Pulsar Code Editor :: The Atom Editor Lives!

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[@grafgrantula6100]

CTRL + SHIFT + P for command palette was almost certainly pioneered by Sublime Text, not Atom. As was the multi cursor. The horrible performance of a browser as a text editor was pioneered by Atom. VSCode surprisingly succeeded at getting performance to a not as bad level, that is apparently good enough for a lot of people.

[@CPU_Fronz]

True, when I tried Atom and VSCode back in 2018, VSCode was always the more performant of the two.

[@marioprawirosudiro7301]

This. Sublime was the VSCode before VSCode, including the massive plugin ecosystem. Much faster too. The advantages of VSCode over Sublime is that it's free (you have to pay for Sublime... sort of...) and that it has an _even bigger_ plugin ecosystem.

[@asdfghjkl-jk6mu]

i still use sublime for performance reasons

[@grafgrantula6100]

@@asdfghjkl-jk6mu Same here :) Maybe if I accidently become a really cool dude, I might switch to Neovim, but that's improbable.

[@asdfghjkl-jk6mu]

​@@grafgrantula6100i have neovim and use it from time to time but learning the shortcuts is too much work and doesn't really save that much time.

[@immortalxgr]

Now if the news was "Sublime text goes open-source" I'd be excited. But an Atom revival? I mean yeah sure, kudos to those guys, but good luck beating VSCode. Which doesn't win any prices for performance but the frequency of updates is unreal and the amount of features they implemented is phenomenal. They'd have to pull quite a few rabbits out of the hat to compete with it.

[@Boxing_Gamer]

Vs code won by cheat, in a fair fight it wouldn't have steamrolled atom

[@benjamindavis9352]

If you can't beat them, buy them. - Probably Microsoft.

[@sleepingcolossus]

I too had an inexplicable urge to search for Atom forks earlier this week

[@PondersTech]

It used to be my go-to code editor until they killed it.

[@n30hrtgdv]

Good for the community. For someone who mostly uses notepad++ all these dev environments a bit of an overkill for me.

[@pietraderdetective8953]

Ahh a fellow notepad++ user!! 💪 Have you tried Pulsar? How's the memory usage? I love npp due to it's super low memory usage..i think it's the most lightweight code editor I've ever found.

[@Enzoerb]

Atom was my favorite 2 years ago, when it was killed I migrated to VIM, and now Emacs

[@CyberWorldwithPratik]

Niceee I have been using Atom for last 4 years

[@mytunes7401]

A little pedantic but im pretty sure sublime text was the first editor with ctrl-shift-p. And atom kind of replaced sublime text as the defacto "I dont want to use a ide but I dont want to use emacs or vim editor".

[@marksmithcollins]

Tried, but it couldn't. VScode is laughing

[@ShinSpiegel]

Like always a good video. Sadly that Microsoft killed Atom, and on VSCode added so much AI junk on the editor that is now super bloated.

[@neamupanselutelor7309]

I really liked Atom back in the day, but the current configuration shown in this video is really ugly lol

[@EduardKaresli]

Unfortunately I don't see a reason for using Atom/forks. I'm using VS Code mostly and it's very slow for big projects. I'm hoping that Zed will soon be released for Windows.

[@tomoprime217]

Mike any news from Garage Games? I mean we're digging deep for free game engine news.

[@Paruthi.618]

Codium, Pulsar.. cool editors

[@3-dog-solution]

Notepad++ for Linux .. finally!

[@plaintext7288]

Helix mentioned not nearly enough 😢

[@nicholasbuckner5221]

I miss Atom.

[@ingframin]

Pulsar is really slow and lacks a ton of functionality compared to VS Code... I tried it and it does not stand a chance.

[@Volt-Eye.]

We want Zed to be this Flexible and Powerful with lightness of Rust

[@marksmithcollins]

Kick that out

[@LaloMartins]

Zed is a toy, Lapce is in active development but isn't making releases at all… who knows, maybe this has promise

[@Daniel_VolumeDown]

why a "toy" ?

[@_tsu_]

both lapce and zed look promising imho

[@loli42]

there's no reason for another editor to exist if it's just gonna be written in electron. what is it competing with? fortnite?

[@PomuLeafEveryday]

​@@loli42That's like saying all Unity games are the same, from Hollow Knight to your typical asset flip. Electron is just a platform.

[@loli42]

@@PomuLeafEveryday if your text editor doesn't try to compete by being low latency with low memory usage, then how is it even competing? vscode already has every feature anyone ever wanted, so you're not competing by making another slow web-based editor that uses 9001 gorillabytes of memory and ships everything but the kitchen sink. don't we already have dozens of those? video games are supposed to be fun. nobody really cares about anything else. hollow knight runs like SHIT and it's still one of my favorite games. video games get a pass because they are toys, whereas text editors are supposed to be tools.

[@jackochainsaw]

I liked Atom. I have recently started using VScode but am not loving it. I will probably give Pulsar a go, but was considering looking at some other editors.

[@SimGunther]

2:30 Emacs and Vim would like a word with you....

[@DevJeremi]

I loved Atom, but Pulsar is not use for me as I mostly do GDScript , C# and Python - and plugins for first 2 aren't updated.

[@Boxing_Gamer]

It was much better than the abomination vs code

[@kelvinchin5942]

I would be more intrested on zed as Pulsar still an electron app which I hate very much

[@Boxing_Gamer]

I liked Atom a whole lot more than VS code

[@joshbishop]

My computer systems professor uses for lectures lol

[@decryptedchaos]

I want to like Pulsar (Atom) I do, because I'm not a huge fan of who i have to thank for VS Code, but its just not there, stock Pulsar takes twice as long to load as my VS Code for whatever reason, severely lacking plugins in Pulsar.. i want to like it but the quality of life using it just holds me back.

[@seol-.-]

Maybe next content is PICOTRON which is made by pico8 creator, released 0.1

[@GianniLeonhart]

Why can't Electron die already? 😭

[@SeanJMay]

Because virtually nothing other than browsers have standard, cross-platform development experience, offering standardized API access for virtually everything that isn't an OS-specific features, and then simplifies access to OS-specific features... ...and Tauri, which is Electron but running Rust in the background, instead of Node, chooses to use the default browser that's bundled with the OS, so that it's already installed... which means, again, that if you need Bluetooth or serial support or GPU compute, that even Tauri is not going to provide a cross-platform experience, until each browser from each vendor implements all of the features your app needs. Oh, and declarative layout and style (CSS/HTML) is fantasticly simple for big, static, minimally-interactive stuff, versus more imperative immediate-mode APIs. The reason Electron exists is so that it can exist everywhere, without making that happen manually.

[@GianniLeonhart]

@@SeanJMay when will devs stop being lazy? 😭

[@SeanJMay]

@@GianniLeonhart well, to turn that around, when will the developers of the OSes stop being lazy, and give us standard access to standard interfaces, for accomplishing all goals, across all OSes, in a memory/process safe fashion, that reasonably allows a developer to safely make something without juggling dozens of different imports, each set of imports being environment-specific... oh, did I mention it also runs on x86-64 and RISC chips... with all kinds of spaghetti to tie those together, with predicates to run the right branches in the right environments, on the right architecture... and then some ungodly monstrosity of a compile process that also includes XCode, and owning MacBooks, just to compile, because Apple hates you... When will they stop being lazy, form a consortium, and give us that? Because otherwise, you either have to have 3 teams making 3 different products, with 3 different codebases, and pray that they are all making the same thing, and that it's cross-compatibile, hire one magician who knows everything about every library and every edge-case on every major OS, but is also great at making interactive user experiences and isn't just a low-level OS dev, who can architect the entire system and build process, for others to develop on... ...or the spaghetti monstrosity I mentioned above. Meanwhile, WASM allows you to run most compiled library code in most common languages, if it's the compile target... regardless of the platform or the chipset architecture... and idiomatic WebGPU code runs screaming-fast compared to how people write idiomatic OpenGL (/OpenGL ES / WebGL 2), because it's an abstraction over a standard subset of features / behaviors in DX12 / Vulkan / Metal. And it automatically dispatches to DX12 / Vulkan / Metal, depending on the environment, so you don't have to rewrite it all by hand, or take extra performance hits from writing multiple translation layers stacked on top of one another, and then debugging the ensuing mess. You don't want solution 1, where you can only use your productivity app if everyone at the company ditches all of their computers and just buys new MacBooks... or just buys new Windows PCs... and the makers of those tools don't want to spend 3x the money on 3x the number of devs and QAs, to solve the same bugs 3 different ways in 3 different codebases, with features launched on different platforms at different times... and you don't want the 3rd option, where everything is broken, all of the time... ...and there are only so many OS wizards, who are also devops wizards, who are also architecture wizards, who are also devex wizards... That's not a common person, so option 2 requires you to be lucky enough to have someone like that, who is happy with the pittance you are paying them.

[@wacesferpit]

@@GianniLeonhart have fun remaking your program almost from scratch 3 times (or 5 if you want to also target phones) with different APIs and build systems, and then you can complain about 'lazy'

[@torrescle]

Looks like sublime text

[@jackochainsaw]

They are very similar. I did a Javacscript course and tried out both. Sublime text and Atom (now Pulsar) are very similar to one another.

[@Roddev776]

Is good but i can use it with godot ?

[@gamefromscratch]

You can, but the plugins are problematic, so honestly its not a very good fit right now. If someone picks up development of the existing Godot plugins, sure. If not, honestly other choices are probably better.

[@Boxing_Gamer]

I made a plugin for this, maybe it still works!