Public Talkshow with Bill Drayton (CEO of Ashoka) and Ulil Abshar Abdalla

Watch the conversation of Bill Drayton (CEO of Ashoka) and Ulil Abshar Abdalla (Chairman of the PBNU Institute for Research and Development of Human Resources); two Harvard graduates who are movement leaders and changemakers in their own right. Moderated by Ufi Ulfiah, this conversation discuses why everyone needs to have the power to give, and why even guardians of traditions should also embrace changemaking.