June 16, 2004 Hosts: Tony Kornheiser & Michael Wilbon Network: ESPN, ESPNEWS ESPN Enterntainment, 2004
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@MasenkOG9 жыл бұрын
That Pistons team never got credit from the media it was always the Lakers chip to lose instead of the Pistons to win
@franklinclinton34768 жыл бұрын
+Masenko Breezy because nobody cares about the Pistons they cheated vs MJ and the Bulls in the 80s they were known for being dirty + they was a bad guy team good all win vs Evil
@Blatty268 жыл бұрын
There's still 2 banners hanging in Detroit. Sounds like you don't know shit about basketball
@franklinclinton34768 жыл бұрын
Blatty26 you mean 3
@Blatty268 жыл бұрын
Two came from when the Pistons were bullying MJ
@franklinclinton34768 жыл бұрын
Blatty26 and that why MJ sweep there behind in 1991 because of that
@tranazzi6 жыл бұрын
That 2000’s decade as a Detroit fan.... Cups in ‘02 and ‘08 NBA champs in ‘04 Cup finals appearance in ‘09 NBA Finals appearance in ‘05 World Series appearance in ‘06 Anyone wanna go back to there with me?
@mauricejohnson10684 жыл бұрын
Yessirrrrrrrr
@tennaj13673 жыл бұрын
And the Lions still sucked !!! I'm from Detroit !!
@elbowgang97152 жыл бұрын
@@tennaj1367 I'm from. Detroit too and yup everyone was successful except them damn Lions. Remember Joey Harrington lol
@ericcleve44472 жыл бұрын
You forgot about the 2012 Tigers making the World Series. “should’ve!!” Won that. But you did say “2000s”Effing Prince Fielder ruined everything. Wings were in the glory days. Pistons shocked the world (minus Michigan) and beat Kobe, Shaq, Malone @ Payton. Now all of our sports teams are Lion like. Rough times to be a fan in the D.
@elbowgang9715 Жыл бұрын
@Eric Cleve we'll be back. A couple years just watch.
@cwp4eva8 жыл бұрын
This show ain't changed in 12 years
@Adamalmosawy04208 жыл бұрын
This is by far the funniest comment I have ever seen lmao so true
@stocker1048 жыл бұрын
oh yes
@jakem23677 жыл бұрын
They even still have guiness as a sponsor😂 well if it ain't broke don't fix it
@BubbaGoon085 жыл бұрын
18 years. I’m in 2019... still hasn’t changed and shouldn’t.
@zacharyrizzo39525 жыл бұрын
William Phelps thank god. ESPN went full on liberal within that time. They’re smart enough to not touch this great show
@Blackisbeautifull967 жыл бұрын
The nostalgia. I remember coming home from middle school and watching this while I did my homework and whatnot. Man.. I truly miss those days. Basketball was awesome and life was less hectic and stressful. #PTI
@ahutch397 жыл бұрын
Nostalgia is one hell of a drug
@pvpat926 жыл бұрын
Antonio Higgins heavy.
@offtop38086 жыл бұрын
BlackIsBeautiful life wasn’t less hectic...you just happened to be 10.
@halfwaydowntheroad4 жыл бұрын
I hear you. These guys became the go-to show my last years in high school when it premiered.
@HakeemTheDream6163 жыл бұрын
Me too...I did it everyday!
@artgutierrez65247 жыл бұрын
Tayshawn Prince aka The only REAL Kobe stopper
@coreybright66843 жыл бұрын
Kobe and tmac
@kmill89666 жыл бұрын
Greatest moment of my life. Pistons for life. BAD BOYZ!
@BrickstreetSprite6 жыл бұрын
Facts.. my favorite team of all time.. 04 Pistons
@brandonknight4314 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah man
@elbowgang97154 жыл бұрын
Man I still remember the night we won. The city had so much love for them and they loved us back. It was nothing to see Rip Hamilton on 7 mile in his Maybach back then
@terencethomas47352 жыл бұрын
Let’s go
@shg45 Жыл бұрын
I actually call this Pistons team the Good Men Pistons because they have good chemistry. GOATed team
@bear92194 жыл бұрын
The most amazing thing about this video is how spot on they were with so many of their predictions of how the next 2-3 years would play out in the nba
@grege50746 жыл бұрын
i'm so distracted by the ticker at the bottom and saying to myself "I REMEMBER KYLE LOHSE!" or "OMG THE EXPOS?!" the nostalgia is real
@henny65662 жыл бұрын
I was looking at is also. The Indians are playing the Mets and the probable starters has a 3-3 CC Sabathia. CC still with the Indians, holy ish where did the time go.
@joeyli43812 жыл бұрын
Crazy this was damn near two decades ago. I remember watching the series while living just miles away from The Palace.
@isnipe4fun7452 жыл бұрын
2000-2010 were such great times to be a Detroit fan
@joshuafult842 жыл бұрын
yup 1 fluke chip after 6 ecf appearances so amazing
@blakeandersonECW4202 жыл бұрын
@@joshuafult84 better than their next 10 years
@hmhm8568 ай бұрын
@@joshuafult84 Pistons did make the Finals also in 2005, and almost won that title against the Spurs as well
@Jay-hk3pe7 жыл бұрын
Childhood nightmare. Forever a laker fan
@tomwanner57865 жыл бұрын
Lakers were lucky to win one game. Kobe hit a ridiculous shot in game 2 to tie it.
@mauricetaylor7888 жыл бұрын
this was 12-years ago but tony was so right
@TheMan7507 жыл бұрын
Especially about Cleveland
@arsenioseslpodcast3143 Жыл бұрын
try 18 years ago
@JJDPROMEDIAPRODUCTION7 жыл бұрын
DEEEEEEEEE Troittttttttttt! BasketBall!!!!!!
@DavidTMSN6 жыл бұрын
The hay day. I grew up in Flint. I loved those years. Forever in my memory.
@noahbacklund744 ай бұрын
Love PTI and Wilbon giving credit to the Pistons. The only problem is Kornheiser's big market bias, which is clearly shown lol.
@plainsimple2447 жыл бұрын
The 2004 Detroit Pistons were great but they should have won at least 4 rings: 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, and if they don't trade Billups, 2009.
@highvoltagemedia71506 жыл бұрын
Plain Simple 2005 for sure. 2006 forget it. D-Wade came into his own and they had revenge on their minds from the game 7 loss at home in the ECF from the year before
@igl4ss6 жыл бұрын
I'm on board with a 2005 championship at a bare minimum. The Pistons protected Darko Milicic and let go of Mehmet Okur, who promptly went on to average roughly 16 points and 8 rebounds for Utah for the next five years while Darko was a total bust . That ONE mistake kept them from winning at least one more championship.
@kevo64636 жыл бұрын
If they took melo in the 03 draft they would have won AT LEAST 3 chips
@jaybird45716 жыл бұрын
Plain Simple if we would have kept Larry Brown we would have been good.
@bennyrobinson19356 жыл бұрын
08?
@Encyclopedia_Brown977 жыл бұрын
Man, at 6:30 every prediction Tony made was accurate
@lousanto10545 жыл бұрын
Almost creepy how correct he was...
@SkodenMOC Жыл бұрын
It still annoying how the big market teams get more of the media attention regardless if they are losing or winning. Detroit Pistons that season deserve every ounce of praise for winning a championship without a single HOF (at least two of them should be already)
@chrisgrissom36105 жыл бұрын
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, I remember this like yesterday
@Zb_Calisthenic5 жыл бұрын
Best team on espn love both these dudes
@blahblahlablah4 жыл бұрын
Damn 2020 and Wilbon looks exactly the same
@vickjr982 жыл бұрын
Lmao. Black don't crack for real
@envyops3 жыл бұрын
Shorthanded Showtime got swept by Pistons in 89, but they fought like hell to the last second. 04 Lakers surrendered and got ran off the court.
@mobetta20922 жыл бұрын
All 3 of the Pistons championship teams were looked down on because they interfered with who the national sports media and league office wanted to be champions (in 1988 they still wanted more Magic and Bird, then in 1989 they wanted Jordan and Magic…1990 they wanted Jordan v Magic or Drexler…in 2004 they wanted more Kobe and Shaq success…in 2005 to 2008 they always wanted Wade, LeBron, or Celts Big 3 from the East in the finals). On another note…Tony’s opening line about Aretha Franklin’s chest and he and Wilbon’s dialogue into the intro music would get them both cancelled in today’s climate.
@brandonknight4314 жыл бұрын
I miss this pistons team so damn much
@artgutierrez65247 жыл бұрын
I still remember I cried when we lost to the Pistons lol
@chrisgrissom36103 жыл бұрын
Watching this live, back then gave me so much joy as it does now.. Give it time, but the pistons will be back to prominence.. Kobe got 5, Should've got 6 rest in power mamba... DEEEEEEEEETROIIIT BASKETBALLLLLLLLL
@supervilla067 жыл бұрын
Back when the NBA was more than 3 teams and great players weren't afraid to play other great players.
@tycalvert73225 жыл бұрын
The Lakers Pistons and Spurs were the only three contenders
@elbowgang97154 жыл бұрын
@@tycalvert7322 nah Indiana definitely was a contender too.
@MikeG824 жыл бұрын
LMAO the lakers and spurs were thought to be the only 2 teams, the pistons became the 3rd after this game, oh and the lakers with malone and payton were a "super team" you are blinded by your nostalgia
@supervilla064 жыл бұрын
MikeG82 Objectivity has nothing to do with nostalgia. I think the upset of this game shows that it actually was a competitive league. Moreover, there was literally a different matchup in the NBA Finals over the next several years. Good try though.
@MikeG824 жыл бұрын
@@supervilla06 this was ONE fluke upset that took an injury by malone and the shaq/kobe relationship finally collapsing to the point of not being able to coexist along with tons of other locker room and organizational drama every other year the clear favorite won but you think this one year proves the league was competitive? the years before this the lakers won 3 in a row, the spurs won 2 before this series and they won the next year too, so one team outside the spurs and lakers won one title in a span of 7 seasons, yeah so competitive LOL guess how many teams won a title in the last 6 years, 4 so that makes the league more competitive now HAHAA good try pretending you actually know something, but any person with a brain can see you are blinded by nostalgia how old were you in 2004? i'm betting you were a child
@tanmartselby69377 жыл бұрын
It took the Lakers a while to get back to championship status after this loss.
@arsenioseslpodcast3143 Жыл бұрын
Bro, four years. Lol. That's not too long.
@tanmartselby6937 Жыл бұрын
Five years, not four.
@justjokinntokin54745 жыл бұрын
Lakers were 7-1 favs ova Pistons bet 400 lost 2800 bookie was laughing allllllllllllllllllllllll the way to the bank n I was crying alllllllllllllllllllllll the way home
@levaneshkitnasamy58354 жыл бұрын
most low key scary statement they made was at the end, "what if Kobe goes to San Antonio?" Can you imagine a Prime Kobe and Prime Duncan, with Parker and Manu (became a star the very next season) along with that defence and Pop, they would have been the warriors before the warriors.
@Loganbub3 жыл бұрын
Yea I’m Not a huge Kobe fan but that would of been unstoppable
@anthonyhutchins6766 жыл бұрын
People knew LeBron was this great back then and thiz was hiz rookie year....
@LeightonAtkinson-bm6of3 ай бұрын
I remember this episode of pardon the interruption Tony Kornshier and Michael wilbon when I was 13 years old
@Randallhombre066 жыл бұрын
best night ever
@OmegaRedFan4 жыл бұрын
Shaq we're on live.
@fireanddesire27477 жыл бұрын
I just love this! Best youtube channel of all time!! Keep them coming!
@OmegaRedFan4 жыл бұрын
I just got here last week lol. Turkeys of the year dude
@HakeemTheDream6163 жыл бұрын
I cried, and celebrated all night after we dominated the Lakers that Lakers team that had a 26 year old Kobe, and a prime Shaq with 2 other first ballot hall of famer's to go with them.
@joshuafult84 Жыл бұрын
cringe
@mrderp83082 жыл бұрын
Bottom right says “Pebble Beach to host 2010 US Open”, I bet when I watched this back in 2004, I said, damn 2010 is so far away :(
@austinsname2 жыл бұрын
Give them pistons some friggin credit. My goodness
@MrDewayne7 жыл бұрын
classic debate
@OmegaRedFan4 жыл бұрын
I miss old tv, you know, before HD times
@PurpleScoutCookies9 жыл бұрын
Always love your videos :)
@dhj9957 жыл бұрын
Ben Wallace dunking all over Fat Shaq and the lakers smh!! 2001 Shaq woulda put Big Ben in the grave. Fat 2004 shaq had no chance. Kobe carried that team thru the western conference just like he did in 2001 and 2002... but fat Shaq couldn't hit the switch like he did in years past. Shaq'S defense was trash. He and Malone couldn't move on any rotations... and GP's 4ppg were a disgrace. Chauncey sliced his ass up and got mvp
@razkable6 жыл бұрын
2006 shaq and payton went to miami and won a title together....sucks to be Malone...the only one of the big 6 lakers Payton shaq Kobe George fisher without a ring...both payton and malone lost to Phil in the finals...funny how they tried teaming up with Phil to win one
@joshuafult844 жыл бұрын
JBSptfn hell no your reaching bro
@Pistol213rd4 жыл бұрын
I dont know why they keep calling this a upset the Pistons were good and had a stacked team!!!
@joshuafult842 жыл бұрын
they were fluke champions
@membersonlydave5 жыл бұрын
holy shit this was the fucking best back in the day. i miss these days of espn
@mrbigstump633 жыл бұрын
Man that bust joke would get him KILLED now!
@aidenwestbrook31037 жыл бұрын
Omg look at Michael wilbon
@MrT85996 жыл бұрын
I personally have always been a fan of Wilbon with glasses. But he rarely wears them now, if not ever.
@OmegaRedFan4 жыл бұрын
He looks like Jonathan Coachman LOL
@johnperez31633 жыл бұрын
The 2004 Lakers were the biggest soap opera in the entire league. So much went wrong in the finals for them. Guys clearly did not care about playing hard, too many egos, guys were old and worn out physically and mentally, Kobe and Shaq couldn't stand each other and the Pistons were just better. They basically put the nail in the coffin on LA for at least the next 8 years.
@jordandowns52368 жыл бұрын
05:12 why does it says 2010 us open when this 2004
@baseballversteht35488 жыл бұрын
Exactly what it says. I remembering seeing that stuff of (x) is coming in 2011. By then you just dont care too much. But then when it does come, you go; "Woah I remember that announcement. Time flies away"
@brandonknight4314 жыл бұрын
For 2010
@ForzaMilan-di2zd4 ай бұрын
Luv that the experts were like hers in 4 Pistons can't score😂
@robertcapehart55585 жыл бұрын
The revamped Shaq/Kobe beef brought me here
@williamgrantham4481 Жыл бұрын
Good Show
@korianpadgett7754 Жыл бұрын
I remember when the Lakers were waiting on the Pacers/Pistons finals to finish and on this show they said it doesn’t matter because the Lakers are going to win.
@kylemitchell55123 ай бұрын
“What if Tracy mcgrady goes west” prophetic
@RonGallagher4 жыл бұрын
Five Game Sweep......
@ashleyice6884 жыл бұрын
They were beaten by a better team, plain & simple..
@MekkelRichards6 жыл бұрын
Pistons '04-4-LYF
@timtodd18456 жыл бұрын
Chauncey was that one guy he was fuckin Fisher up bad
@jaybird45716 жыл бұрын
Tim Todd Gary Payton was matched up with billups for that series. He demolished Payton..i don't think Payton scored 25 points total the whole series. DETROIT STAND UP!
@jayyarbrough99022 жыл бұрын
I love it when the Pistons are good. They like to put hands on whoever pretending to be America's team.
@johnperez31634 жыл бұрын
Malone should've gotten his ring that year.
@timtodd18456 жыл бұрын
Franklin we went to four five. conference finals what u mean final year after conference finals next year then Boston came remember I'm from Detroit
@Yako9x164 жыл бұрын
pistons failed to add young talent as their core aged
@Loganbub3 жыл бұрын
Yup or really much talent at all.
@tanmartselby69372 ай бұрын
They totally slept on the Spurs at the end. Smh
@israelhernandez54827 жыл бұрын
I'm a huge laker fan and this lost hurts more then Lakers losing to Celtics with garnet, Allen and paul. That Lakers team was not ready for the Celtics but with Detroit, that was bad. for some reason the Lakers were not playing their butts off, no hustle, no nothing. Detroit just came in and almost sweap them out. at least put up a fight and who knows maybe they go to game 7. even if Lakers loose at least they fought till the end. oh well. memories.
@dhj9957 жыл бұрын
04 pistons hurt more than 08 celtics for me as well. 04 spurs and 04 Wolves with KG as MVP were better than those wack pistons... LAL had 0 chemistry in the finals. Pistons get to every loose ball smh
@andrewcrawford46354 жыл бұрын
Kobe said after the first half of game 1 that the Lakers hadn’t played the Pistons much and was just feeling their way around them. Maybe assumed they would do better in the second half with their normal ‘fast breaks’ but the Pistons defense was too tough. Shaq did put up about 30 points though.
@joshuafult842 жыл бұрын
the reason the lakers beat the spurs and tw wolves easy compared to the pistons is because once Kobe had his eyes set on finals MVP he shot the lakers out the series right into Detroit's gameplan
@tolicelawrence4612 жыл бұрын
Let's be real. The Pistons out played the Lakers mentally and physically. No one wanted to give them a chance . They wanted to give excuses for the reason why the Lakers did not win just like they did with the 89 Piston champions . People still until this day do not give both teams credit for their hard work winning championships. Both teams kicked BUTTTTTTTT !🤣👏❤
@LeightonAtkinson-bm6of3 ай бұрын
Will they lose Phil Jackson Kobe Bryant Shaq Karl Malone and Gary Payton
@blue_venom75853 жыл бұрын
0:47
@MekkelRichards6 жыл бұрын
Pavement is playing
@cjvaye992 жыл бұрын
I still hate the pistons over that loss
@kmacadaeg74 жыл бұрын
Deeeeeetroit Basketbaaaaaallll!!!
@smokinnplatez14265 ай бұрын
The lakers beat san antonio the following years champ and Minnesota the team with the best record
@PillowsCoolside3 жыл бұрын
Kobe's jealous ass cost them the title and it was beautiful.
@rexflex75482 жыл бұрын
Nha Larry brown out coach Phil Jackson facts
@phillipmoore62494 жыл бұрын
Kobe Bryant lost them the series FACTS
@LeightonAtkinson-bm6of3 ай бұрын
And will Shaq asked out
@DopeItzTheeOne6 жыл бұрын
If only if we've drafted Melo would could've won a few more rings.
@jaybird45716 жыл бұрын
Elroy Ak I'm glad we didn't get mello. He's very overrated. Look at him...he never really reached his zenith.
@henny65662 жыл бұрын
@@jaybird4571 I love Melo and think he gets a bad rep but I don't see Detroit winning with him for the fact that if they drafted Melo they more than likely don't trade for Rasheed. Sheed is the main reason they got a ring.
@jaybird45712 жыл бұрын
@@henny6566 💪🏾💯💯💯 Mello was not a good fit at the time
@henny65662 жыл бұрын
@@jaybird4571 He really isn't especially since he never cared to play D and that team was all about defense. Plus Rasheed is the reason why won it all. Him and Big Ben down low made it impossible to score on. Unless they draft Melo and somehow trade for Sheed still that's the only way I see them winning more rings.
@AJ-vm8ft Жыл бұрын
Can’t score 70? No, that was their opponents.
@fannygarita51254 жыл бұрын
resident evil 2 remake
@Buzz17565 жыл бұрын
If only shaq wasn’t so selfish. They wouldve won this championship
@100spurs3 жыл бұрын
Fucking stupid. Kobe was the culprit here.
@joshuafult842 жыл бұрын
Kobetard not realizing Kobe shot them out the series
@100spurs8 ай бұрын
You dumb. Kobe doomed them
@franklinclinton34768 жыл бұрын
what have the Pistons done since winning it all in 2004 Nothing
@UofMwolverines48 жыл бұрын
+Franklin Clinton.. They went to the finals the following year, almost winning it but losing in 7 games. Then followed that up with another three straight trips to the ECF to make it six straight appearances there. That's a lot of success. As for your comment below, I have no idea what makes you say they cheated against MJ. Sure, they were a dirty team, but nothing they did were outside of the rules that were in place in the NBA at the time. You clearly are a hater and don't know much about basketball.
@franklinclinton34768 жыл бұрын
Spencer Reece almost mean nothing
@franklinclinton34768 жыл бұрын
Spencer Reece i do know basketball and not a hater
@archive7538 жыл бұрын
+Franklin Clinton you just sound salty as hell. These pistons were great, and this new version will only get better
@franklinclinton34768 жыл бұрын
look it the truth what had they done since 04 Ismael Santos
@phillipmoore62495 жыл бұрын
Kobe lost these finals
@melissadavis7590 Жыл бұрын
I will disrespect your sports now. All but 2004. Championship player damien jones