The Psychology of Elon Musk (Chapter 1)

[@leylaS07]

Recently someone asked him in an interview what he liked the most about being a dad. And his answer was something about "participating in the perpetuation of humankind by giving your DNA" or something like that. Something completely disconnected from the actual experience of being a dad. He is pretty scary to me.

[@hannahaguirre9465]

Yeh. It really bothers me that he has been bringing children into the world in almost a mechanical way. With multiple women, and strange reasons. Like there is no actual love or feeling towards his kids. It is indeed scary.

[@TinaBUTCHER-ph1ph]

He's actually a eugeneicist, he believes it is the responsibility of people of high intellect (apparently like him) to outbreed us plebs

[@rivercah]

Yes! I agree. He seems obsessed with birth rates and having as many biological children as possible himself through IVF. I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s part of a cult where having as many children as possible is desired, honestly.

[@Discordia5]

I would NEVER have a child with someone like that. I don't care how rich he was, that sounds like a supremely awful parent.

[@oliverabrajanovska9610]

He was diagnosed with ADD Asperger’s Syndrome. There’s no other/better/emotional response. It confirms everything about Asperger’s

[@ShimmerBodyCream]

As a programmer, I was shocked at how little Elon knew about coding but was making sweeping, drastic changes.

[@sgordon8123]

Sweeping changes to what?

[@JeffBostick222]

He's like Steve Jobs: He's a visionary and a brand builder. He's not Tony Stark.

[@mm5478]

Elon used his daddy's emerald fortune to buy the car company he renamed Tesla. Elon never designed a rocket. He bought and renamed the company. Even the Boring Company, the one that actually makes money, isn't his idea. Thank goodness for daddy's fortune.

[@marybawkward789]

I don’t know much about EM but my image of him has always been an extremely wealthy man that operates with the brain of an 8 year old boy

[@SugarFang]

My opinion of him, up until the Thailand cave situation, was "Oh, he must be a genius, he invented Teslas!" but his comments during that time made me actually look into him and then I learned that he wasn't really a founder, but more of an investor.

[@puddlesplasher7]

There were other electric cars on the market before Teslas

[@Discordia5]

I also lost respect for him during the Thailand Cave incident. He seemed more concerned with being the best inventor than the boys who needed help.

[@laurettelaliberte8864]

He has never invented anything. He takes credit for what much smarter people have built.

[@hannahaguirre9465]

Dr. Honda, I know you will get lots of hate for doing this deep dive. But stay strong. I don't agree with you on many things. I'm pretty conservative and right leaning. But I still like listening to you and I appreciate your analysis on things. Yes, I've felt you've been biased about certain things and that's natural and normal. I take that into consideration when forming my own opinion . I still find your work informative . I'm open to listening and learning other peoples point of views. So keep at it. Ignore the harsh comments. People should respect the fact that this is YOUR channel and you should have the freedom to have a conversation the way you want to have it. Good Luck. I feel the ick , just reading the angry comments already and it's not even 4 hours since this episode aired.

[@TinaBUTCHER-ph1ph]

It's shocking how many people are living in an identity politics bubble atm.

[@Daphoenyx]

That was such a nice comment!

[@artslexa]

I love this comment!!

[@jazzamundie4261]

You’re great ❤

[@BorisMiljkovic]

Word!

[@SoftHealingbyDanielle]

Add a deep dive on Joe Rogan to the list?

[@MathPiHanan]

It’s interesting that you mentioned Elizabeth Holmes, because since 2020, I’ve been saying that Elon Musk is the male version of Elizabeth Holmes!

[@cmarchibald]

Oh Dr. Honda, my deepest sympathies to you and Humberto. The Elon fanboys have found your video and they will never let you rest. Every time I post even a modest criticism of Elon they invade my mentions for weeks.

[@gillian2325]

I didn't even think of this when we were all voting yes/no on whether he should do this. I hope it doesn't get too wild for them

[@BorisMiljkovic]

I see the opposite in the comments :D

[@sgordon8123]

It's really ridiculous to lump people together and insult a group like that. People can have measured debate about Elon Musk. He has done some amazing things. Does that mean he is a saint? Of course not. Try finding a balanced view.

[@SamClemens-id3cl]

The most illuminating bit about Elon was this: In Elon's autobiography, Isaacson tells about a poker game where Elon went all-in on every poker hand, and lost. He kept doubling down & buying more chips until he won 1 hand. Then he quit.

[@tmtb80]

Hmmmm. That is interesting. I wonder what (if any) games he enjoys.

[@blondequijote]

I believe that’s known as the Martindale strategy.

[@georgiegirl0621]

It's a biography. Elon hasn't written an autobiography yet.

[@nissessin]

Been waiting for this one!

[@PsychologyInSeattle]

Thanks! Let me know what you think about the series!

[@MiasmaTazma]

My theory is that he bought Twitter and the world saw who he was and public perception started to shift. Now he gets a lot of hate which has made him bitter and resentful. He's now lashing out at society like a toddler via Twitter. He's now a "Disaster Capitalist" and is just harming society because he's not a cool kid anymore.

[@pinkaholic09]

And his sh*tty Tesla's are exploding into deadly fireballs. They should be banned.

[@royce1041]

Well said

[@violabeth]

Elon don’t have ideas he buys ideas.

[@llkellenba]

God, these bros. Elon is a classic narcissistic personality con. He “knows” everything in his estimation. He knows how to spin a tale and create a persona. As well as take credit for other people’s work. Brilliant indeed

[@ishagshafeeg]

Very well said. True.

[@dragonsquid]

whether I like Musk or hate him, I know that Dr Honda will explore it fully and its that i trust his exploration. I dont know if it will change my opinion, but I appreciate the scientific method and the deep dive.

[@blondequijote]

It’s definitely an interesting idea for an episode because he does have his fanboys but there’s always more to the character in the story. Plenty of rich people more low-key lives. The loud ones give psychologists more to analyze.

[@edbrown5956]

I don't watch this Dr. Kirk because I want you to try and side with my views ......I watch your channel because I want to hear YOUR thoughts. Who cares if you ruffle some feathers speak YOUR mind in psychologically informed way. I don't hate him but I also don't like AI. I'm not looking to have you side with me. We often don't see eye to eye. I STILL watch because I want to hear what YOU have to say. Haters gonna hate. (as cringe as that is)

[@wheelofhands]

Good intro to Elon's businesses. I think it was fair. My take on him as a person is that he has very few actual principles and is just desperate to be worshipped. I think that the left is more critical of people even on our side and less likely to hero worship and that is the main reason for his flip.

[@mcsarch44]

Ooo this is very insightful and to me, seems spot on.

[@Shhmallison]

If I was a billionaire I would actually help ppl instead of trying to control the future for me and my rich friends after they destroy the earth

[@BorisMiljkovic]

Like Bill Gates?

[@jadap4325]

Right and bill gates is the worst I can’t stand that demon

[@Shhmallison]

@@BorisMiljkovic ehhhh

[@English3Muffin]

I feel like it has to be rare to be a good person that becomes a billionaire. I don’t think it’s unheard of, there are people who have reached billionaire status that I like or at least have positive opinions of, but I think for a lot of them, they learned how to game the system and aren’t afraid to step on and over people to get to where they want to go. And I wonder if the richer you get, the more out of touch you become and the easier it is to reason with causing harm.

[@BorisMiljkovic]

@@English3Muffin so, like an average person with less reach

[@samanthaleigh805]

That’s why he and trump get along so well- they both don’t care and love to break all the rules

[@llkellenba]

Heard the good “businessman” label and flinch. The excusing of a terribly destructive individual with enough money to bend so much to his will. I see little to no humanity in this person. Less than zero. Anarchy and bottomless cash is a Bad combination. Business is not the holy grail.

[@AMT_823]

I enjoy your deep dives and I'm looking forward to this one! Love listening to you two talk about whatever while I'm at work...makes my mornings more tolerable somehow 😊

[@draganadc5519]

Elon Musk acts like a typical cartoon villain.

[@llkellenba]

Except his behavior has real world implications and he is a reliably unreliable personality.

[@andedom]

I think it’s more complicated than that. He does seem to actually care about sustainabile energy and the environment. He’s also had a major impact on the future of sustainable technology and energy through Tesla. If he can figure out autonomous driving, that would substantially reduce vehicular deaths and injuries. He’s working on helping disabled people to see and do other things through nuerolink (although from what I hear, the technology doesn’t work well yet).

[@ShimmerBodyCream]

​@@andedom Villains are complicated - and we all have the hero and villain archetype present in our psyche. The prototypical villain characteristics include self aggrandizement, desire for power, self-interest at the detriment of the wider population, and destruction on a large scale. I think you could safely argue almost any billionaire is a villain because of global dynamics and how we exploit one section of the population for the enrichment of a very small elite. Elon wants to continue the hierarchal system of exploitation, he brags about firing people, he has many children that he doesn't spend time with, he actively uses his business to influence world events to benefit himself, etc. It makes a lot of sense to consider him a villain because villains are about self enrichment. I would agree that no one truly is a villain or a hero - these are simply labels we use to create ideals of behavior as a social animal.

[@janeenerbaneener]

I always enjoy Umberto's creative intros 😂

[@FishareFriendsNotFood972]

I am so excited for this, how he's been running twitter has been making me scratch my head for a while

[@jazz2192]

Please take care of yourself! I remember how much vitriol came your way during the amber heard vs johnny depp trial and worry about yall. The elon camp is notorious for harrassing others online and I wouldn't be surprised if elon watches this himself! Still thank you for creating this content Ive been losing my head over the drama with elon and the power he wields over the right eapecially on twitter and his daughter and trans rights and ughhhh so much... Take care of yourselves and SO excited for this deep dive!!!

[@amitnira]

So glad you're doing this, and I'm with Beto on this. AFAIK Musk never studied anything STEM-related outside of highschool. And the code he wrote for PayPal was so bad it had to be thrown away and re-written. He may be "smart", whatever that means. But he sure isn't knowledgeable in any of his businesses, and if Twitter is an example - willing to get rid of professionals in favor of people who boost his ego, at the expense of the actual product...

[@xxistephixx]

I think as an autistic person, I can really relate to and understand both the good and bad sides of him that I wish was given more attention here

[@rachelreynolds0430]

just seeing you two interact is getting me so pumped for the anniversary show ! 😁

[@manumoreau444]

It’s interesting to see the other side of this room. The window and nature is different than I expected but beautiful :)

[@mcsarch44]

Is that where Berto is?!?!? The other side?!?!?! I thought he was in a whole other house!

[@manumoreau444]

​@@mcsarch44 I did some snooping through other videos and it is the same room

[@egreenquist]

Excited for this deep dive. Thank you!

[@ArielLVT]

Whoever edits the pods has really stepped up their game! 💯

[@briandash1351]

I came to have a view that EM and I (and many of my friends) were in the same 'tribe'. I jumped into computing in the mid-70's, and we all shared an interest in scifi, the same computer jokes, logic riddles, the same culture, that of being nerdy guys, willing to delve deeply into a body of knowledge. In the last few years going from that to feeling like if some good folks could take him aside over a beer, we could talk him down, to genuine puzzlement over his support of far-right figures. The Twitter takeover was bad but his echoing of the Paul Pelosi slander was the turning point for me. Maybe he was mugged by a liberal. In any case, the man holds his grudges mightily. The question you pose is the same one I do: how did this shift occur?

[@fmleverynameistakenx]

i thought all the elon fanboys long went into hiding since he ruined twitter, but this comment section showed me otherwise

[@FlipperKelly]

Elon Musk’s political views are very strange. Just an observation

[@Shhmallison]

You can't be a billionaire ethically outside of maybe the lottery

[@mrpablomx]

An extremely successful Musician? Like Paul McCartney?

[@privatepo5876]

Warren Buffet

[@pinkaholic09]

VERY true.

[@BeaMonz]

OMG... Imagine if Elon Musk is watching this. I bet he googled searched himself. LOL

[@mcsarch44]

he for sure has a google alert for himself

[@stellasfarm]

As a mostly conservative with some center leaning, I mostly like Elon. My biggest issue with Elon is how he has children all over that he can’t possibly help raise. The last thing the world needs is more fatherless children, even if they’re raised wealthy.

[@hannahaguirre9465]

I'm with you .

[@TinaBUTCHER-ph1ph]

He is an avowed eugenecist, he believes its the duty of higher humans (like him) to outbreed us plebs and this is how humanity evolves. He's nuts

[@puddlesplasher7]

A lot of information isn't openly shared. You'll never find it. For example, you won't find anything about the LORD Corporation and his mishandling of adhesives from that company, creating massive safety issues, then trying to blame LORD corporation, LORD corporation came out to try to solve the issue, and Musk was like an abusive weirdo who wanted these LORD corp employees to solve an issue but wouldn't let Tesla employees talk to LORD corp people... Wouldn't show them around... like invites them there and hides everyone and everything. Acted so weird. He was storing the separate parts of adhesive (its not premixed, for many reasons) in hot pole barns in Nevada desert although they cannot be stored at that temperature, but he wanted to do it cheaply, it's all he had, doesn't heed warnings or instructions, doesn't care. Didn't care about safety. He might hire good people, but he muzzles them, then fires them. Also, he buys pieces of old assembly lines from Ford and other automotive companies, pieces parts, all these companies make fun of him and aren't afraid of Tesla because they are literally death traps. You cannot take parts of multiple assembly lines that cannot work together. Assembly lines are all different and engineered down to the micron. You cannot mix bits of separate assembly lines in the way he is doing it. I know these things because I am closely knitted into these communities through my career. And this is tip of the iceberg. I will never get into a Tesla. I am terrified by how people think he even talks wisely about things; he doesn't. He is a megalomaniac.

[@puddlesplasher7]

May I also add, he didn't care about the outcome... he just bought assembly line portions to keep investors fleeced, get some deliverables (cars) appearing to be completed, but if you guys recall, that was delayed delayed delayed and the first ones caught on fire and had adhesives fail that held batteries and stuff (oh and he decided he'd use the mishandled adhesive ingredients anyway although told not to by manufacturer) .... He knew this would happen. It's all show biz baby, fleecing the investors. I don't know what he actually does care about. That's why I'm listening in, to hear y'all's perspectives.

[@L0rell3]

Yeeeyyy 🎉😂🎉😂 a deep dive!!! Love it ❤

[@musicismagic3001]

Oh, now I see this was posted 4 months ago! My, things have changed. I am so interested in your deep dive. Love your channel so much!

[@ParkourA]

Would love to hear a deep dive on other influential people like Bill Gates, Mark Cuban, Jeff Bezos. Looked through your channel and couldn't find anything. Is there one?

[@idlevision7896]

Mark cuban would be so interesting

[@andedom]

I’ve been looking forward to this one!!!

[@kendrabean2868]

I've never clicked so fast 😂 Dont take anything people say personally bc there are so many culty fans of Elon and im sure they will comment.

[@VeronicaHSong]

"Very good at cutting through red tape= EXTREMELY RICH"= Super power, apparently 😑

[@phonuz]

not quite, many people are powerful and rich and yet do not approach problems in this way. BTW, this isn't a great thing in all cases. For example, firing most of Twitter is an example of this 'super power' but it doesn't mean it was net good or ethical or even fully legal.

[@emilytamayomaher]

JUST HAD TO AGREE SO MUCH with something mentioned about people in power. It's really hard to have the technical knowledge in business or engineering to actually solve a problem. It's much easier to appear impressive or sound intelligent when you're holding the wallet and paying others to make sure the problems get solved. The humble work of making sure things add up is harder.

[@karenvermeulen3981]

As a South African, I'm so ashamed. We're good people for the most part.

[@Lily-cl6zk]

It's just such a Sci-fi unrealistic view of the world. Imagine if Elon invested in conservation projects and initiatives to develop alternatives to Plastic and fishing equipment etc. This view that we're going to put consciousness into a computer and send it into space stems from such a cold and disconnected view of humanity and what gives meaning to life.

[@satyakiranmayibhamidimarri3160]

This is the first time I am commenting on your videos, psychology in seattle. I like that you called out that extreme polarization is not a good thing to have. We all have very different definitions of what’s moral and ethical and that may certainly play into this dynamic we are in. What are the moral obligations of CEOs and business people? We are in a capitalistic society and if we judge someone based on the premise of capitalism, one who makes the most amount of money for themselves is good. But we, as humans, do operate in a capitalist way (we try not to, to the extent we can though many aspects of our lives are commodified by the bigger people anyway) and we look at Elon with a more human lens. And then we may find him distasteful. And I wonder if such people know if human beings exist outside of being resources. And have we, as a society, failed. I would love to know your interpretations of morality here. Please correct me if i am wrong - I think we use the term ‘psychopath’ colloquially to refer to a person who has no regard for others and is also likely very immoral. And that implies that we expect people, these CEOs, to be moral. And are CEOs moral? Why does Elon Musk have our attention to this much of an extent that other CEOs never did? What’s with these personality cults? I am very interested in your upcoming videos and I hope I can adopt a more nuanced view with your help instead of writing him off as a villain. (I wish we could have some philosophers also here ). Huge fan!

[@Aberusugi]

He didnt even innovate or do anything amazing in spaceX. That was his first employee, who doesnt work there anymore, and whose name are on all the patents that made spaceX cost competitive.

[@emiliecharbonneau8179]

omg ahah there's some merch with ''Take care of yourself because you deserve it you really do''. I just always loooved that sentence. Oh and very interesting that you choose Elon Musk for a podcast, very interesting character to analyse...:P

[@JamesKonzek-xr5zy]

Ted Bundy saved a girl from drowning in lake Samamish. 🙂

[@rebeccahargis9061]

I have conflicting feelings about owning a Tesla so this is a great episode.

[@ge589]

Will KZbin members have access to the videos or only patrons?

[@kirielbranson4843]

I would love to see an update on Musk after you view the Quinn video on his gaming as well as some of his tweets, discussions on jobs with Trump, and everything happening now. I see him as being one of the people who are in the middle of ending democracy right now. No laws will be obeyed. Many governmental departments will be destroyed. And I don't think I am exaggerating a bit.

[@branypoo]

DR. HONDA!! You’re talking about Elon, yeeesss! I personally have the biggest case of cognitive dissonance with EM. I LOVE him because of his space endeavors - I’m especially inspired by/fond of the Falcon Heavy project. The double booster landing… 😮‍💨 Wow. The Inspiration4 mission… Also wow. Just some humans going on a short trip to space nbd. It’s mind-bogglingly cool to me. So cool. (The Netflix documentary on Inspiration4 might still be up - worth a watch!) The trouble for me personally comes from the inability to reconcile his contributions to space and tech, with his divisive public persona. I’ve accepted that I don’t have to reconcile these opposing views. My brain wants to do that so I can just relax 😂 but ah well. I wish he would just focus on his strengths, and stay away from politics and other things. Politically-speaking, I’m a life-long liberal. 34. I know you like data, so here’s mine 😂😁

[@laurettelaliberte8864]

Elon Musk is more JP from Grandma’s Boy than Tony Stark.

[@msmendes214]

Elon going down the "replacement theory" rabbit hole & publicly pushing hatred of immigrants & trans people has been immeasurably concerning. It's gross & I just want him to go back to being "the electric car guy"

[@pinkaholic09]

We're all f*cking tired of woke-ism...

[@msmendes214]

@pinkaholic09 lol literally no one cares about woke. Just say you have sh*tty opinions about human beings and that's it.

[@kathleencochrane9698]

I hope you can mention the difference between "IQ" ieental intelligence vs Emotional intelligence. In fact many so-called savants or high intelligence people are delayed in their emotional development. I hope you are able to express that distinction.

[@coldspring22]

Nice video, but what do you say to the fact that there were many engineers at Tesla who said "full self driving" will not work on the timeline that Musk was promoting? And actually it's dangerous to falsely promote such safety critical product prematurely. And many if not most of these engineers were fired. Obviously Elon Musk doesn't know what he is talking about or is Elon actually brilliant but was just putting out nonsense to just pump up Tesla stock price? Either way it's pretty damning.

[@aliaaramzani]

I read somewhere on Twitter or was it Reddit (source not credible, I know) that he actually had a whole PR team to build up his name, and made him sound like a genius. Don’t know if it’s true. I also remember that someone in that conversation said he fired the entire PR team because he “didn’t need them” (this someone also noted that it sounded like he believed their own lies)

[@OohlalaHolly]

There’s tons of money in the things Elon musk does, he gets govt contracts

[@VermeersLens]

what about the psychology of assholes in general?

[@byleew]

I would love to see how Elon Musk scores on Narcissism. I would be great if this would be done using diagnostic criteria. If narcissistic, is it healthy narcissism?

[@adelelouise]

Elon bought Tesla he didn't create it and he is NOT an engineer 😂 he's also an illegal immigrant to the US lol

[@privatepo5876]

Agreed, Musk is more of an Edison than a Tesla. While Edison bought ideas, Tesla had original thoughts and created them. However, Musk was not an illegal immigrant to the U.S. He came to the U.S. on an F1 student visa while attending school. After dropping out of Stanford, he transitioned to an H-1B (worker) visa. He later obtained an EB-5 (immigrant investor) visa and became a U.S. citizen in 2002 after marrying an American. There was a period where he didn’t have a visa, which is when he stopped working and started the business with his brother. That time frame is undocumented.

[@pinkaholic09]

@@privatepo5876 Yes Nicolai Tesla was the pure genius, not Edison.

[@nils8584]

shitting on the conventions after you throw it out the window seems impractical but he is a dedicated man after all

[@SparklySara16]

I dunno what’s going on in Seattle but in Toronto I’ve never heard anyone say they don’t like Elon Musk?

[@samanthaleigh805]

@@SparklySara16 you guys don’t need to deal with the Trump related stuff. I imagine that’s a big part of it

[@cupcaceandchocko]

yayy!!!

[@gensal96]

The thing about SpaceX is that they keep getting these big government contracts even though their success rate is abysmal relative to NASA. They're pouring money into a company who only gets the job done every once in awhile.

[@apers5do]

I’ve never been a fan of this guy Humberto. I do trust Dr. H analysis so it’ll be a good listening. My humble opinion. Lol

[@phonuz]

Hmm, it is true that I have owned many fans over the years, but nowadays I have an external Heat Exchange Mitsubishi unit which works pretty well!

[@nataliepaad1869]

I get you. I still watch the channel from time to time, but now I mostly watch content that doesn't include him. I live in a conservative suburb and have conservative friends and family so I feel I have access to enough opinions i disagree with that I don't need another when I'm just enjoying my free time on KZbin lol

[@la_vita_di_v]

Generally I love their material but 16 mins in, I kept thinking, Humberto this is not about you.

[@phonuz]

oh REALLY?! have you ever seen musk and berto in the same room AT THE SAME TIME?!

[@sallyann985]

Reason why I find most of his episodes hard to finish, conversation always circles back to himself with little insight. Still my favorite co-host out of all three though.

[@phonuz]

@@sallyann985 not true! I think this ignores the real point, which is that there is always an insight about Berto to be returned to. And also insights about him.

[@sallyann985]

@@phonuz haha 🤣 your personality is what makes you my favorite despite the episodes with you lacking in insight 😉

[@LilBrownieD]

The recent Elon Path of Exile game fraud disaster deserves an update to this series -- it's the most obvious exposure of his childish state of mind

[@BorisMiljkovic]

Sweet Jesus... Humberto is definitely locked inside an echo chamber and he doesn't know it. Kirk is alluding to it but he just doesn't bite. It does make sense for someone who sees another person as a Santa Claus to hate them later when confronted with a real human being, so in both cases not allowing that real human to reach their intelect.

[@phonuz]

It was true. I was trapped in the echo chamber for quite a while, and even made some money on TSLA stock. But right around 2018 it started to get hard to ignore the rays of light punching through the chamber walls. Now it is unbelievable that a large number of people pretend they are still inside of a chamber when in reality they are exposed to the full UV reality. But this is what con artists can pull off: they can convince you real is not.

[@Star-dj1kw]

Restart 9:06

[@Alright70]

Times have changed. These are the new billionaires. .

[@georgiegirl0621]

If you think he is a con man....what is the con?

[@phonuz]

Tesla stock is the biggie. the valuation has been constantly and massively distorted due to musk deceiving investors.

[@FreckleFinance]

This reminds of the menendez brothers. I take the view that they were probably badly abused, but that they had other options than to murder thee parents therefore they should be in jail. But so many people think they were abuse so they. don't deseve jail or people think they deserve jail and therefore must have lied about the abuse.

[@kingfisher9553]

Why aren't other billionaires diversified and taking chances? They are. You just don't hear about it. OR, these other billionaires aren't ADHD. OR, these other billionaires are primarily interested in money, not entrepreneurial adventures; OR these other billionaires made their money in one golden area and don't want to risk it; OR these other billionaires love competing for wealth and not for blazing star risk-taking; OR these other billionaires have NEVER actually managed their own companies-- they've hired competent managers; OR, OR, OR. My dad was a longshoreman, lay preacher, livestock farmer, built two houses himself, piano tuner and musician all at the same time. LOTS of people are able to take chances, tolerate loss, try to do good in the world, etc. etc. etc. Haven't you guys been paying attention to the bullshit artists that were on the front of Time or Financial News or whatever who turned out to be massive scammers? Wow. One born every minute.

[@tracycottrell5146]

Be true to what you believe. People are confident sounding when not hopping the fence to please others, by preaching what you dont believe in. You cant and shouldnt try to please everyone. Elons a dork and likes to put on a dramamatic show for anyone who will watch. I dont think he cares unless he wants to borrow your $$$.

[@apextroll]

He is a megalomaniac with billions of dollars and millions of followers. How does one seek treatment for that?

[@SuperARCANGEL0]

The nazi elon musk fans have somehow discovered this vid

[@2lip663]

Discuss all the scams he's been part of, like SolarCity, Hyperloop, and the perpetual promise of 'self-driving cars next year.' He's a smart manipulator, but the ideas behind his projects come from other people-this is a fact. He's not an engineer, nor is he a programmer. You should look into statements from people who used to work with him and have since left. For instance, if you didn’t know, NASA achieved vertical rocket landing over 50 years ago. He frequently lies, and yet no one seems to fact-check him. Many people fall for it because they’re simply too trusting.

[@royce1041]

Asburger syndrome is what I notice about Elon

[@sipcologiaaldia-vt6qw]

📗🖍️

[@kylegwtodd]

😮😮

[@No-sw5td]

Elon Musk is such an interesting person. He’s totally a genius and you could study him just for how exceptional his mind is alone. But he’s also remarkably immature! And emotionally detached. Having a high IQ does not guarantee a high EQ and that’s fascinating to watch

[@Mattyyyyokdmsbansmsmsns]

You felt pressure just thinking about making a video about him...he owns 5 billion dollars company with real life products.

[@shelbyflamm2982]

I am a fan of your channel AND a fan of Elon! Why would that be a problem sir?

[@basilalfehaid4423]

Elon is a proud Zionist

[@shelbyflamm2982]

You blame Elon for ruining our society? That’s actually ridiculous. If anyone did ruin society it would be Mark Zuckerberg. But in truth we all play our role sir

[@ntran74]

This is not a balanced discussion when you have one person who hates Elon and calls him a conman and another who openly hates Trump.

[@Lafloofen]

Agreed. Non bias would be wonderful.

[@SamClemens-id3cl]

There aren't many, normal, sane, intelligent people who won't recognize that Elon is a command & Trump is the worst, moat-devisive president in the history of the US. The kind of people that YOU WOULD listen to.....done sound like normal or grounded people.

[@ntran74]

@@SamClemens-id3clthat’s your TDS speaking…please seek help. Like you, I’m listening to the same thing as you - Dr Honda.

[@yemio1005]

Don’t think either of them claimed to be non-biased in their views and opinions. It’s their show they’re not supposed to be, it’s not a news show

[@catherinedo4289]

@@yemio1005yes, it’s a show based on psychology. Most doctors and psychologists understand that bias is never a good thing in analysis. It can be detrimental.

[@Appleloucious]

Ooff telling us at the end that these are only glorified snippets of the whole convo which you paywalled is really lame and oyu could have been just honestly telling ppl at the beginning! You are not at all respecting your viewers time! Really lame and annoying!! One Love! Always forward, never ever backward!! ☀️☀️☀️ 💚💛❤️ 🙏🏿🙏🙏🏼

[@ntran74]

You guys should analyze the psychology of TDS…doctor, heal thy selves!

[@lindorini]

Who/what is tds?

[@ntran74]

Both these guys have Trump derangement syndrome

[@SamClemens-id3cl]

​@@lindoriniIt means trump derangement syndrome. This guy loves Elon & Musk and believes anyone else who doesn't is somehow untrustworthy.

[@edwardsbarbara25]

Agree. What is that?

[@stellasfarm]

@@lindorinitrump derangement syndrome.

[@shelbyflamm2982]

You guys are good with people while Elon is good with everything else

[@Appleloucious]

Oh dang an Elon fanatic got triggered XDDD

[@sgordon8123]

Very disappointing trivial level analysis. How often do you say "I don't know" in this video?

[@DavinderSingh-zr9fn]

these guys have zero idea about his companies 😭

[@phonuz]

Not ZERO, there's Tuskga, Spacebar, Drillbaby, and some others...

[@kdjourney51]

I’m always open to differing perspectives… but can no longer be a patron. The language chosen was loaded. It feels like an unconscious bias here. “Deplorable” is very telling. The trigger warning that you’d be hard on Elon. I’ll move on and wish you well. Sorry to have announced the departure. That isn’t a thing for me. I believe y’all may have baseline beaucracies opinions and dogmas. The tenants of those concepts do not appeal to my core values.

[@TinaBUTCHER-ph1ph]

Bye bye

[@Daphoenyx]

@@kdjourney51 "bye felicia" was already said? 🫢

[@jackyyrag]

Does not seem like you're open to different perspectives at all then 😂

[@mmboyd4367]

⁠@@jackyyragAgreed. I heard the loaded language but this prods me to listen closely for PERSPECTIVE and CONTEXT before making any conclusion. That said, I see the person has a star, meaning they are a member (right?) You can totally chose where your coin goes, but I do hope you continue to listen to one of the few intelligent discourses happening on the interwebs. And share your comments! We need diversity of thought.

[@peggyw5279]

Con artist?? Really? He is a billionaire because he has vision and ideas and can develop them mostly without government interference. And they actually do help humanity. You guys are so biased. I totally admire Elon Musk.

[@heliosphere9789]

Let's take a break...? Every few minutes?

[@feelmajs]

I like Elon

[@sarahboyle5165]

It’s interesting to listen to this post-election. He’s about to have a lot more power than I think many of us could imagine a few weeks ago. Turns out his aligning with Trump was not so terrible of a bet to make on his part. Sucks for the rest of us though. Whatever he brings us while in Trump’s cabinet is not gonna be good for anyone not in his class of wealth. 🥲