Pump-Drill Primitive Fire (best-design)

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Tom McElroy-Wild Survival

Tom McElroy-Wild Survival

Күн бұрын

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@katrinan942
@katrinan942 10 жыл бұрын
I ended up being an EMT for a survival school and after three days of watching students try to make fire from the fire bow. It was more powerful than me... I couldn't shut up any more. so I got my supplies and during lunch break I showed the class including the instructors . the counter weight pump drill. I told them different areas in the world might have dryer wood where a bow drill or even a friction fire might work. but in a wet area the pump drill will get so hot it will start a fire. you can scale it up or down and they still work. available materials will determine the size, and the pump drill is much easier on you're cordage/ laces/ rope/ roots . the bow drill causes a lot of heat and stress in the rope
@EvertfromNederland
@EvertfromNederland 4 жыл бұрын
This awnsers all my questions thank you
@doctorbea
@doctorbea 8 жыл бұрын
This counterweight is a great nuance. It is extremely hard to primitively create a hole in a round rock and very time consuming to bake a clay counterweight. Thanks for the video.
@PetterRivera
@PetterRivera 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much brother for the video! I am from Colombia South America here for the indigenous communities it is very important to produce the sacred fire in this way in fact it is called "origin fire" or "original fire" and this is always used in this way for important rituals or ceremonies with power plants , word circles, etc... Fire is considered something sacred, it is also a grandfather, the oldest in the Universe! Thank you
@Outdoorpro72
@Outdoorpro72 5 ай бұрын
Aweeome man! What part of Colombia? My wife is from Cali and we are planning on visiting soon would be great to get together with other bushcrafters while there
@PetterRivera
@PetterRivera 5 ай бұрын
@@Outdoorpro72 super... actually I live in Cali jejej would be really nice to get in touch...
@reyscottm9
@reyscottm9 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. You could tell at the beginning that your design tweak was an improvement on the dynamics. I love how you made a replaceable plug to avoid having to rebuild the whole assembly. Nicely done!
@davidstarr6604
@davidstarr6604 7 жыл бұрын
Easiest friction fire method I have ever seen anyone use on KZbin. I gotta try this myself. Thanks for posting.
@CAMO-hb8wc
@CAMO-hb8wc 9 жыл бұрын
Best I have seen so far!
@annaleebliss4618
@annaleebliss4618 4 жыл бұрын
I love that plug idea at the tip of the spindle. Tom is a pretty clever survivalist
@edwardsanford5775
@edwardsanford5775 9 жыл бұрын
With a flint tip I'd bet that drill could bore holes. Excellent design.
@__-pl3jg
@__-pl3jg 5 жыл бұрын
Edward Sanford - I was thinking the same thing. With removable tips that thing could be used for all kinds of stuff.
@brucedavis8736
@brucedavis8736 6 жыл бұрын
I'm An old Native Canadian and was cool to see the addition to the pump drill ..Respect!
@GetMeThere1
@GetMeThere1 8 жыл бұрын
A work of genius! A beautiful thing to see. Thanks for sharing this!
@stevendoornbos4272
@stevendoornbos4272 9 жыл бұрын
So much more practical than trying to find sandstone to use as the counterweight. Thanks for the valuable information.
@exgenica
@exgenica 8 жыл бұрын
You can remove the spindle's tapering requirement by providing a cross-pin (either below or through the "counterweight" assembly) and lashing the counterweight assembly to the spindle at that point. It is less robust if the assembly is struck while rotating, but it can make it easier/faster to construct when starting quickly the fire is important. If you have an opportunity to update the video, you might also talk a little bit about methods to balance the "counterweight" (e.g. sliding rocks in/out along the assembly), or a method of determining the center-of-mass point in order to drill the hole in the right place for an arbitrary placement and varying size/mass of rocks. (btw, thanks for proper centripetal v. centrifugal)
@gregry111
@gregry111 4 жыл бұрын
This is an excellent method. I made one similar to this one and had tremendous success. This type of weight is much more effective than the typical round flywheel and is much easier to make.
@philipjean1086
@philipjean1086 Жыл бұрын
None of will ever probably use our survival skills but it’s so good to have mostly for are mental health the feeling of doing something with nothing is indescribable great video really enjoyed it
@Querencias7
@Querencias7 8 жыл бұрын
Most EXCELLENT. Kudos for the apparatus as well as for the very practical demo. Many thanks.
@wraith696969
@wraith696969 8 жыл бұрын
Tom, I don't know why this hasn't popped up before but you reinvented the wheel on this concept. My Scouts will love this! BTW, great idea with the detachable burner plug. Thanks
@ExAF1N1
@ExAF1N1 2 жыл бұрын
Watched your vid a couple times, and finally got an ember and blew it into flame tonight. Yet to have the same success with bow drill, but pretty much prefer this. More work to set up, but more chance of success. Thanks for the vid!
@WayPointSurvival
@WayPointSurvival 6 жыл бұрын
That's a great improvement over the "standard model" as it were. Thanks for the info.
@Ntwadumela
@Ntwadumela 8 жыл бұрын
much better and accessible in a raw situation, as you said, than the wheel design. Genius solution... Thank you.
@curtishest7493
@curtishest7493 8 жыл бұрын
best drill I have seen and very simple to make great job man
@abcstardust
@abcstardust 10 ай бұрын
Truly ingenious! Thank you for sharing this design!
@LoneWolf543
@LoneWolf543 2 жыл бұрын
awesome design for the pump drill, Thanks for sharing !
@shaunmcdaniels2460
@shaunmcdaniels2460 4 жыл бұрын
Well Done!!! I like the way you developed the rock counterweight.... Makes perfect sense!!!!
@alhemphill8296
@alhemphill8296 23 күн бұрын
Excellent design! Bravo Zulu!!
@MostWantedOHA
@MostWantedOHA 10 жыл бұрын
Nice Tom , simple and to the point .
@צביקהכהן-ס4ע
@צביקהכהן-ס4ע 4 жыл бұрын
I am really impressed by your new design.
@pappafritto
@pappafritto 4 жыл бұрын
Im taking my hat off. Thanks for the inspiration! Long years to live
@charlesloveday9208
@charlesloveday9208 8 жыл бұрын
It's highly unlikely that n today's world that we wouldn't have access to some kind of way to drill holes& can see how easy it is to make the counterweight n Ur design. If there's one thing I've found out & that's knowledge is gold...keep up the great videos.
@Stephen069able
@Stephen069able 8 жыл бұрын
you definitely solved my flywheel problem. thank you sir and good job.
@reginaldmorlinamaral
@reginaldmorlinamaral 9 жыл бұрын
Awesome video....those guys who participate of Discovery Channel Naked And Afraid should see this so their time in the jungle would not be that bad
@PuffinSmurf
@PuffinSmurf 9 жыл бұрын
It's already on there in a Mexico episode
@thebeat5507
@thebeat5507 9 жыл бұрын
+Michael DeMarois the cordage is availabal.....ive made it using vines
@theprayer1284
@theprayer1284 11 ай бұрын
This dude Making the video was on that show but don't think he made the pump drill there.
@RavenAung13
@RavenAung13 8 жыл бұрын
Holy smoke! what a brilliant idea!
@oBseSsIoNPC
@oBseSsIoNPC 8 жыл бұрын
so simple and so cool, love it, well done! Thank you!
@marknthetrails7627
@marknthetrails7627 2 жыл бұрын
I like seeing you use privative skills but adding sound thought out improvements. This is one I'll definitely be trying 👍✌🥃
@gregorybiggs2068
@gregorybiggs2068 7 жыл бұрын
This looks excellent, Tom. Very good modification, too! I learn a lot from your videos. Thanks!
@TheOnlyArtifex
@TheOnlyArtifex 6 жыл бұрын
I love the fact that you're just in jeans and a t-shirt. Quite different from other survival experts. Great demonstration, awesome stuff!
@noahburkhardt9316
@noahburkhardt9316 6 жыл бұрын
really cool idea with the bottom piece of wood and the stones
@jonathanquiles82
@jonathanquiles82 4 жыл бұрын
Clever, and absolutely spectacular!
@Woodsman_wildcamper
@Woodsman_wildcamper 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Tom, a friend put me onto you. This is brilliant, mate, I like the counter idea, much simpler than trying to bore through a stone. Thanks for sharing, buddy, take care.
@banditquest4756
@banditquest4756 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your knowledge. Your Pump Drill design works faster and more smoothly than any other that I have seen, plus It looks like it could be made in a primitive situation with no more than a good solid Knife.
@martonhegedus2684
@martonhegedus2684 Ай бұрын
Magnifique..., the two symmetric counterweight idea is the best.... ;)
@lirnerpublishingnotes
@lirnerpublishingnotes 2 жыл бұрын
You see, you absolutely did it ,much better result compared to the light weight version, really like the replaceable douwl at the bottom ,I guess if you wanted to ,you could make the top douwl longer and replaceable too, well to possibly ad downward weight incrementally, outstanding effort , YOU are awesome😏🏅
@Vietnamcamping89
@Vietnamcamping89 5 жыл бұрын
Best stuff i've seen ever
@ivandivandakor
@ivandivandakor 9 жыл бұрын
whomever discovered this he must be a genius
@Penultimate_Jive
@Penultimate_Jive 8 жыл бұрын
The people whom discovered this died thousands of years ago. PS: It's good to know someone knows the difference between who and whom.
@BadCookWhoJudgesChefs
@BadCookWhoJudgesChefs 6 жыл бұрын
Its whoever in this case.
@angelus_solus
@angelus_solus 5 жыл бұрын
I could not agree more. whoever came up with this, thousands of years ago, was a genius. This person is not. He simply took an already existing idea and tweaked it a bit with a different counterweight arm design. In fact, his design is flawed with how much mass there is. It takes so much force to get into motion that it's not worth the trouble of adding stones. The wood arm itself would provide enough mass to keep it in motion.
@mason4761
@mason4761 5 жыл бұрын
-Neanderthal 1200 BC
@sigma6656
@sigma6656 4 жыл бұрын
much like the sword, the bow & arrow, spear, etc. this device was likely invented independently innumerable times.
@kaitlynendsley6126
@kaitlynendsley6126 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Very informative and explanatory and the camera quality is 10/10. Best video out there!
@jonkeathley3772
@jonkeathley3772 5 жыл бұрын
Nice wicked design
@R.B.Bricks
@R.B.Bricks 7 жыл бұрын
Great design! Thanks for the video!
@JasonasaurausRex
@JasonasaurausRex 9 жыл бұрын
I love this. I love testing myself making fires in as many crazy ways as possible. If I ever get a chance, I'm so making one of these. Nothing better than carving your tools from the surrounding woods. Here's a fun one, just by the way, try finding some good string alternative, and then carving your own crochet needle. It's much easier than it sounds.
@bowins7895
@bowins7895 9 жыл бұрын
i like your design, I have seen the stone and wood disk designs and in the rough they are hard to reproduce. but this is easily reproduced in the wild with a knife and some cordage. nice work.
@wildsurvivalskills
@wildsurvivalskills 9 жыл бұрын
Bo Wins thanks for sharing.
@angelus_solus
@angelus_solus 5 жыл бұрын
@Bo: Ever heard of taking two stout sticks, carving a half round notch in the centre of each one and lashing them to the spindle? Try it. It works.
@Lifesongadventuressurvivalcamp
@Lifesongadventuressurvivalcamp 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent Tom. Thanks for sharing this great design.
@realmister7
@realmister7 6 жыл бұрын
All of this can be done without a knife if you really needed to - the replaceable tip is an excellent idea. Saving energy in a long term survival situ cant be underestimated. I'll give it a go.
@unictic_mane
@unictic_mane 6 жыл бұрын
I love you your the best survivalest
@johnlbales2773
@johnlbales2773 9 жыл бұрын
Great innovation. Thor from B.C. would be impressed. Replaceable bit. Smart.
@uksurvival2691
@uksurvival2691 6 жыл бұрын
This is a really neat design, I will look at making one of these for my up coming courses this summer.
@jamesporter6288
@jamesporter6288 5 жыл бұрын
Cody Lundin patented the barefoot survival mode
@ironwill4706
@ironwill4706 4 жыл бұрын
Wwooww.. extremely impressive
@car5534
@car5534 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks Tom. This design was great n it sets me thinking. Very good work there n thanks again for sharing.
@WhiskyTrekker
@WhiskyTrekker 9 жыл бұрын
Awesome...I made one once while working for the Minnesota Historical Society... Used a single stone drilled piece of oak as my weight...your weight is genius!
@wildsurvivalskills
@wildsurvivalskills 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! Ive never thought much of pump drills until this design, it works really well with tons of power. Thanks for watching.
@AFCAWorldBodybuildingArchive
@AFCAWorldBodybuildingArchive 6 жыл бұрын
The stones spinning at the speed of light next to his crown jewels... That cord better be strong :D But besides that, this id a GREAT video. Awesome video and audio qualit, clear voice and an overall positive attitude here.
@angelus_solus
@angelus_solus 5 жыл бұрын
The stones on the drill aren't worth the danger to the stones on his, well, yeah. The wood arm itself is heavy enough to keep the affair spinning as you pump it.
@bahrisean9116
@bahrisean9116 6 жыл бұрын
Totaly best design
@2thewilderness
@2thewilderness 7 жыл бұрын
Absolutely brilliant.
@mark-mayhem
@mark-mayhem 3 жыл бұрын
Yip thats a keeper. Thank you
@johnplyler7054
@johnplyler7054 3 жыл бұрын
You are one COOL Dude! Wish I could remember half of what you are teaching!
@andrewkobierski4543
@andrewkobierski4543 10 жыл бұрын
That flywheel is great dude, I've never seen that before
@ducagace1390
@ducagace1390 5 жыл бұрын
Hand drill, then bow drill for more efficienty, then pump bow drill for the most efficent design. Your design is well thought, the removable plug in the end is clever and the 2 rock to increase rotational inertia too, easy to assemble in the wild. Mine would be in some man-made material (aluminium probably) for durability, but your concept is perfect.
@abidzarhuda7335
@abidzarhuda7335 3 жыл бұрын
Bikin videonya kurang panjang bosskuuuuh... Asik liatnya.
@OZMS1518
@OZMS1518 7 жыл бұрын
Great design.
@sonyaarmitage5485
@sonyaarmitage5485 9 жыл бұрын
This would be great for those with less strength. I would encourage this design for them.
@pershop4950
@pershop4950 4 жыл бұрын
Less strength but also as we see in some survival shows, when you're tired and hungry, you may not have the energy to sustain a bow drill or hand drill for 50-90 seconds or more or apply pressure to create a strong friction contact. This kind of design helps alleviate the need for that.
@martinadejaquiz2482
@martinadejaquiz2482 9 жыл бұрын
that's seriously cool! thanks!
@tombourgault6990
@tombourgault6990 6 жыл бұрын
Love the new design on the pump drill:-)🌴🌊🌴
@MyDom55
@MyDom55 8 жыл бұрын
Belle vidéo . Bravo Dom. .
@Trax2able
@Trax2able 7 жыл бұрын
Really nice idea
@dwaynerobertson383
@dwaynerobertson383 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, Tom. Thanks for sharing man. Much appreciated. That softwood plug is seriously innovative. Gonna' attempt to make one of these next time I get out for a 2 or 3 day camp. All the best to ya'!!
@deangermeten5629
@deangermeten5629 8 жыл бұрын
OK as for the pump handle, have you ever thought that could be two sticks also or one split stick with spreader pieces near the middle? ...the ends, fastened with grass, cordage or root twine. That could be cobbled faster than drilling a hole through the pump handle. Also the counter-weight/flywheel piece could have the spindle pass between the split, again with spreader pieces and shims to make up the gaps and again, saving the time it takes to drill a hole. How did you hollow out the spindle end?
@benkle3000
@benkle3000 4 жыл бұрын
literally a knife is all you need to drill basic holes like that. easy peasy, just takes a little time.
@BillM1960
@BillM1960 8 жыл бұрын
You must have put a lot of thought in this. great idea!
@oddduck2298
@oddduck2298 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome. I love your videos. They are always full of valuable knowledge. BTW, would love to see you on Alone!
@devongrey48
@devongrey48 2 жыл бұрын
That’s a awesome modification instead of the flywheel and I believe the can create more counter forces it’s not unlike how a spaceship can use the earth’s gravitational force to slingshot itself into space there is more tech in your design than you think,ancient and modern.👍🏼
@deyongutube
@deyongutube 4 жыл бұрын
That's neat & easiest way to make fire ;))
@jessejames3099
@jessejames3099 4 жыл бұрын
First: brilliant! Second: design mod idea-hmm, it might be dangerous to get one's shin too close to the spinning stones, could you simply tie some natural padding near the (rock holding) split stick ends, in case of a foot slipping & shin moving into their path? Would likely prevent a cut or nasty bruise. Mostly unnecessary, but if using often it might be worth having for that one time someone slips...I guess you could also shorten the length of the counter weights but double them up (two pairs of stones, in same or different supports)...
@myhobby7086
@myhobby7086 6 жыл бұрын
Great job!
@panzalarga
@panzalarga 6 жыл бұрын
It seems you could save a lot of time in building it by splitting the handle, carving a channel for the spindle in each half and binding it back together, rather than drilling a hole through the whole handle. An excellent video.
@ramonmendez9803
@ramonmendez9803 5 жыл бұрын
Love your videos
@MrsBBoucher1986
@MrsBBoucher1986 9 жыл бұрын
Totally enjoyed watching... interesting design!!!
@jorgere1
@jorgere1 9 жыл бұрын
thanks for share my friend, very very good hi from México.
@jasonbrown5263
@jasonbrown5263 5 жыл бұрын
That was an awesome video
@michaelzimmerman8959
@michaelzimmerman8959 5 жыл бұрын
That is genius! Thanks Tom and a Happy New Year
@larrypreston7588
@larrypreston7588 9 жыл бұрын
Great idea with the hollowing shaft to add and remove tips.
@Gozerthegozarian1984
@Gozerthegozarian1984 2 жыл бұрын
Great video
@silverschooner5821
@silverschooner5821 9 жыл бұрын
This is wonderful. It's given me an idea! Subscribed!
@NorthSurvival
@NorthSurvival 8 жыл бұрын
Man that´s pretty awesome, i need to make a video about this.
@whynottalklikeapirat
@whynottalklikeapirat 6 жыл бұрын
But ... he already did ....
@sailman9454
@sailman9454 3 жыл бұрын
Why obviously you just learned this method. Maybe you should make videos on something you know how to do.
@suoppsdn9751
@suoppsdn9751 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe make a video how to make something like this in a survival situation where you have only a multi-tool knife. How to use the yucca plant to make the twine need to make this type of pump drill since he didn't describe how to make it. This type of pump drill has been made before anyway
@greggsouthard3940
@greggsouthard3940 9 жыл бұрын
Good Job...Thanks
@curcumin417
@curcumin417 7 ай бұрын
Very nice 👌
@marwanayman6841
@marwanayman6841 8 жыл бұрын
perfect design
@PYE172
@PYE172 8 жыл бұрын
very good video i will be makeing one
@toshioikene8200
@toshioikene8200 6 жыл бұрын
Genius man. Keep the vids going bro, love them.
@WalkWild
@WalkWild 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome man, I like the 2 rocks between wood idea, smart man!
@EazzyBeezie
@EazzyBeezie 2 жыл бұрын
Tom M is a badass
@galaxyhunter8082
@galaxyhunter8082 9 жыл бұрын
That was f**king awsome
@bobtaylor9959
@bobtaylor9959 9 жыл бұрын
I've been a keen bushcrafter for many years. Why have I never try ed this method.? will do and let you know how I got on. Peace always Bob
@slowbass
@slowbass Жыл бұрын
Awesome! thanks man
@rhhowden1
@rhhowden1 7 жыл бұрын
Great video, you are doing some great work. Keep it up.
@bobpeters61
@bobpeters61 2 жыл бұрын
I was very impressed with the ingenuity of the removable plug so you don't have to replace the entire spindle. One question about that, though. How do you keep the plug from spinning in the spindle as well as the fire board, which would wear out the spindle and waste friction in the wrong place?
@tommiller9743
@tommiller9743 2 жыл бұрын
Instead of making a round mortise and tenon joint, make them oval so the one won't turn in the other.
@wildsurvivalskills
@wildsurvivalskills 2 жыл бұрын
sorry i dont check these often, I basically pegged it in place by sticking small 'toothpick sized sticks in it
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