These Illustration Rare Pokémon TCG Cards are FAR Too Expensive! I Can Prove it! (Pokémon TCG News)

[@dmcinnis23]

Ceruledge could be the Umbreon of Gen Alpha. I’m betting in 20 years the prices for this character will be insane.

[@shiny_Six]

I agree, even as an og player from the 90s I love Ceruledge

[@dmcinnis23]

@@shiny_Six Thanks! If I was a kid, I would think Ceruledge was incredibly cool. And it's featured so much in the Horizons show.

[@2736492821]

no way

[@vincients569]

I'm not seeing it at all honestly. Umbreons also an edgy dude but he's also adorable. Ceruledge is ... something lmao.

[@Dozuken]

idk why that was so funny to read to me

[@MrMongerty]

I remember being told on this channel that the SIR Greninja ex was overpriced and had to come down at some point (back when it was below $200), lol. Turns out the opinion that a card is "too expensive" doesn't actually matter vs the current English market.

[@GoodCleanTCG]

Is the explanation not that some cards are simply more desirable than others? It’s no different with SIR’s..the more desirable Pokemon/artworks generate the highest demand for collectors and investors which in turn drives the price up. If the Japanese and English markets were true apples to apples comparisons then your logic would apply. But these are two entirely different markets that function differently. Yes, similarities exist but that doesn’t mean similarities MUST exist in all areas. In my estimation, it’s the “investor” culture that’s so prevalent in the current English market that create these anomalies in value.

[@GoodCleanTCG]

Also, thank you for all of your videos I love your content. It’s so unique to anything else out there. Keep it up!

[@EricRare]

Not all artwork is created equal

[@BadDays2050]

Man. One day he'll stop comparing the Japanese and American markets lol. Literally completely different in every way. Yes you can gauge a card or a set's popularity from Japanese. But there are plenty of times that stuff over there is high and we don't care about it. A lot of the waifu's for example.

[@nato255]

Japanese market is wildly different though the comparisons seem poor

[@PokeccinoCards]

Agreed. The Japanese IRs are SIGNIFICANTLY easier to pull than the English versions. You can’t use Japanese as the baseline for how expensive they “should be.”

[@Ansem_SOD13]

Not really. The same thing happened with Japanese in the past. Suddenly Japanese prices were spiking and everyone and their mother wanted in. Now Japanese went down and People don't care anymore. Then English started spiking all of a sudden and now everyone and their mother wants in. Interest in these cards is largely decided by value and it's sad.

[@MrMongerty]

Yeah, maybe he should do a comparison between the markets, because obviously they don't correlate that much. The actual gameplay seems to matter more in Japan, while I would bet that English sets have 4:1 collectors to players. Artwork and the subject Pokemon clearly matter more than playability in the West.

[@andrematias2430]

Comparing spheal to ceruledge artworks......😅

[@Mikethatguy7]

I agree they are too expensive. But comparing value of English and Japanese makes no sense. Please stop using this disingenuous argument.

[@apache3660]

Yeah the jap and English prices often have nothing to do with each other because Japan is a very different culture to the west. Wifus are a good example of theirs disparity too

[@ChriskipTCGMTG]

Nah he has a point

[@Mikethatguy7]

@ He doesn’t. Why should the values have to match? They are different languages which means different regions, cultures, collectors, etc. By his logic I could argue the complete opposite. “Why are the Japanese cards not more expensive? The Japanese versions are too cheap! Look at the English prices!” His argument makes zero sense.

[@Rebateman]

I assume that most of the time, Japanese and English cards are around the same price as each other if both are in the same method (packs, boxes, etc) between regions if they aren't brand new in either region

[@nonyia17]

This was easily his worst video period. All of a sudden he did not even think to mention the waifu cards that are WAY more expensive in japan than in English EVEN THOUGH ALL ENGLISH POKEMON CARD PRODUCTS ARE MORE EXPENSIVE THAN JAPANESE PRODUCTS

[@monkey39128]

How can they be too expensive? Collectibles don't have underlying cash flows, they're never under or overpriced. Also, as others have pointed out English and Japanese don't always run in tandem. Why do you bother asking people to comment when you haven't replied to one in years?

[@ZacharyGalloway]

This dudes so far out of touch with why the Pokemon TCG is as big as it is now. All about the collectors and pack rippers.

[@apache3660]

I enjoyed this comment 😅 literally laughed at the last line haha

[@verymotivated7193]

@@ZacharyGallowayhe literally did say people are looking for a hit and the hype trains get these prices rolling Which is exactly that: not hobbyists, certainly not players, just « investors »

[@Nick.Candy808]

I'm so glad I bought the Magikarp back when it was $45 I'm debating on selling or keeping it longer

[@benelson12]

I sold and hold the Japanese one now.

[@lawdbo3426]

Flex on em

[@alexnicolaou3579]

i'd sell asap before people go "wait a minute, this thing shouldn't be so expensive"

[@vincients569]

If people come to their senses before it goes out of print though it's a wrap and it's staying high but if they do beforehand...it'll dip but not too $45 lol

[@bbq1040]

I had a long post but you can't seem to grasp that popular cards cost more regardless of the pull rate. You also can't seem to grasp that Japanese cards aren't nearly as desirable as English cards in English speaking countries. If I can't read the card it's really not that appealing to me. I don't know why you're beating this dead horse again.

[@TheChocoboKid]

I am lucky that I pulled the Ceruledge IR from three sleeved packs. My Ceruledge/Armarouge Collection was about to have a missing card until the price went down.

[@lawdbo3426]

Flex on em

[@JoshBee-hp7xe]

You a ceruledge and armarouge fan also ?

[@TheChocoboKid]

@JoshBee-hp7xe since the debut trailer of SV videogame

[@JoshBee-hp7xe]

@@TheChocoboKid me too!

[@AllDaily47]

aegislash and porygon are some of my favorites i opened so much paradox rift and never got them, at least got the groudon though. Didnt even know it was the highest of the set

[@Kuraikage187]

I have an extra Aegislash for trade if youre up for it

[@bscu0493]

This guy should really consider restricting his commentary to the game play dynamics of the cards…The economics and math of collecting is obviously beyond his understanding.

[@drew-hg9om]

Completely agree.

[@EeveelutionaryTree196]

It's very simple: I would rather pay a small premium to have Ceruledge over Mesprit. Other people are willing to pay a big premium to have Ceruledge over Mesprit. Your argument is literally "Why is 1st edition Base Set Charizard more expensive than 1st edition Base Set Magneton? They're the same pull rates!" There is more demand for Charizard than Magneton. There is more demand for Ceruledge than Mesprit.

[@ZacharyGalloway]

Comparing Japanese market to English or any other language for that matter is asinine. People love collecting these cards. "if they were that good they would be expensive everywhere".... Really? I get it you play the game and only see "value" in playable cards but your way out of touch when it comes to the majority of the Pokémon hobby being collectors. Its a different country let alone different language and i don't care for any other language cards cheaper or not I only collect English. Its an open market and until people stop buying them assigning the current value then they go up. You can "manipulate" it all you want but if no one buys them they go down either way. Why not show the other side of Japanese "waifu" cards being way more expensive? Because it doesn't matter that's what they like and value them higher... Pack rippers and collectors either sealed, graded or raw are the only reason Pokémon TCG is where it is now.

[@lukzymatee9977]

Here’s another way to look at it. Surging sparks is 240 usd a box which is about 5-6x higher than the Japanese equivalent. English is more sought on a global scale aswell. Surging sparks has 2x as many it’s as super electric breaker has of ar’s so that then makes it another 2x as hard to pull. So the ceruledge ar being $4 & the English equivalent being $40 makes it undervalued. 4 x 6 = 24 x 2 = 48. if you want to use your flawed logic…

[@lukzymatee9977]

Your whole take on whether or not a card is too expensive based on pull rates is just stupid. All that matters is how many people want a card. Supply & demand. Otherwise everything would be the same price. Terrible take

[@Scumbreon]

100% this ☝🏼

[@nonyia17]

Man this video genuinely is so bad. You’re losing your mind because a single IR is clearly outpacing the other IRs??? Mfer look at the quality of the art. People just like it. The fact that you don’t understand simple DEMAND is genuinely so shocking. Your own video disproves the whole "people are pumping it" the very tcg player chart you’re showing literally shows lower sell volume yet the price is still climbing. Please stop talking about the tcg market and just stick to the news and tcg game mechanics

[@infeble080]

The English and Japanese markets are very different in terms of supply and demand. I have no issues with any of the english prices, im glad cards are holding value.

[@overpoweredrc27]

Personally I disagree . That's not proof for me that's why waifu cards cost more in japanese and way cheaper here. Nobody likes spheal lol

[@origprankster]

Ceruledge is an awesome looking card.. compared to Mesprit and Spheal.

[@Scumbreon]

Ok, but it’s a combination of these things, right? ceruledge is probably a fan favourite from this generation which a lot of people were waiting on an IR/SIR release of…so it’s a fan favourite and a lot of those fans only collect English. You really do need to include the fact that a bunch of huge pokemon buying nations don’t want Japanese language cards Plus I don’t think spheal and mesprit have the same draw personally 🤷🏼‍♂️ so I don’t see the relevance. Also, the price difference completely throws off the odds, a Japanese box is £30 and you’re guaranteed 3 ARs but a box of surging sparks is like £140 quid atm and you’re expecting/hoping for 2 or 3 IRS. Let’s say with postage from Japan you can get 3 to 4 boxes of Japanese for the same price of 1 English box. So that’s a lot more chance you’re gonna hit a ceruledge for the same price. Plus we live in the modern age so you don’t even have to ship boxes back, you let Japanese people open them for cheap in their own country and then list them on eBay 🤷🏼‍♂️ super easy to access Japanese sellers now. Also, some people have been in this sphere for a while and don’t wanna gamble and rip packs. So probably more people trying to buy singles. The mentality is different, ‘buy the ceruledge for £40 or open 9 packs for the same price and hope for that exact card?” So i think the price difference makes complete sense personally 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@elliottlangford5153]

Couldn’t agree more

[@TheSnackAttackingSnorlax]

Japanese and English don’t always value the same cards man…. Sometimes it happens but definitely not always. Ceruledge is that good in America. Hence Japanese waifus being massively expensive and dirt cheap in English. Waifus are usually top hits in Japanese sets

[@ZacharyGalloway]

He's so out of touch with anything but the playable "game pieces". Its always the same story just different cards and its supper annoying. Collectors is the only reason the TCG is where it is now anyways.

[@ArnibalCocoaVT]

I still don't understand how I just bought a Japanese Cassiopeia for 1/3rd of the price of her in English. And the going rate is 3,980 or less than 20 dollars...

[@ChipsnGravy-p8w]

Western culture and Japanese culture don’t view things equally

[@HexerDexter]

I think explanation for why certain cards are more expensive than others is because of what Pokémon are more popular than others & of course mostly greed.

[@gohana3434]

My local scalper who stands just off the property line at the local tcg store Fire & Dragons told me this is the last chance before 6X rises by March. The store itself doesn’t have much good product in stock but Raul says he has. Weird times.

[@nonyia17]

What does "more expensive than they should be"? Do YOU set the market? Also the fact that you even think about comparing English prices to Japanese prices shows you you unfortunately know nothing about the pokemon tcg market AT ALL

[@FishingonChesil]

Japanese and English Collectors / Investors getting further apart - there is now a clear distinction between the 2 products... AND that just makes sense.

[@tecfrost4495]

For Paradox Rift, I got one of each ETB and maybe 2 booster boxes and I managed to pull both Illustration Rares of Roaring Moon and Iron Valiant in the same booster box. I was geeking, but I still want the Golisopod though

[@thinkingoutloud89-b9l]

Get your point, agree, but the Pokémon that are popular in the west aren’t always the Pokemon that are popular in Japan. So I don’t think this comparison holds up.

[@tredici72]

English is in its own league, and the demand for English outweighs Japanese, it doesn’t need to correlate with the Japanese market to dictate what should be popular or not.

[@TONGSAMCAN]

i think Magneton AR is something to watch.. its pretty cheap right now in japanese ver but who knows if it could be climbing

[@TheChocoboKid]

@@TONGSAMCAN most etb promos with Pokemon Center logo shoot up... Sooner or later

[@CREATIVEreviews]

ceruledge is a beautiful cool looking card that's art is on another level from the cute pretty cards

[@BDAShadow1]

If there’s one thing to learn from this video, it’s that Magikarp will ALWAYS have 30hp. Power creep does not affect the karp.

[@TopDeckTeam]

Ceruledge is a fan favorite, and groudon is just beautiful and always has a decent price given its a popular legendary. My 2 cents :)

[@Otot_B]

this show us clearly what demand can do. English global demand dwarfs Japanese

[@Therealtsnap]

Ceruledge might be a little inflated true, but your points are kind of weak, since when as of late has the japanese market demand been a good indicator of ENG. If it's more popular, {objectively "cooler"}, harder to pull from more expensive and elusive packs than a spheal or mesprit....the price makes more sense than your making it out to be.

[@matthewfix1344]

How many times are you going to make the same video? The Japanese market and the western market are completely different. Pull rates are completely different. Appeal and demand between markets are completely different. There's your answer.

[@benjaminwileman4771]

People want the card and are willing to pay the price so it makes perfect sense. Nothing is going to be cheaper than it should be.

[@Houndshobby]

I’ve done 3 videos ripping SEB and pulled 3 Ceruledge! Meh

[@ErrffyJones]

Doesn't this also suggest IRs like spheal/mespirit should cost more relative to japanese counterparts?

[@brandongesiakowski2932]

It’s as simple as popularity of the Pokémon. See the same thing happening with 151 starters especially charmander as we do with the ceruledge from sparks.

[@IAreBeMrLee]

Gripped a palada evolved booster box last week before, now we wait 🚀

[@julius9438]

I don’t think that because cards are popular in the west they are necessarily also popular in Japan. It’s just supply and demand. But I agree that it’s too much in general.

[@jeku31216]

It's not always because it's "good" gameplay wise, it's how people like the look/art of the card. Think of it like these people just started appreciating the art more. Also EN and JP really has a different market so point is you can't really get to directly compare them.

[@bellebrown3603]

Sir roaring moon is of course gonna be more expensive in Japan then here cause in Japan you get 1 sir/sr in a box over here their way easier to get sirs compared to irs cause we have more irs then sir over here and Japan only has at most 6-12 irs a set not 36 also the popularlity of said pokemon makes a huge difference

[@Ansem_SOD13]

What I never understood is the fact that Magikarp is like quadruple the price of the Rayquaza TG from silver tempest when Rayquaza is just as rare if not rarer, features a way more popular pokemon, features Zinnia which is one of the most popular pokegirls which should give it "waifu tax" and is from a set that is getting harder and harder to find. Imho the rayquaza has better artwork but that is subjective. But tbf, the magikarp art is an aquired taste. The logic does not logic.

[@Theu131]

There are enough logical fallacies in this video to teach an intro to debate 101 college course lol. Love the exasperation, some of the hype, especially for the magikarp , is very overblown. But fact is, it’s a different market from Japan. These are basically completely different cards. They have different audiences, different pull rates, different grade ability. .

[@JosephTramm]

The Japanese card prices never really compare to the US card prices.

[@PokemonZMasterCollector]

I have been saying for a while now and finally someone that agrees!! Most people will justify this cuz it’s makes them money.Wozzy thanks for making this video.

[@dultaging]

I get the rant but there is legit a term for japanese female trainer cards called "waifu tax" why are those explosively more expensive compared to english ones? Same cards? Colture, pullrates and likeableness of a pokemon and competetiveness are all factors at play here... Ceruledge is a very popular pokemon for example... Groudon is my all time fav since i was 7 i regret buying it for 45 and i am still considering buying it as we speak... So its more a qyestion of what do people think is reasonable?

[@TPTShop]

Demand explains it all.

[@Glizzygeee]

They are 2 different markets. The Japanese market is down right now along with them being easier to pull there

[@ColeMisztak-xi7lz]

“ you're going to be popular”

[@SaltMas0174-xyz]

The comparison doesn't make sense, Japan likes Waifus, West people like Alt Arts that's why market prices are different

[@thedailysporting]

Ceruledge just had the viral video of it fighting….that made me want this card …I am sure a lot of others feeling the same

[@thedailysporting]

I really think this is it

[@CamaroMan514]

I think some of what is pushing the card is modern popularity in the card and pokemon within the game and anime

[@TiMiD703]

Ceruledge has more HP?

[@rocklee7634]

Look at the price of the PSA 10, that’s why. I’ve got a perfect one, corners and all. Got a 9.

[@andrematias2430]

West is wrong for giving imporance for dope artworks, Japanese dudes having wifus as most expensive cards it's fine?

[@apache3660]

Yep 💯 the wifu thing doesn’t translate to the west, at least not in modern sets. The Japan and English comparisons are flawed

[@Austin4Liberty]

Wild analysis 🤡 Many factors for why comparing Japanese and English is terrible but the biggest factor not considered in this video is grading. Grading gem rates are always harder in English. Causing 10 rates to be more rare. Hence demanding higher prices for graded cards. Then raw copies go up because everyone is chasing grading plays.

[@galaxiekrieger9441]

Oh crazy, the Ceruledge is much cheaper in Europe. Here it cost aroud 15€ (15,5$)

[@Classat12]

Comparing to Japanese markets is foolish. The demand in each market is different. Good example - full art trainers tend to be huge chase cards in Japan. In English, no one cares. Demand isn’t constant across all regions/markets

[@jayjay-vl4ri]

Oh boy.. even if you’re correct on this one your reasoning is way waaaaaaaaay way wrong, still a fan.

[@Pokegen4]

Japanese card are only used in japanese league and the most use language is English

[@Huff19daddy]

I’ve watched your videos for years, but these types of videos make me wanna unsubscribe. Your opinion in the market value conversation is not respected, as you continue to just compare English and Japanese prices. Do you not understand that these are two totally different markets? Which will demand two different market prices?? Every month or two you upload a video bitchin about the price on a category of cards and use Japanese market prices to justify it. Never hear you complaining about the price on Japanese waifu cards since they are way cheaper in English. Just stop. It’s two different markets.

[@billyworks3702]

Ceruledge is a key character in Pokémon Horizons… your video take has made me sad 😢

[@donchula3587]

its as expensive as the market decides it to be

[@JadaaFresh]

it comes down to populairty and art i guess idk lol

[@Pokegen4]

But there are more users or English then japanese or Spanish

[@gman-qw3so]

Happy Sunday from a snowy New York day🥶 🎉Happy holiday to all🎊

[@RamzaOnlyGamePlaysROGP]

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[@PrismaticRevolution]

Im a gen 1 and gen 2 guy. But Groudon is cool.

[@Pokegen4]

How can you only agree with cards you like ? I'm sorry to see you are selling out

[@widders1]

Poke investing bros 😔

[@Dingus2232]

The grifters in this hobby are everywhere, youtube serves me new ones every day. My default assumption is always market manipulation. And if it's true, it sucks that people who only see cards as investments control prices for people who actually appreciate the cards. It was so cheap to collect sets when I was a kid.

[@apache3660]

Do you know how hard it would be to manipulate a fairly common card like an IR? Especially this early in the sets release with so much of it flowing into the market

[@PrismaticRevolution]

It isnt market manipulation lol. People want the cards . I believe this is more about your fomo and you can feel the train is leaving the station without you.

[@Pokegen4]

That is no proof 😂

[@megaman2596]

😊

[@krisnolan3941]

2nd comment uhhhhh