I would love a more in depth review of this one! Been thinking about getting one since I was very pleased with the comfort of the PSVR1.
@VRFlightSimGuy29 күн бұрын
Cheers Jon
@GYGOtv29 күн бұрын
OK Buddy we need to chat a bit! This video couldn't have come at a better time for me. I'm REALLY SICK of not having my Black/Blacks... and my Crystal has REALLY been pissing me off lately so this video was exactly what I was thinking about. SO, questions for you... IF you were buying an OLED headset, would you recommend the PSVR2 or the Big Screen Beyond? Second... Artur told me that the local dimming on the VR1 is going to be "very close" to OLED (gee where have I heard that before)... so my question to you is, do you think the VR1 is really going to get that close or is it just going to be similar to the Crystal's local dimming. I'm just really disappointed that no company is looking at putting OLED's behind Aspheric Lenses... seems like a no-brainer to me, I know it would be expensive but I'd pay for something like that. Anyway rant over... just would really like to get your thoughts! Thanks in advance my friend, great video.
@VRFlightSimGuy29 күн бұрын
Hey Mark. Sorry it's not more in depth, I was very conscious not to spend too much time in VR since I haven't seen this friend for years. You won't like my answer, oddly, the best VR headset for OLED black levels is the XR-4! Crazy isn't it? I prefer it to the BSB, simply because of that damn glare. You'd hate it mate, so don't buy the Beyond. As for the PSVR2, the colours and black levels are awesome, but it lacks the clarity we both love. As for the VR1, I'll have the final version soon...
@GYGOtv29 күн бұрын
@@VRFlightSimGuy Thanks for the reply, ya the glare on the BSB is exactly what has kept me from buying one so far, so you are just confirming what I already know in my heart... I guess I just have to hope Artur can work magic with his local dimming... I'm so SICK of my Pimax, I'll never buy another one of those again... just need an alternative that gives me a similar experience. Maybe I should just give up VR and go outside for awhile :)
@VRFlightSimGuy29 күн бұрын
@@GYGOtvWhat issues have you been having mate? Doesn't sound fun 😢
@4secsharkmr35229 күн бұрын
Heya Mark, as Steve said, if you hate glare, don't go with the BSB. I use a Crystal on my motion rig and the PSVR2 on my gaming notebook together with my second rudder pedals and a cheap joystick in my sitting room (wife friendly 😂). I find flying at night, dusk, or dawn very enjoyable with the PSVR2. I got no glare, but mura. At night it is not much visible, but you can see it when switching on the nav lights in pulsing mode e.g. in the TBM. Sadly it is like Steve said very sensitive regarding head position. So, using it in a motion rig could be annoying maybe. Because if it gets out it's sweetspot, the visuals are getting blurry. Thanks for your Mechwarrior video by the way. Take care. Shark
@GYGOtv29 күн бұрын
@@VRFlightSimGuy Let me see if I can be kind here... Pimax needed to send me a new headset and this new one has a bad battery that won't stay charged, the Chromatic Aberration is really bad in the lower 1/3rd of the lenses and I found a stuck pixel on the left panel. It is amazing because my original Crystal looked great but this replacement is garbage. I think the Quality Control over there is lacking and now I understand why some people see crappy visuals in it and others find it the best looking image they have ever seen... I've now had both!
@blackmac197022 күн бұрын
Great quick take. Thanks for taking the time to make this.
@VRFlightSimGuy22 күн бұрын
My pleasure!
@davidkennedy754927 күн бұрын
Yes I would also like a deeper review. Quest 3 vs Psvr2. Particularly usb c vs display port.
@cataliniliescu8228 күн бұрын
Please try to make a more in depth review of the PS VR2. I am really interested to find out more about it from your point of view.
@EritoKaio29 күн бұрын
What I hope is that based on how fast the adapters sold out, sony sees that people want VR and they get incentivized to make a PSVR3, because I feel like they could make an absolute unit with some upgrades, the bigger downside is im not sure how they would deal with higher pixel counts on the console, maybe with some upscaling, which does seem to be something Pimax is also working on.
@VR_Aviator29 күн бұрын
I've been waiting for this.
@VRFlightSimGuy29 күн бұрын
Sorry it's only a brief summary of about an hour in the headset. If people are interested I can do a more detailed review in the future :)
@MrZoops1729 күн бұрын
I just said this out loud when the video popped up! lol.
@Gorilla_Jones29 күн бұрын
I don't see any muira. That's totally depends on the person. I use XTAL 8K and I'm fine with everything you hated. Makes me think you're spoiled by Crystal. Sorry I disagree with you.
@VRFlightSimGuy29 күн бұрын
No need to apologise, I appreciate your opinion
@beanos228728 күн бұрын
I've used the Quest 3 and the mura on that is very noticeable. I've heard the PSVR2 is worse, so I can't even imagine how bad that it. Maybe you should go to the optometrist?
@4secsharkmr35229 күн бұрын
Heya, good one my friend. ❤ VR is so individual. I see, like you instantly Mura in the PSVR2, but no glare or SDE. But if you can get one for gaming on your, go for it. I played Arizona Sunshine 2 in it and Half Life Alyx. That is so cool. Thx for the video and take care.
@VRFlightSimGuy29 күн бұрын
Thanks buddy. I think for those who already own a PSVR2, or if you can get a great deal on one, this is a great option to enjoy PC VR and maybe try some flight simulation. I'd have loved to spend more time with it. One thing I wish I tried is supersampling, but my time was limited as this wasn't the main point of the visit. Take care bud.
@4secsharkmr35229 күн бұрын
@VRFlightSimGuy Yeah exactly. Supersampling brings not much more clarity in this headset. It is getting a bit sharper but not that much.
@ThorNjord28 күн бұрын
Would love you to try it more to have in depth review
@docslappy894624 күн бұрын
Interesting reading all the comments. Particularly those arguing for their favourite headset. The reality is there is no one best headset for every user. Sadly. Cost, value, resolution, lens type, oled, lcd, local dimming, PC Spec, dynamic foveated rendering, wired or wireless, comfort, build quality, software, glare, sweetspot, fov, glasses wearer, ongoing support, etc etc. So ignore the negative comments. Thank you very much for keep bringing these reviews and trying to bring out the pros and the cons. I currently use Quest 3 for gaming and Reverb G2 for car and flight simming. I can't get on with compression especially in driving sims so the quest won't be used for simming. I also think it's the least comfortable headset I've ever owned. In term of physical comfort and eye strain. Unfortunately, some of my online races are 6+hours so the weight of the Crystal is also off putting and still fairly expensive. But the drop in resolution of the PSVR2 is off putting for flight sims. I need more money so I can have different headsets for different needs😀
@adink648627 күн бұрын
PCL is the upgrade for G2/Q3 because you are actually moving from 1080 to 4k resolution. Both the G2 and Q3 have higher pixel density than the PSVR2. The Q3 clearly beat the PSVR2 in the visual clarity department due pancake lenses and much wider sweet spots. People can argue about the compression vs display port until the cow comes home. I personally don't notice any major compression issues with the Link cable or VD. The PSVR2 is a very good display port permanent power OLED headset ONLY if you can get it during sales for $350+ $60 adapter. Unlike Quest 3 you don't need to buy additional accessories like head strip and facial interface to make it usable. The resell value of the PSVR2 is way higher than other headsets due to the PS5 console. And this headset will be totally worth it ONLY if modders can add the eye-tracked foveated rendering to this thing.
@MrZoops1729 күн бұрын
Giving a psvr2 video while using a PCL. Haha!
@VRFlightSimGuy29 күн бұрын
That's how I roll ;)
@didrickkazowski234019 күн бұрын
My observations align with yours. I returned mine, and will hold out for the meganeX super light , or Crystal super oled. Thanks for the review!
@Art-Sin22 күн бұрын
It might be helpful to provide a more in-depth, back-to-back comparison. The more you examine the details, the more differences become apparent: One issue I noticed with the PSVR2 is its small sweet spot, which requires me to move my head physically to see dials and instruments. In contrast, with the Quest 3, I can simply glance around using my eyes. This feels much more natural and results in less neck strain. The high-persistence OLED display on the PSVR2 creates motion blur, making everything appear slightly dreamy when looking around. It’s never as smooth as the Quest 3, where motion is more solid. While the colours on the PSVR2 are vibrant, they appear over-saturated, giving everything an almost cartoon-like appearance with no option to adjust them. On the other hand, the colours on the Quest 3 look much more natural, with plenty of customisation available. The PSVR2 controllers are clumsy and difficult to pick up while wearing the headset. The passthrough feature is vastly inferior to the superb passthrough on the Quest 3, where I never need to remove the headset, even for tasks like typing or using a plane’s HOTAS. The image quality on the PSVR2 is also lacking; it feels as though you're looking through a dirty screen, anti-sde screen filter, mura, black spots, only 18ppd vs Quest 3's 25 ppd. Switching to the Quest 3 immediately after is a relief, as the details are crystal clear, and there’s no motion blur. Performance on the PSVR2 is slightly better, but the Quest 3’s ASW allows it to achieve better overall results. The only areas where the PSVR2 clearly excels are in contrast and black levels. In every other aspect, the Quest 3 outperforms it. As a result, the Quest 3 remains my daily driver for MFS, while the PSVR2, along with the PC adapter, is back in its box and ready to be sold.
@georgefaulk252828 күн бұрын
Congrats on the up graded Internet-connection. It really does make a difference.
@VRFlightSimGuy28 күн бұрын
Cheers mate!
@leoncechrist29 күн бұрын
You are reviewing a psvr2 while you are using a different headset. I don’t get it.
@VRFlightSimGuy29 күн бұрын
This is not a review, I'm giving you... Actually, instead, watch the video. Rather than me explaining it here 😁
@tonyk391221 күн бұрын
Pico 4 Ultra released in China today it doesn't look like it has a display port but it does have WiFi7
@Huddison29 күн бұрын
Congrats on your upgraded internet connection Steve; makes a real difference eh.
@VRFlightSimGuy29 күн бұрын
Thanks mate. It's made such a difference!
@paulsleighty28 күн бұрын
I'm still thinking pimax Crystal light is going to be my next headset with the current available headsets.
@paulbellino533019 күн бұрын
I know it's a first impression but the PSVR2 is by no where near its PC best. I believe it just needs a little more optimization by Sony. What you and most people fail to realize is on the PS 5 this headsets display is much better. All I am saying give it time.
@guybrushthreepwood300226 күн бұрын
I'm off the opinion, if you have a psvr2 already, and a pc, then game on. But I wouldn't in a month of Sundays get one over a Quest 3 for a mulitiude of reasons. However, if psvr2 helps grow the pc vr space, then that's only a good thing.
@eugenecia942428 күн бұрын
I have much more vof in my psvr2, than my pico 4 and also better edge to edge clarity on my psvr2, no problems with clare at all..my pico is getting dusty, play more than just flight sims. Pimax will never come because I hate too small vof especially with flight sims, waiting for at least 130 real vof.
@AtotheC_177628 күн бұрын
Ive been hoping you'd make this video !
@VRFlightSimGuy28 күн бұрын
Sorry its only a brief first impressions
@AtotheC_177628 күн бұрын
@VRFlightSimGuy its all good. If you didnt live on the other side of earth I'd let you borrow mine. Ive only used it on ps5 though. I've been curious about the PC adapter.
@JonJon-dk3nh29 күн бұрын
They was on sale for 350 quid last week.
@VRFlightSimGuy29 күн бұрын
Are you tempted?
@JonJon-dk3nh29 күн бұрын
@@VRFlightSimGuy I watched some reviews when I saw it was on sale and see that the resolution is lower than the Reverb G2's resolution. So decided against it.
@docslappy894624 күн бұрын
Thanks
@VRFlightSimGuy24 күн бұрын
Thank you for your support 😊
@therealcyril29 күн бұрын
The more I use my Reverb, the more I realize it's the best investment I made in my sim hobby. 4 years and counting... 😎
@VRFlightSimGuy29 күн бұрын
I'd absolutely agree with you!
@docslappy894624 күн бұрын
Ditto
@willbennett135928 күн бұрын
What did you internet connection go from and to? My photogrammetry still isn't good sadly and I think it's wifi speed
@VRFlightSimGuy28 күн бұрын
From 25mbps to 500 👍
@willbennett135928 күн бұрын
@@VRFlightSimGuy oh wow much better. Mine is going up in sept from 40 to 900gbps. Buy the way I just bought the dof h6 and you are welcome to come and try it if you wanted. I'm in West Yorkshire .
@VRFlightSimGuy28 күн бұрын
@@willbennett1359Damn, I was actually in West Yorkshire today on the bike too!
@willbennett135927 күн бұрын
@@VRFlightSimGuy DM me if ever you do.
@chrismcbean314128 күн бұрын
Sadly most KZbin channels today are too focused on the negative aspects of things, I don’t like this, I hate that, I played the original MSFS so am absolutely fine with what is on offer today, just saying
@VRFlightSimGuy28 күн бұрын
Usually I get accused of being too positive. I guess you can't win
@chrismcbean314128 күн бұрын
I’ll take positive over negative any day, I’m a 65 year old gamer who started out with Pong , Black and White screen with a single knob, I now own a PS2,3,4 and 5, PSVR 1 and 2, gaming computer with HP Reverb G2, play MSFS 2020 and DCS, I’m in total awe of the new technology, my old eyes probably can’t detect Mura or Screen door 😂
@franciscoborges959128 күн бұрын
we want hi tech😊 crystal super, eye tracking.. better lenses😂
@richardmartin623129 күн бұрын
Does it work on the MS store version of FS2020? I see the steam one mentioned. Just in case it only works on steam. Thanks. Great stuff as ever.
@acurisur29 күн бұрын
PSVR2 uses a Steam driver to work on PC, outside of Steam it might not work as other stores use their own drivers in my own experience.
@VRFlightSimGuy29 күн бұрын
Yes Richard. It's just a case of changing runtime. I was quite surirsed how well Steam VR worked too. It's got better over the years.
@jamesleicher27 күн бұрын
Have a look at Altvr he did reveiw with sunnies on
@metalceesie21929 күн бұрын
i realy like to see how a night flight is in the psvr2 on the pc..
@VRFlightSimGuy29 күн бұрын
It's amazing, but it does lack clarity compared to what I'm used to now. Also the mura can be annoying.
@metalceesie21929 күн бұрын
@@VRFlightSimGuy how is the local dimming from the crystal vs the psvr2 at a night flight?I tried the orginal crystal but i hated the blooming with the local dimming,and hated the warping at the side off the lenses
@VRFlightSimGuy29 күн бұрын
@@metalceesie219Much better
@metalceesie21929 күн бұрын
@@VRFlightSimGuy so the warping and bloom are gone on the pimax crystal light?
@metalceesie21929 күн бұрын
@@Tom-van-Rijnn no i didnt i sold my orginal pimax chrystal already because of the bloom with local dimming..but the worst was the warping at the sides of the outer edge off the lenses
@jrherita29 күн бұрын
1:35 Thanks for calling out the Fresnel lenses - most commenters are skipping this part. Hard to go back from pancake.
@VRFlightSimGuy29 күн бұрын
My pleasure. It's a BIG turn off for me.
@eugenecia942428 күн бұрын
Have more clare on my pico4, have 100% edge to edge clarity on my psvr2, always stay in sweet spot with a headband mod. Bought psvr2 for playstation, now have great comp glasses for 59 euros.
@hanswurst381128 күн бұрын
reviewing the psvr with the crystal on is a bit annoying :D
@harrys860029 күн бұрын
I hate screen door effect more than anything so not for me. But wonder how many see it as a good option if they have a PS5.
@johnwhitfield354728 күн бұрын
With foveated rendering it's almost non existent. But that's on ps5. Not sure if a lot of bells and whistles carry over to pc
@ChipDavis16029 күн бұрын
Next review - dpvr e4 black. I have never heard of this but have seen several sim racers talking about it. Wonder how it is for flight?
@VRFlightSimGuy29 күн бұрын
Check out my DPE4 Review on the channel, although I'll also be getting this 'new' black edition soon...
@EinkOLED29 күн бұрын
Can it display HDR in MSFS?
@VRFlightSimGuy29 күн бұрын
I've no idea sorry
@SparkySven29 күн бұрын
did you drive your ice beamer 4h long after I posted seb's video on your Discord in HP G2 section? Thanks mate for your pro eyes point of view to get a Sony PSVR2 sense in MSFS2020 with your precious Storm Force Intel / NVidia RTX 4090 beast to a Sony VR vriend commute. You are the absolute best mate. It's still a win I think to get an OLED with DP cable to replace my G2 and I might get away with my current AMD GPU also because it's not a massive resolution upgrade to it can still take it.
@VRFlightSimGuy29 күн бұрын
I did indeed, although I will not divulge the speeds reached in my 3 series enroute ;) I had been planning to see him for a while and since he's decided to get the PC adaptor cable, I just had to try it out. I really wanted to fly for a lot longer, but it would have been rude since I haven't seen him for years!
@petervasseur385529 күн бұрын
I don’t know what you’re all talking about, Samsung gear vr is the best headset ever!
@VPsMethicalCondition-uy4yi29 күн бұрын
Google Cardboard bro
@VRFlightSimGuy29 күн бұрын
🤓
@petervasseur385528 күн бұрын
Virtual boy bam!
@oliverf94428 күн бұрын
Mine has no mura. Nothing that’s noticeable for me at least
@poolhallshark29 күн бұрын
👍👍👍👍👍
@b6s4shelter29 күн бұрын
For $350+$50+$10 for dp cable maybe but at $550+$50+$10 it doesnt add up. Unless you have PS5 with GT7 etc... i just cant see this as an option
@shojo870828 күн бұрын
No matter how high the resolution, if there's a pentile display you'll always see sde. They really need to stop including them in any vr headset.
@daniellegraham27 күн бұрын
Pancake lens is king for FS
@jamiesalmonsculpture859929 күн бұрын
Been waiting for this. Too many other reviews obviously over hyping it
@VRFlightSimGuy29 күн бұрын
Yeah I don't get it. I mean, it's a great headset, but the lenses, mura and resolution isn't up to 2024 standards now. However, it might be a great option for some, especially if they already own a PS5.
@jonmabec29 күн бұрын
Comfort is also a big plus. With the price dropping it is also one of the cheapest HMDs around. How would you say the sweetspot compares to the Bigscreen Beyond? I have had my Beyond for a while now. While I love the sharp display and comfort, I am getting a bit annoyed by the very tiny sweetspot.
@father-sonflightsimulator383829 күн бұрын
I have a ps5 but psvr2 would still not be worth it. There just aren’t enough great ps5 games for it so why buy it just for msfs?
@VRFlightSimGuy29 күн бұрын
Because people who use MSFS, would easily rack up hundreds of hours in that title alone.
@acurisur29 күн бұрын
@@VRFlightSimGuy It's too expensive, it was only discounted for a short time, it 's back up to full price now so more expensive than the 128GB version of the Quest 3, which is plenty of storage if all you're going to do is play MSFS2020 on it.
@phil_543028 күн бұрын
GT7 and Re8 alone are worth the purchase.....best gaming experiences I've ever had
@bj00rn29 күн бұрын
You kinda said it, in a nice way, but this is not the way forward for anyone with a Reverb G2. I'd rather upgrade my Windows and be without a VR headset for a few months (there are quite a few headsets coming out in the next wave) than waste my money on an outdated headset like the PSVR2. It's not a sensible investment for the future.
@VRFlightSimGuy29 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching, you understood the video perfectly
@brunogt198229 күн бұрын
Quest 3 is the best overall vr headset 🙇🏽♂️
@VRFlightSimGuy29 күн бұрын
Best all rounder. I was in Saint's n Sinners Retro for over 3 hours the other night.
@DJeb8629 күн бұрын
@@VRFlightSimGuybut for pcvr you said thr psvr2 was better…
@VRFlightSimGuy29 күн бұрын
@@DJeb86 Def, Display port rules. It makes a big difference. Quest 3 is the jack of all trades, it does everything well, but flight simulation is very niche and there are better options out there in my opinion.
@GYGOtv29 күн бұрын
Quest 3 is "Best Value" but not Best Headset... big difference.
@DJeb8629 күн бұрын
@@VRFlightSimGuy so it s sharper and clearer than the quest 3 ?
@evaz960629 күн бұрын
The quest3 edge to edge clarity seems to set it apart from the rest. I want this with a pimax crystal with the fov of the 8kx with good performance without having the latest and greatest pc hardware