PT5000 Movement - What is it? Is it good? Should you buy one?

[@xchazz86]

Had my PT5000 for 6 weeks now, happy to report it was well regulated and been accurate to + 2 to 5 seconds a day. Its been far more accurate than my Miyota Seikos, very impressed. Havnt had any issues so far.

[@WATCHingJames]

That’s great to hear. Mine are still going well too.

[@shadowsocks7472]

You have Seikos with Miyotas inside?

[@xchazz86]

@@shadowsocks7472 yes its a very common movement regularly used by Seiko models

[@jovicadc9868]

​@@xchazz86 c'mon you're kidding, right?? 😂

[@xchazz86]

@@jovicadc9868 nope the chinese pt movements are actually far better tolerance and better regulated as they are basically improved selittas. Much better than you entry japan movements.

[@jeffreygoss8109]

Thanks for mentioning the winding resistance. I’ve only had nh35 which are super easy and the pt5000 felt like I was gonna need pipe wrench. It’s made nervous so I never wore the watch. Now I know it’s supposed to feel like that. Cheers

[@WATCHingJames]

I’m glad I could help. The winding action can really differ between movements and I think it is important to share that when doing videos like this. Thanks for WATCHing

[@nikoniannikonian9531]

I have to report the same resistance at my ETAs and Sellitas. But keep in mind that the size of the crown is also an important parameter. The smaller the crown , the stiffer the winding.

[@TypeSly]

My experience is almost identical to yours. Stiff winding (although it does loosen up a bit over time). Very steady movement and it doesn't seem to differ too much over time. I've checked it after getting a few hard knocks to the watch, and performance doesn't change at all, so I'd say it's quite a robust movement. I've been very happy with the performance of this movement and I would take this over the NH35/36 any day of the week, even if it means I have to pay more for it.

[@WATCHingJames]

Great to hear that you are having positive experiences with the movement. I continue to enjoy mine without any issues.

[@sagnikchaudhuri4142]

My ST chronograph movement stopped after 1 year. It was a hand wind movement. So please avoid hand wind Chinese movement.

[@NEGAHNEPOHON]

I think these movements are factory regulated. I have a watch from a budget watch brand & it’s max 4 seconds fast. I’m a great fan of this movement & hope that they’ll continue with their high standards. I hope to see in the future, no date versions of this movements & rotorless mechanical versions of this movement. I hope that they aim at consistency & value, to build their foundation.

[@WATCHingJames]

Absolutely. It would be great to see a few variations. Especially a no date. It’s great that they are being made at this price. I’ve just ordered another watch with this movement and am excited to see how it runs.

[@fatherd.6016]

I have a PT5000 movement in an unbranded Omega Seamaster homage. It winds somewhat stiffly as does yours and surprisingly is quite accurate. Very happy with it..!!! :-)

[@WATCHingJames]

That is great to hear. Mine have continued to work very well without any issues.

[@kdks7843]

Thank you for the film, James. I recently ordered a watch with the PT5000 movement - I'm curious.

[@WATCHingJames]

I’ve continued to be happy with mine.

[@kdks7843]

@@WATCHingJames I'm glad to read that. My watch will arrive at the end of June or beginning of July.

[@davemerchant8788]

Thanks for the vid - informative and appreciated. 😁👍 I only started collecting mid-'22 and hit 30 earlier this month. I've got about 3 or 4 swiss movements but mostly nh35 in copies & homages with 4 or 5 microbrands. Over the weekend I ordered a Proxima MM300 homage, initially with the nh35 but was informed they no longer do that ( despite the ad) so will be trying my first PT5000. Was a little apprehensive but you've helped calm the fear.

[@WATCHingJames]

That’s great. I am sure it will be amazing.

[@megamega362]

I advise buying PT5000 movement in a watch from a good brand say Proxima as some I have heard from less reputable brands not so well regulated Proxima highly regulate and actually send you pics of your watch on timegrapher,I've serviced 2 ,I'm a hobbyist IMO very good clean movements.

[@IlluminatingWatches]

I have been very curious about this movement. Sounds like it could be one of those that becomes pretty omnipresent over the next couple of years . Thanks for the vid!

[@WATCHingJames]

Thanks for watching

[@anandanil8158]

The absolutely epic thumbnail is the only reason I clicked on this vid

[@WATCHingJames]

Hahahaha thank you

[@watchsixto]

Thanks James for the helpful info on the PT5000 if they can get cosc then I don't see why others watch companies use them if they cloned the 2824 movement well enough then we can say it will have a great lifespan

[@WATCHingJames]

I think they have made a good and affordable movement. I’m sure there will be the occasional problem but I’m pretty impressed by my example

[@violinmke]

I have a Tandorio with this movement running about +5 seconds average. I'd take it over the Miyota at same price.

[@WATCHingJames]

I would definitely pick it over the 8000 series miyotas. I have not had any hands on experience with their 9000 series.

[@HH-os7zh]

have a Tandorio as well, with the PT 5000 movement. I guess I got a bad one. Running 15-17 seconds fast per day.

[@jerryjensen6430]

I have the Matic Diver Seasmaster homage. The watch looks great. The PT5000 is like you said very firm to hand wind. I hope it was lubricated correctly. Mine is running about 15 seconds slow. I’m happy and it’s as close to a real Seasmaster as I will get.

[@WATCHingJames]

Sounds great. It should become a bit easier to move with time.

[@andyvonbourske6405]

this movement has blown me away from the factory it ran 6-9 sec/day but after 15 minutes of tinkering i managed to get it running way better then i could of imagined.-- dial up 1s/d --dial down 2s/d -crown down 3s/d--crown up 3s/d --12 o'clock up 1s/d . my future projects are with the pt-5000 not the nh35

[@WATCHingJames]

That’s great. I’m looking forward to having more of them in my collection

[@grahamyoung622]

Unfortunately you have voided any warranty as a result of your tinkering. Hopefully it doesn't break anytime soon! Having said that, enjoy your watch.

[@acertainshape]

I noticed the resistance when winding this movement too. I was concerned something was wrong but from your video and others it seems that's just how they are.

[@WATCHingJames]

It was good for me to see that as well. Made me feel more confident with this movement.

[@pacocandano]

I got an allegedly original PT5000 movement since I had been experiencing crown action problems in my Willard, this one IS stamped HK PT5000, unlike the OEM Willard movement. I swapped it altogether and oh boy, I think that was the cure for the problems I had been experiencing. Now the crown's steps are crisp, and I'm not having any problems hacking, winding or starting the watch. It's the first time I've done this, I took the plunge and although it took me like 3 hours I didn't screw anything up and everything came out OK. I have all the necessary tools (some Swiss [bergeon screwdrivers] and everything else Chinese). People say the design is the problem and doesn't matter if the Willards get a somewhat generic PT, but this "original stamped" PT is working as it should. I have a NTTD phyllida that also has a PT and behaves perfectly well, as this one does; I haven't seen if its PT is stamped or not, I haven't opened it since it works well and is very accurate. Now, I will only monitor the new movement's behaviour and see what's what.

[@WATCHingJames]

That’s great to hear. Congratulations on swapping it out successfully.

[@pacocandano]

@@WATCHingJames Thanks! Love the content, keep up the good work!

[@jersievers]

I should also add, they perform very well. Mine have been fantastic.

[@WATCHingJames]

I’ve just ordered another watch with it. I’m looking forward to seeing how it is performing.

[@Zzzzalazar]

I have 3 watches with this movement, 2 Cronos and 1 San Martin, my experience with them it has been very satisfying,one thing I have noticed is that if I don't wear it for a day they stop working but if I wound 10 to 15 times then there is no problem, it looks like wearing alone is not enough to charge the power reserve. They seem to be very well made and robust made with good materials it doesn't feel robust like for example a nh35 but maybe its just a feeling because I don't have had enough experience with this movement, pt5000 is relatively new and his reliability has to be proven. The movement keep very good time-1,+2,+3 seconds and the smooth second hand sweep its beautiful to watch.

[@WATCHingJames]

Thanks for WATCHing and great to hear about your experiences with the PT5000

[@jamlove2020]

Alex could you elaborate on what you say I just recently bought a San Martin with the movement and having worn it for three days it stopped ticking while I was wearing it while sleeping, you think it's just a quirk of the movement that the automatic works don't give enough power and that I have to give it a few winds to supplement the auto? I'm super disappointed in the watch as it it has already caused me to be late and have no confidence in it. I think I may just return it and ask for a refund.

[@Zzzzalazar]

@@jamlove2020 hi, I believe it's due to little movement of your wrist, I have 5 watches with pt5000 movement and they all work fine for years, something I have notice is that they need more wrist movement than let say a nh35, also I wound the watch almost every day 10 to 15 times, it gives the extra energy needed to work perfectly . If you don't feel comfortable with the watch you can send it back but personally I don't see any reason to do that, it's your choice, I hope I could help if you need more clarification just let me know. Cheers 😊

[@Vidmr2407]

good info! I just ordered my first PT5000 in a Pagani Design. looking forward to it

[@WATCHingJames]

I’m keen to see that watch. It could be something great. Especially at this price.

[@Vidmr2407]

@@WATCHingJames I ordered a gold dial one after watching a review that looked better than the photos. it will be my first PD under 40mm at 36mm. I will follow up with thoughts in a couple weeks!

[@WATCHingJames]

That would be great

[@tomcruz3774]

@@Vidmr2407 How's the watch? I have the same watch on the way

[@Vidmr2407]

@@tomcruz3774 hello! My cousin loved it so much when he saw it that he begged me to buy mine and I agreed. It is quite beautiful. I did have to replace the crown stem with a longer one to get proper engagement with the movement - I had a spare on hand. I hope yours does not have that issue, but if it does you can quickly pick up a stem for cheap on Ebay and cut to a slightly longer length. The problem is that there is a spring mechanism in the crown and on mine, the crown would hit the threads before the stem pushed in to get out of hand set mode. I had another PD (PD1722) do the same thing with same easy fix. Best of luck - you will probably not have the issue…

[@naomiredpath4351]

Great video with good content. Thanks James.

[@WATCHingJames]

Thanks Naomi.

[@naomiredpath4351]

@@WATCHingJames 👍

[@glenh4971]

I try and handwind my PT5000 watch movement as little as possible. 3 or 4 twists on the crown is all. Then I shake the watch for a minute or so before putting on the watch. The winding mechanism is very fragile and will easily break. Other than that the watch is excellent and should last.

[@WATCHingJames]

Thanks for WATCHing

[@carbondragon]

What I'd like to see about this movement is two-fold. First, is it still working after 6 to 12 months (3 of my chinese watches, not with PT5000s but with earlier movements) are not. Second, if you disassembled the movement, what would you find? Is it properly assembled? Are the parts rough? Is it properly lubricated? Is there debris in the movement? The NH35 isn't a great movement, but it's generally well assembled (thus it is as good as it should be usually). The PT5000 might be a great design and a great movement, but it might be let down by how it's assembled. Generally you rely on reputation to be assured of reasonable quality control, but as yet, I don't think any Chinese export brand has an actual good reputation for QC and customer service.

[@WATCHingJames]

Yes those are definitely deserved concerns. Mine have been good so far. 🤞 they continue that way

[@MrCuckoobox]

Yes, You should buy one. I have purchased several watches with them. I have only worn one, the 1st one I purchase and been wearing it for 6 months now - runs great and no issues. It is not as nice as the original 2824 or SW200 which are both Swiss but pretty darn close and you can not beat the price point. The Swiss Movements cost several times what the PT5000 is selling for. I know the NH35 has a huge following but, IMHO the PT5000 beats the NH35 and NH35 is overrated. I have had 2 NH35 movements fail in a year of purchase. I quit buying them. Maybe back a decade a or two or three they were the worth buying, but not today. I know that is going to upset a lot people, but NH35 does nothing for me.

[@WATCHingJames]

I think it’s a great affordable option. I will definitely buy more

[@andyvonbourske6405]

i feel the same way they are good movements but the nh35's time has passed .

[@ahmeto.513]

6 months and it's still fine. Good to know:) Thanks

[@gregorywalker4997]

liked and subbed, thanks--looking at pagani in their "vintgage" air king homage.

[@WATCHingJames]

Thank you for WATCHing and subscribing. That PD looks really good. Check it out in the sale next week. See if it’s discounted

[@megamega362]

Hi the lift angle for this movement is 50 not 52.The tight winding action is good tight tolerances and perfectly normal for the movement in stripping down the movement a couple I have serviced they are very clean no smudges or fingerprints also only the odd bit of miniscule dust the Chinese are really upping their game especially in mid price point watches great workhorse movement and easier to work on than a miyota 9015.

[@WATCHingJames]

Thank you.

[@megamega362]

Your very welcome,I'm glad I found you're channel, great movement.

[@josefelixmiguel9700]

Interesting information

[@WATCHingJames]

Thank you for WATCHing

[@stansam3053]

Please what about the performance compared to the original ETA ? Could we say that it is a clone of quality ?

[@WATCHingJames]

I’ve found mine to perform about the same. But I don’t think the quality would be as good. I spoke to a watch maker about them and he thought they were ok but not as refined as the originals.

[@stansam3053]

@@WATCHingJames many thanks !

[@Izou96]

​@@WATCHingJames how is it if compared to sellita?

[@ThePaulv12]

Came here because this movement is just a $5USD upgrade option over the Seiko NH35 in a Proxima watch. I can't believe how low the upgrade is - perhaps it's not an upgrade at all if it fails but then again the Seiko could fail too. I'll pay the fiver and see what happens.

[@WATCHingJames]

I don’t think of it as an upgrade. It is just another option. I know lots of people are interested in knowing more about it so I wanted to put out this video. It does not answer every question. But I hope it helps a bit.

[@ThePaulv12]

@@WATCHingJames I watched a vid on the disassembly of a new Chinese clone of the ETA 2892-A2. Tawdry is a word that comes to mind. Parts in the keyless works gouged the mainplate due to unfinished stampings. The movement could've been good but careless disregard to attention to detail was throughout causing me to find you re the PT5000.

[@WATCHingJames]

That is a shame. A cheaper Chinese alternative sounds good in theory.

[@MsBricktop80]

Hi, Nice video by the way! 🙂 did you regulate it the PT5000? Greetings Mario

[@WATCHingJames]

Hello, no I did not have too. It is running so well straight out of the box.

[@MsBricktop80]

@@WATCHingJames thx Brother!🙂

[@WATCHingJames]

👍

[@johnsmotorsports]

Had my Cronos L6001 with PT5000 less than two weeks and the manual wind mechanism has failed, feels like stripped gears.

[@WATCHingJames]

Oh no. That’s no good. Have you contacted Cronos? I found they were good to deal with and hopefully provide a bit of help.

[@johnsmotorsports]

@@WATCHingJames Messaged Cronos no response had to put a claim in via AliExpress now returned and awaiting refund, shame really would have liked the watch repaired or replaced, poor customer service will not purchase from them again.

[@WATCHingJames]

😢

[@scatterbrain9490]

Good to hear, sharp watch

[@WATCHingJames]

Thank you

[@Gearsandco]

I really want to upgrade my San Martin 6200 vintage drive to a 4Hz movement mine has the NH35 which an amazing movement but only 3Hz, I wanna see if I could do the upgrade myself but I need the tools for it, Do you guys think should I upgrade to the PT5000 since it's affordable?

[@WATCHingJames]

I think I the NH movement is great and don’t think it really would be an upgrade to the PT5000. If you were considering this then I would be thinking about the SW200. However I’m don’t think it is as easy as switching them.

[@Gearsandco]

@@WATCHingJames I mainly care about the 4hz the Sw200 is over budget for the watch I’m working on, but thank you for the info.

[@martinowl]

Did you get the PT5000 movement? I received the 36 mm version of the 62mas yesterday with it. Not good from the off. Stem felt like there was some cross threading when screwing down. It stopped 3 times on me in the first few hours & now won’t restart. It feels fully wound up. It’s now on its way back.

[@martinowl]

Sorry 37mm

[@ВикторЧабарин]

Спасибо

[@WATCHingJames]

Thanks for WATCHing

[@Elijah-fc3ex]

Am I the only one getting terrible power reserve on this movement?

[@WATCHingJames]

Mine have been ok.

[@MrPINKFL0YD]

Just be careful with who made it.. H. K. Precision is OK but there are other Chinese companies making it with lubricant issues..while it's a higher beat than a 7 htz it's not a true high beat. That is 8,9,10 beats per second..or even 20 if you have a great deal of money..

[@WATCHingJames]

Thanks for WATCHing

[@markiangooley]

And here I am, complaining that my Bulova Precisionist gains about five seconds a month when they used to be advertised at around ten seconds a year. I’m fascinated by mechanical movements, and impressed that a Chinese company can produce adequate ones so cheaply that they’re probably best serviced by complete replacement, but… does anyone actually care what time it is? Even 5 seconds gain a day would drive me to distraction… or maybe it wouldn’t as I haven’t regularly worn a mechanical watch in 20 years and have forgotten how I felt about such things in real life.

[@WATCHingJames]

Some people absolutely need a perfectly accurate watch. Others love the feel and connection of mechanical watches. As long as you like your watch. Then I don’t think it really matters. Thanks for WATCHing

[@truthseeker8483]

Very Noice! 🤠

[@WATCHingJames]

Thank you for WATCHing

[@steve8510]

Don't wind it too much

[@WATCHingJames]

Thanks for WATCHing

[@stevei3471]

What expert doesn't know why its a firm wind?? LOL

[@WATCHingJames]

I did not consult any experts when making this video. It is from a watch enthusiasts perspective and sharing of my experiences. Thanks for WATCHing

[@marksakowski9272]

What it is a good for????Absolutely nothing!!!!!

[@WATCHingJames]

I’m now singing that song lalalalalalalalala

[@LCMNUNES1962]

EXCELENT MACHINE ETA 2824-2 👍 🇧🇷

[@WATCHingJames]

You can’t go wrong with the ETA.

[@somewhereintimewatchreviews]

Had the PT5000 In a Proxima "marine master" homage no issues with it at all I think a good alternative to the miyota 9000 series & the fact that it is able to meet cosc requirements is a definite positive for me. Its nice to see a Chinese movement manufacturer taking the time & effort to produce a good quality movement. I belive that Steeldive have also loaded this into the latest "Willard" homage so I'll probably give that a look at some point this year.

[@WATCHingJames]

I’m very impressed by it and would love to see it in more watches.

[@jeffreygleaves2931]

I've been leery of them and always opted for the Seiko NH35. At the end of the day I think the movement IS the watch and I see a homage with the NH35 as a Seiko in a different package. I have two of them and they wind buttery smooth like the better Seikos and keep great time. The PT5000 might be great but I haven't heard enough consensus to make a judgement call to switch brands. People do seem to like them though.

[@WATCHingJames]

I don’t think I would opt for one in every watch I buy but I’m definitely satisfied enough that I’ll get another.

[@grahamyoung622]

Check out the link above, Jeffrey. I am a bit of the same mindset re these movements. If you can pick up a 'kosher' one then you should be O.K. Unfortunately the PT5000 is a very copied movement in China, you almost never know what movement you will actually get, particularly at the lower end of the market (say less than 250USD). If you aren't sure, ask the vendors.

[@barreltech8949]

I love mine, the accuracy has been phenomenal

[@WATCHingJames]

Thanks for WATCHing my video about the PT5000 movement. I’ve had some experience with this movement now and wanted to share some information with you.

[@justintime1218]

I like mine, But yes the Winding is very firm especially compared too a NH35, That being said, It does feel smoother. My only gripe, Would be the Rotor sounds like a 8215 miyota if you know what I mean 😔

[@WATCHingJames]

It can be a bit loud depending on which watch it is in. A couple I have you can’t hear it. Others you can.

[@ivanbalbontin3236]

PT5000 i s a crap movement !!! I have 4 watches with the PT5000 movement and all of them have broken; none have lasted more than a year. I can only conclude that it's pure Chinese junk. I have a Pagani Design with the NH35 that has been working perfectly for 7 years.

[@WATCHingJames]

That is very disappointing to hear.

[@garethbain7477]

Had one....it was in the back of a hruodland zenith pilot homepage....beautiful watch but the movement was an absolute dog. Horrible grinding when winding...followed by a free spinning crown but hands were stopped....rota was still spinning...had to send it back. I will avoid in future. Had about 50 nh35's without a single issue.

[@WATCHingJames]

That’s no good. Sorry to hear about that.

[@WesWatchRoom]

Had a few experiences with these and they've all been good. Solid feeling and positive feedback. The only issue is spares aren't as easy to come by as a Seiko but hopefully that will change now more are using them.

[@WATCHingJames]

They certainly feel nice and I’m enjoying having one in my collection. Hopefully by the time we might need spares they will be available. Or they can just be swapped out for a new one.

[@JonTheComputerDoctor]

ETA parts fit, I have replaced reverser wheels and canon pinions with no issues.

[@johng.6222]

You should do something about that echo it's very distracting

[@WATCHingJames]

Thanks John. This is one of my older videos. I am always trying to improve the audio and video quality as I continue the channel.

[@houd3872]

how many times do we wind the pt5000 for the full power reserve?

[@WATCHingJames]

About 30 times. But it varies. You can’t over wind them.

[@michaelbradley5722]

I have a PT5000 in a San Martin SN009-G (blue dial). Over all I like it but, like yours, the winding feels heavy.

[@WATCHingJames]

It must be normal for the movement.

[@LTC_Tiger]

I have a PT5000 in my Cronos homage to the IWC Le Petit Prince. So far, I'm running about +3.5 seconds/day on average. I've been very pleased with the movement's performance. My one gripe is that several of the dates on my date wheel are not printed correctly. It's acceptable, but several of the numbers appear to have differing consistencies in their printing thickness -- it's as if an extra "|" of ink has been added to several of the numbers. It wouldn't stop me from buying another watch with the movement, especially if the price were good.

[@WATCHingJames]

Good to hear it running well. Interesting that there is an issue with the date wheel printing. I have not heard of that before.

[@LTC_Tiger]

@@WATCHingJames It's honestly very, very minor. That said, it totally triggers my OCD.

[@WATCHingJames]

Hahaha. It probably would do the same to me.

[@rons7555]

I just got one and am going to install it into a build. My first pt5000 build, in fact.

[@WATCHingJames]

That sounds very interesting. Good luck.

[@rons7555]

@@WATCHingJames thanks

[@yoyex2009]

Where did you bought that movement?

[@Colorado18]

thank you

[@WATCHingJames]

Thanks for WATCHing

[@chrispenn715]

I have one of these movements in a Geckota dive watch - seems to keep very good time at c +2 or +3 seconds a day. The manual winding action feels fine on mine - a little resistance, but good and smooth. Very pleased with it and much prefer to a NH35. For watches at this sort of price, i'm not worried about spares availability - I expect it to run for 10 at least years.

[@WATCHingJames]

That’s great. I’m really impressed by it and look forward to getting one in the next watch I buy from AliExpress.

[@ikeman5774]

From all that I've heard about the PT5000, it's been mostly very positive. I presently own 2 watches that have this movement and am very pleased with their accuracy, power reserve and the quality feel of the crown functions.

[@WATCHingJames]

It’s great hear all the positive experiences from everyone. It certainly supports how I am feeling about mine. Thanks for WATCHing

[@MrShinobi797]

Seems like a decent Movement. Would you say its likely to be DURABLE long term, as say, an NH35/36 movement??

[@WATCHingJames]

It’s hard to judge. But I’m impressed so far and everything I have read about them is positive.

[@MrShinobi797]

@@WATCHingJames Fair enough...Thanks for the feedback 👍🏽

[@briankeim1437]

I’ve gotten a Matic Diver200, am homage to the Omega Seamaster. Haven’t had it for too long, but typically it seems to run only a second or two fast after a day. I love the smooth second hand on it, and the minute hand tracks very precisely! I have another watch with an NH35 and after a day the minute hand will be off on it, not to mention the second hand will be 5-10 seconds fast usually. So this far, the PT5000 seems to keep time better. And yes, my PT5000 is also a lot firmer when winding than the NH35 is

[@WATCHingJames]

That’s great to hear that your PT5000 is running well. I am still enjoying line and they are running very well.

[@spartanthe300ththermopylae4]

@briankeim1437 Three days ago I took delivery of a Steeldive SD1953 with a nh35 in it. Over the past 3 days that I've had it, it's been running at -2 sec per day. I am super happy and hope it stays that way.

[@rongurney738]

I have had 3 replacements of my pt5000 in my cronos watch in the past year. My watch tech thinks it’s a cheap sub standard movement. I think that the hand stack may be causing problems. It’s away for another look. The warranty was terrible.I wanted a replacement but cronos on Alli express refused. I have 100 plus watches ranging from $100 to $1000 . Many are mechanical…. No issues other any this one. Do you have any suggestions?

[@WATCHingJames]

That is very disappointing. I have had some wonderful feedback from people about their movements. If I was stuck with one that was not working I would consider a complete replacement movement. You can put a claim through AliExpress if it is a recent purchase as well.

[@kermitaner]

I think lift Angle ist 50 for this movmt but that shouldnt make much of a Difference. Impressive Numbers though regarding the price of it

[@WATCHingJames]

I’ve been really happy with them. They continue to run well

[@brianmckibben2300]

Its a 1 for 1 copy of the ETA 2824 so it will have the same stiff winding. It will also have the same gear that strips with too much winding being soft brass.

[@WATCHingJames]

Thanks for WATCHing

[@jersievers]

The hand wind on all the PT5000 are stiff. It is a bad design they copied over from the ETA and ultimately should have the same issue as the ETA hand wind. There is a gear that goes from a fine tooth gear from the autowind and hand wind gear does every other tooth. Hand wind can put too much force into that fine gear.

[@WATCHingJames]

It is firm. But it’s is also smooth. So I’m not too worried

[@oscarquinteto5431]

Yo comprare un reloj la otra semana con este movimiento Pt5000 tengo fe q será un movimiento fiable y duradero

[@WATCHingJames]

I’m sure it will be great.

[@Rick-yp2wo]

Pt5000 has a liftangle of 50, not 52 as you did on your timegrapher

[@WATCHingJames]

Thanks Rick. I forget to look that up sometimes.

[@archievthapa3593]

Excellent review as always - really love all your solid honest reviews !!!

[@WATCHingJames]

Thank you very much.

[@gmotionedc5412]

This or miyota 9000 and 8000?

[@WATCHingJames]

I’m not a huge fan of the 8000 because of the noise and feel. But the 9000 seems great

[@jessjc2108]

bonjour la date saute t elle a minuit ou elle glisse ?

[@WATCHingJames]

Quick

[@redlionqc7276]

Mine. Is something. It likes spinning out of control the I try and manually wind it anyone knows why

[@WATCHingJames]

That’s not good. Might need to get a watchmaker to check it out.

[@redlionqc7276]

@@WATCHingJames cant find any near me thats open on weekends

[@WATCHingJames]

😢

[@extradimensional8818]

✌️🧐🇬🇧

[@WATCHingJames]

Thanks for WATCHing

[@donnyboon2896]

Yes

[@WATCHingJames]

Short and simple. I also think yes

[@donnyboon2896]

@@WATCHingJames - A positive comment to feed the algorithm. 😃

[@WATCHingJames]

Hahaha thank you

[@preiudeh22a]

Just ordered a Cronos datejust homage with grey dial, alot of good reviews on youtube about the watch. I have read nothing but good things about the PT5000 movement as well and the look of these homages are amazing! I cant wait to get it.

[@WATCHingJames]

I’m sure it will be amazing. Cronos does some lovely watches and I really like my PT5000s