Punch-Out!! (NES) - Debunking the Difficulty

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Ryu

Ryu

Күн бұрын

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@54raynor
@54raynor 2 жыл бұрын
The first 90 seconds of the Tyson fight is simultaneously the toughest part of any boss fight on the NES and the most realistic sports moment on the NES.
@Eralen00
@Eralen00 Жыл бұрын
going up against iron mike tyson, sounds about right
@14spokenwords
@14spokenwords Жыл бұрын
especially since tyson took literally 90 seconds to be KO Michael Spinks and Carl the Truth Williams lol..
@SirJoelsuf1
@SirJoelsuf1 Жыл бұрын
@@14spokenwords It would have been cool if for the 1990 remake where they swap Tyson for Mr Dream, they put in famous opponents that Tyson beat down in the mid to late 80s. Would have been a nice touch. I always thought that you're almost playing AS Tyson in this. Like Mac is a white version of Tyson lol. Tyson started his professional career at 17 and Mac is 17, Mac is from New York and so is Tyson, both had REALLY good trainers (I think Doc Louis is a reference to someone on Muhammad Ali's team or something?), no one had any real expectations for Tyson when he started, the scouting reports on him weren't too impressive.
@14spokenwords
@14spokenwords Жыл бұрын
@@SirJoelsuf1 ho Lee mindblown
@GuardianAngel..
@GuardianAngel.. Жыл бұрын
I Beat Mike Tyson all the time but for some strange reason I can’t beat Glass Joe
@Chamberz55
@Chamberz55 2 жыл бұрын
5:10 I was today years old when I noticed Don Flamenco is listed as "Age 23." Look at dude's face - he had a rough life. Great vid.
@modeizm5891
@modeizm5891 4 ай бұрын
Much mileage.
@mediocreatbest9176
@mediocreatbest9176 2 жыл бұрын
The NES version of Punch-Out!! almost feels a puzzle game disguised as a boxing game, and it has a shockingly large amount of depth to it once you take a look at the various strategies that speedrunners use. Easily one of the greatest NES game of all time.
@opaljk4835
@opaljk4835 2 жыл бұрын
By that metric, aren’t all games puzzle games?
@NYCHeavyHitz212
@NYCHeavyHitz212 2 жыл бұрын
@@opaljk4835 to different degrees.
@iami3rian394
@iami3rian394 Жыл бұрын
Much, much, much closer to the first rhythm game, than a puzzle game.
@pullt
@pullt Жыл бұрын
​@@iami3rian394 I see it as less of a "rhythm game" or "puzzle game" and more of a "press buttons at the correct time in response to audio-visual cues in order to accomplish the task the game asks of you" game....
@iami3rian394
@iami3rian394 Жыл бұрын
@@pullt you have described every video game ever.
@endlessoul
@endlessoul 2 жыл бұрын
This series is really good at making me remember how badly I struggled with hard games back in the day.
@dimwarlock
@dimwarlock 2 жыл бұрын
I find it weird when people says they "struggle" with a game, because the only times that I feel struggle when playing a videogame is when I don't like them or I'm burned out, which is the point of "stop playing, it's not worth it".
@nikoladedovic4853
@nikoladedovic4853 2 жыл бұрын
@@dimwarlock Struggle in the context of the above comment means they had a tough time getting though the game. That doesn't automatically mean they were burned out or didn't like the game. Just that they didn't progress much as they hoped for (maybe for the difficult or something else). The example being for me is Battletoads, it was a struggle to get through the game, not because of anything else, but just for the difficulty. Maybe you don't agree that people should use that word for something that is difficult, but what can you do. Please excuse my poor english, it's not my native language.
@jedcauffield1858
@jedcauffield1858 2 жыл бұрын
@@dimwarlock Nikola is right, we’re all different ages when we play games, and growing up 80s unless you knew a gamer, were just good at picking up cues or clues,or had Nintendo Power strats, we struggled having young brains 🧠 & just a hulking giant like Bald Bull or Tyson was intimidating in itself 😢😅. We’re also having the 8bit time of our lives even renting games or lucky if we could have allowance to buy them, or get parents to gift them
@Chance71121
@Chance71121 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact of the second fight with Bald Bull, there is still a visional queue to hit him during the Bull Charge. The bearded man to the left of Bald Bull will “nod” and that’s the timing to hit him.
@baldbro3693
@baldbro3693 2 жыл бұрын
Shh… don’t tell them my secret!
@garyhall7867
@garyhall7867 2 жыл бұрын
I just count the jumps, third sound I punch, works every time. They try to throw you off with the echo on the bounces, but it's easy when you get it down
@DemureDave
@DemureDave 2 жыл бұрын
You're thinking of Piston Honda. For Bald Bull, it's the camera flash.
@Chance71121
@Chance71121 2 жыл бұрын
@@DemureDave Watch back at the second Bald Bull fight 15:13 when he charges and you will see the bearded man nods as well.
@andrewb6417
@andrewb6417 2 жыл бұрын
Second bald bull can't be KOd
@rubenabrego6762
@rubenabrego6762 2 жыл бұрын
Mike Tyson's Punch Out is like a life long beat , meaning it took me years till I finally told myself when I was like 15 or 16 years old told myself Mike is going down tonight I don't care how long it takes and a few grueling hours later he was done but I could get to him and sometimes come close but could never beat him, until that night, it's like it all of a sudden dawned on me that I just had to put all the strats together and make it happen 💪😉
@snakyYT
@snakyYT Жыл бұрын
I'm 16 rn and I am having trouble with sandman
@hellfire66683
@hellfire66683 2 жыл бұрын
Never really realized at the time how much of an achievement it was to beat this as a kid back in the 80's
@christco120
@christco120 2 жыл бұрын
Me neither! I used to ho-stomp my way through this game. I dominated Tyson's ass! Probably more of a testament to the fact that I played it waaaay too much more than anything
@hellfire66683
@hellfire66683 2 жыл бұрын
@@christco120 same
@ninjacrumbs
@ninjacrumbs Жыл бұрын
Just last week I asked my best friend since kindergarten "do you remember when you beat King Hippo?" I was sleeping over at his house (maybe 13 years old) we were struggling through the game. I passed out and he kept on playing. His father was a janitor at a local school and did 4:00am clean up at a strip mall next door on the weekends, which we helped with. I can never forget how excited he was, in the morning dark, picking up garbage, explaining how he beat King Hippo. THAT was gaming!!
@jaybee1158
@jaybee1158 Жыл бұрын
Man all of us that were kids in the 80’s, smh it was hard as hell to beat a lot of these “NES” games. Kids these days and ones that were born in the time frame of when the internet was a thing to look up stuff.. those kids be like “ oh hell yeah it was hard” and trying to claim as if there in are era. We didn’t have the opportunity to look up codes and etc. we had to rely on kids who had the Nintendo magazines or the kids who’s parents allowed to call the 1-800 number for help and tricks on games.. I remember you were the shit, top dawg if you beat certain games. It was a beautiful time if you were a kid in the 80’s.. God I wish we could go back sometimes.. I think it’s kinda stupid they took off iron Mike from the game I know why but still isn’t the same.. this guy especially in are era it be like who the hell is Mr.Dream that game wouldn’t have been as badass as it was it was “Mike Tyson” that had that title that who you bragged about beating..
@floppyinc2968
@floppyinc2968 Жыл бұрын
Infinite bragging rights
@ShinAkuma76
@ShinAkuma76 2 жыл бұрын
Ryu, for the second Bald Bull fight, the indicator for when to punch during his bull charge isn't the camera flash, it is the bearded guy on the front row on the left side of the screen. He will duck his head down when it is time for you to strike. He is the 5th audience member from the left in the front row.
@robfrancois
@robfrancois 2 жыл бұрын
Also if you dodge the first, he only backs up halfway and it's easier to punch him in the gut
@ShinAkuma76
@ShinAkuma76 2 жыл бұрын
@@robfrancois True, once he starts his bill charge he goes into an endless loop that only has 4 available outcomes. 1. Knock you down 2. Get knocked down 3. Miss and repeat or 4. Time runs out for the round.
@joebeezy9471
@joebeezy9471 Жыл бұрын
Strangely enough that audience member doesn’t even move in this video…I was watching and waiting for it but it never happened. Then I realized it’s in the second fight. Came here to see if anyone else knew about this.
@ShinAkuma76
@ShinAkuma76 Жыл бұрын
@@joebeezy9471 If I remember right, that same audience member is an indicator for Super Macho Man’s quick spin punch as well.
@dripp_dropp
@dripp_dropp 11 ай бұрын
@@ShinAkuma76different guy, for macho its the sunglasses
@precorps
@precorps 2 жыл бұрын
Love the update to the Debunking format. Your analysis at the end is a welcome addition. It keeps the format fresh and it also opens so many more titles up for investigation.
@deavenhendrix
@deavenhendrix 2 жыл бұрын
Love to see new retro content from Ryu
@70snowman
@70snowman 2 жыл бұрын
Please bring more of this series! It is the absolute best.
@brentchayka4093
@brentchayka4093 2 жыл бұрын
Fun trivia It is said that glass Joe's one win is against Mike Tyson himself According to tyson, before release, he was shown the game and allowed to play through it to see if it met his approval. Tyson was so awful at the game he was knocked out by glass Joe and couldn't demo the game further Apparently the developers through in the 1 win in glass Joe's record as a little reference to that Sourced from Tyson's Reddit AMA
@ddanipea
@ddanipea 3 ай бұрын
that's insane
@whirl3690
@whirl3690 28 күн бұрын
This is not true! It is true that Mike Tyson lost to Glass Joe, but Joe had his 1-99 record ever since his first appearance in the original arcade game. A programmer would go on to say in an issue of The Official Nintendo Magazine that his 1 win was against Nick Bruiser, the final boss of Super Punch-Out on the SNES/Super Famicom.
@matthillier7067
@matthillier7067 2 жыл бұрын
Love your new approach to the series. It was a nice little surprise to hear it CANT be debunked. Enjoyed watching this a ton
@BraveParagon
@BraveParagon 2 жыл бұрын
I played this game repeatedly for an entire summer as a kid. There are definitely a ton of strats for it but it's just more fun to challenge your own reaction time. Loved this one!
@kriogenic1923
@kriogenic1923 2 жыл бұрын
I really like this new format. Not all games will be debunked but a concise analysis at the end to reason why gives a lot more options for content then only making a definitive "Oh yeah, I debunked this game" video. Looking forward to much more of these.
@Satsui_No_Hado
@Satsui_No_Hado Жыл бұрын
This is without question my favorite series on KZbin. I'm glad you keep doing them. Please never stop. You always have such a great personality. You bring such good vibes and it's fun to watch you game, especially on these retro games. If you haven't done it yet, I'd love to see you do battletoads.
@identitywithheld4327
@identitywithheld4327 Жыл бұрын
The Great Tiger’s turban blinks before he throws a punch. If you punch him BEFORE he throws a punch, it’s an immediate star. He’s also a sucker for body shots when he crouches.
@luisr.mercador.2725
@luisr.mercador.2725 Жыл бұрын
This game without Mike Tyson's faces means nothing to me.😅
@firestar4430
@firestar4430 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! Would love to see you attempt Bionic Commando or Zelda 2. I know they're longer games, but Zelda 2, Bionic Commando, and punch out are my favorite NES games. Would love to see the trifecta.
@hayesblake
@hayesblake 2 жыл бұрын
Ryu did zelda 2 many moons ago, I’m sure of it. Edit : Yeah it was part of his extraordinarily hard games compilation on his main ryukahr channel. Deffo worth checking out
@firestar4430
@firestar4430 2 жыл бұрын
@@hayesblake I've seen that one, he didn't get very far though. I want to see him return to it for debunking like he did with ghosts and goblins
@hayesblake
@hayesblake 2 жыл бұрын
@@firestar4430 yeah it’s true he never finished it but thought it was at least mentioning in case you weren’t aware of the vid. 👍🏻
@unhappimess
@unhappimess 2 жыл бұрын
This was quality content. I like the inquisitive approach and the analysis at the end.
@beatchef
@beatchef 2 жыл бұрын
In the original arcade Punch Out you were a normal sized dude in scale with the other boxers and you were wireframe and transparent so that you can see what the other boxer is doing. The NES was much less powerful and couldn't do any of that and so they made your character tiny instead.
@charlesnelson3660
@charlesnelson3660 2 жыл бұрын
God that game was great... so many quarters!
@BuildLego
@BuildLego 2 жыл бұрын
It went that way on the SNES version
@CodaBlair
@CodaBlair 2 жыл бұрын
And thanks to that Lil Mac was born
@kurrono
@kurrono 2 жыл бұрын
Guys wanna play arcade punchout . Play Mame..
@opaljk4835
@opaljk4835 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly the arcade is not very fun compared to the NES or SNES games
@DemureDave
@DemureDave 2 жыл бұрын
Here's a little bit of trivial knowledge about the theme music of Punchout. The jingle was for a TV show called Gillette Cavalcade of Sports, and the jingle was called "Look Sharp/Be Sharp March". It has lyrics and all!
@jedcauffield1858
@jedcauffield1858 2 жыл бұрын
Look Sharp Be Sharp March ok thanks
@AugieMcCloud
@AugieMcCloud 2 жыл бұрын
Uppercut his stupid face is the best line in entire episode haha lol good job ryu.
@joshuasalley1948
@joshuasalley1948 2 жыл бұрын
This game is the game that made me cry
@randallleddy4822
@randallleddy4822 Жыл бұрын
Your game room is legendary. An old Dad's dream. Great video on a great game!
@LumilusD
@LumilusD 2 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see you play the Wii Punchout. That game is underrated and has a ton of strategy and personality.
@TotPocket
@TotPocket 2 жыл бұрын
And the memes "Release the- Bogus!"
@rossrobertson674
@rossrobertson674 2 жыл бұрын
That's a really good game, he could also do super punch out
@RetroBubz
@RetroBubz 2 жыл бұрын
SO underrated!! Such a great sequel, faithful to the original punch out games while adding new “puzzle elements” to the fights. I wish they had a new game planned for the switch!
@AndrevusWhitetail
@AndrevusWhitetail 2 жыл бұрын
According to PunchOut! Lore, the only win Glass Joe has is against Nick Bruiser, the final boss of Super PunchOut on the SNES.
@Catdash5510
@Catdash5510 29 күн бұрын
i think it was rick bruiser, nick doesnt have any losses in the poster image and ingame
@Dr.UldenWascht
@Dr.UldenWascht 2 жыл бұрын
Great video and a trip down the memory lane. To my knowledge, similar buffer strats like the one was used against "Piston Honda" (20 RPs, 10 LDs, 9 LPs) exist for other matches as well. Of course, what you need to do differs from fight to fight but that's basically what allows the infamous 'blindfolded' runs to exist.
@Kazan0505
@Kazan0505 2 жыл бұрын
Love these man, cathartic for my nostalgic gaming difficulties on rentals.
@GoodNyew
@GoodNyew Жыл бұрын
These are the videos I’m subbed to this channel for, been waiting for you to get back to this game
@tskmaster3837
@tskmaster3837 2 жыл бұрын
Even after almost 40 years, the best advice and strat still is: Dodge his punch and counterpunch.
@andyq524
@andyq524 2 жыл бұрын
I freaking love the Fat Buu you have in the background. That's amazing!
@2ndBreakfassst
@2ndBreakfassst 2 жыл бұрын
Daaaaaang! I hadn't even considered this one for this series. I love it
@Satsui_No_Hado
@Satsui_No_Hado Ай бұрын
Back to the man, the myth, the legend, I really wish you'd do more of these. These were so good! I never saw this one so I'm excited to watch this as the old saying goes Christmas came early this year 😁
@RustyYork91
@RustyYork91 2 жыл бұрын
I think your new take on debunking the difficulty is smart. It will easily make this a more interesting series, and I already enjoyed this series.
@madsaltyskills
@madsaltyskills 2 жыл бұрын
L for playing Mr Dream Version instead of the Real Version with Tyson
@Kryptnyt
@Kryptnyt 2 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite NES soundtracks and games, it is difficult and if you are determined to beat Mike you're committing to learning his passcode by heart
@Joe-Angel
@Joe-Angel 2 жыл бұрын
The kitty cat makes a special guest appearance at 6:09 behind Ryu.
@robbiewalker2831
@robbiewalker2831 Жыл бұрын
25:11: That's not just a dude, that's Rocky Marciano! The change was made that way, because they were using a theme that was used for the Gillette Cavalcade of Sports; that theme being the "Look Sharp March".
@macdaddymario
@macdaddymario 4 ай бұрын
The change from Tyson was because he was convicted of rape in 92.. carts were still in production at that time and rape is a big no no for Nintendo. That's why he was changed.
@elvispressplay7735
@elvispressplay7735 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that new perspective to your approach on this series. The Silver Surfer Debunk is a bit hard because you basically say "don't ever get hit and you'll be fine" without ever exploring what happens if you DO get hit. That's not something most people can simply follow along. My suggestions for more episodes: Friday the 13th on NES and of course Goonies II!
@brettlinthicum6649
@brettlinthicum6649 2 жыл бұрын
please be quiet. dont tell people what to do. Also, there are thousands of other channels that have played these games and beat them. open your eyes and use your brain. stop being weird and loyal to some KZbinr.
@ianhellsing3327
@ianhellsing3327 2 жыл бұрын
yay I love these videos. Thank you for your hard work Ryu!
@Space-Holiday
@Space-Holiday 2 жыл бұрын
Great video as always! We need you to do Jekyll and Hyde!
@Dodogssaywooforruff
@Dodogssaywooforruff Жыл бұрын
I remember this channel called Kingdom Carts, and this guy had insane tutorials of Punch Out that was super in depth. It went as far as even saying which had to punch guys with based on how much health they lose. It was a strategy guide that taught speed run strategy and just strategies in general. One day the channel just disappeared, I have never been able to find these videos since either.
@brianschnetz1428
@brianschnetz1428 2 жыл бұрын
On The Great Tiger's fight, if you immediately punch him when the gem on his head flashes its a guarantee star. he usually goes down if you use the star soon as you get it
@robfrancois
@robfrancois 2 жыл бұрын
Also hit him in the gut as he goes for his uppercuts. When he bends down hit him in the gut and get stars.
@rockbandimfan
@rockbandimfan 2 жыл бұрын
My favorite NES game! I finally beat Tyson (Mr. Dream) about 4 years ago
@NeonZeonis
@NeonZeonis 2 жыл бұрын
I remember getting trashed by the later guys alot. I don't think I ever understood the buffering buttons or the speed punches. This was a great attempt at debunking this bunk.
@mrhentrich
@mrhentrich 2 жыл бұрын
Loving this series! Will always watch. Like the new format idea as well
@frankschuler2867
@frankschuler2867 Жыл бұрын
Punch-Out is one of my absolute favorite NES games. To this day, I have never beaten it. I can get to Tyson/Mr. Dream…but I’ve never even gotten close to beating him. The difficulty increase between everybody else and the last guy is pretty deflating.
@ryanprower4246
@ryanprower4246 Жыл бұрын
Enemies you're supposed to block attacks of have you start with more stamina than most fights.
@HydreionBolt
@HydreionBolt 4 ай бұрын
in bald bull 2, there is a bearded guy in the top left that quickly nods his head when you need to punch.
@mellowman1978
@mellowman1978 Жыл бұрын
I don't know anyone with this version of the game today. They all have the original.
@MbraceTheRandom
@MbraceTheRandom 2 жыл бұрын
This game is full of nostalgia for me. It was the second or third game I got with my original NES back in 1986. The anticipating punches/moves got me a lot in this game, but I did prevail and beat it. Thanks for the great video. 👍
@jean-francoiskeighan826
@jean-francoiskeighan826 2 жыл бұрын
Really like the debunking series. It help me with some games :)
@bradtraq1
@bradtraq1 2 жыл бұрын
I like the humble brag on bald bull fight 2, you're the man dude!
@mmaforever594
@mmaforever594 7 ай бұрын
He's so hard I cannot even get close to beating him
@garou1911
@garou1911 Жыл бұрын
When I was a kid I never knew the camera flash trick with Bald Bull, I always used the audio cues So, when he charges forward during the bull rush, every step towards Mac makes a little "bew-dew" sound, if you punch at the 3rd "dew", you can reliably get him every time once you get used to timing it that way
@baldbro3693
@baldbro3693 2 жыл бұрын
Oh no, Ryu gonna expose my only weaknesses!
@concerninghobbits5536
@concerninghobbits5536 Жыл бұрын
"Alright, so Glass Joe's dead."
@hayesblake
@hayesblake 2 жыл бұрын
Dude I love these debunking vids. If I was gonna recommend a game for the list it would be something like desert strike, Titus the fox or sleepwalker on the Amiga, they were so hard. Also, I did some research, I’ve been subscribed to your main channel since 18th October 2017 and watched every single vid since then. That deserves a heart my man. Love you dude ❤ Scrap that….. Bart’s nightmare on the the snes… that game is an arse to try and beat!
@identitywithheld4327
@identitywithheld4327 Жыл бұрын
Getting stars on Bald Bull is super easy. If you jab him right before he throws a hook, it’s usually a star. And if he blocks it, he will immediately throw another hook, you quickly dodge it, and follow up with a few left/right combos Also, if you punch him in the face when he shuffles his hands, it’s usually a star too.
@donniewinter5331
@donniewinter5331 Жыл бұрын
This
@BryanatGameStop
@BryanatGameStop 2 жыл бұрын
Yo Ryu I was able to beat Mike Tyson..... WITH SAVE STATES!!! 🤣🤣🤣
@naverick22
@naverick22 Жыл бұрын
For Bald Bull, there is a tell for when to dodge or counter his bull rush. In the Audience, there's a bearded guy on the left who doesn't move a muscle until the bull rush. It's hard to see in the video, but when the bearded guy ducks, that's the window to react and throw a punch or duck.
@opaljk4835
@opaljk4835 2 жыл бұрын
I like that you keep saying that they “die” at the end of matches. Lil Mac is just murdering all his opponents and not getting kicked out of the WVBA
@EdgarVerona
@EdgarVerona Жыл бұрын
I like the new approach, makes for an interesting watch!
@DarksydeX75
@DarksydeX75 2 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy these videos! They are especially cool because the Switch lets you play games from the NES!
@Vininsky
@Vininsky 2 жыл бұрын
There are a couple of things that Ryu got wrong in this video, but I can never be mad about someone playing a game that I love such as Punch Out. Keep up with the good content man.
@rossrobertson674
@rossrobertson674 2 жыл бұрын
He was wrong about Von Kaiser right? He was thinking about Don Flamenco where he said you can hit him forever if u alternate punches, he also missed that u can punch him in the face for a star when he twitches and when u use the star in the middle of a combo it's an automatic KO
@rossrobertson674
@rossrobertson674 2 жыл бұрын
I just got to the part where he corrected himself
@JaceTimes
@JaceTimes Жыл бұрын
For 15:20 you have to look to the middle left for the guy with the beard to pop his head for the que to knock bald bull. I also believe this works for Piston Honda as well.
@elodvezer1790
@elodvezer1790 2 жыл бұрын
this was fantastic! keep up the good work Ryu!
@Fregmazors
@Fregmazors Жыл бұрын
This is a good video! But your evaluation of this game doesn't even scratch the surface. What you displayed here was what every 12 year old boy figured out in the 1980s when this game came out. There is so much more. Check out Summoning Salt's video on the Punch Out speed running records to see the landscapes of tricks and techniques you can use to manipulate each and every one of these fighters like silly putty, all the way up to Tyson himself. It has a far more in-depth analysis of the difficulty level of this game, but that's because speed runners are crazy :D I did enjoy your video regardless!
@willh1655
@willh1655 Жыл бұрын
You absolutely can beat Soda Pop in round 1 with normal dodge and punching.
@dingerbelly
@dingerbelly 2 жыл бұрын
Another great video. Thanks Ryukahr!!!
@simi5432
@simi5432 2 жыл бұрын
Loved the video👍🧠, only made it to mr sandman in my childhood but now im gonna try again on my nes
@Daxdax006
@Daxdax006 2 жыл бұрын
Did you mention that you can heal when they are knocked down?
@starpetalarts6668
@starpetalarts6668 2 жыл бұрын
new series idea "bunking the difficulty"
@chimpmasterflex
@chimpmasterflex 2 жыл бұрын
Not done with the video yet, but I find it hilarious how he keeps saying "We killed him" or "when he kills you", even when just talking about knockdowns lol.
@Not__Ebony
@Not__Ebony 2 жыл бұрын
I noticed that too lol
@matthewhing4885
@matthewhing4885 2 жыл бұрын
Most enjoyable video yet! Super punch out next please 🙏
@mrlevity1984
@mrlevity1984 2 жыл бұрын
Mr Kahr. Would LOVE you to debunk Super Punch Out!
@BainesMkII
@BainesMkII 2 жыл бұрын
I wondered what the judgement would be, as the difficulty in the latter half is entirely dependent on your reaction speed and the accuracy of your timing. Someone naturally skilled can probably find it easy (if a little cheap/annoying by the end), while someone else might find it truly impossible regardless of how much they play and practice. That, and any input or display lag can be a killer.
@nathanielbass771
@nathanielbass771 2 жыл бұрын
it's not even the original either. He punches for 1:30 in the original and you can't block (instant knockout)
@BainesMkII
@BainesMkII 2 жыл бұрын
@@nathanielbass771 Supposedly the only differences between the Tyson and Dream versions are cosmetic. And you apparently can block Tyson, but even the blocked punch takes most of your life, meaning you can only do it once.
@BranceCrantly
@BranceCrantly 2 жыл бұрын
I forget which late show it was, but they had Mike Tyson fight himself in Punch Out. Let's just say he should stick to fists, not fingers.
@InDeathOnlyNothing
@InDeathOnlyNothing 2 жыл бұрын
I can't believe all these years all I had to do was what you did and instead of knock them down in the first round, leave them at low health. I never got past Mr. Sandman. I'm furious that's all you had to do.
@titantim
@titantim 3 күн бұрын
I've just binged a ton of your videos, and had to watch this one to see how you'd say it was easy. I tried and failed Tyson so many times as a kid that entering the password to get to him was muscle memory. Still, it's one of the best games on the NES.
@brianmaday9227
@brianmaday9227 2 жыл бұрын
Little surprised this shook out the way it did; I was sure it would be on the fence, but I thought you'd come down debunking it. Either way, I appreciate the honest look at retro video game difficulty, rather than relying on dusty memories or memes built on same.
@stijnstolze3018
@stijnstolze3018 2 жыл бұрын
he makes this game look so easy
@frewforall5239
@frewforall5239 2 жыл бұрын
I love how this game uses the same sound effects as Zelda 2. I’ve actually never played it before but I’d recognize those sounds anywhere! Love this series Ryu!
@upgamerFranzo
@upgamerFranzo Жыл бұрын
Good video! I was actually able to beat the game on emulator, but the people who tell you to play on a CRT are actually right, I ran into a brick wall against Mr. Sandman where I could not dodge his Dreamland Express until I checked my settings and optimized them to lower input lag a little. I have a couple tips for some of the harder fights that may help: 1. Agains Piston Honda 2 and Super Macho man, you can get some cheeky hits/stars by pressing up and hitting them with a gut punch (especially useful when they're not attacking you and waiting). If Super Macho Man starts dodging your uppercuts, try to accumulate three stars since it resets his dodging ability. 2. To get more stars against Bald Bull, I find that delaying a jab a bit after dodging a hook or an uppercut helps. This lets you get more stars and knock him down quicker. 3. If you have trouble dodging the Dreamland Express on emulator, definitely check your settings and turn off vsync if it's on. It'll still be hard to dodge, but it can make a big difference. 4. When Mike Tyson does an uppercut, counter with the opposite arm to deal more damage (e.g. he uses his left arm, counter with your right punch). Though as Ryu said, beating the later fights in this game is about just getting good at the game. There are many tricks to help, even in the later fights, but they won't substitute having solid fundamentals, knowing what to look for, and having good reaction times to apply everything. But if you can stick through the challenge, is a very rewarding game to master.
@leGUIGUI
@leGUIGUI 7 ай бұрын
For Bald Bull 2,the signal to punch the bull-charge is the bearded man in the public on the center left who slightly move his head when you have to push the button to punch.
@THTB614
@THTB614 Жыл бұрын
This is genuinely one of the most skill-intensive and genuinely difficult NES games. You have to have good reactions and execution to complete it. There are many random elements that bait you into anticipation, as well. And the first 90 seconds of Tyson/Mr Dream is a total nightmare that really tests how well you can react, since those punches have zero room for error. Knowing that makes those blindfolded runs so much more ridiculous to watch.
@chriskaiser8424
@chriskaiser8424 2 жыл бұрын
For Bald Bull, the secret to the first battle is "One-Two-Punch". Right when he starts his charge, count "One-Two-Punch" like you're counting 1-2-3. The second fight is "One-Punch" because he jumps back one hop less. I never knew about the camera flash, but Doc's hints between rounds will occasionally tell you this.
@jonkohrr2.06
@jonkohrr2.06 2 жыл бұрын
Loved the video, man! Consider Hagane for either Debunking the difficulty or Extraordinarily hard games. It's in the SNES, and it's AMAZING.
@kalandraresan3890
@kalandraresan3890 2 жыл бұрын
A certain level of reaction time is necessary to complete this game, yeah. Like you said, there's a number of areas where you can get punished for anticipating - you have to react. I found this game becoming increasingly more difficult as I've gotten older and my reaction times have slowed.
@_Bee305_
@_Bee305_ 2 жыл бұрын
Game still holds up today, love the vid!
@adammadison4618
@adammadison4618 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! Love this series!
@snowmobile68
@snowmobile68 2 жыл бұрын
I don't remember ever getting to Sandman. The second bald bull always wrecked me. Fun video. I need to buy an NES again.
@Mr.TwoFaceGuy
@Mr.TwoFaceGuy 3 ай бұрын
14:18 I had my father play the emulator. He said “it feels like I’m cheating. It’s so responsive”.
@TheJacklikesvideos
@TheJacklikesvideos Жыл бұрын
I like the idea of a difficulty rating of debunkable or not. I appreciated when in Ninja Gaiden you made a point to tell everyone that the game was truly hard. On that note, teabagging the boss should be the series logo.
@pac2391
@pac2391 2 жыл бұрын
You definitely made it look easy. I struggled in the last circuit as a kid. But I gotta replay this at some point after watching this! This also reminded me of this kid in class that told us that King Hippo got back up after he knocked him down... we knew he was full of shit ever since then 😂
@nathanielbass771
@nathanielbass771 2 жыл бұрын
I think he only does that if you knock him out with a method other than punching him in the stomach. Dunno, rarely get the opportunity with how clunky stars are for him and he is immune to normal uppercuts. Been so long since I played...I am very sad that my NES died
@TotPocket
@TotPocket 2 жыл бұрын
Fun Fact: King Hippo doesn't even have an animation for getting uppercutted
@journey8692
@journey8692 2 жыл бұрын
You can't even get stars on Hippo
@Seconds84
@Seconds84 Жыл бұрын
He made it look easy because he looked up strats and clearly played before making this video. Made obvious by the way he was speaking about the game while playing.
@svetlananikolaeva8039
@svetlananikolaeva8039 Жыл бұрын
@@nathanielbass771 He can't be knocked out by a method other than punching him in the stomach
@1980Triumph
@1980Triumph Жыл бұрын
11:43 to 11:48 is insane to come out of someone's mouth so rhythmically
@patricoda
@patricoda Жыл бұрын
"When his pants fall down, punch him in the stomach" Words to live by.
@TheJontie
@TheJontie 2 жыл бұрын
I'm sure you're in my head Ryu, I was just wondering yesterday if you'd played Punch-Out!
@zuleamen
@zuleamen 2 жыл бұрын
Fun Fact. 2nd bald bull fight. Dodge bull rush once. When he resets he doesn't go back as far Then there is a longer delay between him being in reach and him throwing his punch.
@rmbettac
@rmbettac 2 жыл бұрын
The zoom in and 8 bit music pushed the suspense up in the Dream fight
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