【PSO2NGS】Why do I play Force/Hunter? (Rod/Wired Lance Multi-Weapon) | Mini-Guide Commentary

[@chillguy9891]

I’m force, I use Talis multi weaponed with a rod so that I have instant access to rod guard and can immediately counter with elemental bullet. Also being able to cancel Talis stances with the guard and start quick casting with photon flare feels really smooth. This also allows me to use tricky capacitor for mana regen and the Talis WA for even more regen. Currently loving it!

[@joshuabadach1448]

What series are you using for the rod talis?

[@joshuabadach1448]

@@reis3542 that’s why I was asking, I don’t think that series has a talis counterpart. I’ll check again when I’m home but I’d be using that instead of wand sub.

[@joshuabadach1448]

@@reis3542 oh no, I stand corrected, apparently it’s all weapon types in that series. Going to make a change when I get home.

[@joshuabadach1448]

@@koifishflavor half the potential is wasted on them. You get 21% potency and the sidestep crit. I get more (personally) out of that than a damage shield

[@ashleybricco4107]

I also question this due to needing a resurgir weapon. You gain huge DPS when you guard with the rod, both for the elemental bullet and for barta blot/zonde clad contribution. So as a force, I rarely try to dodge anything. The 40% damage resistance from foursis seems way better, especially to avoid being one-shot after failing a guard. Talis to me seems overcomplicated for no real good benefit, but maybe that's just me.

[@SeibaXIII]

Is it just me who wants to Multi Twin Daggers and Wired Lance just so they feel like they are in Attack On Titan? :eyes:

[@wowtac547]

Also great for getting enemies that are high up

[@MrHalstedt]

Love this dude, nice to appreciate its not so "cookie cutter" and allows flexibility for playstyle preference

[@dragonandante]

I play the reverse Hu/Fo. I really love WL. And having added pp recovery and access to techniques make it real fun.

[@iloveyouanim3]

Same love it and I thought I was deferent

[@infinitykiyen6270]

Yeah like Fo is kinda best fit with Hunter as sub. For some reason adding other class with Force kinda not quite fit. Even techter's damage boost only works as a main class so that's also out... It's weird but what do you know? Echo from PSO2 Force/Hunter is actually a foresight for NGS lol She's ready herself for NGS lol

[@rovaljax]

I use force as a sub for my ranger. Liked to support my friends via weak bullet and elemental damage and i dont have to get into the thick of things.

[@tangomango5080]

same. i love supplying elemental backup and being a 1 man artillery

[@ArmasX]

I absolutely love your Theorycraft, good sir.

[@Carolyne_games]

Having played the old PSO2 for several years, the way classes work in NGS seems a lot more forgiving. In some ways there are less “experiments” to play with when it comes to class combinations and skills, but choosing a sub class is a lot easier now. Hu for defense, Fi for down damage boost, Gu or Fo for PP regen. As for Ra and Te… they don’t seem to do much as sub classes. For most classes, can’t go wrong with sub Hu or Fo.

[@jojobii]

ngl I base my subclass on whatever I want my subweapon to be, as I don't main a single one given the amount of weapon combinations between classes, there is quite a lot of room for experimentation >w< then again, for a single weapon setup, then it's a much simpler process lol

[@simz3192]

Man I really want to try this now, especially on my Killua Cosplay. Force for his lightning and he’s a “hunter” using wired lanced with Plasma hands camo to simulate his yo-yos. It’s just too perfect for character fantasy.

[@DieSerah]

Wired Lance is the Wet Dream of any Attack on Titan fan and the closet to you ever come to a good Attack on titan gameplay

[@KamiNosane]

I'm playing Force/hunter since two weeks now and I'm completely satisfied of it for all the reasons you mentioned . Can't play without the extra tankiness the hunter passives gives now. Even though I can pary/dodge most of the time, it's good to know i'm allowed of 2-3 mistakes ^.^

[@EtherealRune]

That's exactly what multi-weapons are for. Kudos for doing what let's you play comfortably instead of following some random cookie-cutter meta.

[@callofmasterchief]

I was waiting for this vid. Thanks for your hard work.

[@lukefinley6660]

Very nice, ive been running Hunter/Force with Wired lance and Rod, very similiar setup. Hunter main for insane tankiness, pretty much never have to worry about dying.

[@mcbro1272]

all I know is that using the AOE from the wired lance during PSE bursts with so many enemies being hit just feels SOOOO satisfying

[@LazerRay1]

Wired lance in tight spaces is fun during PSE Bursts, since you just turn your self into a blender

[@zephyr_monochrome]

YES YES YES. The reason I'm also playing as Techter/Hunter cause wired lance has godly mobility.

[@zryptex_7041]

same but you have to get the resurgir series if you want to have a multiweapon and the RNG of that is extremely low. So i already gave up on that and started practicing my palate switching.

[@zephyr_monochrome]

@@zryptex_7041 You see, my friend...there's this thing called the personal shop.

[@zryptex_7041]

@@zephyr_monochrome i've been on that for hours and i don't see much people selling resurgir weapons and it's mostly weapons i don't use.

[@zephyr_monochrome]

@@zryptex_7041 There were plenty of resurgir weapons last I checked. But maybe it's just on my ship. I'm in Ship 3 btw. You?

[@zryptex_7041]

@@zephyr_monochrome same ship 3 too, but i don't see any resurgir weapons at all, either a glitch or people aren't selling them.

[@piro_ch]

While lock on to an enemy and holding a movement key to the side, holding Wired Lance's WA will let you swing the weapon around, dealing some good amount of AOE damage while also recovering your PP, ending up with a final strong hit!

[@joshuabadach1448]

I do fo/te myself. Use to the souls series so it feels like the enemies over broadcast attacks for parry counter. The rod counter is all I need and I run te skills that increase photon blast charge rate. It’s hilarious cranking out hyperbeams the second the cool down is ready. May I recommend going techer hunter for you? The synergy between the wand and hunter skills is amazing. Guard on normal attacks with techer and all the other goodies with hunter and still maintaining the ability to use techs. Throw in self buff and you hit a level of spell sword bullshittery that is a great time.

[@captRhay]

techer can guard on normal attacks with a wand?

[@joshuabadach1448]

@@captRhay for sure bruv. The skill is either wand gear or wand lovers off the top of my head. Activate it and time your normal attacks with the enemy’s and you’re near untouchable.

[@captRhay]

@@joshuabadach1448 didnt realize that, thnx for the tip!

[@joshuabadach1448]

@@captRhay for sure! Read the skills though, I don’t recall exactly which one but I know it’s there.

[@joshuabadach1448]

@@captRhay just checked, it’s wand lovers

[@shino52123]

I'm force main but I have tried out many different combination. I used Techter/Force with Rod/Talis multi, Force/Hunter with Rod/Wire multi, and Force/Techter with Rod/Talis. From my experience, I like playing both wire and talis as a mobbing tool where both have their pros and cons. Techter/Force if I wanna play a more support Force when providing Shifta/Deband, Photon Blast Gain and CC to bosses. Force/Hunter for the same reason in the video. Force/Techter for when I wanna be more offensive and Techter tree provide me skills from force tree so I save skill points from Force tree to use in other. For wire, you have great mobility and mobbing and with the help of force eradication pp gain, you are able to mob fairly well without worry about pp all to much. Wire is reliant on Eradication PP Gain to keep up their mobbing since they can't kill as fast as talis, but they can AoE longer than talis. I would also not really take hunter Slow Landing Charge for wire since it doesn't have any charging PA and use that skill point somewhere else. While for talis, they can AoE elemental damage around them, in doing so, provide better utility than wire since they can freeze those belly of the mob to kill them. They also can benefit from Eradication PP Gain but not as much wire since they burn PP faster than wire, but they have access to the own PA, Tricky Capacitor, as a way to get back all their pp they lose when you land the hits of it.

[@Azelyra]

Great point on the Slow Landing Charge! Thank you!

[@anniedarkheart5224]

It's cool that you're having so much fun with Wire, I think it's fun too! Even if situationally niche, being able to survive an additional hit (+50%, or +33% with Foursis) makes the effective survivability in the Hunter subclass look better in practice than theorycraft (which mathematically assumes 0 overkill damage). The Foursis line has some of good multis for Rod. FoGu can go Rifle for that busted AoE and extra PP, but metagaming Hu sub is style!

[@LazerRay1]

I run a Force/Hunter on my alt and she has a Foursis rod/wire lace as her primary weapon and a Vialto talis/spear as the secondary, the rod/wire gets a lot more use since that multi-weapon works well in most situations, since the rod handles the spike or elemental damage and the wire lance is an AoE fast attack with gap closing. The two multi-weapons also make for fun surprise attack switching which fits well with the trickster concept of my alt since I made her as a kitsune.

[@Indignation211]

I think I've settled on Fi/Hu Knuckle/Sword. At first I didn't see much value in a multi of two near functionally identical weapons until I realized I could outsource the Knuckles' counterattack skills to the Sword and the Hunter skill tree, thus freeing up some Fighter SP. Both weapons being in the Cattleya series helps.

[@touchthebacon5447]

I've been going FiHu for both wire Lance and extra health, the ability to say "you can't run from me" when an enemy tries to move away from me with wired Lance is great.

[@dolphinboi-playmonsterranc9668]

I had to go with Hunter Sub cause Braver counter was really hard at first. I multi-weaponed wired lance for the WA utility, but I ended up really liking it. I used the Wired Lance for AOE clearing more often than the AOE slash Katana has. What really bugs me about PSO2 isn't getting knocked away, but being barely hit and then everything decides to attack me at once and I can't do a damn thing because I'm in flinch animation.

[@Niloklives]

Been really enjoying Ra/Fo. Sticking the rod/rifle together and launcher/talis together lets me cast spells and stay mobile while enjoying relatively good damage and safety. I feel like I haven't fully tapped into this class combo's potential yet and it already feels really good. This game definitely seems to let you lean into flexibility and play how you want without feeling like you're giving up anything by not focusing on a single style.

[@crazyninja4828]

im currently running Gunner/Hunter, i use twin machine guns for regularly mobbing and breaking the bosses while I use the sword to get big bursty DPS on a boss while they're down, I am really enjoying this combination because I like the mix of fighting long range as well as being able to get up close and doing big burst damage and the Hunter Skill tree helps a lot in reduce any damage i take whenever I have the boss's aggro

[@FeralHidaru]

I played through the main story as Fi/Fo and it was fun. Decided to give Gu/Fi a try, and multi weaponed my tmgs with a wired lance for the weapon action and its so much fun. Use tmgs until enemy is downed, gap close and switch to knuckles to pummel the enemies then back to tmgs to disengage when they get back up.

[@remvilliers]

I’m also Force/Hunter - Talis + Partisan (multi weapon) Talis for its 3 shoot modes on top of 2 sentry types, until enemy is weakened & then super armor jabby jab with partisan PA, using all pp from the bar.

[@TheRealSethMorrison]

I'm running Force/Hunter for style points. I love the image of my character using the same weapon to melee as well as cast techniques, so my current goal is to find a good-looking camo that's compatible with both Rod and Partisan.

[@LazerRay1]

Check the upper floor shops on the PSO2 side, there are some decent camos that cover several weapon types at once, including rod and spear/partisan.

[@AnimatorZeeVIDEO]

I'm in pretty much the same boat. I'm not the best at dodging things all the time, and I was getting tired of being one-shot by things, so I went with a hunter sub. After all, that extra bit of damage doesn't mean anything if you keep dying :'D also as someone who really enjoyed wired lance in the original pso2, I was super SUPER happy with them in NGS.

[@Baucie_Bauce]

You've convinced me to try using wired lance with my Gu/Hu

[@NotASuspicousPerson]

I'm a Techter / Hunter, using Talis, Wire-lance and sword (no, not multi, mostly due to not having the same weapon affix), playing on controller. Talis for backing off, and attacking from distance and downing them with elementals. I don't use spread mode, and mainly use talis for single-target dps. WL for gap-closer and AoE mob clearing, sword for close range DPS. (planning to sword-base multi weapon WL). Basically, instead of looking for synergy and combos, just broadening my arsenal for flexibility.

[@lege3018]

I'm playing Fo/Te, as Force has plenty of utility skills I wanted and Techer sub lets me get them, essentially being like free points on my main class. While I love Rod, I'm aiming to have a Force proficient in both Rod and Talis, especially with the 4* Vialto Talis having a 10%/15%PP regen (attack + passive) potential, it's like having a free Gunner sub. I've been grinding my units a lot, which has given me a fair amount of survivability. I haven't had the need for defensive bonuses so far.

[@MyEvilTaco]

That’s pretty much why I play fc/hun survivable one shots is damn good.

[@Talinthis]

I was trying to figure out the Talis as I am a little confused with them... so you have Foie Barta Zonde(Fire Ice Thunder) and then Gifoie Gibarta Gizonde from the techniques... when you use one of your aura shots to enhance your arsenal, they both seem to enhance to the EXACT same attack and do the same damage. what is if any the advantage of using the latter?(only the enhanced shot, with convergenace shot or spreadshot active ). Been trying to find a guide about them but i don't think anyone has one

[@dankhorizon]

So far I'm on max-chill mode playing Rod on Force/anything. Steadily got the other classes to lv12. Now gonna lv.20 Force, then enjoy something else.

[@fujiwaraasakisvodch.1815]

Man's playing a Spellsword in this game

[@benw7616]

I play Talis TMG, the mobility from tmg and the ease of being able to move fast while regaining pp is great My class combos are Force/Gunner for my main solo play while i use Tech/Force for party play

[@miriam6822]

For anyone interested in upping their defense without necessarily going for a Hunter subclass (which requires a lot of points invested into Flash Guard), I highly recommend checking out the Vialto Armor units. Without augment, Vialto Armors gives you 30 more HP for free, up to 90 if you equip three. With very affordable augments like Stamina II and Alts Soul II, you can go for up to 50 HP and 2% Damage resistance per piece, for a total of 150 HP and 6% damage resistance with all 3. 150HP alone is almost a 50% health increase.

[@taskforcehide1645]

I play launcher wielding front liner healer Te/Ra. Yeah I love launcher.

[@roadblock99]

@Azelyra what's the name of the accessory you're running, the pulsing shield, I went looking for it the other day but forget the name??

[@chestelemms219]

I thought I was weird for doing this combination as well for the exact same reasons! Survivability aerial movement and fun factor lol

[@jimjones9631]

I've been running Force/Gunner for the extra PP gain. I've been finding rod feels much better and i love the quasi-rod phantom feel with it

[@KryyssTV]

The devs just need to give other classes more mobility options as at present enemies move around so much that unless you're ranged or use wire you're spending too much time chasing after them.

[@EldasHellsing]

What "other" classes?

[@KryyssTV]

@@EldasHellsing Professions. Roles. Archetypes. Whatever you want to call them.

[@legobricknator]

I doubt that they need it too much, almost all melee class can stay in the air long enough with the slow fall skill

[@KryyssTV]

@@legobricknator It's not about staying in the air, it's about gap closing.

[@Jeepod]

Ra/Hu here. Noob/new player to PSO2. I took An easy range with armor buff from sub-class for that exact reason. Play safe, try to survive that way my uptime for Dps as better chance to stay up. (Not using Hunter weapons yet, but might inclined to multi-weapon either a partisan or wires, they seem fun :P )

[@iReapez]

Side note, I see a lot people using wires, so do I, but what I also found out recently is that you do not need to use same class as the multiweapon you are using. So was a fi/hu using twin/wire combo but now I am using fi/gu with same multiweapon, you can still use the weapon action of a class u don't have on ur multiweapon, just no PA's. So you can take advantage of the wire mobility while not being a hunter.

[@alatusnagi3235]

I currently play Te/Fo with Talis. Most of the time I cast Techs like a normal Force would do but against groups or downed enemys I go into talis mode and start blasting. Having access to shifta/deband and PB charger while also having the PP regeneration stuff if the Force sub class makes this build rly solid for me! Also I'm really bad at dodging/shielding and this has none of these mechanics but there is room for it with rod multiweapon.

[@vinny9500]

I am personally playing with Force Techer. This allows me to use both rod and talis since I can unlock almost everything for rod under the force tree and put points into the talis skills and barta/zonde skills under teacher. Right now I don't have that much trouble using rod's counter but I am planning on switching up my mouse and keybindings. Right now I use a mouse with 1 - 12 on the side so using skills and resta are instant. But I plan to remove the weapon action off all my pallets and swap out the side of my mouse for a 2 button side and map the weapon action to one of them. So I assume I will die a lot more with all my characters and classes. Thank you for this I will try it out while I test my new method out.

[@stepbro6646]

How is force dps looking in NGS? Is it not shit anymore compared to other classes like in base pso2? I really love playing magic classes in mmo but on base force seems very lackluster in terms of dmg compared to other classes. I was wondering if they addressed it on NGS? im kind of confused since youre mostly just enabling youe wiredlance via force techs. So are techs still shit dmg?

[@axpekt_]

So how can I get the wire lance? And will mine play differently because I have hunter as a main?

[@Bilal-Ahmed2001]

same have force (main) and hunter (sub) .The reason its fun and i like how it feels playing it even if i am getting 2 short in the game .

[@D.A.R.C.I.]

you add mobility options to any game and its instantly enjoyable. cant wait to see all the weapon tier lists that have wired lance in S. anyway, my stubborn ass didnt want to use a lance because of character theming, so i made a sword/rod instead. was that a bad idea? is going hunter/force instead of force/hunter also a bad idea?

[@ArgonPSO]

Actually, speaking of skill tree reset passes; Do you reckon they'll give one out when they fix fighter's "bug"? I already used mine at the start of the game because I wanted to change my subclass fo tree to a main class one, and then I ended up not liking partisan and it was the only hu weapon I invested in x.x.

[@mohammadmoumen]

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[@warkiller]

At the moment, I'm still a bit unsure on what class to use as sub on Force. I've been trying Techer for that extra PB buildup, and for spending points in Talis without doing it on Force, and I've been trying out Gunner for the extra PP recovery on attacks. One thing though I am mostly sure of is I'll probably won't stick to Talis in the future. I tried them for a bit, and that's the weapon I mained when I put Techer as main class for a bit, and while it's quite interesting as a weapon, I have some issues with it mainly due to how its vertical tracking is severely limited compared to the Rod. That and the Rod's Guard WA is honestly so good. A big thing to keep in mind about the elemental bullets when you do a counter is that those 2 bullets will count as extra uncharged elemental attacks for ice and lightning, which helps buildup those sigils faster, and thus help improving your damage further. There's another reason for my pure focus on Rod right now, and it's the fact that I am still using endgame Klauz gear from PSO2. That gear is ridiculously strong, and I even tried to make a +40 Foursis Rod with as many big stuff I could put on it...and there barely was any difference in the damage between Foursis and Klauz Rod. That alone made me think it might be safer to just keep stockpiling materials for the time being and keep using the Klauz gear for the time being. I know you did a video that compared damage stats between Klauz and NGS 4* weapons, but I'm not sure if that video took into account the fact that Klauz gear might have 8 Legacy affixes on them that can give some huge damage improvements, thus making it harder for NGS 4* gear to compete. I will say though that NGS armor would give more defense than Klauz gear, but again, Klauz units with 8 Legacy affixes would have a lot of extra damage stats. In that case it would be more of a decision between wanting more damage or wanting more survivability, which would also basically tie in with your personal skill and confidence as a player. For the time being, looks like I'll be sticking to my Klauz gear until we get new rarity gear that is actually a clear improvement in damage. And I'll just keep stockpiling materials so I have huge reserves when the time comes.

[@iloveyouanim3]

I play the same but the opposite.. I use force for bosses. Love it

[@ShinkuNoKishi]

I'm going for a very far range playstyle with Fo/Gu or Fo/Ra and a rod/rifle mw. The reason for rifle is simple: I enjoy Homing Darts too much for mobbing and the Rifle normal attacks feel better to use to regen that PP than rod's normal. Gunner is just awesome for offensive PP recovery which complements Force's natural PP recovery well when I'm just attacking all day. I know Ranger doesn't provide much in terms of sub atm, but I sometimes keep a launcher weapon swap handy (and might make a talis/launcher mw).

[@arcrous9474]

Finally...After 84 years

[@friponX]

Hi, is there a reason why you have opted for Fo/Hu instead of Hu/Fo?

[@Smol_Cookie]

I'm also using Hunter as a sublass for my Gunner. Unfortunately Gunner has no vertical ability so having the wire gap close really helps a lot. The guard on the wire weapon action is also a lot more forgiving than s.roll, especially during things like the triple laser or explosion from nex.

[@ProjectKingpin]

I'm gonna try this.... We AOT now.

[@mrultima9466]

My main is TeHu/Sword Techter. Incredibly fun. Admittedly I feel like I did the skill tree kinda poorly and am tempted to use the skill tree reset since it's probably going to be half a year from now until new skill points can be gotten. Right now I'm working on RaFo (at level 15) and it's a pretty crazy combo. The PP regen buff + spamming the Ranger crowd control PA melts PSE Bursts. Next up I plan on going FiGu (then to get the subclassed things to max I guess HuFi, FoGu and IDK what I'll do to max out Gunner.)

[@lucashutchinson1931]

FoFi with rod and twin daggers I don't know of more fun then casting and then flipping through the air after and enemy and it also makes me feel the most like phantom for now because of the photon bullets and the twin daggers follow up after a pa

[@TheRapidVengeance]

regarding multiweapon do they have to correspond to you subclass ? or doesnt it matter for example im fi/hu so sword and dagger but what about sword and rod ? also if ur hunter sub how does flashguard work because other classes dont guard they parry ?

[@matttownsend8406]

To use the a weapons pa/tech you need to be the class, however you can use the normal attack weapon action independent if class. E.g. you could multiweapon a wired Lance and use the weapon action grapple and not be a hunter. I think the hunter guard things is with hunter weapons only isn’t it?

[@Eiszahn]

I am a Fighter/Gunner (started like that and never changed it). I have 3 weapons equipped of which 2 are multi weapons. Slot 1: Rifle (i use it when i am eating while playing or when i dont have any more healing items in the near vicinity) Slot 2: Double Dagger + Double Saber (my main dmg source as julians dances first hit together with the double dagger charge skill is a great and pretty much instant gap closer with huge burst dmg as well as huge spam dmg potential) Slot 3: Double Dagger + Wired Lance (meant only for utility when bosses keep flying around all over the place) What weapons are you using?

[@AlterRaigo]

I play Fighter/Force and it is a wrecking ball of damage. Yeah, a tiny bit squishy but with all the mobility and counters Fighter has, survivability is kind of second nature. :)

[@Icu282]

Sword is pretty good for moving around too with it's mobbing skill. It kinda reminds me of Safoie Zero from base pso2 except its a damage skill and has a bigger radius. I know base pso2 had a similar PA for sword too, but it was stationary, slow (like everything sword was in base pso2) and had a smaller radius.

[@taki2406]

One of my char is Fi/Hu with Twin Daggers + Wired Lance. Wire Lance is indeed a very good weapon. Extremely good aoe, gap closing, guard i-frames. Not very good for bossing 1v1, but that's why it's daggers as base weapon and wire lance as an AOE + Gap closing utility. AMAZING. And about talis.....I've almost decided of maining it as a Te/Fo. It's amazingly good, Honestly! The only issue with talis is that it's one those few weapons that doesn't have any counter/guard capability, and very less s too :(. As for dodging is considered, it didn't feel very good to me. There are times when it's unable to cancel the animation, and i end up getting hit before it can proceed into the dodge animation. And if we think of overcoming this issue by simply Multi-Weaponing a good counter/parry weapon-action, it doesn't work very well because of the fact that as soon as you use the WA of the secondary weapon on the MW, you will lose the talis stance and will have to recast it again. So tl;dr talis is kinda mushy if not played safely from distance, and to make it even worse the only good 4* weapon, i.e. resurgir talis, needs us to dodge or block attacks to activate it's potential.

[@sonicmoviefan063ez8]

There is also that passive the hunter has that allows you to live with 1 hp and super armour instead of dying

[@Vintasticvin]

Iron Will is main class only

[@Kenjirou69]

Gunner / hunter with tmg and wired lance here. The mobility provided by the wired lance is very useful. Although I'm wondering if there's a resurgir wired lance in order to multi with my resurgir tmg.

[@magnusgodrik9870]

Hunter/fighter here. My multiwep is sword/wirelance to close any gap and partisan/doublesaber just to hit hard. Im pretty much tanky and hit hard as fuck

[@Mooiiike]

Glad to hear you are human that thinks logical, unlike some elitists that just care about big dps number with absurd expectations. Have good day arcy bye

[@conk_kreat]

is there any reason this works better on force with rod than on techter with wand?

[@mickeylikecrazyy]

I'm playing Ranger/Force. What would be a fun multiweapon for me to try?

[@KryyssTV]

Launcher has proven to be great for massive AoE damage. The Fear Eraser death laser is also great for downed enemies.

[@alexmo9299]

I find going rifle/rod is a really good option. Weak bullet makes up for a 10% damage loss of using subclass weapons. But the rod provides elemental damage for downs, turning ranger into a really strong dps support. With mobility, aoe and defensive options with the rifle/rod multi-weapon. And your launcher provides really good single target damage when you can get the aggro off you.

[@KryyssTV]

@@alexmo9299 I'm fairly sure elements don't cause extra damage, they just trigger status effects more easily if the target is weak to that element.

[@cosmiccroon2656]

I play Force/Ranger and created a Foursis Rod/Rifle multiweapon. I gotta say that I love the added mobility and quick pp recover as a technique user.

[@jadencatameo466]

im also using Rod/WL multiweaps but as an Fo/Te. I simply dash through enemy when its downed and spam meele & techs since uncharged techs for me are dealing much damage compared to charged ones.

[@IndyAlexander]

Why are people questioning this combo? they removed different main attack stat types... its literally now whats fun or what synergy they have [spoiler alert not alot of stuff synergise like they used too] this could change in the future with higher lv cap and newer skills but as the game is now lv20 cap theres is literelly no reason to play old combos try out new combo's you would never do until higher lv caps and more fleshed out combo's

[@HitomiOokami]

I'm loving force so far even if I'm still really getting a hang of the controls (key/mou) with how "floaty" it is, I was Eitol in base but only for few weeks before NGS dropped. I've been stuck on going Fo/Hu or Fo/Fi I really like the Wire-Lance concept but I also like the Twin Daggers of Fi. I heard someone saying you could equip a non class weapon if all you want is the gap-close but that doesn't seem to be true? I've not unlocked Sub classes yet so that might be why I don't see the option.. haven't had whole lot'a time to play ;w;. Would love to see your skill tree (you forgot the link ♥), been very confuzled on what to take for Force.. more specifically how much to put into pp conversion vs pp recovery boost.. like one point into conversion and its 2nd charge makes sense, but I can't help think, especially as someone who forgets to use active support skills that recover boost would do me better rather than maxing conversion.

[@Azelyra]

LOL I'M SO SORRY THE VIDEO DESCRIPTION WITH THE LINK DIDN'T SAVE, I updated it now though!

[@HitomiOokami]

@@Azelyra lol no worries, no worries, it happens soo much, friend o mine always complains about youtube not saving alll the stuff she puts into the description nearly every other video lol

[@thomaswu2373]

Does having a rod/lance get melee potency buffs?

[@noleenole8254]

I’m not sure it will be my main because I’ll main braver after August but I’m went TE/HU and loved it it now I’m HU/FO with a multiweapon resurgir sword with tali’s. Max pp recovery boost is insane. I’m swinging the sword all the time and my normal attack is like PP battery. It’s amazing. I aoe with the talis. This may be my style until braver hunter take over.

[@MKP2W]

Wired lance + any melee is pretty fun

[@hunterkono824]

Am I the only Techer Ranger? I also run Machine gun/talis.

[@DanielsRiotVan]

Cool video. I'm running Hu/Fo, Force is OP right now with the PP boost, amazing as a subclass for any build. I also use sword because I just love to parry every attack, it feels like a dance, good rythm and flow.

[@DimitriKatsuro]

I main fighter on base PSO2 and NGS, my second favorite class is bouncer but meanwhile im waiting for it, im working on a full tech build with my second character, why full tech? because i never did that on PSO2 (and honestly, i didn't liked force too much there). I had to invest heavily on Fo and Te trees for maxing my techs and be able to use Rod and Talis, so far everyday im getting better and now i aggro much more constantly the enemies, im having a blast playing this way but for my 4th or 5th character im thinking in going a mix of melee/tech build as a techer, cant wait to use wired lances because it look much better than the ones on PSO2!

[@zellarc8843]

i think Fo/Hu is a good comnination. Personally, i went with Te/Hu as i just prefer the hard hitting elemental wand as it gives a lot of dmg. Still trying to get good with the parries in this game tho

[@Ruriko-Is-Playing]

Using force as a main right now just grinding sub class. Though I use Ranger more as a subclass when farming/grinding because homing dart is just to op

[@Voicelet]

I main Tech/Fight so I have Deband to cover for my frailty, though Wand/Knuckles suffers a lot from verticality and enemies running away that I understand your choice of Wired Lance. But combining Wand's normal attack with Knuckles' PAs is too fun to give up.

[@kevadu]

Fighter isn't even all that frail in this version. In fact it's probably the 2nd tankiest class after Hunter, not to mention that all the weapons have some sort of parry. "But overload" I hear you cry. Look, overload now only lasts 30 seconds and has a horribly long cooldown, which leads to me saving it for downs anyway. Even putting survivability aside that's the best time for DPS. And by the time the down is over half my overload time is gone anyway. It's a non-issue...

[@Voicelet]

@@kevadu I consider anything that dies from Nex Vera's triple laser frail and I still am, so... And who cries "Overload" when Fighter is my sub anyway. Everybody with a second to think knows when to use their skills, your lecture is unnecessary, thanks.

[@hunterdream4284]

They realsed the new game?

[@nottobay6768]

I just finished the fo tech tree on my main, it's a sub class to te so unfortunately no pf unless I want to spend my rest pass to get it or run an alt, wand/wand but as fun as that combo is, I'm considering just switching back to rod. Wired lance is fun though definitely my favorite hu weapon.

[@gurenlagan1307]

Haha i also am force techter and I feel that frustration.

[@Han-ep5ry]

What a coincidence!! I am playing force / hunter as well and have multi-weapon my foursis rod and wired lance. I kept thinking I wasted 200k for nothing cause as a force, I try to keep a long distance and never really utilise the wired lance. But your video has provided some good perspective of how to better utilise the wired lance and now I dont regret my decision as much. LOL!!

[@Jammy._.]

i made a ranger/force which is really good at farming and also boss fights

[@Vกับเวลาว่าง]

What is your outfit name pls

[@kavanahthestoic9325]

Don’t sleep on hunter/techter! Js

[@ZakKypto]

Techer and Gunner for me😎

[@3nvis1on]

I use force/tech and I can survive 4 hits from the world boss. I think your armor is just low.. I use 1 and 2 star armor but lvl them to 28-29 defense and pretty much survive every fight in any events.

[@Roadrage855]

Started as a gunner and picked force for pp conversion really. Got to lvl 16 and then swaped to Force/Gunner, but now I only ever use the rod and I never use anything else. Like I don't even care for the gunner tree I'm just not that interested in anything else right now.

[@Sullyvian]

This is the same thing that happens to me with gunner. Even though I kinda do like being a squishy person its gets frustrating when after 1 screw up you're on the brink of death (My health right now 272)

[@Forgetthereality]

Did you get the gauranteed 4star armors?

[@HeavyHoggJP]

I'm force gunner...is that a bad build ? I'm brand new to pso2. Just hit lvl 1184

[@studiesinflux1304]

Why would one of the best PP recovery class combinations be "bad"? (Both Force and Gunner skill trees have +PP regeneration bonuses)

[@HeavyHoggJP]

@@studiesinflux1304 as I said man I'm brand new to the game. I joined an alliance n they don't even chat

[@studiesinflux1304]

​@@HeavyHoggJP Silent alliances were common in base PSO2 because there were alliance buffs (so "alliance" was just a bunch of solo players keeping the alliance buffs up but otherwise no communication). Also in-game chat is pretty limiting (in both base PSO2 and NGS). It's worth looking for alliances with out-of-game communication including Discord.

[@HeavyHoggJP]

@@studiesinflux1304 ahhh ok I'll give that a. Try. Not sure the purpose of an online RPG if you don't communicate but ok 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@kazukinowa]

I play hunter sub cuz i cant be bothered to dodge and evade Nex Alios AOE so i just pop the damage reduction and keep on wailing on it 😂

[@ArdynSol]

So you're using Force main Hunter sub? 😮

[@ShiniDoesDubz]

I'm switching to Ra/fi because blight rounds I feel like has more value in regards to DPS

[@AnotherSyouz]

i play force techer and theres a easy way to not get one shot by enemies well 2 using the rod weapon action and parry things and evade xD