Down In It

[@PsionicAudio]

Late in the video for some reason I said PEC (really nice potentiometers) when I meant PEX. Sorry, old habits…

[@jeffreyparker4353]

you should run the hot/cold pex pipe in tightly twisted pairs to cancel out noise

[@goodun2974]

Or use in phase and out of phase air-bladder tanks to equalize the water pressure coming and going! 😁

[@jutukka]

He knows now that both FET's and bathrooms suck, because they have drains. 😂

[@goodun2974]

@jutukka , a bathroom is a place with a collector for your emitter!

[@jutukka]

​@@goodun2974Always remember to afterwards wipe your emitter with a burst from a wipe generator.

[@mikewithers299]

​@@goodun2974🤣🤣🤣💩💩💩

[@colbyjack7074]

PROGRAM NOTE: The show "This Old Amp" is now temporarily "This Old House". "This Old Amp" will return shortly. 😀 Very interesting Lyle... what a project!

[@audunrundberg9180]

It is an amp after all. Directed by M. Night Shyamalan.

[@thatampguy]

😂

[@BlugubriousMusic]

You are proving what I instinctively comment on tons of guitar videos Lyle... That the principles involved in doing something well apply to everything! The old saying is true how you do something is how you do everything. I'm digging these...

[@PsionicAudio]

Thanks! My wife was a little freaked out when I told her all this stuff with saws and nail guns and electrical runs was less dangerous than what I do all day every day with the amps…

[@BlugubriousMusic]

@@PsionicAudio Can't get stitches for a heart stopping amount of current/voltage! I assume you know, but if you have squeaky floors elsewhere in the house... a little constructive adhesive under that subfloor on top of those joists mitigates. Hard to remove later, but in theory, that is decades away like this job was. No need to reply here.

[@johnroznovsky212]

Plumbers do avoid putting water supply in exterior walls as freeze prevention, maybe the reason for floor positioning

[@johnburns5783]

Half expecting Norm Abraham to pop in 😂😂😂

[@PsionicAudio]

I love Norm. But for this I need Tom…

[@johnburns5783]

@ What you want is a plumber who needs an amp repairing. He does the plumbing, you repair his amp. 😂😂😂😂

[@gregboboski9904]

You know you're not making me want to take on my own bathroom reno that needs to be done, Lol!

[@roncarter2188]

Oh the pleasure of reconstructing in old houses with new and old plumbing…..can’t we all just get along!😅😢😂

[@thatampguy]

No Mike Rowe collab?

[@jefffree6990]

Great point on the dangling cast iron vent - it will try to pull itself right out of roof and hundreds of pounds can come crashing down! For about $11 at HD you can get a 4 in. Riser Clamp and secure it at an appropriate place while you work. On my house we left about 2 feet of cast iron coming through the roof and replaced everything else (much of it was cracked) with PVC. Cutting old cast iron is REALLY hard. My buddy had one of those big cutters with the chain that raps around and snaps it. For areas where we couldn't get access i think i used a 9" Diablo Steel Demon blade on the sawzall (If you're doing a lot of cuts buy extra).

[@goodun2974]

The only practical way for a do it yourselfer to cut cast iron is with a reinforced carbide or carborundum wheel on a circular saw and that throws out so many sparks you are likely to burn the house down. If you can get a plumbing savvy friend to do it for you with the right tools you'll be better off in the long run.

[@patarmstrong3582]

Carborundum grit Sawzall blades work. Also, cutoff wheel in an angle grinder if you have the access. There are some newer carbide Sawzall blades, too but haven't tried them on cast iron.

[@snaredude56]

@@goodun2974 All he needs to do is rent a soil pipe cutting tool from his local rental house. Chain wraps around pipe. Tighten the tool and the pipe will snap clean with no sparks. Easy Peasy.

[@goodun2974]

@snaredude56 , That's assuming you can rent one. Around here the only rental place that was worth a darn was True Value hardware, but now that the parent company is declaring bankruptcy, they stopped renting tools.

[@snaredude56]

@@goodun2974 That may be the case where you live, but why would you assume that's the case everywhere? If he can't rent one, then it's time to use a cutting wheel, but to say the only way to do it is the cutting wheel just isn't true if you can rent the correct tool. He's in Nashville, so I doubt he would have any problem renting one.

[@dennisgreen1837]

Don't disturb the vent stack! My plumber did, and it broke at a joint inside the wall.

[@martinreid1740]

A lot of work but you are getting there and I'm enjoying seeing the progress.

[@nopenope134]

I could hear that jangly distorted keyboard tone in my head while watching this

[@pedraw]

Just watching this gives me the chills...........best of luck but it will all turn out in the end.

[@JoshRoberts-fo5gq]

Now is the time to change it up if u wish

[@ChrisG4646]

This house is the Mesa Boogie of houses

[@simmo42]

Love the Narnia reference Lyle….

[@joemcgraw5529]

I would also when installing the new sub floor use adhesive subfloor glue on the Joists ,you will be thankful later ,it eliminates squeaks when walking on it then screw it down

[@BradsGuitarGarage]

Damn, this feels like a Psionic / AvE crossover episode! My two true loves!

[@oldguy5381]

If it was my project I would get rid of all the cast iron pipe I could afford. My opinion is PVC is more efficient and much easer to repair and work on.

[@PsionicAudio]

Yeah, that’s what I want. Let’s see if that’s doable.

[@johnwilliamson467]

For me cutting cast iron pipe with a cut off wheel not a sawsall IMHO. Floor heat for the bathroom is great in the winter .

[@PsionicAudio]

Floor heating is a big expense with everything else. I’m going to just go with actually insulating the floor and not having gaps between the room and the outside air. ;) Cutoff wheel - you mean on an angle grinder? I’ll be getting one and a reciprocating saw soon. I saw videos of people using a big chain cutter, but that’s something I’d rent rather than buy, and rental tools can be in scary condition. That thing looks too close to a chainsaw for me to want to use one I didn’t own and maintain.

[@goodun2974]

​@@PsionicAudio, If you're gonna cut it with an angle grinder or a carbide wheel on a circular saw, be really careful because those things will throw off a lot of sparks. You'll need eye protection too, but anyway we don't want you to burn the house down.

[@johnwilliamson467]

@@PsionicAudio A good bit of insulation help a lot .

[@JoshRoberts-fo5gq]

​@PsionicAudio it's called a soil cutter lol the chain and rachttet thing?

[@patarmstrong3582]

Insulating the crawl walls, and cavity next to the outside (rim joist/band joist) will really help and is often overlooked. Batt insulation can be cut to hang down on the foundation wall from the floor joist cavity.

[@dontuckerjr]

Lots of commodians. LOL😅

[@merrillaldridge2775]

Lyle, you missed the opportunity to have Men at Work playing in the background. "Hey! Do you speakuh my language?"

[@goodun2974]

You're working with some old bones there Lyle. Dem bones, dem bones, dem dry bones! Glad to see that you haven't found any skeletons, but you might have released some ghosts inadvertently..... holding a seance' at midnight would not be advised and don't let anybody hypnotize you or you could end up like Kevin Bacon in Stir of Echoes. PS, another good scary movie for Halloween is The Autopsy of Jane Doe.....

[@Andy-ql9wh]

Well, at least you know what your up against to get er done now......

[@paulwatson8809]

My guess is the plumber is going to recommend removing all the horizontal cast iron as it is moe prone to failure. I would remove all of it. No vintage mojo in old sewage pipes.

[@jltrem]

Yeah,...but where are the tubes??

[@dustinthiessen]

plenty of valves at least ;)

[@goodun2974]

​@@dustinthiessen, They're water cooled like big transmitting tubes are!😅

[@JoshRoberts-fo5gq]

Toilet on the right...tub center of window and lavatory on the left

[@johnhackley1626]

Is your water heater powered by 6L6's or EL34's? 6550's or 6Ca7 are recommended for really cold climates along with a NOS Mullard GZ34 for reliability. Also 12ax7 for hot water taps and 12at7 for cold. Bon voyage!

[@robwalker8530]

Replace it all.

[@Strumbum01]

+1 on this…ditch it all while it’s easily accessible, vents too.

[@PsionicAudio]

I’d love to. But those vents go through the roof and I don’t have a long enough ladder to do it myself or a big enough budget to have the flashing redone.

[@Strumbum01]

@@PsionicAudio that’s understandable, Lyle. Maybe you can replace what will be covered up and save the accessible sections for another day. Good luck, sir!

[@patarmstrong3582]

Replacing the vent pipes is an unnecessary expense and would result in much more plumbing noise. Vertical cast iron is seldom problematic but, the horizontal sections cause problems. I think it could be 2 Ferncos and utilize the existing vents, while building the PVC as you want around it. You have vent access for 3 openings from both ends- perfect. See what your plumber says.

[@mikewithers299]

​@@PsionicAudiothose vent stacks can easily be replaced without touching the roof flashing. I did this to mine years ago. Cast and pvc are about the same diameter and it will slip inside the flashing (called a "boot"). As long as there is nothing holding that pipe like bracing, you can slide out the cast and slip in pvc. Check your attic for anything that might prevent the pipe from coming down, like a bell (hub) above the bathroom ceiling. Vertical cracks on cast iron vent stacks do happen. I've seen them, and that's why I replaced mine. Cracks become leaks eventually.

[@johnl8081]

I presume you have a second bathroom?!? Or perhaps a Mesa for when nature calls….drain the caps first.

[@upload2352]

I can hardly wait for the plumber/framer/etc guys whining that Lyle's being critical of everything he sees in this bathroom hellscape just to get clicks. Separately, I get the need to keep eyes on the channel for now, but when the project's done, maybe consider moving these to a sub-channel to keep Psionic just about amps/related.

[@PsionicAudio]

It’s kind of a diary for me to look back on. Don’t worry - amp videos will be coming out too. One later today.

[@JoshRoberts-fo5gq]

This way...at least the attention isn't straight to the shitter upon entry...and the window is nice

[@PsionicAudio]

Left open door. Whenever the door is open the toilet is hidden from the hall. You’d only see the clawfoot tub and pedestal sink.

[@JoshRoberts-fo5gq]

Sometimes I'm dexlexic lol

[@JoshRoberts-fo5gq]

At this point your pretty much balls deep man lol btw there is a carbide S

[@JoshRoberts-fo5gq]

Sawzall blade that will make short work of that cast pipe

[@JoshRoberts-fo5gq]

The riser pipe is no doubt heavy af...after mods are made make sure the roof jack for that stand pipe isn't leaking imo

[@tonya4157]

Pretty Hate Machine? I find it hard to believe that you know that song.

[@PsionicAudio]

Well, I prefer Closer but this is a family show…

[@tonya4157]

Uh huh, exactly why I didn't mention it. 😊 Good to see N.I.N. get a mention.

[@PsionicAudio]

I was 18 when PHM came out. I saw them at The Masquerade in Atlanta before they exploded.

[@tonya4157]

Awesome. I've never been to one of their shows. I don't think they've ever been within 200 or 250 miles of me. I was 33.

[@JoshRoberts-fo5gq]

Would take a lil work but....

[@raypinard6007]

Castiorn will not cut with sawsall need cutoff weale

[@PsionicAudio]

It absolutely will with the correct blade.