Should you build a 5e3 Tweed Deluxe? Pros and Cons 6 Months later

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Michael W. Westbrook

Michael W. Westbrook

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@MichaelWWestbrook
@MichaelWWestbrook 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! Here’s the original tweed build video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iqTTmXmIqaxkaZo
@tommytomcat1a
@tommytomcat1a 3 жыл бұрын
I used to put tweed kits together and convert pcb amps to vintage specs for myself and guitar buddies before retiring and moving to MX. My recipe for a perfect 5e3 if you're going to gig with it: 1. use a deluxe reverb output transformer. Those extra 10-15 watts firms and cleans up the bass a lot. Most kits come with a Deluxe Reverb PT, so why not take advantage of what it is? 2. change the PI coupling caps to .047uF's. 3. Change the V1 bright channel coupling cap to a .022uF. I like to use Sozo's or the Mojotone Dijon film foils. To my ears, once the amp breaks in there is a little more 3D detail when using film foils. 4. Either pull the 25uF bypass cap on the PI booster V2A or use a 220K resistor between the volume pot and the grid of V2A. 5. I never use carbon comp resisters on the input jacks. (the 1M and 68K's). Preferably quality metal or carbon films. If lead dress is good, they will reduce background hiss. 6. Speaker choice is very important. Since the circuit is so bassy, I never use a speaker with anything bigger than a 1.25 voice coil. 7. A solid pine cabinet with birch baffle is a must. It is part of the speaker. 8. Lastly, the 250ohm cathode/bias resistor on the power tube cathodes is usually way too hot. It may take a 330, 370 or even a 470ohm with todays wall voltages to get you in the sweet spot. i.e. correctly bias the amp. Why all this you ask? The amp was designed around the Fender pickups of the 50's. All usually under 5K DC resistance/fairly weak and bright sounding. Fender amps with their 25uF bassy bypass caps really boost the bass for a more full sound, which can be too much with todays higher wall voltages. These mods tighten everything up at higher volumes while still leaving you with what is great about the E series circuits.
@georgefromgreece4119
@georgefromgreece4119 3 жыл бұрын
Ok this comment is priceless.
@georgefromgreece4119
@georgefromgreece4119 3 жыл бұрын
Speaker wise, is no more than 1.25 vc correct? Even for 12 inch speakers ( uncommon) or were you referring to 10s?
@russellesimonetta3835
@russellesimonetta3835 3 жыл бұрын
The same can be done with a princeton reverb!!!!! But with a cz34, up the can to 40.20,20,20 ,and that will get you the great princeton sound but with some balls! Then modify to the AA764 circuit. I think that is just changing the value of two coupling caps.
@hhattingh
@hhattingh 3 жыл бұрын
Ok...this is just gold! Wow thanks!
@mefirst4266
@mefirst4266 2 жыл бұрын
WHO ASK FOR YOUR OPION ????????? GET YOUR OWN CHANNEL AND IF I NEED YOU I WILL CALL !!!!!
@eggmarket
@eggmarket 3 жыл бұрын
I'll share a great tip with you that my amp tech taught me concerning the headroom in a 5E3 Deluxe: In the preamp, change your 12AY7 to an AU7. This reduces distortion in the first amplification stage significantly, essentially pushing the headroom up while only marginally reducing volume. Change the 12AX7 to a 5751; the SRV tube. Same tube as an AX7 but with a gain of 70, as opposed to 100, which dramatically reduces idle noise and wards off early preamp distortion. Again, more clean headroom for a nearly imperceivable change in volume. That simple tube swap gave me the ability to use my Deluxe for anything from trad jazz gigs to blues-rock jams with an excited drummer.
@MichaelWWestbrook
@MichaelWWestbrook 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, swapping out preamp tubes is a great way to change the response and gain!
@mattflickinger8151
@mattflickinger8151 3 жыл бұрын
I run a NOS 5751 V1 in every amp i own. Huge improvement in my ears, my “secret”
@monto39
@monto39 2 жыл бұрын
I do a lot of what you described to make it more harmonica friendly (i.e. less prone to feedback that makes people cringe)
@Jakal-pw8yq
@Jakal-pw8yq 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the information! I knew about the 5751 but did not know about the 12AU7 thing.
@amritjanardhanan
@amritjanardhanan 3 жыл бұрын
If you ever have issues with blocking distortion, you should replace the 12AX7 in V2 with a 12DW7, which is half a 12AX7 and half a 12AU7. The 12AU7 triode should serve as the phase inverter. It’ll accept a lot more voltage but since that stage doesn’t actually have any voltage gain you won’t notice a volume drop
@jimcatanzaro7808
@jimcatanzaro7808 Жыл бұрын
The 12at7 is a good tube as well and I only use 1 input and I use a 33k with the 1 Meg pot and breaks up about 3/4 7/8
@treddingjr
@treddingjr 3 жыл бұрын
I built the Mojotone Tweed Deluxe. Swapped the kit speaker for a Celestion Alnico Blue. I couldn’t be happier. With the channels bridged I the tone I’ve sought for years. Just my $0.02.
@MichaelWWestbrook
@MichaelWWestbrook 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! I’ve heard from a lot of people a Blue is great in a 5e3.
@treddingjr
@treddingjr 3 жыл бұрын
Fender put that speaker in their Edge (U2) Tweed Deluxe. I recommend it highly.
@BladeDoomer86
@BladeDoomer86 3 жыл бұрын
I think your amp is absolutely amazing, and the feeling of having done it yourself must be unreal.
@MichaelWWestbrook
@MichaelWWestbrook 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Yeah, I love being able to play something I built.
@soapboxearth2
@soapboxearth2 2 жыл бұрын
I just finished my first build. A 5e3 kit from a Chinese eBay seller. Upgraded to f&t and mallory 150s. Alpha pots and belton sockets. I just love it. Runs dead quiet which suprised me. Ive got the bug ! Many thanks to lowheadroom youtube channel for a great tutorial. Next up is a deville 4x10 gutting and 5f6a scratch build with a plexi style channel. I never realized how great the 5e3 was until I chose it based solely on its inexpensive cost. Your video helped me decide to go for it
@eduardoprieto5267
@eduardoprieto5267 2 жыл бұрын
The clean even though not loud is beautiful. Thanks.
@etudenc
@etudenc 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making the video, liked your analysis and certainly your playing!
@db9091
@db9091 2 жыл бұрын
Did a FranklynAmps 5E3 and its been superb. Versatile, takes pedals well, every guitar sounds great through it, & I get compliments all the time.
@MichaelWWestbrook
@MichaelWWestbrook 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, love the 5e3. Such a simple yet versatile amp!
@db9091
@db9091 2 жыл бұрын
@@MichaelWWestbrook I ordered the British 45 from Mojotone. Should come (kit) mid February. After that maybe an AC kit in the fall or 2023. I have and live a Kemper but sometimes the amp itself is easier to bring to a friends or the simplicity of an amp vs digital device inspires music making.
@groovee63
@groovee63 3 жыл бұрын
I built two 5E3 amps and one 5E5-A amp within 3 months...Became addictive very quick...I did the mojotone kits....Their pretty much the same stuff..awesome video!!! Good stuff
@MichaelWWestbrook
@MichaelWWestbrook 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Yeah, I’m already planning my next build.
@dcbluez4883
@dcbluez4883 Жыл бұрын
My first build was a Tweed Deluxe. Love them. I also built 6v6 Plexis, 2204 Marshall and some others but I really gravitated back to the 5E3. Played many small pubs with the 5E3. I also modded one with 2 tone knobs, 2 volume knobs so I could voice them differently and separate the input signal and blend them together. V1 pin 8 Marshall values 2.7K/.68uf. This actually gave the amp more headroom. I also reduced the coupling cap values down to 22nF instead of 100nF. Takes pedals very well. Depending on the power tranny capability you can use 6L6 power tubes, just dont bias them hot. This gives plenty of headroom.
@glebschnick
@glebschnick 3 жыл бұрын
Volume knob, not on the amp but on the guitar. If you don't use that you are missing out a TON on what the amp can do. With Humbuckers use input to to get more useful sounds from the amp. One of the best clean with "hair" sounds comes from the amp on 5 and the guitar also on say 5. Try it. Great sounds and not crushing volume. Remember use the guitar volume.
@MichaelWWestbrook
@MichaelWWestbrook 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely! I don’t make use of it as much as I should to be honest
@bluesfool1
@bluesfool1 2 жыл бұрын
I’m going to be getting my tweed kit from StewMac tomorrow!! So excited. That guitar bit in the beginning of your video is awesome!! I hope to be able to play like that someday
@odgeUK
@odgeUK 3 жыл бұрын
That sounds incredible. Really balanced tone compared to other 5E3 demos I've listened to. I guess a lot of that is the mods you did.
@MichaelWWestbrook
@MichaelWWestbrook 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I think the tone is there it’s just all about how to use it and record it. I’ve heard a lot of poorly recorded tweed demos.
@doftya
@doftya 3 жыл бұрын
I built a Trinity Tweed as well, but I added the VRM that they offer, and paired it with a Tone Tubby 12" alnico. Love being able to turn the power down and not get muddy, and the Tone Tubby sounds awesome. The great thing about the VRM is that it scales the power after the transformer so the heaters are still running at full voltage and temp.
@MichaelWWestbrook
@MichaelWWestbrook 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I have the VRM but haven’t installed it. I honestly don’t need it. I might feel different once I start gigging more and I want to get more of that great overdrive.
@OldassBoomer
@OldassBoomer 2 жыл бұрын
I built a Mission 5e3 and it was a great experience.
@williamwinn948
@williamwinn948 Жыл бұрын
building stuff and learning is always fun, regardless
@cmeuret
@cmeuret 3 жыл бұрын
You explained the 5E3 perfectly. Nice job. I would only add that most music venues and bars have a PA for vocals. Drape a microphone in front of that thing and you’re golden.
@chrisday5341
@chrisday5341 Жыл бұрын
I’m going down the amp building rabbit hole and your videos on this topic have been great! This amp sounds absolutely sweet!
@richardjames6623
@richardjames6623 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, and thank you! 57 Deluxe Custom owner, Just subscribed. Wow that Gretsch tone is sick!
@MichaelWWestbrook
@MichaelWWestbrook 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@nelsonpaul72
@nelsonpaul72 2 жыл бұрын
Great video and helped me avoid a mistake with the kit I'm choosing based on what I need. Thanks!
@juliochingaling5824
@juliochingaling5824 Жыл бұрын
Thank you brother, great video. God bless.
@michael9202
@michael9202 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds so good
@rix7427
@rix7427 3 жыл бұрын
Man, you are so creative with your riffs, can you make a video explaining your influences and how you construct them? love your work
@MichaelWWestbrook
@MichaelWWestbrook 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the kind words. I’ve thought about doing a video like that so this is just pushing me over the edge!
@rix7427
@rix7427 3 жыл бұрын
@@MichaelWWestbrook Nice jajaja
@michasz4297
@michasz4297 3 жыл бұрын
@@MichaelWWestbrook 3:47 - 4:06 is really nice. Would like to know which scales and chords you used so I could try to play it. I have a homebuilt 5e3 too, haha.
@zazoomatt
@zazoomatt 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Michael Westbrook your words and experience go far with my tones as I LOVED your intro blues w/drums and bass sounds I LOVED!
@MichaelWWestbrook
@MichaelWWestbrook 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching!
@nisarad2793
@nisarad2793 3 жыл бұрын
That was a very thoughtful and comprehensive review, so thanks.
@MichaelWWestbrook
@MichaelWWestbrook 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it
@samnewton5959
@samnewton5959 3 жыл бұрын
I find you can get more headroom for the clean stuff by just backing down your guitar volume on these amps. Also, I find lower-powered pickups help as well on this particular amp. I do not find getting enough headroom to be a problem when in a live band situation. Of course, if you are in a loud situation, say with horns, then you will need to be miked.
@Dizzydre21
@Dizzydre21 7 ай бұрын
That speaker sounds great. You can put a switch or potentiometer in to add additional negative feedback, which in turn will get more headroom. I've done it to my 5f1 and 5e3.
@dumaflotchy13
@dumaflotchy13 3 жыл бұрын
Outstanding tones/demo !!!
@AZCobraman
@AZCobraman Жыл бұрын
Great steel work!
@bishlap
@bishlap 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Mike, we need a channel like yours. subscribed!!!
@MichaelWWestbrook
@MichaelWWestbrook 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@TheDilligan
@TheDilligan 2 жыл бұрын
I got a Fender 57 custom Tweed Champ. Even at 5 watts, I can play it with a drummer for practice. Idk if it's enough for an audience to hear without Miking it. But Like you say, it's not even remotely clean when you get up to those levels. The Champ has excellent clean tones, but those clean tones can only be achieved at bedroom-practice volumes. And yet, if you want tweed distortion, it's still too loud to crank it up to those levels in an apartment. But I do plan on getting a load box so that it can be sent to a separate power amp and so that I can get the tone I want at the volume I want.
@garygratzer9670
@garygratzer9670 3 жыл бұрын
I’m running mine in the bright/hi input, normal volume on 11 and bright volume on 8 or 9. Try it! Amazing cleans.
@MichaelWWestbrook
@MichaelWWestbrook 3 жыл бұрын
Yep! The cleaner clips in this video are with similar settings
@garygratzer9670
@garygratzer9670 3 жыл бұрын
I also have the 3way NFB switch in the middle eliminating the bypass cap and the post PI volume dialed back just a touch. I find the NFB setting a little to tame/dry.
@MichaelWWestbrook
@MichaelWWestbrook 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I generally prefer the middle position. The NFB loses a bit of the magic sparkle
@pipotherium
@pipotherium 3 жыл бұрын
The intro you played is great
@MichaelWWestbrook
@MichaelWWestbrook 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@kbrinson85
@kbrinson85 3 жыл бұрын
Great playing/material as always Michael! I’m still rockin’ your Tweed patches in HX Stomp (great!) regularly but I’m still tempted to build one of these!
@MichaelWWestbrook
@MichaelWWestbrook 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! It’s a good time for sure
@eoinclune1369
@eoinclune1369 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing Overdrive! Really nice sound!
@MichaelWWestbrook
@MichaelWWestbrook 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@geraldponce8336
@geraldponce8336 2 жыл бұрын
Great vintage sound.
@homeguitarplayer9482
@homeguitarplayer9482 3 жыл бұрын
That's a very informative and well presented description of this tweed deluxe kit. Thanks for the good content
@MichaelWWestbrook
@MichaelWWestbrook 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words!
@druwk
@druwk 3 жыл бұрын
Your posts have been very helpful about the 5e3. I bought a Clone off of Reverb, and I really like a lot of the aspects of this amp. I really like the natural compression of the ‘cleans’, and the breakup. I live in an apartment building, and installed a Dr.Z attenuator. I still have to watch my volume. Haven’t played it with a drummer yet? Glad you addressed the speaker question. I bought it loaded with a Celestion Blue which isn’t doing it for me? Researched to Alnico options, and I think a Ceramic is the way to go for me as well. Waiting for a Jupiter 12LC (Ceramic American Style) to arrive...I think it will be a better fit? The 5e3 does have some weaknesses, and you can see why Mike Campbell used a Tweed Deluxe, and a Blackface Princeton together.
@MichaelWWestbrook
@MichaelWWestbrook 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Glad they have been helpful. I’ve heard great things about the Jupiter stuff but haven’t tried it yet.
@papawx3
@papawx3 3 ай бұрын
The tweed amps aren't meant to have allot of headroom. They breakup and get dirty fairly quickly, and even when they are "clean", they have that smoky tone thing going. I love the tweed circuits, they will take SOME pedals, but you have to be selective with which pedals you use. Keep your ODs simple and transparent like a Nobles or a Wampler Tumnus. Mine likes the Maxon OSD-9. I have never found a fuzz pedal that my amp likes, and I have tried PLENTY. If you want a more pedal friendly amp, get a Silverface Fender whatever or a Peavey {preferably one of the hybrid circuit amps}. Old Music Man amps excel here too. Even an older Carvin is a good pedal platform for not allot of money at all. The 5e3 sounds best when played loud without too many pedals. I love mine, especially when I play my Tele through it.
@Incountry
@Incountry 3 жыл бұрын
The Weber was a very good choice, I think it was one of the better ones I chose on the builds...
@MichaelWWestbrook
@MichaelWWestbrook 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it’s a great speaker for sure. Recently put it in my Deluxe Reverb to give it a try
@philipbrister
@philipbrister Жыл бұрын
I have a clone 5e3 that I use at the house. I tend to put the tone and volume close to max and then use the hell out of my guitars tone and volume. I use a Weber Alnico speaker in mine.
@Rich-NH
@Rich-NH 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds devine
@kayasper6081
@kayasper6081 7 ай бұрын
These are some very sweet tones!
@charles-ul9uo
@charles-ul9uo 3 жыл бұрын
very good presentation michael.
@MichaelWWestbrook
@MichaelWWestbrook 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it
@renato_guitar2138
@renato_guitar2138 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful sounding amp! Great playing man 👍🏼
@MichaelWWestbrook
@MichaelWWestbrook 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@jeffkay2011
@jeffkay2011 3 жыл бұрын
Nice tones and playing.
@MichaelWWestbrook
@MichaelWWestbrook 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@mitchellrosen1890
@mitchellrosen1890 Жыл бұрын
Nicely done. Thank you.
@PeteBasel
@PeteBasel Жыл бұрын
Have you considered the Dumble Tweedle-Dee mod that's well documented over at Amp Garage? There are KZbin video demos of it in case you're interested.
@MichaelWWestbrook
@MichaelWWestbrook Жыл бұрын
I started to but I love the original tweed sound so much I didn’t want to lose that. I increased the first filter cap to a 30uf at one point but it made it a lot stiffer. I liked it but ended up with a 20uf in there as a compromise. I’ve also considered building another amp to the Tweedle-Dee specs
@olavisaksjoflot2932
@olavisaksjoflot2932 3 жыл бұрын
Such Sweet Tones!! ☺️🎸
@MichaelWWestbrook
@MichaelWWestbrook 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!!
@normc8169
@normc8169 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Michael for your great advices on the 5E3 circuit. After watching you building your amp I had the luck to buy a used Trinity 5e3 combo with a Weber 150 in it. I swaped the tubes and puted some jan nos tubes in it. And gosh it sound so great. Just one thing tho. I did not get into a rehearsal with the band cause covid. Can't wait
@scotthuntlivewithoutanet7692
@scotthuntlivewithoutanet7692 3 жыл бұрын
Great topic and review.
@MichaelWWestbrook
@MichaelWWestbrook 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Scott! Hope you are well!
@gben2457
@gben2457 11 ай бұрын
They have beautiful clean sounds at a lower volume.
@DogDaze66
@DogDaze66 Жыл бұрын
Perfect volume amp
@AlexAnnaZuniga
@AlexAnnaZuniga 3 ай бұрын
Hi there Michael. Great Vid. I am always looking for great Riffs to learn. You wouldn't happen have Tabbed Out what you did on this video from 5:41 to 5:55 or so (the end of the Overdrive segment)? I'll try to suss it out myself but I always get frustrated after some point and tend to give up after I reach some level of frustration. It's a great slower picking Riff that Teles and Tweeds were made for IMO! I'll stroll over to your site to buy some IR if there are any. If you don't have the Tab maybe it would be fun for you to Tab it out for kicks and exercise? Anyway great Job!!
@jameselliano1203
@jameselliano1203 5 ай бұрын
Well buy a Louis Electric Deltone. Great Tweed tone on left side with reverb and tremelo and right channel ... black face....You'll be in love.
@dagus834
@dagus834 3 жыл бұрын
I'm torn between going the 5e3 or Ac15 route. The thing that's keeping me from going 5e3 is knowing that breakup occurs at 3 on the volume knob.
@MichaelWWestbrook
@MichaelWWestbrook 3 жыл бұрын
You can’t go wrong with either one but there are a lot of resources online for 5e3 which might make it easier if it’s a first time amp build for you. I’m sure an AC15 would be killer though!
@dagus834
@dagus834 3 жыл бұрын
​@@MichaelWWestbrook I think I'm going to need both.
@nikolaisoerensen
@nikolaisoerensen 3 жыл бұрын
What about a ac10? Is that too exotic to build as a beginner?
@johnmundt7834
@johnmundt7834 2 жыл бұрын
I could see that duo jet being a great pairing w this deluxe
@davidcudlip6587
@davidcudlip6587 3 жыл бұрын
Solution to keeping clean headroom playing with a loud drummer. Smash each index finger with a hammer. If still to loud on the skins, smash his thumbs. No need to make a speaker change or other mods on your amp.
@haloskater24
@haloskater24 3 жыл бұрын
I have a 2x10 5e3 with Jensen’s from 57, I think p10R’s. I would say that this amp is great for roots music but not for modern stuff.
@MichaelWWestbrook
@MichaelWWestbrook 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, for sure. It has surprised me though. Check out the demo on the "Mod" video I did. It has some more modern-esque rock tones in it
@kindnick58
@kindnick58 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds great
@MichaelWWestbrook
@MichaelWWestbrook 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@kindnick58
@kindnick58 3 жыл бұрын
@@MichaelWWestbrook Now I want one
@MichaelWWestbrook
@MichaelWWestbrook 3 жыл бұрын
Do it!!
@FreddieBaker87
@FreddieBaker87 6 ай бұрын
@MichaelWWestbrook Have you experimented with running this amp with another? Splitting signal between a higher head room amp and the 5e3 Tweed? I built a Stewmac 5e3. It was a blast. I am experimenting with the 5e3 and a HOT Rod Deluxe using the "TPS Wet/Dry" sort of approach. It's been fun to try and figure out what drive pedals sound good to the 5e3 in tandem with the Hot Rod. At stage volume, I am finding that I can run guitar straight to 5e3, while all my other gain/modulation/delays run to the Hot Rod. The 5e3 is such a unique thing, and it's been a fun challenge trying to find ways to pair it with other amps/pedals in a way that only highlights its strengths. Curious if you have played with this as well.
@sirbaronvoncount4147
@sirbaronvoncount4147 3 жыл бұрын
Sheeeit man you can play. That amp sounds killer to me
@MichaelWWestbrook
@MichaelWWestbrook 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Yeah, it’s so good.
@Bob.Silverstein
@Bob.Silverstein 3 жыл бұрын
Another great video :) one thing I might add is that because there's no master volume, there's not really a true "quiet" mode. On mine, even when the volume just kicks in, it's kicking in kind of loud. So for home use, it might not fly for everyone. Even my 100W Twin Reverb is easier to play at bedroom levels :)
@MichaelWWestbrook
@MichaelWWestbrook 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Everyone’s bedroom amp level varies too. I do find an inefficient speaker really helps.
@Bob.Silverstein
@Bob.Silverstein 3 жыл бұрын
@@MichaelWWestbrook yeah, in my case, i can get away with playing loud, but need to wait for my wife to take a walk if i want to push it :) i've got the Weber 12A125A. i know what you mean about the compression, but i absolutely love that effect at lower/cleaner volumes. i've got a switchable mod that drops the V2A cathode capacitor down to 0.47µF (instead of 25µF!). that's useful for getting rid of some flab when desired.
@MichaelWWestbrook
@MichaelWWestbrook 3 жыл бұрын
Nice! Yeah, I love that Weber for sure. For certain things it’s the ticket
@pierheadjump
@pierheadjump 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mike. ⚓️
@SeemoreDunkan
@SeemoreDunkan 7 ай бұрын
Great video and thanks for doing this! Do you find the amp to sound similar enough to an original Fender? I always find even the more expensive clones to lack a certain character I only hear with original Fenders. I'd love to hear a comparison of your build to other stuff too :)
@MichaelWWestbrook
@MichaelWWestbrook 7 ай бұрын
Haven’t been able to compare directly but from memory the older ones always feel less efficient and softer. I’m not sure it’s quite possible to build a 70 amp new but I guess we can hope the new ones will age and softer over time
@cortmiller
@cortmiller 2 жыл бұрын
great video and great tones. i love that allesandro. It sounds good in just about any fender circuit there is. I have a real 59 5e3 (have a celestion G12H30 in it) as well as a 5e3 style amp with that eminence in it and just got a Mesa California Tweed which for what you were describing about with the band and clean tones, it seems to deliver all that and seems real versatile for a tweed type circuit. I have not been in love with the alnico it comes with though and have contemplated putting one of the SC64 in that as well. But I just got it so gonna spend some time getting to know the speaker a bit. Love the tweeds (a brown deluxe is a pretty sweet amp too if you want the missing link between a tweed and black face deluxe).
@SergioAureo
@SergioAureo 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, as always! Every time listen to you play your amp I feel amazed. You mentioned in the video that you like how the amp reacts to boosts. Which are your favorite pedals that you use to boost your 5E3? Cheers!
@MichaelWWestbrook
@MichaelWWestbrook 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Currently boost wise I end up using the RC Booster (clean boost with EQ), Klon clone set clean, or even different overdrives set clean. I also have a custom Greer germanium boost that gives me a very colored boost that’s really cool. I really dig the Special Request from Greer as well.
@SergioAureo
@SergioAureo 3 жыл бұрын
@@MichaelWWestbrook thanks!
@petedazer3381
@petedazer3381 3 жыл бұрын
The only bummer is the 5e3 sounds great after about 4 on the VC, but it’s too loud for just practice. I built one straight stock, and several modded varieties all with a master volume which helps.
@MichaelWWestbrook
@MichaelWWestbrook 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I get it. I find most amps except maybe a champ are too loud to crank for home practice. I might have to build a champ next 😂
@vdub1959
@vdub1959 3 жыл бұрын
@@MichaelWWestbrook I suggest an attenuator to reduce the volume? Weber MiniMAX for instance.
@nikolaisoerensen
@nikolaisoerensen 3 жыл бұрын
Great thanks!
@stevehughes1510
@stevehughes1510 3 жыл бұрын
I always stay with a 12AY7 in V1......an AU just drops the volume down too much. Thanks for the vid Michael!!
@MichaelWWestbrook
@MichaelWWestbrook 3 жыл бұрын
I haven’t tried an AU but loving the 12ay7
@stevehughes1510
@stevehughes1510 3 жыл бұрын
@@MichaelWWestbrook As you've most probably found an AX or 5751 adds too much gain to the signal.......AY is the answer......smooth as silk.............lol
@brisson182
@brisson182 Жыл бұрын
Sounds amazing! I’ve had a blackface deluxe reverb for a while and do like it but mostly the cleans I love the tweed breakup so much! Im debating on buying a fender tweed deluxe 57 but they are so expensive!! Would I better getting my local amp guy to build me a kit ? Would in be cheaper? And do you have any suggestions to good kits available? Thanks in advance!!
@JohannesLabusch
@JohannesLabusch 3 жыл бұрын
New subscriber. Do you have a video about that beautiful Gretsch? I'd be interested ...
@MichaelWWestbrook
@MichaelWWestbrook 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Check out my studio run down video. I talk a little about all my guitars in that one.
@MichaelWWestbrook
@MichaelWWestbrook 3 жыл бұрын
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@Vinylhead66BlogspotDe
@Vinylhead66BlogspotDe 3 жыл бұрын
If in your estimation, a drummer is too loud for this amp, how loud is the difference between the "clean" and "distorted" tone ? How Cropper played with Booker T and how neil young did play with Crazy horse? It was all about monitoring ? I dont get it.
@MichaelWWestbrook
@MichaelWWestbrook 3 жыл бұрын
I think there is plenty of volume to play with a drummer in general... but if you play with a loud drummer (or in loud scenarios) and want it be clean it may not be loud enough. Every situation is different, just my 2 cents based on my experiences
@regortex3364
@regortex3364 3 жыл бұрын
In the case of Neil Young, his live rig is one the loudest and most unique in the world. His Tweed deluxe is mic’d and sent to his own personal PA on stage (as well as FOH obviously), he’s the only guitarist I know of that has a personal PA on stage as his “amp”. His stage volume is supposedly incredibly loud and dynamic, in a good way.
@atlharp1
@atlharp1 Жыл бұрын
I would do a Tweed Twin build instead. 40w is better for headroom.
@danielcarter3928
@danielcarter3928 2 жыл бұрын
i’m looking for a tweed style amp for home use. i live in a small apartment with my girlfriend and a 3 year old half the time lol, so volume is a huge factor for me and i want something that sounds good at low volumes and is manageable on the dial. i’ve got an overdrive and a fuzz pedal that i use a fair amount, so i am not expecting to get too much overdrive from the amp unless i’m able to crank it. one of my favorite guitarists uses a tweed Deluxe 5e3, but i cannot decide between the Deluxe and a 5f1 style Champ. the Champ has lower wattage so it might be better for my needs, but the Deluxe has a 12 inch speaker which i’ve heard makes a big difference. if you were me what would you recommend ?!
@MichaelWWestbrook
@MichaelWWestbrook 2 жыл бұрын
Look for a Champ with a 12” speaker, might be the best of both worlds
@Tonetwisters
@Tonetwisters 3 жыл бұрын
I'd rather a tweed Tremolux big box, with as many original style parts as possible.
@aaronwatter
@aaronwatter Жыл бұрын
Mi Mike, is that a 'Dynamount' Filtertron in the Gretsch bridge? How do you like it?
@MichaelWWestbrook
@MichaelWWestbrook Жыл бұрын
It is! From TV Jones. It’s great! A good swap for me
@aaronwatter
@aaronwatter Жыл бұрын
Thanks! If you had another Gretsch with regular Filtertrons (whether stock or TV Jones) would love to see a comparison video. I'm curious if there are any discernable tonal differences. Love all your 5E3 videos too BTW!
@Respecttheriff
@Respecttheriff Жыл бұрын
What boosts and overdrives do you prefer with the 5e3? I'm looking some good options for mine. I assume something more neutral, less mid hump would be best. Been thinking about a Nobels ODR-1, and a Boss GE-7 to sculpt the sound
@MichaelWWestbrook
@MichaelWWestbrook Жыл бұрын
I tend to like boost or light overdrives with the 5e3. Can’t go wrong with either of those you mentioned. Also check out my video on the Tube and Transistor Swindle. I remember that one being magical with my Tele and the 5e3.
@Respecttheriff
@Respecttheriff Жыл бұрын
@@MichaelWWestbrook Thanks, I'll check that out!
@PeteBasel
@PeteBasel Жыл бұрын
Just wondering, do you find that you use this amp mostly at home and for recording and do you use something else when out at a gig with a loud drummer? Is there a particular go to for that situation?
@MichaelWWestbrook
@MichaelWWestbrook Жыл бұрын
I use it a ton at home to record (one of my go-to’s) but also use it live. It’s really a matter of how much head room I need for the gig. A lot of times I’ll use it stereo with my Deluxe reverb. It’s never not loud enough for me but sometimes it might not get as clean as I’d like at the volume I need. Hopefully that helps!
@barrywuthrich8530
@barrywuthrich8530 3 жыл бұрын
cool amp. Could you plug a mic in the low side and an acoustic electric in the hi side a do a small gig, or would the vocals distort?
@MichaelWWestbrook
@MichaelWWestbrook 3 жыл бұрын
My guess is it would distort pretty early!
@Germinalx
@Germinalx 3 жыл бұрын
Why didn’t you use the cab and Tone Tubby speaker offered in a complete kit? We’re your choices different or cheaper in some way? Thx.
@MichaelWWestbrook
@MichaelWWestbrook 3 жыл бұрын
I wanted to be able to have a head/cab rather than the combo. Speaker wise I really wanted to try the Weber which is similar to what a tweed would have used and it’s cheaper. I ended up with the Eminence GA-sc64 but both are great and combined ended up being the cost of the Tone Tubby.
@richard66754
@richard66754 2 жыл бұрын
Did you use audio it linear taper volume pots? Btw, subscription earned!
@MariJu1ce
@MariJu1ce 2 жыл бұрын
Im kinda torn between building one of theese or going with the reissue. the reissue is kinda expensive and i love the tones youre getting out of it here! I wonder if they sound similar or if its worth to pay the extra for the fender.
@MichaelWWestbrook
@MichaelWWestbrook 2 жыл бұрын
I think tones are going to be very similar but there are other things to consider. Resale is a big one. I think a Fender reissue is going to hold its value for resale and potentially go up in value through the years. For me, I wanted the experience of building one and I love have a great sounding amp that I made. It’s a great feeling and I learned a lot in the process.
@MariJu1ce
@MariJu1ce 2 жыл бұрын
@@MichaelWWestbrook thanks for replying! Gonna need to try the reissue for myself. The main thing for me is the tone. Funny thing is, the reason for wating a tweed dlx is my favourite amp for recording is the UAD tweed55. I even prefer it over my matchless hc30 for most things. But for gigs the matchless is to heavy. And if the monitor mix is bad, its hit or miss to use only digital uad amp with no speaker.
@aurielmusic
@aurielmusic 3 жыл бұрын
Hey what is the neck pickup on the tele? Cool sound!
@MichaelWWestbrook
@MichaelWWestbrook 3 жыл бұрын
Fralin Blues Specials (I think is what they call them) Basically they are 5% overwound of their standard Tele pickup. It makes a little warmer/darker. I can swap between it and humbuckers guitars without such a drastic difference.
@diceman220
@diceman220 2 жыл бұрын
If you were to buy a reissue which one, would you buy? Thanks
@MichaelWWestbrook
@MichaelWWestbrook 2 жыл бұрын
Hard to say. I’d be looking at Victoria, Grammatico or maybe the stuff Morgan is doing in small batches.
@davegesner7173
@davegesner7173 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Mike! Beauty playing. I've been playing with different sounds lately and trying to get a swampy delta blues sound. Do you think this amp would deliver?
@MichaelWWestbrook
@MichaelWWestbrook 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely! You could also try something a touch lower wattage to get more breakup at less volume as well - something like a tweed champ or tweed Princeton style amp.
@davegesner7173
@davegesner7173 2 жыл бұрын
Great! Thanks Mike👍
@herbalbert
@herbalbert 3 жыл бұрын
Do you think the speaker is more versatile than the jensen c12q that comes with the mojotone kit? Love all the same things about the amp but have one that does that job and looking for a tiny bit more headroom I think. Thanks!
@MichaelWWestbrook
@MichaelWWestbrook 3 жыл бұрын
I’m not super familiar with that speaker but most people find the new Jensen stuff to be on a bright side. The Sc64 that I mentioned seems to be really versatile but some people also love a Vintage 30 in a tweed style amp. If you are looking for more head room look for a really efficient speaker. Look for at least 98db rating but ideally higher. This should make it a little louder and help you with the headroom issue a bit
@Respecttheriff
@Respecttheriff Жыл бұрын
What do you like better about the Eminence compared to Celestion Gold? I have a gold in mine. It's a great sounding speaker but, I find it very bassy, and wondering if there's a better option.
@sideasoundlab
@sideasoundlab 3 жыл бұрын
Do you have a Lollar royal T on your tele ? How do you like it ? Is it very Stratty ?
@MichaelWWestbrook
@MichaelWWestbrook 3 жыл бұрын
It’s the Fralin Blues Special. Standard Tele pickup but %5 overwound. I did a video on the Tele recently!
@MariJu1ce
@MariJu1ce 11 ай бұрын
I have some really harsh very high frequency clipping type of distoriton on top of the note when i play the E and B strings on my 5e3, only when i play kinda loud, anyone know what this can be? Tried changing speaker and tubes. Or maybe this is just the 5e3 sound?
@joshbabbitt9243
@joshbabbitt9243 3 жыл бұрын
This puppy sounds great! Got me thinkin'! Btw, love your guitars..is the strat an American Original 60s?
@MichaelWWestbrook
@MichaelWWestbrook 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Yes, that’s the Strat!
@NELJHAN123
@NELJHAN123 3 жыл бұрын
I am use that amps solo of hotel California because that is original amps for eagles
@392blackfinger
@392blackfinger 3 жыл бұрын
Allow me to propose an absolutely radical idea to get more headroom- roll back that crazy little knob on your guitar that does volume duty a notch or two. I know it's just plain bananas but, by god, it f*&^%$#g works.
@MichaelWWestbrook
@MichaelWWestbrook 3 жыл бұрын
Yep, that works too
@terrillmel
@terrillmel Жыл бұрын
How did you select the speaker you chose? Did you try others?
@erikhartley2494
@erikhartley2494 3 жыл бұрын
What about the smooth tweed twin 5f8 style but at a lower wattage? Is that a schematic?
@MichaelWWestbrook
@MichaelWWestbrook 3 жыл бұрын
Not sure! This was my first build so I’m just getting into the world of amp building
@1dimtim
@1dimtim Жыл бұрын
what about biasing??? thanks
@MichaelWWestbrook
@MichaelWWestbrook Жыл бұрын
5e3 is cathode biased so it is self-bias-ing.
@Cactustone
@Cactustone 3 жыл бұрын
Love that Gold Top tone. What pups are you using?
@MichaelWWestbrook
@MichaelWWestbrook 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Stock Burstbuckers.
@Cactustone
@Cactustone 3 жыл бұрын
@@MichaelWWestbrook Yessiree! My first listen to that guitar in your hands was in your vid covering for Rhett. Gosh dang that thing has the most perfect mid-range growl. Thanks for these videos!
@frantisca
@frantisca 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Michael: nice video ! What ate the pickups on the black Tele ? Cheers
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