Puccini: Tosca (Live, 1989) | Herbert von Karajan, Berlin Philharmonic

[@goscinnydyrygent]

two things among the many that are striking: 1) various people here are commenting on Karjan's "control," but in fact there are many many places where he elects not to conduct precisely, but instead to rely on the orchestra knowing how the music goes, and in effect inviting the players to listen to the stage and go along with the singers. 2) the great majority of the time, he does what conductors are taught to avoid, i.e. "mirroring," showing the same thing with both arms at once. It feels natural, and is probably helpful to players watching from the extreme ends of the pit. Obviously he felt no need to "score points" by giving a demonstration of by-the-book maestro technique. Personally I would not say that this shows him at his very best, but it definitely shows him as an "old pro" of the opera house, leading a secure performance, trusting his singers and players, and ready to get specific when specificity is needed.

[@lesterrosa-santos5641]

I couldn’t believe my eyes: Karajan unedited! Thanks so much! A treasure…

[@IrishVader]

Me neither when I found it, a rare treasure indeed

[@mmm48398]

亡くなる110日前・・・・信じられない いつまでも記憶に残る演奏と指揮姿 なんという指揮者だろう・・・・

[@Robert...Schrey]

Many of us have remained loyal to Herbert, and now, at the most unlikely moment, we have been richly rewarded, haven’t we? 🎭

[@nigelshoreoboe5398]

Wow, thank you! I have been looking for a recording of this performance for ages, as I was playing in it as a young orchestral musician and will never forget it!

[@peterclemenz881]

Toll. Wie haben Sie sein Dirigat empfunden? Wie er auf die Bühne kam, körperlich ein Haufen Schrott, aber dann, wenn er erst einmal stand, diese kräftigen und ausdrucksvollen Bewegungen... "es musiziert", hier scheint es mit tatsächlich erreicht zu sein.

[@IrishVader]

Thanks for sharing, it's great to hear the numerous stories that have emerged since posting this, of those who were in the audience and several musicians also

[@jean-christiandureuil8798]

Tout simplement exceptionnel. Merci infiniment pour cette publication.

[@angelodias243]

This vídeo is a treasure. Watching Karajan dealing full time with the uncertainties of an opera performance. And with his eyes open!!! And from memory!!! God bless who had this insight back in 1989.

[@music15mus]

Unbelievable! Thank you for publishing this! I sang there myself as a member of the Zurich Boys' Choir. The production was and is one of the most impressive things I have ever seen in the entire opera world. Gotthard Odermatt, Composer.

[@PaoloLucci]

E' incredibile come Karajan abbia potuto dirigere un'opera cosi impegnativa a pochi mesi dalla morte!! Una tempra d'acciaio!

[@brynjarhoff-lr6hw]

Fantastic moment of genial operaconducting!Karajan shows his love for singers and opera,after my tast nobody can du this to day and not in the future. Former solooboeist in The Norwegian Opera…Brynjar Hoff

[@SnikkerDerVon]

Its so cool we can watch, admire and study it on youtube! Thx for uploading

[@hanscastorp2652]

this document is gold. Thank you so, so, so much.

[@grillotalpa96]

The BOSS absolutely. With the limits and the richnesses of his age. Unbelievable! ❤ upload unexpected as much as welcome! Immeasurable treasure! Thank you!

[@STEPHANM0ELLER]

Thank you very much for uploading; this video awakens fond memories; I was working as a rehearsal pianist for the Salzburg Easter Festival back then!

[@IrishVader]

Thank you for sharing. It looked to be a very successful performance

[@henriquelian7878]

HvK was a superb (I would say supreme) opera condutor what is sometimes overshadowed by his symphonic success. This video is one more, and last, testimony of his dramatic instinct!

[@paologuiotto2344]

Wonderful document. What an incredible voice Pavarotti had when he was still singing!

[@60bui]

Meraviglioso, tutta l'opera vista dal Direttore, è che Direttore!!! Una grande lezione per tutti!!! 👍👍👍

[@Mrrapamusic]

Anche a lei dopo il video di vito è uscito questo su youtube nei consigliati?

[@60bui]

@@Mrrapamusic Esatto, è una lezione di Musica grandissima. Inoltre sto proprio studiando Tosca, e questo video mi rende il lavoro più interessante e, un poco, meno faticoso.

[@atuttostatutto4506]

Bravissimo!!! Salzburg 18.03.1989, 18:00 Uhr Großes Festspielhaus TOSCA Dirigent: Herbert von Karajan Berliner Philharmoniker Inszenierung: Herbert von Karajan Bühnenbild: Günther Schneider-Siemssen Kostüme: Magda Gstrein Chordirektor: Helmuth Froschauer Floria Tosca: Josephine Barstow Mario Cavaradossi: Luciano Pavarotti Scarpia: Alain Fondary Cesare Angelotti: Gottfried Hornik Sagrestano: Italo Tajo Spoletta: Piero de Palma Sciaronne: Wolfgang Scheider Carceriere: Walter Zeh Patorello: Tammy Hensrud Konzertvereinigung Wiener Staatsopernchor Zürcher Sängerknaben

[@MrThepresident2009]

Thank you very much, I tried to find videos of this last Karajan Tosca, but never found one... You gave me a joy I cannot describe!

[@paolo8888]

Incredibile!!! Tutto a memoria, a quell’età e a poco dalla morte…

[@mediolanumhibernicus3353]

This is a most extraordinary document. I did not know it existed and am very grateful to the uploader. Without exaggeration, I think this is one of the most important uploads in decades. I am astonished at Karajan’s total control, and how much he communicates technically and expressively with his beautiful gestures. The body was frail, but the mind is frighteningly alert, and his powers of memory and utter self -confidence would have been the envy of Toscanini. I am subscribing immediately to the channel. I don’t know how the uploader got access to this, - but I’m sticking around to see if there’s more. I’m also saviing this immediately just in case the Karajan estate have it taken down. Though why they should I can’t imagine. It shows the Maestro in the most flattering of lights. What a pleasure!

[@IrishVader]

@@mediolanumhibernicus3353 Thank you for the great comment. I agree it's a precious document of Karajan at work. I found it on a non KZbin streaming site so I am resharing from there but I wanted this to be available to as wide an audience as possible, it's a great educational material as well as the performance itself

[@ericleung4313]

@@IrishVadernon-YT may I know which site?

[@kchichon]

@@IrishVader Hello Michael - what is the name of the no youtube streaming site? thank you

[@xxxxxx-gw7lh]

@@IrishVader Is this video authorized to be distributed? A real shame.

[@dvorakslavenskiples]

this is from 1989 because Pavarotti sung in Karajan's last opera production. This is definitely the last video of the late great maestro! Thank you for the upload!

[@novagerio]

We all can hear it's Luciano. Wasn't Josephine Barstow Tosca?

[@MrThepresident2009]

​@@novagerio Yes, Barstow was Tosca...

[@paules3437]

Just for your knowing, the word you want is "definitely." This is a word that even native English speakers misspell. Something about it makes it hard. I've seen is spelled 'defanately" difinitiely' and, worst of all "defiantly." It has the word "finite" in it, if that helps. Meanwhile, always great to hear Pavarotti! Glad you enjoyed this.

[@wwung1801]

It was NOT Pavarotti's voice. It was not in Berlin, but Salzburg.

[@novagerio]

@wwung1801 yes it was Pavarotti. Check the attached link

[@DanielKirillov-iv3ww]

Absolute gem

[@ootamanabu]

superb!!!!! ultimate special live final season video !!!!!!

[@7skorpio]

Egy életmű zseniális ékkőve. Köszönöm az élményt.

[@wisjoh1]

Absolute Wahn-sinn !! Karajan und Pavarotti !!!

[@robertvandertoorn3306]

Absolute super , thank you very much , i was inside in both Tosca performances in 1989

[@philipmichelon5268]

Lucky you! I was at the previous Tosca a few years earlier with Carreras. Unfortunately I was on board nuclear submarine that day of March 89😢

[@AfroPoli]

What a magnificent document!!!

[@mariusfelixlange6709]

Habe nicht gelesen, wer singt...höre "Che fai?" und denke, "Ah, der singt!" 🙂

[@christophwendel8227]

Habe diese Tosca als Gesangstudent des Mozarteums hören dürfen. Danke heute noch der Chorsängerin der Wiener Staatsoper, welche mir am Abend vorher unbekannter Weise die Karte geschenkt hatte❤ Unvergesslich ....

[@philipmichelon5268]

Quel trésor ! Merci infiniment ! At 1:23:16 Karajan is not happy that the flute is playing a little bit too long or too loud ! For sure I wouldn't have noticed it live in the Festpielhaus 😊 That's a reason among others why such archives are so precious ❤️

[@ヘクトル-x2e]

パヴァロッテイの声をバックに(!?)「星は光ぬ」を指揮するカラヤンの姿のみを見ることができるなんてなんという贅沢だろう！

[@christopherbuilder5354]

fantastic to see this!! Love every second

[@gunnarmerkert2118]

Sensationelle Aufnahme. I love it.

[@wordsworks7084]

Danke! Danke! Danke! Was für ein Begleiter und wie souverän!

[@hectorberlioz1449]

Karajan did Tosca many times in his last years and recorded it also with almost the same forces for DG a couple of years before this performances in Salzburg. It is really remarkable how the BPO played it, because Karajan's beat became very unclear , fussy and difficult to follow! Sometimes it's a big mess! But the tension and the expression are still there!

[@antoniosommese5793]

Che documento straordinario

[@massimofolpini7830]

Grandissimo direttore!🌹

[@ianng9915]

Manifesting for more like this. Thank you so much

[@AALavdas]

Amazing! Thank you

[@atsumoritokyo1101]

To think he passed away just four months after this performance... May he rest in peace. No doubt this is the result of Karajan's independent, voluntary and greedy learning from his first job as second conductor at the tiny, seven-meter-wide stage shed of the Ulm City Opera. What a positive change in Karajan's thinking! After the performance, as they were leaving for the dressing room, we could see the members of the Berlin Philharmonic in tears. At the time, Karajan and the Berlin Philharmonic were in the midst of a conflict over the joining of the clarinetist Sabine Meyer, but the issue at hand was on a completely different level from what was happening on stage. Here we can get a glimpse of the psychological structure of the members of the orchestra, motivated by none other than the greatest maestro of his time, Karajan, who played the entire piece by heart without even having to open the score, keeping an eye on the stage and maneuvering with agility. Because he himself directed with supervised the operas, he had to constantly watch the movements of the singers on stage, so Karajan's belief was that he should conduct the performance completely from memory, and that was his normal way of doing things. A genius. He was truly a genius of hard work. It was Karajan who brought his Berlin Philharmonic Orchestra into the orchestra pit for the first time in the orchestra's history. I experienced their performances in Japan tour in 1979, 1981, 1984, and 1988. It was as if he was surrounded by a halo. Your presence will never fade. Rest in peace.🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹

[@fredvacher3998]

It is extremely interesting to see his gestures and because I am a singer, I can tell how much he respects the breathing and expression of the stage performers. It must have been quite "comfortable" for the opera singers to sing under his baton. Also his gestures induce a very melodious flow, and careful to pinpoint the dramatic pivots. Puccini would have been nonplussed probably. It s an amazing performance. I am discovering Dame Barstow in Tosca and she is absolutely stunning.

[@atsumoritokyo1101]

Very thanks!❤I’m understanding your comment for me. It can be said with confidence that Karajan's conducting technique is the pinnacle of conducting art, walking the true path of inaction and nature. The breath of the singers and the orchestra, the presence of meaning in the momentary segments. If anyone else tries to imitate it, they will soon find their own flaws.

[@musettina6adina224]

Karajan had his singers rehearse without orchestra until the pre dress rehearsal . He used soundtrack cassettes of other singers that the performers had to sing to .

[@adrianleverkuehn9832]

No - the Sabine Meyer incident was over by the end of 1982.

[@PHILDEPRYCK]

Dear Michael Callaghan, I discover this recording today, thanks a lot for release this one, and unfortunately, the last one of Karajan Salzbourg festival. Regards, PHILIPPE BELGIUM.

[@DrGeoffLindsey]

Thank you so much

[@jameslamendola7843]

Wow ! Thank you.

[@TenorDmitry]

"From inside"! Thanks for uploading!

[@IrishVader]

Ive added a disclaimer to the description that stipulates this has been shared for educational purposes. Any dispute from parties that require credit to this material can be added or request it be removed. Note: This does not apply to anyone who is wanting to take a moral high ground on whether this should be made available or not. The performance went ahead for the public of the time, it was by my account and most of the other people commenting a successful performance, so I see no reason from that perspective to take this down.

[@xxxxxx-gw7lh]

@IrishVader Dear "orphan" of Maestro von Karajan... There is no "disclaimer" that holds up and is admissible. What "educational purposes"? To show a suffering man? The public at the time could not even see von Karajan as he is shown in the service video. Not even the orchestra, because the instrumentalists don't look at the conductor for over two hours. This video is an abuse of whoever first published it on the Web. Whoever republishes it has equal moral and ethical responsibility.

[@IrishVader]

@@xxxxxx-gw7lh Haha, you sound like Karajan's head of copyright, with the number of comments you've posted here. I wouldn't say you have convinced me to take this down, for the reason of the musicians never looking at Karajan especially. Move along, and allow others to enjoy this precious record of a very good performance

[@ericleung4313]

@@xxxxxx-gw7lh All you can see is a sick man, what i see is the most precious document about Karajan. As far as I know, this is the only video which recorded completely how Karajan conducts an opera.

[@lucianopavarotti2843]

@@IrishVader Karajan would have loved this video of himself for 2.5 hours :-)

[@elisasartori6581]

Questo video è in importante documento non solo didattico, ma anche didattico. Nessun pietismo . Come amare l'arte completa anche nella sofferenza fisica, arte è vita. C'è energia

[@luiseduardosanmodesto7538]

Gracias.

[@Tenortalker]

Absolutely fascinating to watch von Karajan. I am not sure how often Josephine Barstow sang with Pavarotti. ( She has just celebrated her 84th birthday by the way.) It would have been good to have a second recording which shows the stage view. It was a wonderful cast ... Fondary and Piero De Palma the king of the comprimari.

[@maestroclassico5801]

And the King of Comprimario! Piero di Palma! The man was on 130 Opera recordings! And I hope I didn't jinx him but as of this post.....October 2024, Alain Fondary is still with us at 91.

[@anoxfordman]

THANKS!

[@EdoFrenkel]

Holy shit, how did you find this ?? What a treasure to witness.

[@larsschabel7637]

Karajan suffers obviously from intensive back pain an has got steroids froms his docs. Impressive performace - thanks a lot for uoloading!

[@dashunin]

No words... Fantastic 👍

[@mbgvoice]

Just thanks with all my heart ❤

[@guidoboselli1171]

Un Miracolo

[@davidpetter6756]

Wonderful K. The post murder orchestral passage is dramatically so effective. Recently I've had an ear worm, a short cadential figure from Tosca

[@Dizzyfingers2]

Considering this man died in July 1989 - he conducted right up until the very end - even with heart and back troubles.

[@atsmusic3950]

Incredible

[@meisterwue]

Thanks for sharing ❤❤❤

[@末永裕一]

Bravissimo❣️

[@pawelpap9]

This is an interesting take on opera experience. Normally we see singers, chorus, and staging. Conductor and orchestra or invisible from most sits as they are hidden in the pit. Here we exclusively get to see the conductor. As the music is barely audible so it all adds to a fascinating and novel experience.

[@БорисШалагінов]

Да, это богатейший материал для комментариев специалистов. Но где же они? Я заметил, что Караян фактически не даёт певцам никаих отмашек. Как это объяснить?

[@iwasglad122]

As a fledgling conductor (retired now!) I was taught that even if you never use a baton conducting choirs and/or orchestras, one should ALWAYS use a stick if conducting in the pit - because it's very often the only thing your players can see!! HVK's hands and stick are beautifully illuminated!!

[@pedrov8868]

@@iwasglad122i can see that for choirs but for orders most use baton. Just hands is rare for symphony orchestra although there are exceptions (eg gergiev)

[@kanishknishar]

​@@pedrov8868I cannot comment for Operas as I dislike vocal singing but as an orchestra guy I can tell you using hands only is definitely not rare or restricted to Gergiev... The toothpick is though lol

[@germangonzalez9950]

❤ Qué maravilla!

[@TheWolfD]

Also exist video in color of the 1988 dress rehearsal (with Fiamma Izzo d'Amico, Luis Lima and Franz Grundheber). The sets by Günther Schneider-Siemssen are amaizing: An opulent production. Also exist fragments of Parsifal (1980, black and white) and the complete Carmen (1986) also from the pit like this Tosca.

[@IrishVader]

@@TheWolfD I have seen the Parsifal but not the Carmen, please share the details if it is available on KZbin or elsewhere

[@kchichon]

Hello. Could you kindly advise where it is possible to view the Carmen 1986 footage of Karajan? Thank you very much.

[@TheWolfD]

@@kchichonsearching in Österreichische Mediathek. There is the footage and the complete dress rehearsal with Schneider-Siemssen sets.

[@kchichon]

@@TheWolfD thank you very much! I am guessing you have not seen it, since you have to go in person to view such documents?

[@musettina6adina224]

@The Wolf I suppose you refer to Tosca with Izzo Grundheber and Lima . Since that was the original production of Tosca for the Östern Festspiele 1988 . Is that on KZbin ? I roles at that production and would love to see it . The Orchestra celebrated Maestro s Birthday at the end of the dress rehearsal.

[@yaelpalombo4093]

Stupendo!

[@こういち-y1x]

（1:19:32)Vissi d'arte （1:46:35)E lucevan le stelle

[@seijimakkino]

この公演たぶん現地で聴いてます。ベルリン・フィルの音が大きくて歌手が負けてしまう事がありました。完全にカラヤンワールドでした。 歌い手にカラヤンとベルリン・フィルが伴奏を付けてあげてる感じです。 この映像は舞台サイドにあるモニターに映し出されてるものです。舞台袖で合唱が歌う時とかバンダが演奏する場面に必要となります。祝祭劇場側が録画してたのがでてきたのかな？

[@Robert...Schrey]

baton up 1:41 baton down 48:01 baton up 50:32 baton down 1:34:21 baton up 1:36:54 baton down & shake hands 2:05:07

[@ricardocoimbra9259]

1:19:34 - Vissi d'arte 1:46:33 - E lucevan le stelle

[@ludwigna78]

Save this video before it gets removed!

[@papagen00]

already downloaded and saved.

[@Jerkyhammerstopwatch]

Ja, till the very end!

[@IvarsBezdechi]

Such clear orchestra conducting! Bernstein would have been flying getting ready to take off from the podium at the end of the opera.

[@musettina6adina224]

What’ s the point of comparing two huge maestri ? Each had their own style, approach and elegance . Only wish we had them both still ..

[@naogotoh912]

Unbelievable!!!

[@JustinBrasfield-dk8kt]

This man knew how to conduct an opera. Probably....allowing the singers to sing is a good idea which he seemed to do. Some conductors seems to treat singers as employees. I believe von Karajan treated them as partners and co-creators of art. Also....if you had never heard of Pavarotti, and you just heard this recording, you'd say this was one of the greatest tenors in the world.

[@musettina6adina224]

Well, singers were so in awe of Maestro Karajan, no one dared to question what he wanted from them . Those who had , were no longer asked in Salzburg . Not sure it can be defined as being equals, but all the recognized his supreme talent . I worked on his last two productions, it struck me that even the bigger names accepted that.

[@JustinBrasfield-dk8kt]

@@musettina6adina224 Forgive me, because I typed my original comment based on my observations from limited viewings of operas he conducted as well as reading some of Luciano Pavarotti's thoughts about him. Ignorance sometimes is bliss, right?

[@musettina6adina224]

@JustinBrasfield-dk8kt No worries . Ignorance allows one to learn - its work in progress , which is very positive Hope it encourages you to view more operas , more from HvK and more with Pavarotti . Both are icons, sadly lost - but we can still enjoy their legacy thanks to videos like this one.

[@miisan0409]

C‘est manifique!

[@Dylonely_9274]

Nice.

[@maestroclassico5801]

Wow 4 months before his death.....I notice he doesn't look down at the score much if at all. Karajan Tosca with Pavarotti! If he only couldve had him on his studio recordings.

[@jacobtapianieto9655]

He's conducting entirely by heart (from memory).

[@mediolanumhibernicus3353]

@@maestroclassico5801 There is no score to look down at. It's all in his head.

[@maestroclassico5801]

@@mediolanumhibernicus3353 I wonder how many times he conducted it in his life?

[@kenhunt278]

More than necessary. Puccini not his thing (though there were some good Bohemes back in the day).

[@mediolanumhibernicus3353]

@@kenhunt278 Rubbish

[@brunofrediani9323]

Splendido ed emozionante documento degli ultimi respiri artistici del più grande direttore di tutti i tempi, di un fenomeno musicale che ha segnato per sempre la storia della musica al pari dei più grandi compositori...inimitato ed inimitabile

[@JeanPaul-Hol65]

Non sono affatto d’accordo che sia rimasto inimitato. Tutt’altro: fu imitatissimo, sia da giovani che da maturi direttori d’orchestra di tutto il mondo. Però ha ragione quando lo definisce inimitabile: concezione e stile direttoriali erano troppo personali per essere condivisi e trasmessi ad altri. HvK è stato unico.

[@LeonardoMazzucato]

@@JeanPaul-Hol65 Perché fare classifiche ed elargire gratuitamente superlativi ! Cosa vuol dire “il più grande direttore di tutti i tempi “? Il maestro Karajan si definiva , e lo era , un kappelmaister , parola che esprime un mestiere , un’arte che si esprime con il lavoro e lo studio quotidiano . dire che un musicista è il più grande e’fargli un torto ed essere miopi. W la musica , w lo spettacolo , w l’arte , w i grandi maestri (e ce ne sono stati tanti …). LM

[@brunofrediani9323]

Ovviamente rimango della mia idea..tutti lavorano sui cantanti e sul suono, anche se ora si lavora molto meno nella preparazione delle opere, ma poi bisogna vedere quali sono i frutti di quel lavoro...tanti direttori amo: Bernstein, Walter, Kleiber...ma l influenza che ha avuto lui con le sue vette interpretative è immensa

[@柳瀬春彦]

これは記録映像か何かでしょうか？貴重映像に驚いています。

[@siegfriedenea]

1:12:03 … and “L’alba vindice appare” where is gone? Whatever the best Scarpia’s murder and final as On act ever!

[@neo5982]

暗譜だ

[@RobertoPasquini-dt6nw]

1:44:14 cello quartet

[@atsumoritokyo1101]

To think he passed away just four months after this performance... May he rest in peace.

[@jetuber]

Pity that this production wasn't filmed for Telemondial. I would have rather had it than the Rosenkavalier.

[@TheWolfD]

Exist the dress rehearsal from 1988 in color.

[@TheWolfD]

@@musettina6adina224 serch in operaonvideo

[@TheWolfD]

@@musettina6adina224 searching on google operaonvideo

[@Yves_Ka]

1:49:31 Karajan obviously objects to the loud bravos and turns around and his facial expression is a clear signal to the audience to shut up! 😀😀

[@antoninopirrone2541]

❤❤❤

[@ギターナオ]

これは貴重

[@edoardojanniello4863]

Immenso, divino, inarrivabile il gesto... non doveva lasciarci! Senza di Lui Euterpe dispera!

[@r.i.p.volodya]

This is exceptionally rare footage, is it not...?

[@AaronTarkovskyian-nx2ks]

How did you find this ????!????

[@michaelpapadopoulos5450]

😮😮😮❤❤❤

[@solcarzemog5232]

There is no Tosca beguining like that of James Levine, it's unsurmontable.

[@YM-xp2os]

March 18？ or 24？ 音源は両日とも残っているらしい。

[@musettina6adina224]

March 18, 1989 .

[@meisterwue]

He died in July same year

[@Nicos-t2p]

Karajan Died 16 July 1989 4 months later

[@charlescoleman5509]

Funny how the audience enthusiastically applauded for Pavarotti’s two big arias, but von Karajan would have none of it and continued conducting without pause.

[@Robert...Schrey]

43:50 the tedeum.

[@TheLastOfTheFinest80]

It looked like Karajan was leaning on a prop behind him during this performance.

[@IrishVader]

This was how he conducted for the last 4/5 years, it was like a bicycle seat where he could discretely sit for the performance

[@БорисШалагінов]

Да, запись уникальна! Существуют исследования о технике конкретных дирижёров. Хотелось бы, чтобы в обсуждение это ролика тоже включились специалисты. Я, например, заметил, что Караян фактически не даёт певцам никаих отмашек. И как бы даёт спектаклю идти своим чередом. Очевидно, я неправ. Но как тогда объяснить его некоторое невнимание именно к певцам?

[@wordsworks7084]

Ich habe in mehreren Produktionen unter ihm im Chor gesungen und ihn beobachtet, wie er Sänger begleitet hat. Da war von Unaufmerksamkeit nichts zu bemerken. Auch hier nicht. Er beobachtet sie ständig, spricht manchmal den Text mit, dämpft, wenn nötig, das Orchester. Allerdings, und das ist vielleicht der Grund Ihrer Bemerkung, gibt er den Sängern nicht das Tempo vor. Er engt sie nicht ein. Selten, dass er das Tempo anzieht. Ich habe gestern das Video einem Wiener Philharmoniker gezeigt, er sagte: " Das kann heute keiner mehr."

[@БорисШалагінов]

@@wordsworks7084 Danke für Ihren Brief!

[@fredvacher3998]

That s exactly it. As a singer, I think he s just perfect!

[@musettina6adina224]

@wordsworks7084 Waren Sie auch beim den 1989 Ballo? Ich war Regie Assistentin dabei -

[@ПавелМартыненко-т3ш]

Поведуйте об великом дирижере поподробнее. Каково было работать с Караяном, что он делал на репетиция, о чём говорил, какого мировоззрение, его техника и приёмы. Рассказывал ли что то о себе. Расскажите пожалуйста!

[@paules3437]

What happened at 1:12:02? Right after Pavarotti sang "Vittoria!' for the second time, it seems he lost his place and didn't sing the next line? Or maybe it was the sound? Curious. Check it out. Also, the lighting in the pit of von Karajan makes his face look misshapen!

[@mediolanumhibernicus3353]

You are absolutely right. Pavarotti doesn’t sing the four bars after a wonderfully sung ‘Vittoria!’. When he does come in on the fifth bar, he rushes ahead of the orchestra. Karajan’s calm and control here is awesome. Most other conductors here would have panicked. Karajan remains completely impassive. Already shortly before, at ‘m’hai tradita, maledetta!’, Karajan comes off the notes and is dodgy rhythmically. The truth is that,- for all his magisterial beauty of sound and unmatchable text projection, Pavarotti was what they refer to as a ‘mine vagrante’, - a ‘floating mine (as in landmine’). The Italians use this term to describe a musically unpredictable singer that could ‘go off’, or ‘explode’ at any moment. This is in no way meant to distract from Pavarotti’s awesome talents. Few could deal with this issue as effectively as Karajan, and it shows how much he valued this tenor that he was prepared to deal with this defect, which with any other singer he simply would not have accepted.

[@mediolanumhibernicus3353]

Forgive the error. Obviously I meant ‘PAVAROTTI comes off the notes’, - not Karajan.

[@paules3437]

@@mediolanumhibernicus3353 Interesting. I did not know that "mine" expression. I do consider Pav the greatest singer of the 20th century, altho just two days ago a friend said he didn't care for Pav, preferring Domingo (the old debate... I myself used to cringe when Domingo had a high note coming up). I wonder what happened to Pav when he lost his way there...

[@MrThepresident2009]

No, Pavarotti turned down the notes, singing "l'alba vindice appar" with low tone, so he could improve his breath to sing with full voice the remaining lines... Pavarotti had this behavior often in "Tosca"... If you watch other Big Luciano's plays in "Tosca", you'll see this particular thing I told you

[@amedeofolco9988]

Pazzesco sto documento. Chi era il resto del cast??

[@IrishVader]

I've added the details to the description

[@cantoriabosana_98]

1:19:34 “Vissi d’arte” ♥️