Pulling a Tree Down with a Skid Loader - This was a Total Failure

[@RockhillfarmYT]

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[@raymondmcdonald7085]

Thanks for the links. Been wanting products like this for my trees but just hadn't researched it.

[@RockhillfarmYT]

Glad to help

[@Hfoutdoorsyt]

Man that’s great you can learn from the mistake and it not cost you nothing! Good job Brock

[@RockhillfarmYT]

Thank you sir

[@FireDude13]

Howdy Brock! Wow - dodged a bullet there! But, the tree is down, everyone is safe, no damage to the hut, and you gained some more experience/knowledge. Not an optimal execution but it is done. Lesson learned and onward. Thanks for sharing and helping us learn a few things with you. 🤠

[@RockhillfarmYT]

Yes sir Thanks for watching

[@paulcasefarms9933]

Not a total failure. No one was hurt. No building damage and you learned something.

[@RockhillfarmYT]

Thanks for the encouragement Paul

[@BradMyers]

During my firefighting certification, the only class that I almost failed was knot tieing. I could perform everything else great, except for those stupid knots. I final got enough knots tied correctly to pass that section and earn my cert, but was told not to tie anything on a scene and stick to treating patients. Some nice lessons learned from the project. The most important thing, no one got hurt.

[@FireDude13]

lol you sound like me! At the fire academy, ropes were a challenge for me. As a funny twist of fate, later in my firefighting career I taught high angle rope rescue and industrial confined space rescue. I had about 10 knots I had to learn how to tie left and right handed, upside down, and backwards as you never knew what orientation you might be in when working with students. I've been retired for 15 years... I doubt I remember how to tie even half of those knots... 🤣

[@RockhillfarmYT]

I have never been good with knots either but I know a couple now

[@theElderberryFarmer]

I'm glad that lady luck was smiling on you that day, Brock! Hard to get a tree closer to the Q-hut than that without twisting some metal.

[@RockhillfarmYT]

Yes sir

[@dustdevl1043]

It's a good thing you didn't follow my advice about the tree, I had no idea that it was hollow!

[@RockhillfarmYT]

Yeah. Hollow trees suck

[@craigb5752]

Couple of suggestions that work well for me is the following: I general cut a little deeper on my 1st cut where I want the tree falling than you. Secondly my 2nd cut starts higher and goes at a 45 degree angle towards my chip out.

[@2point..0]

Lucky you!!!

[@tommayhew1724]

I appreciate your honesty. keep learning like the rest of... one failure at a time:)

[@Bobsutubes]

Maybe not perfect but IMO definitely not a failure. 1. No one hurt. 2. No equipment or asset damage. 3. Valuable lessons learned to use another day. Winner...

[@andrewanderson1436]

Despite it not going to plan its down now and no one and the building didn't get hurt.

[@TheReallyPleasedDoge]

When I first saw the title I though you had tried to push the tree over with the JD.. found this can be dangerous both if the root flips up under the quick hitch and attachment and bucks into the cab or, I also found that the bigger trees if you don't knock them over "bounce" back, and can actually tip back over your machine. Often they break branches in the process and those fall on you as well. Stopped doing it that way... Good call to leave the project until the swarm was gone, the more of them around the better. They were in there pretty deep, work would have stopped very fast and painfully if you had tried to cut it with them in there, I doubt a smoker would get up there and they would not be pleased. I picked a HLA heavy duty stump bucket up a while ago and it works really well for those roots, you end up working the bucket under them and using the serrated edge to rip them through until you can get the stump free. Works great with boulders, probably chew up that sandstone too. Look them up they are reasonably priced and I've found it to be really well built. Thanks again for another video!

[@cutfirsthuglater3240]

I teach a basic chainsaw operations and safety. I’ve got 40+ years of experience as a timber faller in the PNW. You were right about leaving more holding wood on the one side of the tree. You’d have been able to see that easily if you hadn’t made your back cut underneath the lean of the tree. That’s exactly where you don’t want to be making a back cut. You’re asking for trouble. Either way use the sights on your saw to not just aim the face cut to where you want the tree to go but use your sights to make your back cut to. Then you’ll know how much holding wood you have or how much more to cut. Any questions just message me. I’d be glad to help. Kinda hard to do that without being in work setting but I could try. Again, stay out from underneath the lean of the tree. Even if it’s rock solid. It’s a good habit. Stay safe.

[@RockhillfarmYT]

Thanks

[@samuelmchenry6886]

At lest it wasn’t an expensive mistake but I guarantee you learned something you won’t forget. I’m not sure if it wouldn’t have turned off the stump even if you had pulled it with the tractor sort of hard to tell the way the hing is facing from the video. But I have watched you cut enough trees down to know you know what your doing. Anyway no one was hurt and the building wasn’t damaged so I would call it a win. Might not have worked out like you wanted but it did work out. Thanks for the video.

[@RockhillfarmYT]

Thanks for the encouragement

[@PineyGroveHomestead]

That was an oh💩moment for sure, Brock. Sometimes it's better to be lucky than good!

[@RockhillfarmYT]

Thanks for watching

[@marvindiamonjr.9631]

Try this one time. Make your face cut more open, top and bottom cuts both at angles. This allows the tree to fall further before the hinge wood breaks. The face cut should be pointing to where you want the tree to fall. When you make your back cut, aim it to the right or left of the face cut depending on which direction you want the tree to fall. This will usually be the opposite side of the lean. As the tree falls, the narrow side of the hinge wood breaks first making the tree fall in the direction the back cut is aimed. The tree will generally fall closer to where the back cut is aimed rather than the face cut. Of course, this only works within reason. You can't make the tree fall the opposite way of its lean. And you should always use a wedge on complicated cuts to keep the tree from setting down on your saw. There is nothing worse than having your saw trapped in a complicated cut! It's not easy to translate this efficiently in writing. Practice on a few trees that are in areas where nothing can be destroyed. You'll then better understand the effect the back cut has on the direction of the fall. When using a rope, always try to pull the tree in a direction that will relieve the compression in its lean. Pulling in the direction of the compression will only increase the chances the tree will barber chair. This is only general advice. Each felling has its own set of dangers and complications. Experience will increase the positive results. Hope this helps.

[@jphickory522]

Excellent advice

[@BS.-.-]

Two come a longs end to end work very well for pulling trees. It gives you the ability to make the face cut, tighten the pullers and see the top of the tree move a bit. It also dosnt put expensive equipment in danger. Also a "bull rope" has very little stretch in it. In this case rope stretch would have helped you quite a bit.

[@jefffrancis6824]

👍👍

[@patrickcorbett8361]

I liked this video Brock, it was exciting ! You know what they say ...Don't ASS U ME anything ! Lol ! pc

[@RockhillfarmYT]

Yes sir. Thank you for watching

[@frankdrahos8569]

It helps to be good, but it is imperative to be lucky!!!

[@RockhillfarmYT]

Yes sir

[@toddcaskey9984]

Tie a knot in your rope 2 feet from the beenbag and you hold the knot swinging towards the tree release the knot and you can really throw the rope . Or KZbin it to see how your suspose to do it .

[@2001eskimo]

You have to be smarter than the tree

[@RockhillfarmYT]

Thanks for the insight

[@harrymorley9847]

the operator clearly had zero idea of what he was doing

[@bigsway4414]

I name drop you every chance I get in the comments on other KZbinrs channels. Tractor time with Tim has responded a few times. On his video last night with the flail mower I told him what he should do to make his channel better like yours and he responded. I mess with him a lot and it’s funny because he’s quick to get mad but when I tell him I’m joking he’s fine. He looks like a giant next to Neil Koch from Dig drive DYII.

[@RockhillfarmYT]

I’m out here Recording my video for the day and decided to read a comment of the day. This one cracked me up but I’m not going to read it on the video out of respect for those other guys

[@RockhillfarmYT]

The name dropping thing is cool so thanks

[@markziegler3551]

So have you actually measured the height of the tree and the distance to the quonset building? looks like there is a lot of room to just let it go that way.

[@frijoli9579]

May not have been what you wanted, but total failure would have hit you or the building.

[@RockhillfarmYT]

Thank you for watching and encouraging