PSO2 NGS - How to pick your 4 Star Weapon

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@samsamsamsamsamsamsam 3 жыл бұрын

06:00 "PP monster" OwO

@thetrigger173 3 жыл бұрын

Good thing Foursis has Twin Daggers and Wired Lance in their lineup :D I can be a titan slayer lol

@theUeki49 3 жыл бұрын

Resigur wand/rod to keep up on elemental downs at any combat range. I have tons of fun with it.

@anniedarkheart5224 3 жыл бұрын

Been loving Vialto Dual Saber/Talis. In addition to Pillbox's pp gen, it also outdamages Julien at 4-5 targets with AoE stance, depending on if Julien hitting weakspot on priority target is present. Talis's stances are useful for general gameplay though. Converge stance has higher dps/dppp than normal Techs (the same attacks that Rod/Wand have) but don't proc Barta/Zonde, so that has to be considered, Converge stance Foie is free. The techs themselves can be situationally useful too, like PSE burst Bujin having a lot of clutter on screen or having bushes/terrain covering up counter telegraphs can make using Barta more chill than trying to Parry that mess. I often use the DS to PP gen, although I have a weapon swap for pure ranged + Unchained Circle + Parry

@narimei7437 3 жыл бұрын

Hi, not sure if this works or I'm just "being bad" buuuut : I use Foursis Rifle with Daggers multied onto them because there was no Foursis Launcher and I WANTED to keep my Foursis Rifle specifically. The daggers really SEEM to ruin a downed boss spot or annoying Petta mob pretty well along with Daggers PB while Weak Bullet and Trap are on cooldown for single targeting scenarios or when I need the big burst.

@CandelaShred 3 жыл бұрын

If you’re having fun doesn’t matter if it’s nooby or “being bad” imo, just do what’s enjoyable

@CuevadelRaton 3 жыл бұрын

Just to disclose something real quick, since the topic just came out. Fixa attack is not the best Fix you can get right now on a 3* level weapon, the best combination is Trois de unlock potential+ Fixa Fatale lvl5( 13% crit chance). This combination would give you around 20% crit chance+ base crit chance being 5%, you most likely end up on base 25% crit chance. (In testing the critical strikes are above 35%, but i need some testing to prove it) As everyone knows, critical strikes ignores floor potency, and amplify your damage 20% more. Apliying a standard deviation, this will end up on a max 27% damage increase with a middle of 15%, depending on your base critical chance ( im testing base critical chance at the moment) Using fixa attack 5% on a 3* weapon will be outperform by a 4* level weapon by 1% damage no fixes due only to floor potency being 5% greater on 4* weapons. Using the above combination the 3* weapon will outperform for a minimum of 7% and a maximum of 13% the 4* level weapon due to the fact that critical ignores floor potency. Above calculations don't even account for unlock potentials on 4* weapons. Since using them will most likely end up on near damage to the above combinations. But near is not enough to outperform them, you need a good fix and actually use the potential to outperform it. This is cheap brainless dissgusting damage.

@kristjankogel1776 3 жыл бұрын

if you can also get fixa fatale lvl 5 on 3 of your armor pieces and then use trois weapon with lvl 4 potential unlocked + fixa fatale lvl 5 = 120% perma potency unlocked.

@CuevadelRaton 3 жыл бұрын

@@kristjankogel1776 I believe you cannot get fatale on armor pieces or m I mistaken ?

@kristjankogel1776 3 жыл бұрын

@@CuevadelRaton yeah I noticed that to be the case. If it would have been possible you might as well have thrown any sembalance of balance out of the window.

@Kojiro3210 3 жыл бұрын

Force/Hunter Hunter/Force I use just Cattelya sword and Foursis Rod/Wire Lance For one skill tree, and Cattleya Sword and Foursis rod portion and Vialto Spear for another skill tree. Think about Using Vialto Talis with that too. That barrier from Foursis will probably matter more in the future when gigantix are 1-shotting everyone else :3 When it comes to using other weapons you cant multi weapon, there are keys set and are changeable to quickly change to another weapon or skill bar. Fighting with wire lance then swapping to sword for some heavy down hits can be done fairly quickly.

@ratsforhands 3 жыл бұрын

I can't stop changing my mind on weapons. I've upgraded a wand, a rifle, a saber and two effing launchers (because I sold my first one)... Make it stop

@droveeh1318 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah same, I still can't even decide what my main class would be.

@AzuriteTV 3 жыл бұрын

Really wish there was a way to keep track of Resurgir buff, I feel that would make Resurgir value so much higher

@rijinn727 3 жыл бұрын

Yup that was the problem with the base game since the nemesis and raven weapons, there should be a status icon when potentials are active. Pso series have always been simple and that over simplification is what sucks compared to other mmo rpg that have kind of a crowded screen with statuses and buffs but its very informative since more you can see what you got and what you dont. I also wish i can move the hp bar to the center since ive been used to other mmo that have the hp bar on the center or can be moved to the center.

@rightful4973 3 жыл бұрын

@@rijinn727 like how Klauz potential lets you know when it’s ready again with a flashing symbol under your feet.

@rijinn727 3 жыл бұрын

@@rightful4973 yup, for foursis series its easy to know since there's a shield around you and you know its active when youre full hp.

@AzuriteTV 3 жыл бұрын

@@rijinn727 FOR REAL!? Then why the hell doesn't resurgir get like at the very least an AURA around your character while its up? like cmon Sega, its like they want us to min/max but at the same time don't give a shit man idk

@rijinn727 3 жыл бұрын

@@AzuriteTV i think there is for resurgir, a purple aura like klauz but it is not as strong and as pronounced as klauz and its hard to notice specially on labs and resol forest. That's why its better if you can see it as a status or if the make it more noticable.

@valenten89 3 жыл бұрын

Dis is gewd stuffs. I figured the more specialized options were the go to for most classes. The only class I could see using resurgir consistently is Ranger for the doubling up with Launcher.

@MasterMkp 3 жыл бұрын

Twin daggers with knuckles, with the use of movement skip arts are really fun for flashy combos. (End gang)

@osYukari 3 жыл бұрын

Force main. Started w/ Foursis Rod, then swapped to Resurgir Rod multi Launcher. mobbing with a rod in OTS view. multi-launch against enhanced enemy's shield. other than that, only use the Launcher for PP regen. ...probably a dumb idea, but at least better spells uptime than pure rod.

@gkagara 3 жыл бұрын

I would love to get 4 star but I feel slight increase of damage doesn't pay much for money being spent. Still using Theseus armor +40 and gold prim +40.

@bioticninja2170 3 жыл бұрын

I’ll be honest, even though I want to go with a fighter and techter weapon combo, none of the techter weapons really seem to synergize well with fighter ones. The main idea was to weave in techs while doing physical damage with my dual sabers or arts, but techs come out really slow in comparison, and can’t easily be dodge cancelled leading to some awkward pleas for a resurrection. Maybe I just need to get better at timing, or maybe I should’ve gone with a dual saber WAND multi-weapon.

@grayman9701 3 жыл бұрын

There is merit to using the techs uncharged, you don’t have to charge them and in fact Gifoie uncharged is the strongest dps if you can spam it. 10 uncharged zonde leads to Zonde clad. Same with Barta and Barta blot. Just gotta get that rhythm down.

@TehWafflebob 3 жыл бұрын

Wait, you're telling me I should be able to sway punch 3 times in a row?!

@haltechecu5710 3 жыл бұрын

and we hit 6k subs POGGERS

@myonwontstfu 3 жыл бұрын

+40 foursis daggers possess merely 12 more base damage than +40 trois daggers, while offering only a purely defensive yellowtext, while Trois gives you *static* crit bonus of about 7% if we're to assume it scales linearly. On top of that finding fixa 5 trois is easy and incredibly cheap, in fact, just yesterday I bought myself one for just 5k on thorn ship. ON TOP OF THAT, 4* potentials offer 1% less potency boost than 3*. //Note: only resurgir, actually. Foursis does give 1% more that Trois, but that doesn't really change my point at all 12 base is not even a 5% difference(edit: 4.25, actually) and if we take in account that one most likely won't come across a fixa 5 foursis, while 3* is basically common, that difference becomes even smaller. Not even mentioning the difference yellowtext brings, which may straight up offset the base dmg diff, even if we assume you find a fixa 5 4*. I believe you severely underestimate static passive crit buff in no crit environment. 3* is a perfectly viable dagger solution that's also easier to access, while bearing minimal cons if any at all. Not speaking for other weapons. Also, while we're at daggers, I believe what they need the most is not additional mobility. Daggers absolutely lack in PA power thus I believe that taking some bursty heavy hitter multi-weapon is going to be most optimal way

@tjl9458 3 жыл бұрын

4* potentials potency are less than 3*? No, not really. The 3* are 17% base and 22% at rank 3. The Resurgir 4* is 16% base and 21% at rank 3, with a crit potential. The Foursis is 18% base and 23% at rank 3 (rank 4 is 24%). So, the Foursis has 12 more base damage and 1% more potency increase. So, you're looking at a lot more difference than you suggest.

@myonwontstfu 3 жыл бұрын

You're correct, I didn't doublecheck that. I also overestimated 12 to 5% instead of their "more real" ~4.25, so it's not really a lot more than I suggested. I'm not proclaiming 3* is a superior gear option or anything, but it's nothing like 4* "blow it", not when their yellow only gives potency against potency **and** passive crit buff

@AcidSnake87 3 жыл бұрын

Ok so help me understand. If I’m playing hunter, and I take level 25 sword and multi weapon it into a sword / spear, do my spear attacks become weaker even though spear is part of a hunters kit? Or will the de buff only occur if I multi the sword with a non hunter weapon?

@Pheezzy23 3 жыл бұрын

hello im new to pso and i was wondering if the flat potency for foursis only applies while the barrier is active?

@justuswilson517 3 жыл бұрын

I personally feel Talis outputs enough damage to be a main weapon. Its damage is quick and consistent. I know I keep coming back to it.

@TruxtonII 3 жыл бұрын

I really just find Talis stances overall more useful to me than charged techs in certain situations, especially against the current UQ bosses, both of whom are weak to Zonde, a tech I find in its current state to be unreliable against moving targets. The AOE stance PA is amazing in huge groups and has better coverage than charged Gibarta and comes out faster than uncharged Gifoie or charged Foie, and the single-target stance PA tracks enemies when they're moving far more reliably and consistently than any of the Zonde techs actually do. On top of that you get Tricky Capacitor, which not only does damage but also restores your entire PP gauge when it lands, combined with PP Conversion your downtime doesn't have to be very long at all, and it still gets damage increases from Photon Flare. Way too many people sleep on Talis thinking it's a worse Rod with some gimmicks but those gimmicks are a very viable playstyle in and of themselves in the current game, the only real drawback IMO is the lack of a guard, but you could compensate for that with Multi-Weapon or just stick to evades.

@nottobay6768 3 жыл бұрын

I'm wanting to run resurgir rod and stack crit for dps because I still haven't adjusted to rod wa and am still more comfortable with dodge, however even though I'm te/fo I keep getting one shot by the aoe of the 2nd stage of the Nex Aelio fight in the forest story quest so considering at least temporarily using Foursis rod.

@anniedarkheart5224 3 жыл бұрын

Mechanically, you're losing quite a bit with Te/Fo for Rod. Fo not only gets +10% damage on Rod for main, but Fo main has a big Attack jump from Te. Hunter sub can make up for Shifta's defense while still enjoying more damage, pp gen, and Photon Flare for slamming bosses during chain downs/breaks/status from Fo main. Eventually when you improve, you could simply switch out of Hu sub, this philosophy of fluidly changed based on skill level would also be a con to Res Rod for crutching on the rationalization of not needing to learn the new gameplay. Foursis Rod is a good line for you in that the shield can help reduce the impacts of your mistakes and save you from 1-shots while sporting higher baseline than even Res Rod. To each their own though. Enjoy. :)

@nottobay6768 3 жыл бұрын

@@anniedarkheart5224 point isn't that I'm trying to not learn the parry because I am, it's not I've gotten quite used to dodging through things to reposition, so I'm trying to go for mixing between both and I may end up going back to running a wand/rod because that weapon combo is fun.

@nottobay6768 3 жыл бұрын

I guess 15% crit boost really isn't that good is it. I guess I do Foursis.

@anniedarkheart5224 3 жыл бұрын

@@nottobay6768 Interesting idea, lets find out: Using a level15 Forcer (591 attack) and pot1: Res no-buff = 973.6 EffA Foursis = 992.77 (+1.9%) Res crit-buff = 1002.52 (+2.9%. +0.98% bigger than Foursis) In case anyone is curious about the math or want to adjust level/class/potency: (1.2 x 0.05 + 1 - 0.05) x (240+591) x 1.16 (1.2 x 0.05 + 1 - 0.05) x (242+591) x 1.18 (1.2 x 0.2 + 1 - 0.2) x (240+591) x 1.16

@joshlex0190 3 жыл бұрын

TD base + wired lance multi is really gud. Fighting Midair all day plus force class as a subclass

@dakodablack7312 3 жыл бұрын

How does one increase ones chances of getting the cattleya sword

@joejunior4700 3 жыл бұрын

I need an advice, I'm a ranger main with a force sub and I'm currently equipped with a 2* multi-weapon of rifle + launcher but resurgir AR is so expensive. With that in mind I want to transition to a Vialto launcher base + vialto talis sub multi-weapon and use the talis basic attack and its potential for PP recovery and let the ease of use of launcher PA do all the work. Of course I will lose the WB which is pretty annoying as a ranger but it's relatively reachable. What do you think?

@Domuh 3 жыл бұрын

I'm a ranger main and force sub as well. I went rod + rifle as my main for farming mobs with lightning and the other rifle AOE (forgot it's name). Don't forget the blight rounds which allows me to do a lot of damage. I also have a vialto launcher atm which I plan to use for bossing with the laser PA. Together with the blight rounds, it completely destroys bosses with the Force pp increase active skill. I'm trying out Vialto Launcher with maybe a vialto talis as well as a resurgir launcher and resurgir rifle to make it more convenient for me to blight rounds then laser. Good luck.

@joejunior4700 3 жыл бұрын

@@Domuh Yeah... it's annoying to lose the blight rounds cuz it's just so good, if only resurgir AR was cheaper.

@francismendiola5057 3 жыл бұрын

Question, I noticed that resurgir buff procs even when you are using a different weapon. at least on ranger. Where will the buff apply? to the resurgir weapon? or the one that I'm currently using at the time

@doggindr1 3 жыл бұрын

I'm doing MG/Rod mutliweapon. So only 1 choice available to me at 4stars. Resurgir squad!

@midend 3 жыл бұрын

I run a 3* Terseus Partizan with fata 4(5 is pretty expensive) and i have about 21-24% unconditonal crit chance, so that's a cheaper alternative imo

@rijinn727 3 жыл бұрын

3* series are over looked by a lot of people just because they want more dmg but +21-24 dmg at max grind isnt much if you can have a high chance of extra dmg. But its all about preferences i guess. Im using a theseus rifle/launcher mix with fatale 5

@vegitohaze2081 3 жыл бұрын

He just said that even at max that is only comparable to the base version of a 4*. It’s a cheaper alternative because it’s worth using.

@Shirodx 3 жыл бұрын

What do you mean by "Multi weapon"? Thanks.

@sam___seed 3 жыл бұрын

You can combine certain weapons with each other

@rovaljax 3 жыл бұрын

Im happy i made my +40 foursis rifle/rod multiweapon. I just need to work on its potential though. You know i may try a vialto launcher/talis multiweapon as well. Sadly I didnt put in points for talis skills but eh I can manage. Talis' weapon action and access to techs and its tech altering PAs combined with launcher can help ranger/force players continue to lay on damage.