Public Land Stud At 20 Yards, The October Lull Is A Myth

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[@Jeffchizoate]

The October Lull is the biggest myth. The deer are still moving during daylight, you just aren’t close enough to their bedroom.

[@Jakeperricellia]

One of the biggest myths is probably” if you aren’t hunting everyday you’re never gonna get anything” some people think this but what they don’t realize is they put pressure on stands and don’t realize it deer aren’t stupid they notice !

[@jameskylebrowning7]

Starting to think scent spray is a myth. I’ve used it but haven’t noticed a difference on seeing deer or deer smelling me.

[@wags9893]

Not so much a myth but more a misconception, is that it’s too expensive to get into hunting for someone new to the sport. Permission properties and cheaper options can make it pretty cheap and well worth it.

[@anthonysanders2477]

I would say the biggest hunting myth in my opinion is that camouflage is important. I think deer rely more on scent and movement than they notice what you’re wearing. Countless stories of individuals in something other than camo and successfully harvesting a mature animal.

[@ralphempson2719]

MWW Rocks......Thanks guys. I could watch these all day....

[@NateThurman-d8z]

I’ve been a Chasing November fan since the first season! Always love watching these episodes to get hyped up for the upcoming season. Also nice to learn a thing to two as well. Great job fellas.

[@ShotsByShopes]

Biggest myth is hunting “the best days”. Any day you’re out in the woods, you can see and learn from observing any deer you see. Great episode! Love Season 9! 🔥

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[@Outdoors67]

As a new sub I love the story behind the hunt. Not just a 2 min clip and kill shot. I have thoroughly enjoyed what I've seen so far.

[@jacoblittle9895]

Great season. Look forward to watching every day after work!

[@chrisjay1986]

Another great episode. Some true world class deer being chased! Biggest hunting Myth I'd say is the October Lull as many others have posted. Getting dialed in and finding core areas for those target deer make the "lull" a non factor if you can get in on one with the conditions right.

[@TheWVgoodguy22]

One of the biggest myths is only hunt evenings in early season. 😃🏹🦌🌞 Another great episode by the way gentlemen. 🙂

[@whippoorwillwoods6282]

Let’s go!! Best way to end a day of work is a new episode of Chasing November! 🤙

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Be sure to let us know what you think and enjoy your weekend! Any big plans?

[@whippoorwillwoods6282]

@@MidwestWhitetailVideos great episode! Never explored rope scrapes and heard it mentioned and saw one in this episode! Definitely going to look into trying it! Still working, but gator season opened here in FL so I’ll be chasing dinosaurs while day dreaming of chasing November 🤣

[@will27628]

Sweet video. The biggest myth I’ve been told is to not sit morning early season. For me personally I have found success in the morning during September and October.

[@mitchellgenz1373]

Biggest myth October lull. Last 10 days of October are the best to hunt. Great video guys.

[@dmw1306]

The Spot and Stawk hunts are just the most exciting and hardest of Whitetail hunting to me. And to be able to get your hunt on video? Full on fun. times. But it's never easy.

[@benarkema4770]

Nocturnal bucks. Great episode again!

[@karsonhull7230]

Another great one guys! The biggest myth is nocturnal bucks, they always move during the day but if you get them only at night that usually means you aren’t near their bedding area or main stay area imo.

[@laterraoutdoors8001]

For me it has to be the “October lull” or bucks being completely nocturnal. Another great episode guys!

[@MidwestWhitetailVideos]

Thank you for the support and we’re glad you’re liking the series so far! October lull seems to be the number one answer so far. Good luck this season!

[@jonathanunderhill6213]

Great watch! The biggest myth for me is moon phase.

[@paytondavid5]

Biggest myth is that big rubs always equals big bucks. I’ve seen little bucks absolutely shred trees and I’ve also seen big bucks make little rubs. Love you guys’ videos! Keep em coming 🔥

[@jamesarettajr501]

October lull! Good episode.

[@MidwestWhitetailVideos]

Mid October can definitely be a challenging time but you can get yourself in the game for a shot no doubt. Good luck this fall James and we appreciate the support!

[@derekklug_outdoors8703]

Skipping morning hunts in early season… I have had several good morning hunts at the very beginning of the season

[@GrantLauters]

Big bucks always move at dusk or dawn....After years out with my grandpa learning the bucks on our property, I was able to harvest my biggest back to date during mid day.

[@capeharttw]

The biggest hunting myth to me is hunting the late season for bow. Many people believe that you won’t see deer unless you are over food. I have seen multiple deer late season that were over a mile away from food. Great video!

[@elijahheeringa2908]

I would probably say one of the bigger myths is nocturnal bucks. Sure they may move a lot more in the dark but its not like they are in a hole during the day lol. They are out there somewhere, just gotta find them.

[@MidwestWhitetailVideos]

Getting in tight to the bedroom can for sure challenge this myth sometimes and others you can do everything right and they may not move. It's one of those things that you don't know if you don't go! Thank you for taking the time to watch and we hope that you enjoy the episode!

[@scottwilkins3481]

What kind of vines does Caleb use for scrapes?

[@CamdenHamlett-gx8eg]

A myth for me is When people say bucks don’t move in October. If you have good conditions, are smart about the wind, and sometimes food, you can find any buck!

[@Tystewie7]

“You can’t be aggressive hunting a mature deer” sometimes you have to take what the deer gives you and make your own success!

[@GaToRBoY268]

Good stuff yall 🔥

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We appreciate that support and thank you for the kind words!

[@a1outdoors16]

October Lull! It could be different depending upon state but i’ve never just seen the shut down that some people talk about. I think some people move off of early season afternoon food sources when they see that first scrape or rub. As tempting as those are, they won’t be very consistent until close to pre rut/rut. Once again this could vary depending upon state!

[@AlecGray-h4d]

The October lull! Just get out in the woods and you still have a very good chance at succeeding!

[@salinecreekmafia9940]

Hunting the moon phases seem to be a bluff to me!!! Or maybe a “fully” nocturnal buck!

[@MidwestWhitetailVideos]

That's an interesting take! Both of them are for sure controversial topics and there are definitely arguments to both sides. Thank you for taking the time to reply and we appreciate your support!

[@jimmytillman206]

I think I recognize that spot he’s at in the first clip.

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Maybe you’ve been there before Jimmy!

[@caseycolemer1582]

The biggest myth is October lull !

[@MidwestWhitetailVideos]

You can have some great hunts in the mid October months if you have the conditions and the food to do so. Great point Casey and we appreciate you taking the time to watch. Thank you for your support.

[@whippoorwillwoods6282]

Biggest myth in my experience is “feed times based off moon phases”. It’s all I heard growing up, but after years of being in the woods, there are way more impactful factors that play into deer movement.

[@MidwestWhitetailVideos]

This seems to be a reoccurring answer. Some people believe in this and some people don’t believe in it at all. Good luck this fall and we hope that you enjoyed the episode!

[@SoooonerSean]

That was a hammer of an eight wow

[@andrewjmcgarvey]

The biggest myth for me is that “October lull” I have had some of my best sits during that “dreaded” time! I love October!

[@codygallagher8689]

I was always told big bucks don't move in the rain.

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Have you noticed different patterns in your hunting?

[@codygallagher8689]

@@MidwestWhitetailVideos I've seen more mature bucks move in the rain. And they stuck to more woods than being in the open

[@samuelelsberry2826]

​My best hunts have been in a light rain or mist. I don't know if theres any science to it. Maybe I just got lucky those days.

[@cameronlucas6985]

I believe a myth is the early season mornings I’ve had a lot of luck on opening day mornings through my experience.

[@jakeberger6930]

That “young deer are better eating than mature deer”. It’s 100% how it’s handled and prepared IMO

[@chaseknowles8726]

I think the biggest myth is that the best time to hunt is the rut. Mid-late October is the best here in iowa in my opinion!

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Everyone has there favorite time of the season to get after the big ones. Best of luck this season Chase and thank you for taking the time to watch!

[@codycrandall8491]

“Bucks don’t move in October” funny thing is I use to believe this myth. I use to hunt with a buddy who swore there is no action in October here in Wisconsin. Funny thing is all my other buddies are dragging out trophy bucks in October. Here I am sitting in the below zeros watching squirrels wrestle…

[@bradleyschwartz3770]

I think the biggest hunting myth relates to the dry doe. Some people think that if a doe doesn’t have fawns with her in early season that she is potentially an older doe and could be on the way outs which in fact is probably not true. These deer live out in the wild and a lot of different scenarios could have happened to her fawns. I do like to think that if a doe doesn’t have fawns with her though that it would be a good one to shoot since her fawns aren’t relying on her especially come September when they are old enough to survive on their own most likely.

[@danaustin5777]

I believe the biggest myth is that public land sucks and is overcrowded. with some effort and a few years of experience you can avoid people most of the time and still have good hunts. A couple run ins a year with other hunters is a lot better than dumping 500 grand on a farm for hunting as far as I am concerned.

[@KaleDowning]

Man Guards is a giant!! I think the biggest myth is not to bother hunting in high winds. I’ve seen big deer move in high winds and I’ve killed a couple in high winds, especially if it slows down just a touch as the sun sets.

[@DylanPeters-n1z]

The rut happens weeks apart based off moon phase. In my experience most of the does go in heat around same time just a couple fall closer to full moon

[@MidwestWhitetailVideos]

There’s a ton of opinions on this. Great point Dylan! We appreciate the support and hope you’re enjoying the series so far.

[@shawn.ski3531]

The October lull is the biggest myth in my opinion! Most of the mature buck pictures I get are mid-late November, typically while I’m at work 😂

[@darinmickelson7964]

I think one of the biggest whitetail myths is that bucks will always travel with the wind in their face or that you as a hunter can beat a deers nose with scentlok and scent spray

[@KonnorKing-d7u]

The biggest myth I think is the rut being the best time of the year to hunt. I have had much more success in late October more than I have in the first couple weeks of November. Maybe it is my location but I still think late October is the best time of the year.

[@GarrettSchwanke]

I do not believe the higher a tree stand is, the better it will produce. Some of my favorite stand sit only 10-15 feet off the ground. Blending, scent control, and managing the stands position are much more critical than the height or level of the stand.

[@drewhartman6610]

I think the biggest myth is that bucks scrape heavy after a rain because they want to clean their scrapes out. Deer naturally move on weather events and I think thats why you see elevating scraping events after a rain.

[@donnieball7994]

I have no clue I don't pay attention to stuff like that. I'll just go and hunt. But in my area where I live I hear people say full moon they will feed all night.

[@corytreffert9614]

The biggest myth is the October lull. Deer change things up, we need to as well. If you had a ton of cell cams stay in the same spot through the season, you’d find cameras go hot and cold as the season progresses.

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Deer patterns change as the season goes on. You’ve got to adapt and put yourself in the game depending on the time of year. Good luck this season Cory and thank you for taking the time to watch the episode!

[@bmalone0688]

The biggest myth is probably people saying the rut is early/late/didn’t happen. It happens at roughly the same time every year depending on the region. Just sometimes the weather showcases it better than other times

[@paulkorolchuk5628]

The biggest myth is not pissing out of your tree stand thinking it’s going to ruin your hunt! As long as they don’t see you, you’re good!

[@jaytrexler6543]

Biggest myth is Bo winkle who’s been running around my town now for 48 years oldest deer known to mankind 😂😂😂

[@KWilson1998]

Biggest myth for me is hunting off strictly moon phases. I understand the full moon aspect on how they might move more at night because the can see more but they gotta be up on their feet at some point through out the day to feed. Just gotta get out there and hunt when you can

[@masonmisfeledt8316]

the biggest hunting myth is that bucks are nocturnal, they might be walking by your cameras at night but they move during the day just in different areas

[@MidwestWhitetailVideos]

Scouting and knowing your property can play dividends in seeing daylight deer activity! Good one Mason and we appreciate your support.

[@tdooutdoors]

This myth is more location based but growing up in Oklahoma, I was always told by older hunters that the reason Oklahoma don't see very many big bucks is because of the deer herds genetics. Once Oklahoma started actively wanting doe's killed to get the state's overall doe:buck ratio right, that's when the state started to shine. It wasn't because of genetics, it was due to areas having to many doe to buck per square mile. One of my area's I hunted, I would see anywhere from 20 to 35 doe before I'd ever see a buck and when I would see that buck, it was normally a spike. Not only were the deer fighting each other for nutrients to grow, the bigger, older bucks didn't have to go anywhere during the rut due to so many doe around them. In my area, a 60" buck was big and when someone would kill an actual big buck, they were accused of being poachers because it was so rare too see.

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A healthy herd with a good sex ratio is always a recipe for success! Good luck this season and thank you for the support.

[@huntermast9852]

The biggest myth is nocturnal bucks. Bucks may be walking past your camera at midnight consistently, but they are often up and moving during the day as well

[@evannhunter]

I think the biggest myth is that when you spook that deer you’ll never see em again. While obviously every situation is different and every deer can react differently, a lot of my late summer scouting there’s times I’ll spook does and bucks, buck it’s like the next time your out you see the same ones. While it’s definitely different during the season, not every spooked deer will disappear.

[@jacktully8001]

The infamous “October Lull”

[@derektate6925]

A myth for me is that you need to hunt from treestands/saddles/blinds. I love to ground hunt and have had good luck doing it

[@AviatorCulley]

Not a huge mythical person, but I would say the biggest myth is the idea that deer don’t have a sixth sense. I believe that they do, and this is where Hecs can give you the upper hand. I’ve seen a huge difference in the way deer act around me when I’m wearing my Hecs gear!

[@gavinnelson1119]

I think the biggest myth is that you have to have a lot of your own acres in order to harvest a big deer.

[@Woodland-Gangsta]

It does increase your odds greatly.

[@MidwestWhitetailVideos]

Good point Gavin, there are great deer that die on public land every season as illustrated by our own Gavin Koterba last season. Thank you for your support and we hope that you're enjoying the series so far!

[@josephmoran6730]

I think the biggest myth is that the gas station breakfast burrito before heading into the woods is a great idea and won’t have any negative impacts on the hunt 😂 Actually though, I’ve never really believed the October lull. Hunting specific conditions and locations on a property have left me with success in all portions of October.

[@roberthill9802]

The biggest hunting myth is that peeing from your stand bothers deer. I’ve peed directly into scrapes and had multiple deer check the scrape the same day. Thanks for the chance

[@leonmast7490]

Pry nocturnal bucks, they gotta be somewhere!

[@parkerolson1612]

As a large chunk of the comments are saying, I agree that the biggest myth is the October lull! Sure there may be slower times but I think during this time your tactics may just need to change a little to stay successful

[@derekwilcox3896]

Definitely the October lull!

[@fishaholicfishingteam1108]

Biggest hunting myth has to be that you need to have farm fields to have big deer. Although yes it's nice I've been fortunate that I have a small family piece of only 10 acres that borders some ag land and has more rut activity than any farm property I have permission to hunt. Little diamond in the rough. Easily would've been overlooked but has been my most productive spot for the last week of Oct./ early Nov. Every season

[@Blinkie05]

I think the October lull is a myth but I do agree that buck movement does change. I have seen the biggest bucks I have ever seen during this lull period and I didn’t change my hunting tactics at all.

[@Backwoodsbullrider]

The biggest hunting myth I hear is it’s too hot for big deer to move. I killed my biggest on an 80 degree day. I was dressed like I was turkey hunting. It was unusually warm for a November day in Indiana, but the heat doesn’t always slow them down.

[@MatthewZiemer]

Absolutely love these shows but WAY too many ads on KZbin

[@zachniverson8816]

My biggest myth is that warm weather delays the rut. Rut happens regardless of the weather and it happens the same time every year in fact recorded data shows that does come in to estrous the same day year after year..

[@richardmanipole4356]

The biggest myth is that there is no sencond rut. There definitely is but in my area it tends to fall during our late season and most giys are done hunting. Its not as intense but it does happen.

[@JasonBacon56]

The biggest hunting myth is that it is ok to plan a wedding during hunting season. Feel for Mike on that one.

[@ericwells1988]

I think a big myth is that hunting over bait is easy. Big bucks are smart regardless of what food is in front of them.

[@MidwestWhitetailVideos]

A big buck is gonna “big buck”. Mature deer don’t get old for no reason. We appreciate the support Eric and thank you for taking the time to watch the episode and we hope you’re enjoying the series.

[@l5pkreider8]

I’d have to say October lull, have had good hunts during this time.

[@cheetomofo8236]

Depending on who you listen to that there are "bad weeks" or "bad days" and not taking in account YOUR particular property and situation.

[@chrisgregory1389]

I think the biggest myth is that deer go nocturnal. The research done at Mississippi State University deer lab doesn't show that to be the case. Deer may change their travel patterns but they are daylighting somewhere it may just not be where we want them to be.

[@austinmcpheron3722]

Biggest myth to me is that the “the rut didn’t happen this year.” May see less daylight movement at times due to various factors, but Mother Nature will run its course year in and year out.

[@ericweaver4643]

A couple things come to mind. That a deer that’s shot won’t run uphill. If a deer blows the hunt is over.

[@bengreene6293]

That moon phases affect deer movement. While the theory makes sense, the collars in studies just don't back it up.

[@palmerboyd1824]

I think the biggest myth is that deer are color blind. I think they see objects instead of one thing which is why they see movement so well I think they see color fine just in a different way then we do.

[@dacehartman7286]

Big bucks walk on deer trails.

[@AustinStockton154]

A Myth I’ve been told is we never had big deer on our property. Although it may not be 200 inch giants with the right preparation I believe there could be something in the years grow and be big

[@kalyncouch4896]

Biggest myth ive heard is to wait until the first big cold front to move in before getting out there

[@jadonminton2663]

October “lull” for sure.

[@collinmetzger8159]

The October lull is the obvious answer but I truly believe it's the biggest deer hunting myth

[@drewpettett5503]

biggest myth to me is deer wont move in the rain or heavy wind because of the sound.

[@MidwestWhitetailVideos]

At some point they have to get up! Thanks for the support drew and we appreciate your support.

[@BriceOtte-v2o]

Biggest hunting myth is the October lull, if you’ve got the intel and the spot and the weather you can still get it done!

[@brodybarker-v8i]

Not really a hunting myth but when you’re driving around looking at deer they usually stay calm if you keep your music blaring. I don’t think it does anything if you turn your music down.

[@nickreinsbach6335]

Biggest hunting myth is scent control helping even if youre up wind

[@jacksondemoss5990]

Nocturnal bucks is the biggest myth, the deer are always moving, just gotta find out how and where they are.

[@jordanschaefer2692]

Wind direction doesn’t matter was the biggest myth I was told lol

[@daverobbins3751]

That you can’t kill em from The couch. Sometimes it’s best to not hunt until the conditions are right

[@markwhite-mossyoakproperties]

I think the biggest hunting myth that I hear is that deer movement is based on the moon phases. I have bow hunted for 34 years with hundreds of thousands of trail cam pictures and the moon phases have very little impact on deer movement. Certainly not enough to plan around with consistency.

[@MadelinePeterson-je5hk]

I think the biggest myth is all the scent eliminating sprays

[@brayden3792]

Biggest myth is the October lull if you are in the right place in the right time October can one of the best times to hunt.

[@ColbyStokes-ih7rl]

Definitely would have to say the October Lull.

[@drewthompson6559]

I’m not sure the facts on this but it’s never made sense to me, when people say that a doe will run their fawns miles away so they don’t end up breeding their offspring, but then I’ll see bucks carry certain characteristics, I mean I have deer on the wall that look like the same deer shot years apart? Maybe someone can shed some light on this topic

[@MidwestWhitetailVideos]

This is an interesting topic. We will have to look up some research and get some more information on this topic. What are some other guys thoughts on this topic?

[@brendanbaker5487]

Biggest myth is nocturnal bucks! Yes deer are mostly a nocturnal animal, but their anatomy makes them get up and move multiple times a day. He’s moving somewhere!