Psychiatric Drugs Are Not So Different From Cocaine, Heroin, LSD and Marijuana: Dr. David Cohen

[@justinebourke9449]

The thing with most psychiatric drugs is that they are designed not to give you relief instantly or even soon (if at all) and they are also designed to take so long to do this and to be given longterm so that they create absolute dependence. Ask anyone who tried to come off them after longterm use , especially at high dose ( which is the mostly the normal for longterm taking), and they will tell you how horrific the withdrawals are. This suits both the pharmaceutical industry and the psychiatric industry very well indeed, its most profitable. I'm not by any means advocating illegal drugs but as said here, psychiatric meds are every bit as troublesome( in some cases , moreso) but considered safe because they're legal and controlled like the people taking them are controlled. I'm inclined to believe that they are also designed to cause the unpleasant and health damaging side effects that give doctors the excuse to prescribe more and more meds to " counteract" these Win win for the pharmaceutical companies again.. lose lose for the people stuck on them.

[@TheDavveponken]

I probably wouldn't have been so fucked up if I'd taken cocaine rather than ritalin, because I'd be more careful as it would be an experiment, but like he says in the video I believed it to be relatively safe as it was prescribed by a doctor, an expert. I now know they know nothing about what they're doing - they're just reading off of a script.

[@mikeonthetube79]

and what about all those thousands (millions maybe) of people for which these drugs saved their life, like me..

[@TheDavveponken]

@@mikeonthetube79 They probably could have been "saved" through non-drug means

[@pineappleflow2876]

@@mikeonthetube79 Well that's not a solid argument, even if they offer some sort of help by numbing the person emotionally, that doesn't undo the damage they cause. It's like a drug addict saying "without these drugs i would have committed suicide a long time ago, so therefore these drugs must be doing me good".

[@juntaboy7260]

This is a seductive argument that a lot of people are taken in by and for good reason, but it's not that simple. The pharmaceutical industry is corrupt and backwards, particularly with regard to the dubious studies about the efficacy of SSRIs, so-called "SNRIs" and antipsychotics. Almost all the psychiatrists I've met personally and most that I've heard about have been combative, ignorant and dogmatic to say the least. At the same time, older tricyclic antidepressants and especially MAOI drugs from the 50s that are completely out of vogue in western psychiatry such as tranylcypromine are extremely effective for a wide range of disorders, work remarkably quickly and involve considerably fewer side effects (though most of the literature would tell you otherwise). My life was an incredibly dysfunctional nightmare for a decade as I went through a battery of first and second-line drugs like well marketed but mostly useless SSRIs and I improved very little from every lifestyle improvement you can care to name. Within six hours of taking 30mg of tranylcypromine I forgot what the interminable hell of severe depression was like.

[@justinebourke9449]

Most drugs are addictive, or have the potential to be, that is by way of needing more for effect over time and causing withdrawals when stopped, the difference with psychiatric drugs is that the prescribers will not inform properly of this before prescribing and they are totally unaccountable for the damage and suffering they cause.

[@MedicatingNormal]

Ah, but there's a difference between addiction and prescribed physical dependence. What you are describing is tolerance (needing more) and that does not necessarily mean one is addicted. Someone can become tolerant and require more of the drug to achieve the same effect just from as-prescribed use which results in physical dependence alone.

[@billybandyk0720]

@@MedicatingNormal RE: psych med tolerance; the manner in how psych meds work, I'm much better off drinking beer (which has alcohol). Alcohol affects the brain exactly like psych meds but alcohol leaves the body much quicker than psych meds do . Besides; I consider beer as REFRESHMENT (NOT A DRUG bc of its alcohol content).

[@ryanp7822]

I've been doing cannabis for over a year now, it's recreationally and medically legal in the state I live in and I don't regret it bc I was on pysch meds As a teenager, and they messed with my mind entirely. Cannabis helped me quit pills and smoking ciggeretts or vaping nicotine. Cannabis is not a gateway for me. If it was a gateway??? Most likely to the fridge.

[@ryanp7822]

I was on so many meds from 5 to 16, including Stimulants depressants anti pyschotics, and more. I am turning 18 this September. Cannabis saved my life 🍃. I don't mind carefully dosing on natural pyschelics once in a while with friends. But like everybody always says. Be careful how you use something.

[@Rollwithit699]

​@@MedicatingNormal Please share your views on professionally done ketamine infusions designed to treat CPTSD and stored trauma.

[@filipmarkofilipmarko4928]

Excellent speech, how the FDA approves such drugs (antipsychotics) ? In my opinion these drugs have horrible side effects like erectile dysfunction. Hopefully something will change with these antipsychotics in the future. Today antipsychotics act as chemical castration.

[@estelled389]

Oh absolutely right . Horrendous

[@Native722]

These drugs need to be banned

[@justinebourke9449]

And chemical lobotomy

[@billybandyk0720]

@@justinebourke9449 Completely agreed.

[@ryanp7822]

I'm so glad cannabis is recreational in my state bc. Cannabis helped me quit big pharmacies for all my years of taking pills and other substances that i was prescribed or sold. Luckily, it's over. Ive been doing cannabis for a year, and it's improved my life, and there's nothing wrong with cannabis at all, whether it's marijauna or hemp. 420 > Pills

[@karinamarieantoniaelliott7299]

this is very well put, and i agree on certain terms that it isn’t a conventional remedy. i recently finished emdr therapy at the age of 15 and knowing how bad ptsd and that mindset can be, we should be able to be open to at least trying and having fda approved studies

[@ryanp7822]

We need the government to stop the war on drugs and then the production of what was once illegal can be better dosed

[@anacionqtfixo]

all these videos are so sharp and succinct! information couldn't be clearer.

[@TheSpiritofBeatbox]

You are talking about real Plant Medicines vs Bullsit Marketing Poison.

[@SpartanFitnessMma1]

Exactly

[@EmilTolonen]

Does he refer to antipsychotics and antidepressants as well?

[@capresti3537]

Of course. They are all Neurotoxins.

[@godschild2432]

I agree seeing this title

[@KatelynRichards-p6y]

Weed is better than all psychiatric drugs though. Weed is a harmless pain reliever and anti anxiety medicine and some people use it to reduce tremors and go to sleep.

[@michael_stanley]

dr cohen for prez

[@apputaiparambil]

Marijuana among LSD, cocaine and meth. Give me a break. 😂😂😂

[@cindywhittaker3003]

Right? Seriously!!! Not even...

[@Lazlo.]

Marijuana is a mild psychedelic, it can give you similar insights and induce psychosis like LSD. But you are right, marijuana is nowhere near the harder drugs like LSD, cocaine, meth.

[@branlex1315]

@@Lazlo. Yeah. We shouldnt act like its something that doesnt not give you health problems but comparing it with cocaine its nothing

[@519MaLoNeY]

So you didn’t watch the video.

[@truedmer4941]

@@Lazlo. lsd is not a hard drug you misinformed tool. How ridiculous

[@joseywales1150]

I did not feel addicted to the drug... I got more of a high from arch

[@519MaLoNeY]

Brilliant

[@juntaboy7260]

If a person's mental distress or emotional problems are severe and intractable enough that even with a very good therapist, exercise regimen, meditation etc. their suffering continues with little improvement except over many years, a lifestyle the maintenance of which is an extremely difficult proposition for that person, are the side effects of the drugs they take really that important if the primary effects are profound and happen relatively quickly? How much of a person's life should be spent in a state of serious distress, hopelessness and suicidality and all that that brings with it before asking whether taking drugs that allow that person to live a meaningful existence might be worth the tradeoff? If you've been unfortunate enough to plumb the depths of serious depression or the alienation and paranoia involved in the sort of distress that leads to a diagnosis of an anxiety disorder then you'll appreciate the fact that there are far worse realities than the often manageable side effects and physical addiction that psychiatric drugs involve. It's farcical, simplistic and without hyperbole very dangerous to suggest otherwise. It's a nuanced topic and highly individual.

[@WAT-RecordsProducing-zz5wx]

Or you just "make your own trials" with the drugs you're promoting , or have a car collection from promoting.😂

[@sobberin]

What you gonna do, what you gonna do, when medical psychiatrists will come for you?

[@tarunarachmad3976]

1:29

[@simonhill6267]

Marijuana, lsd, and stimulants are so entirely different to eachother they should not be mentioned in the same sentence together.

[@cowboyjohnsontown]

Of course they're different, but this is a conversation about the similarities of psychoactive drugs.

[@heretic5116]

If that's what you took from this brief talk, then you are seriously part of the problem with society. Come off the socials, and.. Read

[@billybandyk0720]

Simon Hill; is it bc stimulants, LSD, & (non-medical) marijuana r NOT DR-PRESCRIBED that make it different than dr-prescribed psych meds & there4, shall not b mentioned in the same sentence 2gthr? Just askin'....

[@wastemore4043]

Try Ritalin in a dark room

[@billybandyk0720]

@@wastemore4043 I did (as a child in the 1970s). I was prescribed Ritalin @ age 4 in 1971 (I'm 55; DOB: 7/20/1967); I outta know RE: the harmful effects of Ritalin.

[@thebluecollarbadass9945]

I agree 💯percent and that’s why I smoke cannabis cause it’s safer and the withdrawal is minimal at best❤️🙏🏽✊🏽

[@IyokuUnlimited]

I’m sure the intention of this is well-meaning, but it only perpetuates an ugly stigma that makes things needlessly difficult for those who have their quality of life dramatically improved through the use of drugs like methylphenidate. While they may work in similar ways, there is no “safe” amount of cocaine to take and its use is almost always highly damaging. By comparison, mph/ritalin is entirely harmless when consumed in safe quantities by adults suffering from ADHD/PTSD - I’m on a prescribed dose of 10mg a day and it allows me the mental clarity to function that I otherwise simply don’t have, and there’s no temptation of abuse due to the body’s natural adaptive processes lowering its effectiveness when consumed too regularly or in large quantities. It’s extremely sad that correlations keep being drawn between ritalin and cocaine or meth, as I feel like I’m being viewed as an addict looking for a fix each time I have to get my script renewed. This rhetoric is not helpful.

[@BL-sd2qw]

Lol, thousands of people will differ from that "completely harmless" thing.

[@TheDavveponken]

Yeah, I've been fucked up since I took me prescribed ritalin for "adhd", only 18 and 36mg. But it was enough to cause my pituitary gland to crash and get erectile dysfunction, loss of feeling in the groin, issues concentrating, headaches, you name it. As I've read more about adhd I've realised it's all bs. I described my issues and that I'd stopped, bu didn't even get tested (they took blood tests before, but then what for?).

[@billybandyk0720]

Outrack; being classified as "mentaly I'll" or my condition (Bipolar Disorder) as a "mental illness" PERPETUATES STIGMA!!!!!!

[@billybandyk0720]

Dr. Cohen had the perfect ending 2 this segment by mentioning about "the effectiveness of insulin 4 diabetes". Since most mental health personnel luv comparing mental health conditions 2 diabetes, that'll give some reconsideration RE: the necessity of psych meds as MANDATORY/REQUIRED "treatment" (especially when insulin is OPTIONAL as treatment 4 diabetes). The biggest difference btwn mental health conditions & diabetes is that 1's from an ENVIRONMENTAL IMBALANCE & the other's from a nutritional imbalance. Insulin addresses the root cause of diabetes (high blood sugar) whereas psych meds (albeit antidepressants, antipsychotics/neuroleptics, benzodiazapines, stimulants, etc.) r definitely "chemical pacifiers" (i.e.: designed 2 silence u when defending urself against being abused, bullied, & harassed by other people). Besides; has a diabetic ever been subjected 2 a court order bc s/he refuses 2 take insulin 2 treat her/his diabetes? Regardless; we MUST STOP DELUDING OURSELVES RE: MENTAL HEALTH CONDITIONS = DIABETES!!!!! Just bc u don't like how some1 behaves DOESN'T JUSTIFY THE NEED 2 MEDIC8 SOME1 2 "CONTROL" HIS/HER BEHAVIOR!!!!! 2 which I say; FTS (Fuck That Shit).

[@trixiedelight9874]

Another "psych" rx prescriber...

[@cowboyjohnsontown]

Dr. Cohen is anything but your regular "psych drug prescriber." Check out some of his books if you're curious.

[@billybandyk0720]

Trixie Delight; "PhDs" DO NOT PRESCRIBE MEDS @ ALL; ONLY MDs & DOs do.

[@billybandyk0720]

​@@cowboyjohnsontownW/all due respect, my friend; Dr. Cohen's a PhD (NOT a MD nor DO). He DOESN'T PRESCRIBE MEDS @ ALL!!!!! However; u r aware of his collaboration w/Dr. Breggin called "Your Drug May Be Your Drug Problem: How &:Why To Stop Taking Psychiatric Medications"; right?

[@trixiedelight9874]

@billybandyk0720 thank heavens I don't need him 😂😂 do you?

[@trixiedelight9874]

@@billybandyk0720 either way, only for a whack job to k ow