drive

[@LloydTheZephyrian]

@@mobious01 Well, people who prefer getting their games physically will want the disc drive, and why the hell should you have to shell out an extra bit of cash just to stand your console upright?

[@ZelosSama]

people were paying over 1k for the console at release from scalpers.... dont disillusion yourself ....

[@TRINVIDEO]

I saw a theory that Sony is doing an experiment with the price. The PS4 Pro only made up like 10% of all PS4s sold so they don't expect the PS5 Pro to sell a lot regardless of the price. So instead they are testing out what customers will accept for the PS6 because leaks are saying it will cost a lot to make. If gamers accept the $700 price point the PS6 will probably be $700-750 and if they don't it will probably be $600.

[@TecraX2]

Sony would make a huge mistake if they assume that the Price Sensitivity of their "Top 10%" customers, is applicable to the remaining 90%...

[@wind369]

If I have to spend 70-80$ for a controller that’s made to break its joysticks there’s no way in hell I’m paying 700 for a ps5 pro

[@puredabs]

Dude dead ass. I so fed up with the controllers already now this bs. Xbox looks better all the time

[@lilkwarrior5561]

They have a $200 controller much better just like Microsoft

[@diegoaravena423]

​@@lilkwarrior5561it was drift and Sony artificialy makes the replace partes almost imposible to get

[@webbedshadow2601]

Wait what I didnt know about this are Dualsense controllers breaking???

[@panopea1104]

​@@webbedshadow2601 yeah, in my case the joystick rubber grips are falling apart, they are becoming sticky and one of them just crumbled and fell off during a boss fight... Also the battery is horrible

[@georgem2768]

In the UK, the PS5 Pro costs £700 and that’s roughly $915. PlayStation fans in the UK are getting robbed so badly.

[@GreenFlyart]

Great i live UK and that indeed is insane price :O

[@georgem2768]

@@GreenFlyart I’m from the UK too and there’s no way I’m getting a PS5 Pro. I’m happy with the original PS5.

[@Soundsaboutright42]

Can't be robbed if you don't give them the money

[@itsfranciss2291]

Ps6 definitely gonna be at least 1k lmao

[@GreenFlyart]

@@georgem2768 Same

[@agent_mc]

As a playstation gamer since PS1, i am completely baffled on the direction that Sony is going this generation!!

[@FastidiousFalchion]

As an ex PlayStation gamer, how could you not see this coming. They've been scamming us for years.

[@zid9611]

​@@FastidiousFalchion ya once they started to put things on PC. I knew it was going to end them long trem. Time to save up and move back to PC next gen.

[@FastidiousFalchion]

@@zid9611 might as well for $700

[@paledrake]

Playstation died when they moved to California.

[@summerking-wq1sd]

Why?.. this did this last gen too?… I’m only annoyed cause I only finally got this thing like a year ago cause scalpers held the reins for like 2 years lol. Someone smarter than me please tell me what year we are in this generations life cycle cause I coulda sworn it’s like.. 8 years?.. basically half way at this point.. I ain’t buying a 700 dollar console. That’s a solid down payment on a s***box car at this point.

[@D4rkM00n1]

I made my GF a 950$ PC, it plays like a dream and handles pretty much anything you throw at it at stable framerates max settings, it can also handle 4K pretty well. It is only 125 bucks more than the whole package for the PS5 Pro complete bundle (which is about 825$ where I live). Sony lost it...

[@AlkisGD]

The last PC I built was back in 2013 and I'm thinking of building a new one next year. If it's not too much effort, do share your parts list so I can get a feel for things again.

[@KiritoExcalibur]

Aside from the stupidly high price, and lack of a disc drive, there was really no need to have a pro version of the PS5 in the first place.

[@alpha34098]

Yeah. All of these features (except maybe the A.I. scaling since that was not in gamer's ears back then) should have been in the BASE PS5 years ago. Which does tell how rushed that was they had to make this to get it to the point it should be at launch.

[@iatepacman745]

Yeah that’s what I was thinking, we actually need new games not a new console

[@zzygyy]

At least until GTA 6 is released.

[@RANDOMPEPSIBOTTLES]

30 fps max though ​@@zzygyy

[@zzygyy]

@@RANDOMPEPSIBOTTLES we will see. We about a year out till gta 6 is released

[@GunterThePenguinHatesHugs]

US - $700 UK - £700 (aka $916) 😐 Someone did mention that the UK has added costs for tariffs and VAT, but still we're paying an extra $219 which is wack...

[@Elwaves2925]

It's been this way with many things for a long while. They don't bother with converting, they simply change the currency symbol and then use 'added costs' to justify it.

[@nicolaselie7078]

Bro that's crazy. They wild for that

[@lucasLSD]

europe is sony's strongest area, they can do whatever they want

[@MurderWeaponLimited]

i mean, brexit surely has a part in it too

[@michaelmann7816]

​@@MurderWeaponLimited Only as an excuse. They've (and to clarify, "they" here is pretty much the entire games industry; Sony ain't innocent here, but they're not the only guilty party...) have been doing this for at least twenty-odd years (turn of the century was about when I first noticed it, I can't say how long before that it started) Pretty much the only sources _that I know of_ that correct for exchange rates are Steam and most (that I'm aware of) in-game microtransactions (hey, law of averages says they have to get _one_ thing right...)

[@SonicMania2099]

Honestly, what annoys me even more is that I heard that PS5 sales were going downhill and Sony thinks that a price increase was the best move!?

[@DougieBoy]

In Canada, That would be $1,100 CDN PLUS TAX for the System, Disc Drive & Stand. You can make a decent PC for that price.

[@DanielSantos-ym8vd]

$700 dollars is crazy but the Japanese 120k yen is even more insane.

[@TheN9nth]

At that price it would still be cheaper than here in Australia or in Canada, which would be over $1000. Ludicrous...

[@crystalwater505]

@@TheN9nth How do people even game as a hobby in Australia? It's so expensive there.

[@nico5179]

What about Europe? 800€!! In exchange rate thats 124k Yen and 883$. We in Europe always get screwed the most!

[@Jack_Rakan]

@@nico5179 England especially got screwed. 700 pounds is 916$.

[@harryvuemedia5106]

$700 dollars is freaking cheap for a console. My Galaxy S22 ultra cost twice more than a PS5 pro.

[@sharpester7277]

Man. It is crazy how we went from the PS3's expensive 700 dollar launch price, which was capable of playing PS1 discs, CDs DVDs, and Blu-Rays alongside PS3 games which had a disc drive that you didn't have to pay extra for. To the PS5 Pro, which had no disc drive and no vertical stand was quite crazy to say the least.

[@bronzin1445]

PS3’s ridiculous price of $599 usd ($930 today) was actually justified. For starters, it had a built in Ps2 console inside, not an emulator no, Sony literally shoved the PS2’s emotion engine chip inside the console, along with a PS1 emulator and a BluRay player which was technically the very first of its kind. Production costs would nearly $900 per unit yet Sony undersold it at $600 thinking it would sell as much as the PS2

[@ragingtyga]

​@@bronzin1445people forget that the PS3 had 2 price points. 499 and 599

[@Leostar-Regalius]

you forgot ps3(well, the launch ps3) could do ps2 games also

[@frozenburst6463]

Not only that, but games coming out on the PS3 were noticeably better looking than on the PS2. The jump in graphics was pretty massive then when games became HD.

[@sharpester7277]

​@@Leostar-Regalius There's that. But still......

[@cornflakeshumunculus8373]

2018- Does anyone not have phones? 2024- Does anyone not have wallets?

[@moftavian8722]

Big, big wallets, wallets that don't matter at all

[@christianreyes9115]

Hahaha the Diablo presentation 🤣🤣

[@IsaiahFisher19]

Nah does anyone have money in their wallet you mean? 😂

[@blakkwaltz]

You don't get rich by wasting your money on bullshit.

[@RichieThe13th]

Feels like that exact moment 😂

[@123TheCloop]

lets not forget, for people who DONT have a diskless PS5, might just be using basic internal storage or a small addition so if you went for the diskless to save money you really dont because your now forced to go for much larger internal storage which can range anywhere from £80 1TB to like £250+ for a 4TB NVME drive. I'm not even joking, for what you are paying for a PS5 Pro + NVME storage and a disktray (if you want both) you are stepping into mid/high end PC hardware pricing that will outperform a PS5 Pro and still come with everything

[@silentCaim]

Considering this was right after the Concord mess, i'm stunned that no one at sony thought "MH, we are already in a bad spotlight, maybe wait for this announcement or keep it very low..." What a disaster...

[@andrew3006]

Those Ps5 & Pro comparison photos were literally that meme, “Corporate wants you to identify the difference between these photos… It’s the same photo”

[@thebigo2467]

I hope to god this thing sells abysmally.

[@crystalwater505]

In this economy it will. Many better alternatives like Steam Deck and handheld PCs, plus Switch 2 at this point.

[@tompramanaaccount8892]

Unfortunately sony fanboys still gonna buying this no matter what

[@NineBreakerUIXB]

@@tompramanaaccount8892 It's not Sony fanboys keeping this kinda crap going, it's the scalpers. Whatever boycott hundreds of thousands of people try means nothing when a handful of people pre-order every singe item. And the company ofc doesn't care who buys them as long as they sell. Scalpers are Still to this day trying to sell the mass amounts of stockpiled consoles, and then the manufacturer looks at console sales and game sales/subscriptions and assumes they're doing badly coz the numbers don't add up. It's ridiculous

[@SCOBigMike666]

​@tompramanaaccount8892 I like to think of myself as a fan boy but even I wouldn't pay that for what is a very little difference and zero disc drive or stand

[@_Colossus]

​@@SCOBigMike666 Same. I have a PS5 but no way in hell I'm buying a pro. I don't even think I'll be buying much of anything on PS5 from here on out. I love the controllers but can't stand the anti consumer practices Sony does. I'm sticking to PC from here on out.

[@pandareemy]

The thing about the PS1 and PS2 systems being at those price points is the games and accessories were insanely cheaper than what you get today. As well as no online subscription to play games. That's what makes playing games today so egregious imo.

[@Freesorin837]

Man, for that price this thing should be backwards compatible back to the PS1. These people are crazy.

[@macdhomhnaill7721]

They would never. Backwards compatibility and preservation is the antithesis to enshitification.

[@ayochill9716]

There has never been a better console generation to skip.

[@Dragonking1984]

Or in Sony's case the past 3 generations.

[@janky477]

​​@@Dragonking1984 Idk man, I really love the PS4 tbh.

[@fernandosepulveda7297]

​@@Dragonking1984your smoking crack PS4 3 and 2 were amazing.

[@claudiobizama5603]

@@Dragonking1984 Nah man, all the previous one were bangers (PS3 was rough as fuc at the start though, but ended on a good note)

[@kenneth465]

@@fernandosepulveda7297I lived through PS3 and PS4. Both awesome but this feels a weak generation IMO

[@tqlla]

The biggest problem is that Sony hasnt lowered the price of the PS5. Its been 4 years and the PS5 is still $500, the disc-less one went up to $450.

[@RokuroKun]

Hell, i think they increased the ps5 prices in Japan recently iirc

[@KurosakiRuka]

they increased the prices for the normal disc ps5 in europe during covid by 50€

[@Sa1ntGabe]

@@RokuroKun they had to increase it in Japan due to the currency dropping hard

[@Agent-mb1xx]

@@Sa1ntGabe no, it has lost value to the USD, not the same

[@djohtoep]

It will be problem on it's own actually, can you imagine a 'pro' console costing more than 2x the price of the base one

[@BertSingels]

PS5 Pro + Drive + Stand 950 euros in the Netherlands.... Are they NUTS!!!

[@GamingwTallenV]

This is what happens when: -there is no competition -higher ups are out of touch

[@krazyd0nut404]

@@GamingwTallenV concord effect

[@kematch935]

Reminder, Sony has Vtubers known as Sony Vee 🫥

[@skateredhmg09]

@@krazyd0nut404 Maybe but the main reason is there is no competition, Xbox is being lazy making Sony a favor to make whatever they want to their customers.

[@alphonsejohnson5601]

​​@@skateredhmg09That and Nintendo being in a league of its own.

[@thereluctanthipster6075]

There's competition, it's just to see who can drain wallets better.

[@vayneayoubi4539]

RIP to Europe €800, no disc drive and no vertical stand

[@RockinAfr0]

It becomes even worse when you convert currencies: $700 is €634, or the other way around: €800 is $882! That's daylight robbery!

[@Miragexe]

It's not really RIP when it's not something anyone needs and won't be an issue to miss out on.

[@TheSpongyMallard]

@@RockinAfr0apparently tax is included for Europe. For a lot of people in the US, it’s $780 tax included. It could be more or less depending on the state.

[@D4rkKn1ght311]

RiP to Australia $1052.00

[@-Vektron]

​@@D4rkKn1ght311 😂😂😂💀

[@bluephreakr]

The Nintendo Wii came with a vertical stand I never used. The fact Sony's PS5 Pro doesn't come with a vertical stand is beyond ridiculous.

[@sharpester7277]

I will give Nintendo with the Switch credit for one thing. They know how to make the most out of the hardware for the games that they develop for and keep the development costs for their games much more reasonable.

[@lilkwarrior5561]

That entitlement and why should people be forced to have a stand when they don’t need it? That’s not very green

[@Jugeum]

They're saving every penny since Concord failed

[@bluephreakr]

@@lilkwarrior5561 Holler back at me about being green when the world stops warring over delusions. *I mean this.* Efforts to be environmentally-conscious gets wiped out with _every_ missile man lobs toward their enemies, and _every_ rocket we send into space. We can worry about being green when we've quit letting greed drive us into bleeding red.

[@stijnvonck1431]

Just place your console horizontal, less dust falls in and it's overall better for the console

[@Jaegerrants]

0:16 can some one explain how british pound has same price and euro 100 more when being stronger currencies than dollar?

[@EvilSlayer398]

Either that, or tariffs on electronics, are cheaper entering into the UK than it is Europe? Could be many explanations but you have me intrigued that I'm going to look up later today if the British pound is stronger than the Euro

[@Jaegerrants]

@@EvilSlayer398 last i checked pound was strongest of the 3

[@codysteele3499]

@@EvilSlayer398the Pound is easily the strongest of the 3. I don’t think there’s been a time since I was born in ‘92 where it wasn’t the strongest currency

[@geoffrey657]

£700 is slightly over €800. The reason it’s so much above the US price is that the announced price needs to include VAT of about 20%.

[@EvilSlayer398]

@Jaegerrants thankyou and Cody for informing me today. I'm not off work yet, so you guys helped save me time after work lol 😉

[@1972drift]

PS5 Pro price in Australia is an eye-wateringly expensive $1,199

[@diannebeatty3851]

;_;

[@CaptainBloodsail]

💀 fuck that

[@a.b.s.anonymousbastardofso9459]

Get ready to mortgage your house in order to play games...

[@viethoang907]

bro at that point you might as well get a PC

[@Roxor128]

Ouch! I could build a pretty decent PC for the job at that price. Even more so by dodging the Microsoft Tax by using Linux Mint as the OS.

[@spbynum]

I’ve never seen a more effective “switch to PC” campaign in my life. It’s not quite Don Mattrick bad but it’s up there.

[@steelrideproductions371]

@@spbynum I wouldn't say switch to PC campaign lol. More like, switch to our competitor, Xbox campaign. An Xbox series X is drastically cheaper and just as powerful, if not more so, then the PS5 pro. Only real difference is that you don't have access to PlayStation exclusives anymore, but you get Xbox game pass. Owning both consoles, I personally feel like the Xbox UI is simpler than the PlayStation UI and I prefer playing on it anyways. Controller feels better in my hands too.

[@spbynum]

@@steelrideproductions371 absolutely no one will be buying an Xbox as a result of this. They’re done. In fact, it’s the lack of competition that emboldened Sony to do this in the first place.

[@steelrideproductions371]

@@spbynum agree to disagree. Not everyone has $700+ to drop on a new console. Especially since the XBSX is only $500, why wouldn't you purchase one? It plays almost every game PlayStation does, excluding their exclusives, is now $300 cheaper if you get a stand+disc drive, has game pass, and much much more. PlayStation may have felt emboldened by its popularity, and assumed that the reputation of sony would be incentive enough for its users to upgrade regardless of price. This is just the type of opening Microsoft needs to boost its own console sales and boast its powerful, cost effective console. You can be a Sony fanboy all day long, i was raised on PlayStation, but you cant be that naive to believe that xbox wont benefit from this. This is an entire marketing campaign waiting to happen and i feel we will see in time.

[@spbynum]

@@steelrideproductions371 you have just described a scenario where simply sticking with the standard PS5 is best if people don’t have the money to upgrade. Xbox is dead. It’s done. There is no reason to buy it. Microsoft isn’t going to pivot on a dime because of this. It takes years and years of development to capitalize and by that time, this generation would be over anyway. People are far better off saving towards a PC than an $800 incremental upgrade or a $500 nothing-grade.

[@steelrideproductions371]

@@spbynum over 43 million active players is NOT dead at all. Game pass subscriptions are slipping, but xbox itself is far from dead. As far as pc goes, people living paycheck to paycheck will never be able to afford one. If you think people have the type of income to save $1000+ for a pc. And if you have kids forget about it lol if you are in the minority able to save money, its likey for emergencies like car repairs or medical services. If you only got $500 to spare, you only realistic gaming options are a XBSS/X, switch, steam deck, or ps5 classic

[@ssj4922]

Sony spent 10 minutes giving the greatest PC gaming ad in history; No 4k gaming at 120fps, No Backwards Compatibility, No UI QoL changes No additional External SSD Port $700 USD And the disk drive is sold separately... Then there's PC where you can decide on how much you want to spend, don't have to pay extra for any type of online subscription bs, can use any controller you want, _and_ you get an actual Computer to do other stuff from multitasking on the web browse to talking with friends on an actual good communication platform like Discord while streaming your game to them. That's not including mods, emulation, Game Pass and tons of different and more importantly, cheaper ways to buy your games and play them the way you want and well: Next to the bloody $700 router, if this ain't a crowning endorsement for PC gaming, then idk what it is.

[@mobious01]

A pc with the power of the pro is more expensive than 700 dollars but good try on the wall with not a lot of substance

[@calvinel8507]

Yongyea pin this comment

[@Slaughter_Hill]

You don’t decide how much to spend. If you want anything worth a dang, $1000 minimum

[@bronzin1445]

Honestly, 4K is overrated and nothing but a resource hog. I’m not even sure why we’re even bothering with 4K to begin with when these consoles are clearly meant for 1440p. Hell, even with my 4070, I game at 1440p/144hz

[@BeardofBeesPool]

Are you kidding? There are barely pc games that can run 4K 120fps anyway. Fortnite and Forza?😂🤣

[@PanduPoluan]

Remember when Sony launched PlayStation by simply saying "$250" and left the podium? Sony was a hero, who has lived long enough to become a villain.

[@KRAFTWERK2K6]

it was actually 299 but yeah... Well the thing is that was 1990s Sony. Current Year Sony is a completely different kind of Beast....

[@cawashka]

800€ is absurd considering that the Euro is literally a stronger currency than JPY & USD. Sony has completely lost the plot.

[@SoSodawgindahouse]

Right, it’s more expensive than my rent, im in France. Sony is insane

[@zordoneltar5571]

​@@SoSodawgindahouse I need to move to France, my rent in the USA is $1000

[@milesfarber]

hahahahaha VAT goes brrrrrrrrrr

[@pierrotA]

​@@zordoneltar5571 It depend where you live, in both continents... In france you can have a small house with a small garden and everything you need for 400€ in the middle of nowhere, or a very small appartment when you have to make olympics move to shower for 1500€ in the middle of a big city... It's the same in the US, rent a room in the middle of nowhere and it cost nothing, rent something in the middle of a big city and it's very expensive.

[@Nioh2.2]

667 euros before vat since 20% vat is included so that be 737 usd. still get screwed for a extra 37 and screwed with a higher vat but less dramatic than people make it seem.

[@Oh_DeER_1_1o1_1]

Once upon a time, the perfect pitch was “299”

[@otherprisma7354]

Though this is today technology.

[@Luke973T]

Yeah when gas was 98 cent a gallon.

[@Oh_DeER_1_1o1_1]

@@otherprisma7354 ​​⁠ well… is there any difference between a PS4 and a PS5? Is ray tracing worth it? Or, since RDR2 graphics has stalled? Yesterday tech, but with nicer shadows

[@bronzin1445]

@@otherprisma7354which is overpriced for no damn reason…

[@Oh_DeER_1_1o1_1]

@@Luke973T PS5 pro at Sega Saturn price! (adjusted to inflation) Price is worthless when it doesn’t matters (so, the iconic “299” apparently, it’s something from the past) PS:. Sega Saturn used to had disk drive on retail, though

[@dougmcswaine4796]

Seems like the failure of Concord runs deeper than we know. Funny that all the prices are going up and they didn't have a new shiny game to show off. Almost like everything was riding in Concord taking off. I wonder if the presentation had to be redone to remove any footage/mention of Concord. Guess we'll never know.

[@sunderwire]

I think youre onto something…

[@D3adCl0wn]

@@sunderwire For sure Concord is suppose to be their flagship game for PS5 pro.

[@gfs5551]

Good old oops

[@detectivetap9119]

And get this it's the reason it's 700 bcs YOU THE CONSUMER HAVE TO MSKE UP FOR CONCORDS MONEY BOMB

[@lanceuppercut6168]

They're trying to make up for the loss of that dumpster fire 😂

[@ozz332]

It is also mind boggling that this costs roughly around 850 USD in Japan, you know where sony is based in.

[@ZanathKariashi]

Sony is in California now, they left Japan a bit ago.

[@0o-0o694]

The most future proof version of a ps5 is called a pc. One part breaks u get another. Not replace the whole thing.

[@MrTomemac]

Which is why they hardly showed off third party games. They look better on PC and will look meh on PS5 Pro. And for the price? Ha! Yup, just get a PC. They did everything to hide it. But most folk noticed….gee nothing to play on PS5 really.

[@johnniewaiker6203]

I never had my playstation broken and needed to be fixed. Sounds like a hassle buying separate parts and taking your PC apart.

[@TheMacC117]

​@@johnniewaiker6203you can instead just buy one that's already built. Or buy a bundle that includes everything you'll need, and either put it together yourself or have a friend do it. A couple hours of headache is totally worth it.

[@Throbingkcoc]

We have reached a point where console gaming is not only overpriced but you now have to pay extra to own physical access to your games.

[@pixels_per_minute]

You can't tell me that anyone is going to notice a slightly less pixelated fence that's 50 feet from the camera while the player sits 10-15 feet from the TV. At what point does chasing high fidelity become a fruitless endeavour? After no one can notice any changes between generations? Because it looks like that's where we're headed

[@StrikeNoir105E]

Another issue is that high-fidelity graphics isn't cheap, and so the money put into making a game look extra pretty end up not being used for other things that might have more impact on a game's visual aspects like say animation, or perhaps gameplay prototyping and iteration. And with the power of modern systems relative to their price you'd need an extra expensive system to even appreciate said visuals, all for details the average gamer wouldn't even notice.

[@gamingguy8595]

Yes when u play fast pace shooter online game like cod on ps5 and ps5 pro you wont literally see massive difference bcoz players focus on fluid 60 fps game on shooter cod rather than graphics.

[@ChickenJoseph]

We’re witnessing the end game of the graphics arms race between consoles. The amount of money it costs to improve graphics isn’t worth it for the majority of console gamers. At this point sony is moving towards lower end pc prices without any of the benefits of pc gaming

[@TheMacC117]

Which means that Microsoft will win by default, due to owning PC.

[@MrDanlancelot]

I love that their takeaway from "75% of the audience play on performance mode" was that all these people want better graphics......what??? surely that shows that people prioritize solid framerate and a smooth play experience over slightly nicer looking leaves in the background

[@meme13100]

​@h1gh3r73 THE PRICE ISN'T WORTH IT. Might as well buy a pc for that price.

[@xXYannuschXx]

"I love that their takeaway from "75% of the audience play on performance mode"" - Interesting to know. I remember during the PS3 days when more and more devs went for 30fps, because "better graphics sell more games then 60fps" (Insomniac literally stated this). Good to know how wrong they were.

[@giftheck]

I love how Sony highlighted differences in things absolutely nobody would have noticed, like: who's looking at the crowds in Ratchet and Clank? Who's paying attention to the freaking *trees* in Spider-Man 2?

[@trumpetbob15]

And remember, focusing on puddles in the original Spider-Man game was a bad thing!

[@kennyevilmonkey]

I know, instead, show us some Neir: Automata with a closeup of 2B's assets. Show us what the gamers are actually going to be looking at!

[@Pressbutan]

Well, someone’s got to make up for the losses of Concord. 😂

[@TheLigon27]

ppl better off trying to payoff their student loans 😂

[@psprinny5348]

Insert "I'll never forgive the Japanese" meme

[@unclientrandom5371]

820 box for console disc drive and stand.... this is 1116$ Canadian without the 15% taxes.... yeah fuck that

[@sanddry738]

I KNOW PC Vs. Console debates goes both ways depending on what you want but *holy shit* $700 (maybe 800 after tax) for this is *robbery*

[@FastidiousFalchion]

They think they have apple loyalty, when in reality they're being revealed to be out of touch corporate fools

[@sanddry738]

@@FastidiousFalchion Unfortunetly it all depends on who buys them. Just like with Scalpers and Gambling Games, sometimes it’s the ones who keep spending the most that keeps these shitty practices going. Sony needs a wake up call for real

[@D3adCl0wn]

You can also buy a $750 CAD prebuilt PC with RTX 3060, i7, and Windows OS, 1TB SSD, 32GB. $900 total if you spend $150 for peripherals. But with PC, I can still play all of my games more than 2 decades ago. AND I can emulate console games too.

[@NineBreakerUIXB]

@@sanddry738 This is the sad thing, PS5 Pro will probably still sellout instantly only due to scalpers. The result I'm hoping for will be that the scalpers won't be able to move the vast majority of them so they'll lose out, stop overbuying and Sony will drop the price. But that's best case scenario.

[@funkDr1]

For a full system $700 (including controller) compared to the equivalent powered PC is great value actually.

[@leeeinfield]

Just imagine how much they’d want to charge for next gen consoles whenever they come out. At that point just get a damn PC

[@stevemuzak8526]

PS6 will cost $1000. No optical drive, no stand and shitty DEI games.

[@Nurix09]

​@@stevemuzak8526gpu sold separately.

[@majingamer6109]

​@@stevemuzak8526 Yea Spiderman 2, GoW Ragnarok and Astrbot were terrible

[@stevemuzak8526]

@@majingamer6109 All crap. Producers of these games were forced by Sweet Baby INC to include agressive DEI agenda. Screw that!

[@Cybershock180]

I think I’m just going to pass when the ps6 comes out until they can quit making dei games and have them choose between 💰 or dei games.

[@rubiantary]

PS4 launch price was $399, then few years later PS4 Pro launched for $399 But now? full $200 difference??? WTF!?!?!?

[@Lazarus1095]

I think we've reached the point where advances in technology no longer drive gaming innovation. There really isn't anything meaningful that you can do on a PS 5 Pro that you can't do on a PS5.

[@takom7541]

Basically to PS4 pro. Ps5 is nothing more than a faster PS4 that's it. That's why I didn't bother getting new console. Maybe when Sony actually make good console again. The PS5 is nothing more than Wii U to Sony rn, they should just cut their losses and make something new

[@VocalMabiMaple]

@@Lazarus1095 this is why Im a nintendo/pc fan. I can play playstation games and xbox games on pc. Nintendo games often take advantage of their unique console designs to give you fairly unique gameplay experiences. Even if you emulate their games on PC, if often feels off because of the differences in the devices they were designed for.

[@behzadmirmozaffari2563]

AI NPCs is the only thing I'm excited about the future of gaming. If you have experience with one of the good chat bots or character bots, you'll see the huge potential they have, especially in a game.

[@lilbench5834]

Im Glad Technology is getting better yearly, but Where are the innovative Games or games in general

[@StrikeNoir105E]

IMO Graphics have basically "peaked" at this era, and won't really advance commercially without some significant technological innovation that allows for much higher graphical fidelity and more complex lighting solutions at affordable prices. Hell there still aren't many systems able to run games on max settings at 60+ FPS 4K with ray-tracing on so making games that push ultra-realistic graphics as their main selling point feels kind of a waste, and even then the graphical gains as seen by the naked eye are quite negligible. Where I see gaming need to innovate on the visual side is in animations, physics, and kinematics, which I feel are aspects of gaming visuals that just completely fluctuate in quality between years. There need to be more tools to allow devs to better streamline and ease up the process of making quality animations, more realistic physics, and more convincing object interactions where you can see stuff actually collide instead of clipping (e.g. a character's hair interacting with their backs).

[@Vandri2388]

The entire point of Consoles back in the day was that they were cheaper than a PC, but now the gap is closing and their almost as expensive as a PC, don't have disk drives anymore and have inferior hardware... You might as well just save up some more and buy a good PC, Consoles no longer hold any relevance.

[@MusicSkeletonKeys]

The Switch would like a word.

[@zultriova89]

​@@MusicSkeletonKeysclearly he said about Xbox and Playstation.. games will coming to PC anyway..

[@DanielFerreira-ez8qd]

This has always been the cycle. Ever since videogames became a thing.

[@Sa1ntGabe]

@Vandri2388 the regular ps5 still exists.. Just like how there's an expensive ass GPU in the 4090 that not everyone can afford.. there is now a pro for console users that also isn't for everyone. Lol why do yall act like the regular ps5 is gonna dissappear

[@fluffly8935]

As an owner of a ps5 and high end PC I’d choose ps5 every time

[@lulatsch1515]

800€!? In germany we would say "Lack gesoffen Teuer" meaning "did they drink paint before calculating this price?"

[@thomas_dries]

If you have $700 and you’re interested in the PS5 pro, please… build yourself a gaming PC. It may not be a top of the line PC, but you’ll have access to a massive library of incredible games via Steam and since PC’s tend to be modular you can upgrade your computer gradually over time rather then having to shell out another $700 every time a new console releases. I am a life long console gamer who bought a PC in 2020 (HP Omen with an RTX 2080ti) and It can still play all the new games coming out now on max settings with a solid 60fps, I haven’t looked back.

[@douglasduda9826]

I guess I was lucky grew up in the 90s, when lots of games and genre defining games were made and played. I always appreciated that computers had way more freedom and complex games and were not held back by few buttons on controllers and all their hardware limitations. Its always been my go to, I just always have a few friends who mostly game on consoles...so this hardly makes it of value to me. I need my friend to buy a new pc or laptop lol as he is going to pickup his new truck :P

[@silk1435]

Getting so tired of companies jacking prices during a cost of living crisis

[@MrBrewman95]

What's worse is the people who will buy it.

[@silk1435]

@@MrBrewman95 Agreed, that is the saddest part of it all

[@allenbanguilan]

Soo many complaints about price...I paid $600 for the PS3 when launched over 18 years ago so it being 100 more isn't that too far fetched with inflation. Just like the PS4 Pro this will def be a niche system. No one is forcing anyone to buy this thing. As much as we complain and whine they aren't changing the price.

[@dylanhagsauce8629]

​@@allenbanguilan They will actually.

[@crystalwater505]

I'd be surprised if PS5 pro sells well at all honestly during this time.

[@redoxpete]

“Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.” - George Santayana

[@tjenadonn6158]

And those who do remember are condemned to watch as those who can't remember repeat it regardless, completely outnumbered and completely powerless to stop them.

[@torakandwolf6786]

All that goodwill Sony accumulated from the 2013 Xbox One VS PS4 release, just thrown out the window in the last few years. 😂

[@Captain_Neckbeard]

They should have stuck with that regime, Layden, Yoshida, etc. The PS4 dudes were the guys to keep, and they replaced them to chase the live service model.

[@thelaw_00]

This is like xbox's perfect opportunity to throw out a 299 moment

[@jamesjiao]

Yes.. completely defenestrated.

[@a.liguria2698]

Goodwill whose foundations were also the nothing, really. It just so happened that Nintendo suffered from a far less successful console in the form of the WII U; and Microsoft flat out shot itself in the head when it came to the Xbox One. Sony had it too easy there, they just kept doing what they were doing with the PS3.

[@ShinGodzilla1011]

The biggest problem with the ps5 pro is that majority of consumers don’t feel like the ps5 needs an upgrade yet. PS4 was out for a long time & games were making it sound like a jet engine so when the ps4 pro came out you saw a huge difference! Ps5 hasn’t even been pushed anywhere near its limits so why are we pushing a pro right now ?

[@ssj4922]

Sony really got us all out here at 11am, hyped up their overpriced console, threw around a bunch of tech bro terms, gassed up their footage as proof of how much of an upgrade it is to the base PS5, _and then proceeded to show only cinematic cutscenes of already released games..._

[@coffee_2234]

Bro at that point im sticking to ps4 and never buying ps5 like these aren't new game they are games from last generation and who the hell buy a new console just to play games from last generation pls help it make sense

[@GrimAbstract]

​@@coffee_2234what are you even talking about? There are tons of games that are only on PS5 and not on PS4. Just say you don't have the money for a regular PS5, it's okay bro lol.

[@Dragoneye2427]

​@GrimAbstract There's only 24 ps5 exclusive games and only half of them are good.

[@coffee_2234]

@@GrimAbstract pls there hardly any ps5 games the vast majority of the games they have is from last generation aka ps4😂

[@GrimAbstract]

@@coffee_2234 I just counted 62 titles and that does not include games from 2025. Just enjoy the games from the past I guess? Lmao. I hope you don't like monster hunter.

[@balloonboy8849]

And they silently raised the prices on controllers for the PS5. They’re bleeding after Concord and trying anything they can to recoup whatever money they’re able.

[@ricardoediza2690]

You know whats worse than this? The fact that actual living organisms will pay 700 straight up for this

[@danialyousaf6456]

I highly doubt a lot of people will buy this garbage. Maybe it'll be a hit in the middle east, where money doesn't matter, but not anywhere else.

[@skateredhmg09]

Theres people buying a $1200 phone very year.... thats way worse.

[@brandonlong2796]

In the UK. You can get a brand new ps5 for 390. Brand new ps5 pro is 699. Just shy of DOUBLE. Nah bro. Sony missed

[@jacobs1834]

$700 and No disc drive? That’s really really really lame. Obviously won’t be buying.

[@LloydTheZephyrian]

And no console stand, either.

[@lilkwarrior5561]

@@jacobs1834 A disc drive shouldn’t be forced on digital only gamers. The existing removable drive works on this new PS5 variant as well

[@DanielFerreira-ez8qd]

​@@lilkwarrior5561 For an extra dozen dollars?? On a 700$ Package???

[@jacobs1834]

@@lilkwarrior5561 bro. Physical copies matter whether you like it OR NOT.

[@TheMacC117]

​@@lilkwarrior5561how the fuck is it "forced"? Does the switch force his cartridge drive on you? Did the 360 Force a disc drive on you? If you want to download games, then do that. It's not like having a disc drive impedes downloading.

[@Zzplys]

Gotta make up that Concord money somehow

[@yabito]

Concord Tax

[@yansnoops]

Lol nice one 😂😂😂

[@Neko_Medic]

How many ps5 pros would you need to sell to recover 200 millions?

[@jamestan5105]

Think it's returning to that arrogant PS3 era.

[@Fighter_Builder]

​@@Neko_Medic 285,715, and that's not even taking into account how much it costs to make these things.

[@johnsullivan937]

It's essentially an 800+ dollar console that will add up to around $900 after sales tax. Get fucking real. You can buy a legitimately good gaming laptop for that price. Hell during black friday this year I wouldnt be surprised if you could find a laptop with a 3070ti-3080 for under 1 grand. Just get a pc, it would blow this shitbox out of the water, even in the form of a magma hot laptop case.

[@harryvuemedia5106]

Heck no dude! A $1,000 gaming laptop will not even run a good game smoothly. And an entry level gaming PC is already $2,000 usd. Anything less than that, you are screwing yourself over.

[@Floppa-oz1kp]

@@harryvuemedia5106you seem uneducated in PC performance and prices lol

[@firstamongsuckers23]

@@Floppa-oz1kphe is but he’s right in general. On performance alone the console is already better, now PC has a lot of added benefits (free online mainly), but you’ll still have to fork quite a few hundred bucks more to get it to keep up, performance wise to the PS5 Pro. Also you’ll regularly be changing (very expensive) parts to keep that performance going, while a console guarantees you 6-7 years of not having to change a thing and having all games available made specifically for your device, compared to the usual horrible optimizations PC users have to suffer (even when having the most high end of parts). Yeah no, consoles are still cheaper, and better if you don’t play online games (imo anyways).

[@QuiteLunacy]

@@harryvuemedia5106 a take so out of touch that this has to be bait😂

[@gilbertplays]

@@harryvuemedia5106 Entry Level is like $200-300 not $2000, that is basically Workstation levels.

[@barnyg6804]

NZ PLAYSTATION STORE YESTERDAY announced Kiwis will pay $1379 for the Pro version, they can go stick it where the light doesn't shine.

[@KermitOfWar]

We need a shirt that says, "Vertical Stand Sold Seperately + Tax"

[@tinypixiebread]

At this point save up 2000$ and buy a powerful gaming PC that you can use for many years to come

[@funkDr1]

🤣🤣 The self irony

[@fluffly8935]

Bro you even read what you typed? Lmao delusional

[@joeykeilholz925]

Or $1000 for far better value. It's not far away from $700 console + $80 disc drive + $80 first year of cheapest ps plus subscription to access the games you already bought. $860 will get you a 6700 XT, 12600KF, 32 GB DDR4 3200 RAM, z series motherboard, 750W NZXT 80+ Gold Fully Modular PSU, 2 TB SSD, and a nice case with 4 140mm rgb fans. I did use micro center for cpu/board/ram but bundle deals on newegg are similar. The opportunity is there but too many believe they need to pay for convenience and don't see the big picture of an $80 yearly subscription piling up.

[@skateredhmg09]

Yea but a lot of people dont want to look for individual components break their asses up putting everything together when they only want to sit and play.

[@holyheretic3185]

The fact it's meant to bridge a gap that shouldn't even exist since they said ps5 was 4k 60fps(which I feel we would be allowed to sue them for lying.)

[@greed-1914]

Yeah, I was already skeptical before the price because it sounded like it was just doing what the PS5 was supposed to do in the first place. Even at $600, I would have been unimpressed

[@bronzin1445]

In other words, much like the PS4 Pro, the PS5 Pro is what the launch PS5 should have been from the get-go

[@Dragonking1984]

@@bronzin1445 Which is why the "pro" models have never made sense to me. You're buying the same system again but at a higher price for a slight upgrade. When you could of just bought a PC then pay far less to upgrade as needed/wanted.

[@randomdude1656]

They even put 8k in the box

[@joeykeilholz925]

They said 8K on the box

[@xXYannuschXx]

1. Why is the PS5 Pro somehow 800€ here in Europe, despite the normal and slim PS5 having a 1:1 Dollar to Euro price? 2. For what games are they releasing the PS5 Pro? Seriously, this gen has no friggin games. They basically cancelled the PSVR2 on day one, by not releasing games for it.

[@brentyetter2216]

Microsoft and Sony both really frickin suck at this point

[@VenomHernandez]

On Gawd💯

[@agent_mc]

Facts !!!

[@nintony2994]

They really fell off

[@deanhollingsworth7938]

You say that but microsoft they did offer a next gen for $300 it works

[@markvanwalsem3201]

@@deanhollingsworth7938 which bites them in the ass right now,several games had to be delayed because they had to work on de Series S,Playstation did it the right way imo with the PS5&PS5 digital.

[@ChikaHakozaki]

so this, a stand, a disc drive and 1year sub and you're sitting at $1000.... mind as well become a PC gamer

[@Stormbless3d]

Cheaper games, no online subscription, mods, better visuals and performance, upgradeable, gamepass, PS exclusives. What's not to love?

[@MaaZeus]

I was genuinely considering giving up on PC gaming simply because of insane GPU prices, but then Sony had this "hold my beer" moment.

[@krazyd0nut404]

You forgot a game. Damn $1100 now

[@Dregomz02]

@@MaaZeus just buy used gpus, rx 6950 xt is now pretty cheap and it will have better performance than PS5 pro

[@fluffly8935]

@@Stormbless3dPS exclusives after 3 years if you are lucky lmao

[@toanuva6178]

If Nintendo plays their cards right, I think the Switch 2 might preform really well when plopped into a $700 competition

[@vaininsquid-123]

$500 PS5: exists $500 Xbox Series X: also exists $300 Xbox Series S: (yup, you guessed it..) exists as well

[@makavelii7]

Switch 2 US $500

[@psykorobot6807]

@@makavelii7 No, it won't be. It will be $399 and that is with Nintendo making a nice little profit on each sale. And it won't' be nearly as powerful as people want it to be.

[@cloudali892]

Not really, they will make another underpowered piece of crap with accessories that are more expensive than Mercedes parts.

[@makavelii7]

@@psykorobot6807 Watch it be 500, inflation is going nuts and nintendo or any company cant make miracles

[@loki.odinson]

Nintendo next year with Switch 2: "$399."

[@olivur_1459]

$499 - Docking sold separately

[@kr0w1123]

This feels like a price test for the ps6 to gauge if people will spend that much money or not on a new console

[@Multrakiller]

Everybody's talking about the $700, but I am more shocked over the €800 price tag...

[@RogerCold009]

It's like 950 euros for the full PS5 Pro package, it's just madness at this point

[@CarTastic-fv6eo]

@@RogerCold009 Its whole monthly salary for people in less developed countries ...

[@ryukaze20]

I'd rather buy myself a gaming PC than get a PS5 Pro even though I have a PS5. For that MINIMUM levels of "Upgrade" its NOT worth it

[@Bichote2382]

Yeah I think I’m done with consoles and the online isn’t free either

[@Roxor128]

"Console" should be a form-factor, not a platform. The Steam Deck and its clones are showing the way in the handheld space. We just need someone to do the same for the TV-gaming one.

[@D3adCl0wn]

@@Roxor128 With handhelds taking stride, console gaming will die out soon. The novelty is wearing out thin.

[@laurwolfxd_3830]

I'd be ok with that price only if it included the disc drive, the vertical stand, AND one extra controller. Or instead of 2 standard controllers, just include the dualsense edge because that's basically like the "pro" version of the ps5 controller, right? Perfect pairing.

[@thedeergod435]

We’ve gone from no games to no disc drives and stand

[@Dustygoodz]

Ps6 controller, HDMI Cord, and Power cord sold separately 😂

[@AlexLee-je5jg]

‘You will own nothing and be happy’

[@susanna8612]

Here in Europe PS5 pro 800€ + disc drive 130 € + stand 80 € = 1000€ 1000€ for small upgrade, upgrade which should have been made free for original PS5 because it was sold as 4k/60 fps console. Sony is history.

[@ssj4922]

This over obsession with graphics instead actually providing fun games- actually wait, scratch that, simply _any games in general_ is actually dooming this industry man holy shit, we are _cooked..._ AND ITS $700 TOO! WITH NO DISK DRIVE!!!

[@fabolousjada5070]

Graphics and performance in one i know you broke but don’t lie. 4k 60 fps. Get a rig that does that with AAA games then send me the receipt so I can see how much you paid

[@NurseValentineSG]

So, let me gets this straight. - A better version of a console that still hasn't even reached anything close to looking better than what is possible on a PS4 - A pricepoint only 200€ less than what I paid my PC for - They cheaped out on a plastic stand?! You need to buy it seperately?! - Seperately sold disc drive for the console that meme'd onto Xbones attempt at a similiar thing Seriously, what are we doing? You are sending out a console to die. The thing you already sell on a loss so you can make the money back with games. Then again the PS5 has a singular game with Astrobot, so what do I know

[@Rocketcow-dx1jd]

Games never will look better because every developer uses Unreal 5.

[@tatienouorest3358]

The weird thing is they went on and on about people wanting more performance over graphics But they then showed us only pictures comparing graphics and no fps comparison

[@funkDr1]

Pay more attention. They showed comparisons of games using PS5 Fidelity mode at 30fps vs PS5 Pro Fidelity 60fps. That's the point of the Pro, making it possible to combine both modes into one.

[@tatienouorest3358]

@@funkDr1 a single shot where they tell me how one runs at a better fps compared to the other without giving any specs is not a comparison. They should have used actual figures! Do you think my eyes can differentiate two pictures playing side by side at 30 vs 45fps!? Especially on my phone? Allow some select KZbinrs to play test it and give us cold hard facts

[@Czah5]

Keep in mind that the original PS3, on release, was backwards compatible with PS1 and PS2 games as well as several additional card slots.

[@bronzin1445]

Not only that but said PS2 compatibility was because Sony literally shoved PS2 hardware via the emotion engine into the console. Later models used emulation

[@sch0453]

Not true. PS3 online store offered classic library with more PS1&2 games than what we have now on PS5 store. But PS3 was not compatible

[@raynortownly7098]

PS3 was a blue ray player, when br players cost almost as much.

[@toddclawson3619]

@@sch0453 The original 80gb ps3 was backwards compatible with most ps2 and ps1 games. I still own it and can stick in physical ps2 games no problem. Newer versions removed this feature.

[@sch0453]

@@toddclawson3619 wow I didn’t know about this

[@hit47n]

This is the reality check that Sony needs as does the entire gaming industry. Don’t mess with the consumers because we have the power. No disk drive no deal.

[@dannyrivera8300]

This is ridiculous , Sony will get the point when people aren't buying this and they'll drop the price

[@TyrantWesker]

Part of me wonders if that might be their plan. Release the Pro at a stupidly high price with no disc drive or stand to scam as many fools as they can early on, then drop the price and include the extras so they can brag about how "we heard your feedback."

[@X0FOI]

@@TyrantWeskeryou might be on to something here buddy.

[@krazyd0nut404]

@@TyrantWesker that is a horrible business market idea, no company will flex like this and spin it to work. You can say that about concord? Did that work?

[@raynortownly7098]

Kinda doubt it Hardware is getting expensive all around. They are probably not making that much money on it. Plus this isn't meant to replace base model. And despite how people talk there are always plenty of rich whales out there. Maybe they include disk in there for pr purposes.

[@That_Guy-]

​​@@TyrantWesker "we heard your feed back and decided to release the pro with🥁🥁🥁 THE STAND, how about that guys woo **enthusiastic corporate stage clapping ensues**

[@TFallenAngle]

This is why we need Xbox to not fade into only making games. We need options to keep these companies in check.

[@richiem1321]

We need Microsoft to commit to games. If you think the next Xbox will be far off this then I'm happy for you😂

[@lemmy154]

that "en esta economía? was unexpected for me

[@voidcenturyD]

He's from Venezuela but comes off as an Asian guy so he just leans into it and calls himself Yong

[@TimidEnigma]

Perfect advertisement by sony on why you should just get a pc , Bravo.

[@grundged]

PS4 to PS5 was a huge upgrade. PS5 to PS5 Pro...hardly a negligible difference. Waste of $700.

[@a2raya772]

You're comparing a new console to a upgraded version.

[@zultriova89]

ps4 to ps5 not an upgraded?? 😅

[@joshuaanderson1712]

@@a2raya772 Not according to the price-points, that's not just a new console but one with a cupholder and ice dispenser.

[@chriswyatt9869]

I don’t think it was a huge upgrade. I would say it’s one of the more lacklustre jumps in generation. Far too many cross gen games and not enough flagship games that showcase PS5s power has essentially left my ps5 a glorified ps4 playing ps4 games. In all honesty I regret buying my ps5.

[@AB-fr2ei]

Huge ? It was meh