PUMA: Meet The Infantry Fighting Vehicle Which CONNECTS DIGITALLY To Troops

[@vermillion.__-_.]

Mannn ! this thing sounds amazing! that whistle of the gun, the turbo spool, beautiful.

[@TomsGotPowers]

We get it, it's called Puma. WTF was that beginning? 🤣🤦‍♂️

[@TheNorman1169]

More Cats running across the screen please :)

[@koolyman]

Just enough to class this as a cat video

[@tobytoxd]

@@koolyman Yea. Thanks to that my 3 year old daughter is now hooked up in the military video algorithm.

[@GotQuality]

The lethality of modern armoured vehicles is scary

[@LordCoeCoe]

That's the point

[@abroamg]

@tuco the rat that's that proximity fuses are for

[@Mediiiicc]

Those transitions lmao

[@janpruim2676]

It sounds so satisfying

[@mrblonde7462]

The Germans have always been advanced in modern warfare. Their tanks proved formidable in WW2 and the German infantry are the toughest soldiers on the planet.

[@arcanummortis440]

I am german and am honored by your comment but there are tough soldiers all over the world. Compared to other nations we have Not that many experienced soldiers like israel, usa and russia ^^

[@frederikfabisch6311]

@@arcanummortis440 Well, after a month of Ukraine we can probably cross out russia ;) Hells yeah, we're climbing up that ladder!

[@sovietkrab1871]

@@frederikfabisch6311 l

[@1000roentgens]

@@sovietkrab1871 if they start more things with more countries we’ll see what their main military infantry can do.

[@benjaminvance5076]

Slow ur roll brother. Tough fighting men all over the planet. Everyone ne has their attributes they bring to the fight. Being tough doesn’t stop bullets from blowing your head off your body. With that ideology you could say Russian soldier are just as tough cause they beat the Germans, but in reality they just sacrificed an unbelievable amount of men to achieve “victory”. And we are seeing it again today in Ukraine. Taliban and isis were inferior in every way and they killed a lot of coalition personnel.

[@PB-hr3hy]

I left service just 3 years ago and I have seen tanks and apc firing in real life but this stability is just insane. Wish we have this in my country

[@EvidensInsania]

What country if you don't mind me asking? This sort of stabilization has been common for many years now in more modern armies.

[@zhufortheimpaler4041]

@@EvidensInsania not in infantry fighting vehicles.

[@supaloc]

Where you from son?

[@panzerkampfwagenviiimaus3976]

@@EvidensInsania stabilizers guns have been around sense ww2 but I was a lot less common

[@tonyaughney8945]

A great vehicle for a great Army of a great people.

[@texleeger8973]

Bradley: I'm 39 years old and I can do anything you can do. Puma: Hold my beer.

[@ashleygoggs5679]

the funny thing is the germans put beer on the ends of their tank barrels to show its stability haha

[@frederickoftheartic2209]

Ah yes, Germany's tradition of naming armored vehicles after big cats.

[@RaGeAlucard]

like the Marder?

[@someone-om8dn]

@@RaGeAlucard like Tiger, Königstiger, Panther, Gepard and so on

[@Yurihen]

Leopard

[@saints2488]

@@someone-om8dndepends on the vehicle. tanks are mostly named after big cats but there are also many other animal names-> Grille, Elefant, Nashorn, Hummel, Wespe, Hornissen, etc

[@someone-om8dn]

@@saints2488 i know but big cats are mostly favouritized

[@MochineMike]

Germans at it again with their tanks! Brilliant designs as always 👌🏼

[@tommothedog]

What do you mean 'like always' are you talking about the overcosted, out of date, heavy ww2 vintage tanks or the substandard Leopard A2?

[@Swift-mr5zi]

@@tommothedog Why is the Leopard bad? I thought it was really good?

[@kanosaunders]

@@tommothedog shut up tommo, go and find someone in real life to argue with you sap.

[@monsieurboks]

@@tommothedog "substandard" despite being almost universally recognised as one of if not the best tank in the world. Of course.

[@snowtfl5617]

@@tommothedog what are you on them heavy out of date weapons were one of the most feared tanks in ww2 tigers and panzer were an deadly killer with an amazing kill ratio

[@evillabrador1]

Does it have tea making facilities?

[@kit888]

Beer

[@ltcmdrtobyfox3969]

Sausage making system is onboard.

[@ricodsanchez6792]

@@ltcmdrtobyfox3969 does that mean a sausage party on board?

[@Swift-mr5zi]

@@ricodsanchez6792 I wonder if the Germans are as gay as our armed forces are

[@saltymonke3682]

@@Swift-mr5zi well, some German soldiers that I know called their APC "Homohölle", lol

[@roguedrones]

It's an anti-infantry death machine, capable of killing literal hoards. As a normal man with an ak-47, seeing this pop it's turret at the crest of a hill 1km away...well... would be the only correct response be fear?

[@davidhouseman4328]

How about a normal man with a Kornet ATGM?

[@Lary-xg2un]

@@davidhouseman4328 will not go trough the Front and not on the side, ever heard of MUSS?

[@davidhouseman4328]

@@Lary-xg2un aye, was looking it up while posting. My post was more that a guy with an AK47 isn't the threat (Puma would be massive over kill).

[@Lary-xg2un]

@@davidhouseman4328 Yes a Dude behind a Kornet would be a much jucier target

[@scratchy996]

@@davidhouseman4328 This thing comes as default with soft kill systems and can be fitted with active hard kill systems on top of that. What's scary for the Kornet guy is that if he's spotted by any dismounted grenadier from 1km+ away, the Puma will automatically know his exact location and shoot airburst ammo at him from 3km away.

[@davequinn2369]

It all comes down to training. A great tool.

[@arealbobbydazzler2520]

To be seen in a street near you boris levelling up

[@SteveBlues87]

Thank god we're all friends now lol

[@lawgiver-2305]

Absolutely, BadAss, Mate !!! ;-)

[@jensmenges4262]

Hmmm, that sound of the engine at the end...tank porno at its best

[@maas2198]

It's not only about having a stabilized gun or a munition that is programmable. All these things are not new. It's actually all about "99.9% first hit probability within 3000m during movement (with programmable ammo)".

[@fuzer4047]

most IFVs use ATGM for destroying tanks

[@maas2198]

@@fuzer4047 ATGM is a rocket. And you need to normally keep sight until impact. Projectiles have other effects. Nearly direct impact. And much more cheaper in use. An ATGM can miss like a projectile. The cost difference is immense. And a war is also an economic issue. Sending a Patriot rocket for every Shahed-Drone and you will lose the war.

[@fuzer4047]

@@maas2198 it would only possibly miss if the IFV is in the move thats why it would need to be stationary and if needed it can use smoke screen to escape

[@cp4512]

Just as UK military decides in the IR it doesn’t need an updated IFV and that a wheeled vehicle without a turret is comparable 😐

[@NaziHampster]

Its almost like they want us to lose any battle. Abroad or at home.

[@FrostySire]

Aren’t they getting the Ajax?

[@cp4512]

@@FrostySire yes it’s an ‘armoured’ fighting vehicle, but it’s not an ‘infantry’ fighting vehicle like Warrior. The Ajax with a turret can’t fit a section of troops in it (even though it’s massive and twice the weight compared with its predecessor the Scimitar!). But the Ajax turret has a great turret with 40mm cannon.

[@gregs7562]

@@cp4512 there is an Ajax ifv vehicle if we do decide to add later. Look up Ascod 42. Think the Czech army are the first to operate it but with a 30mm cannon. Lookz suspiciously like the govt will buy more Boxer though & add a turret like the Oz versions.

[@cp4512]

@@gregs7562 you’re right there’s an Ascod IFV variant (on which the British vehicles are based) but not in the Ajax family that was developed by GD. It’s taken almost 10 years for GD to develop the Ajax family from the Ascod vehicle, so making an IFV variant would take several more years. It would also be way more expensive that updating Warrior, which the MOD can’t afford to do hence the cancellation of the Warrior upgrade programme. For interest, there are also a few different turreted variants of Boxer, but I’m not sure MOD can afford those either.

[@whya2ndaccount]

Technology + will to invest = Capability. I'm sure the Mechanised Infantry Bns in in the British Army are crying in the their beers.

[@adamatch9624]

Yes the budget is getting bigger so that they can invest in better tech.

[@zhufortheimpaler4041]

@@adamatch9624 the mech infantry in the UK will transition away from being mech infantry to motorised infantry. No more IFV but wheeled Boxer APC´s for them.

[@scottroberts7875]

German engineering 💪👍 hopefully we place a large order very very soon

[@persiangulfbaghdad9454]

the world needed German technologies,without German technology the world would not rotate 365 degrees

[@Madman-bb2nc]

GERMAN ENGINEERING IS THE WORLDS FINEST

[@kronos4136]

Unless you drive a BMW or Mercedes!

[@tobytoxd]

@@kronos4136 You can buy a Porsche.

[@jacksonteller1337]

Unfortunately the production is put on hold as the electrical components need sorting. Last year in a joint life fire exercise the Bundeswehr lost 18 to short circuits, one completely burned out. For the main replacement of the Marder a new version of the GTK Boxer is being built. Once the electrical engineering is sorted there is going to be a limited acquisition of the Puma getting them to 400+. Too many new components in one new vehicle made it follow the same path as the US LCH.

[@emilsinclair4190]

Except that this is wrong. Only 2 vehicels had serious damages. Every other vehicle either wasn't broken (someone forgot to activate the air con and than thought it was broken) or were fixed in just a few days.

[@BlaulingHD]

I love how you can clearly hear the German accent XD As a German myself, I find that funny

[@fastfreddy19641]

Nice kit

[@ItsAlexYo90]

Noooice

[@ninjagamers2659]

Nice

[@agamzamzani]

German sure love to naming their war machine with animal

[@paulmcgee1867]

We could not buy this? Sometime ago we had an armoured research establishment

[@meme4one]

UK? We just spaffed 300 million on the warrior sustainment programme....and probably won't keep warrior, replacing it with Boxer instead. I don't know anything about the puma outside of what's online here but it would appear to be a good warrior replacement at a fraction of the hassle of building one ourselves.

[@paulmcgee1867]

@@meme4one totally agree we are let down again by MOD and politicians

[@cp4512]

The new Warrior was good to go and ready for production so development costs had finished. The production facility was already built. The MOD just needed to sign the production contract. ☹️

[@Stephanthesearcher]

dont think thats a good idear, the puma is rediculusly overpriced. it weights as much as a russian mbt with half the frontal protection. i, as a german, am glad we have it but i think the military industry , again, riped us off badly.

[@emilsinclair4190]

@@Stephanthesearcher fun fact about the price: the price is as high because of the low numbe rof units. If other countries would have also decided to buy it the price would definitely be cheaper.

[@ashleygoggs5679]

Just imagine what us brits could do if we had the appropriate funds. At the moment in europe our navy is second to non. Our airforce is moderate and our army will hugely capable for its size is lagging behind. Parliament need to stop focusing on one branch of the military and share the love. If the tempest project fails i will be livid.

[@adamatch9624]

Em our military is one off the best in the world and it is just getting better.

[@ashleygoggs5679]

@@adamatch9624 dont confuse best trained as being the best overall military. If we had the number of troops other nations had then yes there maybe a point to argue. But our Military is absolutely tiny.

[@bobthebomb1596]

@@ashleygoggs5679 The UK has never fielded a large standing army outside of actual combat.

[@ashleygoggs5679]

@@bobthebomb1596 indeed we havnt but we have always had a professional army. However that dosnt mean given a war scenario we would win. Russia is a fantastic example of the opposite side of the spectrum Russia rarely has had a professional army to the degree of the british, yeh they waved their flag atop the reichstag during 1945. Point being if we want to be a capable war machine we need more units and more soldiers... somehow.

[@bobthebomb1596]

@@ashleygoggs5679 Once Germany failed to capture the Caucasus oil fields there was never much doubt about the outcome on the Eastern Front. The problem with having more units is persuading people to fill the posts. That said, we could use a temporary increase of the defence budget to 3% GDP to bridge all the black holes.

[@PervonHarke]

Okay in the intro the panther running across is cool. But every image switch is annoying.

[@VanderlyndenJengold]

... wait until you see one in the wild whilst you're cycling. The animal or the IFV.

[@jurgenmuller143]

Under this title you find footage about the Puma VJTF for NRF23 including livefiring the MELLS missiles. Search“

[@jurgenmuller143]

Bundeswehr Channel VJTF Puma“ on YT

[@kokohero]

Germans equals beast mode tanks. Always have always Will🫡

[@para7843]

Germans are brilliant at building kit. I have a German car and it says it all. Look what MBTs they had in WW2 far superior to our MBTs.

[@stiffchocolate7546]

No one cares Walter

[@VanderlyndenJengold]

I have a German made car and it keeps passing it's MOT no matter how poorly I treat it. Very impressive.

[@tonybutler3502]

Can't we buy these for British Army, rather than faff around for a decade or more while MOD wastes millions and we get nothing worth while?

[@stiffchocolate7546]

@@tonybutler3502 why are you asking people on KZbin

[@EvidensInsania]

WW2 German tanks were far inferior to Allied tanks at actually fighting a war, they just looked good on paper.

[@jyotirmayamohanty5723]

Video starts with a very Humorous statement: The German army has a new big cat. But true.

[@keepingcalm6469]

Ha ! finaly we kann shoot at the British ! (....training facility) - why wasn't that a headline in 'the Sun' - 'Newspaper' ?

[@mr.grumpyspider7874]

Puma's of WW2 would be proud.

[@randyraudi7725]

You mean the Panther. The Panther back then was a Medium Tank, there is a modern tank with the name Panther kf51, it's a Battletank.

[@Highskill3r]

@@randyraudi7725 there was also an armored light verhicle called puma.

[@randyraudi7725]

@@Highskill3r Okay you are right, but the naming is really niche, I mean it affected a scout tank which was only produced for nearly a year and only the ones with closed turret had this name.

[@Highskill3r]

@@randyraudi7725 yes it was a "Sdkfz" if i remember correctly

[@lowkey724]

0:43 WHAT THE LOCK DOIN

[@TheBillo733]

Will see

[@chrisrowland1514]

Are you watching UK government ?

[@Papi1960R]

Most probably the new IFV of the United States Army. It in a competition, but the competition isn't close. Only politics can beat it.

[@comsubpac]

only that it isn't part of the competition. The cheaper, less capable Lynx was but was disqualified after beating the american made participant in every way.

[@positroll7870]

The competition was scrapped, then relaunched and the lynx is once again a contender...

[@dude861]

No, the Puma is not in the competition. United State might get the Lynx, which is based on the Puma technology though.

[@michaelarmstrong9722]

Why is Germany the best at developing new tech? I'm starting to think that God gifted these people in the way that they think. But as a result, I would low key not want smoke with these guys on the battlefield.

[@EvidensInsania]

They're not.

[@zhufortheimpaler4041]

because germany invests into its defense industry. buying off the shelf solutions from other partners lets your local industry crumble. something the UK now struggles with, as they let their industry die in the last 30 years.

[@englishnature7850]

So just like the APC in the movie 'Aliens'?

[@haydenanderson9250]

“It kinda looks like a Puma…” Red vs Blue Season 1 Ep. 1

[@markgray3648]

Hmm, just as we’ve announced Warrior won’t be updated and will eventually scrapped. Is relying on wheeled vehicles like the Boxer really a good idea?

[@davidhouseman4328]

I don't think it's ideal but I think it makes sense on a limited budget.

[@davidhouseman4328]

@@cp4512 What is right for others doesn't necessarily mean what is right for us. We aren't a continental army like Germany and we are set further back from the Russian border. You say all peers but France doesn't have tracked IFV, and they are our closed comparison? If we had the resources of the US army sure, we don't.

[@user-wr5jo3lp7f]

@@davidhouseman4328 it's also because we're now focusing on our "strike" brigades which need to be quick to deploy and move around, wheeled vehicles are much better at this than tracked ones

[@Chaddlee]

Well by the end of the decade the British Army will only number about 20,000 troops. I think of fleet of Toyota Hilux trucks will be all we are allowed to buy.

[@zhufortheimpaler4041]

@@user-wr5jo3lp7f so no MBT either? because the Cr2 weights 75t without the LEP upgrades and with this is too heavy to be properly deployed with a strike brigade

[@darkxd8366]

anyone here cuz IN WARTHUNDER THIS THING IS OP AF

[@kit888]

Send them to Ukraine.

[@rosshart9514]

Wow. Your post is one year old!

[@exerity7942]

Does this thing carry Spike missiles?

[@Noah-ph1zj]

i think it carries MELLS

[@zhufortheimpaler4041]

@@Noah-ph1zj wich is SPIKE LR 2 but wiith german designation (Multiroll Operational Light Guided Missile System)

[@Noah-ph1zj]

@@zhufortheimpaler4041 ahhh got it

[@johnmcclainejriii5829]

"Britain's Largest Training Area"... I wonder for how long.

[@dean1039]

Britain has had military training facilities and bases in Germany since 1945. Most have one hundred year leases. So until 2045 at the earliest.

[@aws6040]

@@dean1039 There are some 200 British soldiers permanently stationed at Senne. More of course during training deployments. The area is not explicitely leased to GB. It runs under NATO statute.

[@elias_xp95]

Keep dreaming for a fallout because it's never gonna come.

[@johnmcclainejriii5829]

@@elias_xp95 What?

[@elias_xp95]

@@johnmcclainejriii5829 Why?

[@Dr.D00p]

looks a nice bit of kit...The British Army must look on with envy at the Bundeswehr, thinking they could have all these nice toys, if only the Royal Navy didn't take all the defence budget money to pay for Aircraft Carriers & Trident subs 😋

[@ehiyahasgotabenthairline2586]

yeah, the british army could use with some of these, this infantry fighting vehicle looks very effective don't you think

[@stevengruber57]

I dunno, for the UK I think it was the right choice. And hopefully if it ever kicks off the Germans will be on our side this time with these beasts.

[@thomashinks6505]

Totally were working with antique technology and we ll never keep up

[@ehiyahasgotabenthairline2586]

@@thomashinks6505 our new boxer infantry fighting vehicle is modern.

[@davidhouseman4328]

It would be nice to have everything but we are off the edge of the continent not on the main land.

[@SnepSnep420]

Wow War thunder got the sound perfect

[@lorenzventura2978]

There was a Tiger and Panther Now there's PUMA

[@tobytoxd]

and ADIDAS

[@plutodestroyer12]

looks deadly

[@Crissy_the_wonder]

I thought there were eight battalions with the Puma?

[@stiffchocolate7546]

Well you're wrong smart ass

[@omh9309]

@@stiffchocolate7546 behave lad

[@stiffchocolate7546]

@@omh9309 i will not lol

[@positroll7870]

Five puma bats for now. Enough for one armored division. Four Marder bat's. Two getting full upgrades with new engines, two just getting new optics etc. Plan is / was to replace them with more puma but after all the teething troubles the army isn't too happy with the idea of sending such complicated machines to, say, Mali. So maybe we ll get more boxer instead. Or maybe the cheaper, simpler lynx. Plus some Jaeger bats on boxer apcs and hopefully adding a company each of boxer ifvs / crvs with 30mm gun. 80+ are planned. The later still need funding, though.

[@flareamv5503]

Germans: puma is the most advance most powerful new pew pew thingy Soviets with ZSU-57-2: 👀 (fyi this is a joke dont take it seriously)

[@sasmac1829]

The vehicle is good but very costly

[@tobytoxd]

Ach was

[@maxsteele20]

And we've spent a couple of hundred million on a failed Warrior upgrade...should've invested in Puma instead.. Another cockup by the MOD, but hey...jobs for the boys eh, it's only money...

[@paulmcgee1867]

Classic

[@Swift-mr5zi]

Literally exactly what I was thinking

[@akatheboy1071]

It wasn’t failed they done what they were supposed to just the government cut the funds for the program and decided boxer can do the same job big mistake if you ask me

[@maxsteele20]

@@akatheboy1071 Not critical of Lockheed Martin...it's all the Governments/MOD's fault...dragging it out for years..probably quite a few retired generals in the midst and plenty of managers who've made a mint and we the tax payer foot the bill. just my thoughts.. :)

[@1chish]

As usual we have the Brit knockers (mostly British ne'er do wells) chiming in rubbishing everything the British Army has and does while forgetting the new AJAX tracked and BOXER wheeled vehicles that are comparable to this excellent piece of kit. The Aussies are buying exactly the same BOXER vehicle wheeled vehicle we are and everyone says 'great piece of kit well done Aussies.

[@EnterTheFenix]

Yeah the reality of it is that most of the modern IFVs are running comparable tech and capabilities, and its really down to the purchasing nation on which end of the spectrum they outfit their vehicles. But there's always bias ... "oh this is from Country-Z so its better than the exact same model country-X and country-Y are running"

[@positroll7870]

Except that the British mod didn't order any of those in the ifv version either. Only apcs and scouts...

[@1chish]

@@positroll7870 the UK are buying 500 Boxer units with a base module selection as well. As Boxer is modular any variant can be ordered separately. The thing will only start to go into service in 2023 and as always things will be added and changed as lessons are learned.

[@positroll7870]

@@1chish Can be ordered - if there is money available. Right now it doesnt look like there is any money planned in for that. And once you have negotiated and ordered the turrets, it takes time to build them. You also need to develop new doctrine - because a wheeled IFV needs different tactics from a warrior. Then train the lieutenants in that tactic. And train the soldiers and mechanics on the new gun / turret. All that takes time, and chances are there will be a noticeable gap between getting rid of warrior and adding a battle ready Boxer ifv unit.

[@denmark39]

560? They should have at least 2000!

[@someone-om8dn]

Yeah, our politicians rather have the pocket money themselves than give it to others

[@swunt10]

A second batch is already in the budget.

[@zhufortheimpaler4041]

and who should operate 2000 IIFV´s? The Bundeswehr is no longer allowed to be 500k men strong as it was inthe cold war.

[@steveaustin1011]

O no, not again........

[@Swift-mr5zi]

lol

[@kronos4136]

They never learn !

[@TrueChell]

You barely ever see these with the missiles though. Including none in this video.

[@realQuiGon]

Because the missiles are just being introduced now, while the Puma itself is already in service without them for 5+ years.

[@positroll7870]

Missiles are expensive and don't take too well to be shook around too much. Which is why the missile launchers only get added in peace time when the puma is actually planning on firing them. Also, full integration with the other computer systems took a while, but is now achieved. The dismount had the shoulder fired version for quite a while, though. Given that the US still haven't decided upon a Bradley replacement, Germany did reasonably well with the puma. It does have its weak points but overall it's a darn dangerous fighting machine.

[@Jimson367]

Here because of the war thunder update

[@22bernd1957]

It's pronounced: POOMA

[@kieran8564]

what happens if one of them rounds hit you

[@sandyboots4754]

If one of those rounds hits YOU, your village will have to find a new idiot.

[@pitb8690]

Jak kupisz to będziesz musiał pytać się czy możesz sprzedać i czy możesz strzelać do wroga po co komu to

[@SlaaneshiChaplain]

Is the editor drunk?

[@paulmartin4722]

Uk still got warrior good in its day,but long in the tooth now,time for some new kit now,uk takes to long to modernise.

[@justicewarrior9187]

Just in time to deploy near Ukraine

[@Highskill3r]

are u a time traveller??

[@waheex]

the cat transitions are annoying, like we get it

[@dianam.corpuzimdeaf2407]

Nice okay

[@richavocado8795]

Puima

[@benjaminvance5076]

2:45 “ we have better guns, ya. We have better computers. We have better armor. We are just better then you, ya” in a German accent 😂

[@sp7873]

he is referencing to the predecessor .. the Marder..

[@wotanscry1594]

they were talking in reference to the old Marder 1 IFV not any allied IFV. Firepowerwise theres the 40mm cannon on the Swedish CV90 . Protection and mobilitywise though - it is simply the best. And a 30mm with modern subcamiber muniton is as deadly as it needs to be.

[@jamestate7851]

Wait until the US Army with the M1 Abrams get to Ukraine with the New Trophy System installed. The Army in a field test fired 48 times at a Abrams and not one round hit the M1 Abrams the Trophy System took out all 48 rounds fired at the Abrams.

[@EvidensInsania]

Well you're comparing a MBT to an IFV buy I agree. All these idiots going on about how amazing German engineering is don't have a clue about it's track record in actual combat compared to American and British tech.

[@lakaiskates8064]

@@EvidensInsania Aren't the 105mm and the 120mm guns used in the M1 Abrams German engineering? lol

[@EvidensInsania]

@@lakaiskates8064 Yeah but America mainly went with them to help spread their funding around NATO a bit. But more important is the ammunition that they use and in the case of depleted uranium rounds are totally illegal in Germany.

[@hamsterbacke5962]

Well some of our leopards get the Trophy as well.

[@joergfro7149]

its well protecetd , in the front it can stand a 120mm projectile

[@noahrosz3902]

If it's as good as the old puma it would bee good

[@kurivaimpaharet583]

Well.. in (european) Land. *TANKS* name LIKE *CAT!* animal? Where is NEVER been any Cat'animals (LIKE Lion, tiger, puma..ha:)) - And *all* the Bear. wolf, and so on. They'been *KILLED* to extintion..( a Centuries ago.) - So? German ( *idiotic;)* 'way naming' war gear.. is? (ONLY) stupid. Just as ( *all* germanians Were too. in WW2, 'at least'.. ) *AND?* No. There has *NOT* been any 'progress' in germanians.. only: degression.. *Sadly.* (its true.) ..one'warmongarin'nation. - Like Putler's.. (as WE *all* CAN see it, ukraina *war* ..sad, and True.)

[@tobytoxd]

It's better than the MAUS.

[@justicewarrior9187]

I seriously hope this is a joke

[@sinclair2469]

very nice, but useless in not enough quantities

[@jonny2954]

400?

[@nightwing.3378]

British must be ashamed with their equipment compared to Germany.

[@jonny2954]

They just buy German equipment these days.

[@audibleadventures9004]

Noice!

[@KoKissaki]

Now upgrade our 1000+ Marder 1‘s to a modern 2nd line APC support vehicle and the Bundeswehr is good to go. Why scrap everything?

[@hanswurst6712]

Good to go where?

[@comsubpac]

what do you want with 1000+ Marder 1 with no crews?

[@zhufortheimpaler4041]

1. no personnel to operate them. 2. Marder 1 is getting VERY old and the hulls and drive components are worn out beyond saving. They can have "a good second live" in Ukraine, but Marder is more or less in its final years. Metal Fatigue, wearing out fittings etc etc. The last Marder was produced 50 years ago. The Bundeswehr is also replacing older Leopard 2´s due to age related metal fatigue etc.

[@skittlesbutwithchocolatein2274]

“pewma”

[@bennys4053]

Aber eine 200 Dollar Drohne zerstört das Ding

[@janspan100]

TAUGT.

[@nguyenhieu6731]

Terminator 3>>>>

[@dadab8547]

They barely entered into real combat and they were already destroyed, 2 yesterday, maybe more today.

[@nguyenhieu6731]

@@dadab8547 fake new nazi

[@dreghf]

give these to Ukraine!

[@Falltangle]

gotta sort out that editing, awful

[@2.Cuzzzz]

Just buy the CV90........................

[@KingSpittusFactus]

its worse

[@2.Cuzzzz]

@@KingSpittusFactus nope

[@KingSpittusFactus]

@@2.Cuzzzz puma has better armor better gun is faster and has better BMS and IDZ connection to the troops

[@2.Cuzzzz]

@@KingSpittusFactus The puma has slighly better armot but, the newest cv90's have much better armor now. The gun puma use is only a 30 mm compeard to the Cv90s mighty 40MM. Sure it can shoot faster, but it can penetrate better then the cv90. The Cv90 is also COMBAT PROVEN, something i have noticed a lot of people don't know. So it works in combat and that is much better then having a none tested Puma........................

[@KingSpittusFactus]

@@2.Cuzzzz your gay cv90 uses a ww2 gun. And the combat proven part... wow it fought some guys in sandals

[@iliketocommentonstuff8463]

Time to make some EMPs

[@comsubpac]

as every military system the Puma is hardened againt EMP.

[@davman115]

Build more quickly! NATO could be needing them very soon!

[@zhufortheimpaler4041]

current production: 20 per year, only for the german army.

[@msvergara]

Send a few of them to Ukraina

[@kopboch6216]

And now it’s outdated

[@minimax9452]

why?

[@MariaMartin-q8d]

Martin Michelle Rodriguez Joseph Allen Paul

[@jos3064]

Make a new Panther and Tiger.

[@tanks6868]

there are more women or men in the German army?🇩🇪 Answer please 🖐

[@stiffchocolate7546]

No

[@dezah8360]

Men like all armies

[@tonyaughney8945]

Who the fu¢k cares. Of course there aren't.

[@tanks6868]

@@tonyaughney8945 hi i am just asking!

[@Leo-pz5ge]

Don't you always ask this question?

[@soundknight]

Still blows up when you hit it with a tank buster.

[@akatheboy1071]

Does it

[@HingerlAlois]

Well that’s why you try to avoid getting hit ;-) It has in the latest version with MUSS an active protection system that automatically creates a smoke barrier and deploys an infrared jammer to mess up the guidance of ATGMs. Thus it’s quite capable of avoiding getting hit by ATGMs from long distances.

[@someone-om8dn]

And the boxer? And the bradley? And any other IFV?

[@ca9968]

China thanks you for this i9nformation...

[@davidhouseman4328]

You think a country with a $15tr economy doesn't have even a moderate spy agency?

[@ca9968]

@@davidhouseman4328 oh I know that, but splashing it all over KZbin really isn`t a great idea...

[@davidhouseman4328]

@@ca9968 Why is it not a good idea? It's info that would be a doddle to get hold of. Anything even remotely secret isn't included.

[@ca9968]

@@davidhouseman4328 clearly you`ve never played Poker...never ever show your cards!

[@austrolouis124]

This is literally all public info

[@julogames1534]

Germany must buy Borsuk BWP from Polish

[@kronos4136]

Individual stealth and special ops will always win the day over optics and tech. These things are simply another target for Apache ! I'll be more impressed Germany when you start using the Deutschmark again !

[@kriegscommissarmccraw4205]

The only thing it has over a Bradley is a comm link. Who's gonna win? Five bradleys or one puma? It probably do good against Chinese and Russian stuff

[@davidclemens1921]

@@kriegscommissarmccraw4205 except it is armor is much better, uses a Fire and Forget ATGM and has air burst munitions in its main gun (dont think Bradley uses those). But you are right, high numbers are going to win individual engagements. But for irregular warfare the added optics, armament and armor might be a huge boost to survivability and combat effectiveness.

[@gOtze1337]

everything is a target in war, i dont get where ppl. get the idea from that a tank/armored vehicle has to be invincible to be usefull.... u could also argue that an apache is just another target for an MANPAD, SPAAG and what not, hell the USA lost Apaches to rifle fire in Iraq. so they changed completely their doctrine and dont use AH´s as an offensive weapon anymore. there is still need for armored vehicles, or how else do u cross wide open fields without cover? and btw. even if a vehicle is only protected against small arms and artillery fragements, that is pretty much 90% of the threats u face on the battlefield. real life is not like a PC game where u quickly spawn with an AT weapon, ATGM`s are realitve rare in most infantry squads. and if they would model tanks realisticly in arcadei'sh games like Battlefield etc. u wouldnt have much fun as an food soldier, hands down.

[@dexteros5770]

Serbian Lazanski IFV is much better