Punchline TRICKS Everyone?!?

[@fallofcamelot]

Every tenth time the Joker gets sent to Arkham he gets a free latte

[@reillymcwriting]

Legend has it that Jeff bezos actually made his wealth by getting a nickel every time joker pulls the “I’m not evil I’m insane” card

[@That80sGuy1972]

@@reillymcwriting My favorite deviation to that was in a Dark Knight movie. "...I'm just ahead of the curve." I love that one because he usually is.

[@assassinmaster3419]

Every third time he gets a free sundae

[@RichardSmith-dl2dk]

Punchline's joke=society is a joke and she's the chosen one to deliver this message! Joker's joke=all of life itself is a joke! Therefore, Punchline is part of the joke and she doesn't get it

[@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259]

Well said but....Or Joker just likes killing. He has a skewed way of thinking and we don't know why. Is there a point? Or is he making the point life is meaningless? Like you said. He's not insane in my opinion , he has a crazy weird way of thinking but he's not mentally ill because he's still intelligent. The green goblin is insane.

[@jeshuarestituyo284]

@@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259 mmmm that's not how mental illnesses work. When many people with aspergers, sociopathic tendencies and such are quite smart. 🙃

[@rn6610]

Not to be a party pooper but in Punchline #1 she says that as much as she would like to believe she was chosen by the joker she knows that isn't true...

[@Terminalsanity]

The Joke was never really very funny to begin with because as you said life and its arbitrary nature is the Joke and a meaningless death is the Punchline. The Joker is but an elaborate act to perform a singular bad Joke again and again because deep down as shitty comedian that's all he's capable of. That's the why Joker is so obsessed with Batman. Because Batman actually gets the joke and Joker knows it, its just Batman won't laugh because he knows in the core of his being that the joke is not, was not and never will be funny no matter how times the Punchline drops.

[@lynnedwads3002]

funny how SHE doesnt get the punchline

[@matman329]

Joker in Arkham for a week? Someones being optimistic lol

[@BlackShadow01-05]

He’ll probably go in and start a prison break before he gets his uniform that was Waiting for him at the front entrance

[@shin-oni4223]

Everytime Batman puts joker in Arkham, he always escapes

[@That80sGuy1972]

My theory is that he escapes almost instantly... and only known to escape when he doesn't return before a guard, orderly, doctor, or nurse checks in on him. Yes, I believe he returns to Arkham when his escape is not detected.

[@jpeckdraws3932]

Yeah right hell be out by the weekend lol

[@GenerationWest]

Punchline has gone full movie Joker, with fans cheering her as she's taken away, those fans wearing clown mask, and a feeling of being recognized. I think that's it, she wants a pedestal, and Joker gave her one, and she's making sure Gotham keeps her up there.

[@estelaangeles2346]

Joker shouldn't have a love interest

[@strifenineteen]

@@estelaangeles2346 he doesn't, calling her a love interest implies he is capable of feeling love. In the end she is just another mind he can mess with just like Harley.

[@edoardocastelnovi7154]

@@estelaangeles2346 that counts for both Harley and Batman too, right?

[@cypurrpunkmusic9064]

@@edoardocastelnovi7154 sure

[@hjuoowou560]

@@estelaangeles2346 he should everyone should get love

[@jigganautt9487]

Sasha is waiting for the "Lois marries Punchline" story arc to happen so it will tie in nicely with her "Thirsty Lois" playlist!

[@Cesaryeyo]

Now, the best man would OF COURSE be Superman, but who would be maid of honor/other best man. Batman? The Joker? I need answers!!!

[@laragallahue7127]

@@Cesaryeyo Bats duh! And Joker can be the one who walks her down the aisle.

[@bazzfromthebackground3696]

And Harley is the maid-of-honor for some reason.

[@benito6036]

But wait, who's presiding and asking them their vows? Composite Superman?

[@Machowesker17]

@@benito6036 hmmmmm... ...Lex Luthor?

[@LostCommenter7]

Punchline is just one of those girls on tumblr who it way too into true crime/serial killers girls and simps over actual murderers.

[@pamelaisleypoisonivy9411]

Exactly. This Punchline needs a punch in the face.

[@T0xXx1k]

*I'm NoT lIkE oThEr GiRls*

[@mediatorraptor3349]

I was thinking the same thing

[@greatgallade]

Emo girl goes into her deep dark edgy end?

[@sourie1]

that's why harley quinn is so much better/more interesting

[@lf7456]

I think that Punchline is playing everyone, the podcast seemed designed to draw in people who felt they had no power (like her in her first encounter with Joker) and then slowly turn them so they thought it was their own idea to follow her's/Joker's mentality. I do think that the support at the court house took her by surprise though.

[@tysargent9647]

So she's bound to be a cult leader?

[@booksvsmovies]

I low key want a joker fish now. I think they're neat.

[@latriciarayenae]

They’re finny and funny and oh so delish!

[@macehilmatecilof4140]

We need dc to sell big mouth joker fishes. Those things that you hang on the wall and when you press a button it sings a song. Maybe the song joker sings in killing joke.

[@rc5989]

My partner overheard Sasha and asked if Sasha ever takes a breath. I said, no she edits out breaths. 😂

[@melissaperez4270]

My husband said the same thing lol. He thinks I'm cheating on him because hes always telling me the updates on the comic world. He goes to the comic store every Wednesday for the latest issues. He actually suprised me this Wednesday with Punchline comic book.

[@laurelsilberman5705]

I love how when punchline kisses Joker, he looks like he’s cringing into her mouth. Like he’s thinking to himself, “is this gal for real? She knows my heart belongs to the Batman”😂

[@superlol178]

One particular interesting thing about this comic...is that it mentions that Gotham have capital punishment. But to me that doesn't make any sense... since most villains and their goons go to Arkham or Black gate and just wait the next chance to escape. Do Arkham is the size of small city or something?Is the bar for insanity is so low that everyone criminal avoids the chair with it?

[@ExeErdna]

Yeah that seems to be a miss because that'll make Gotham a state and not a city which means they'll need to confirm where Gotham is in the US in DC universe. Since Capital Punishment is state-based not city-based and in most states have a funk about them due to innocent people getting killed. Yet here like you said they just yeet bad guys to Arkham or Black Gate. We KNOW Amanda Waller keeps some people alive to do her wetwork which kinda counts.

[@nivekian]

They mean Red Hood

[@Estarfigam]

Gotham is supposed to be in New Jersey, a state that abolished the death penalty in 2007....

[@jessielefey]

Iunno how much it helps, but I always got the impression that Arkham doesn't *just* service Gotham. It's a (supposedly) super-max facility for the criminally insane, it probably covers most of New England if not the entire North East. Like, Gotham has an overabundance of repeat offenders, in the same way a city with a teaching hospital ends up with a higher percentage of doctors; once you're in Gotham why bother going home? But I never thought that only Gotham villains ended up there. So yeah. Like any other private prison. Too full, poorly run, full of corruption. I think the bar for capital punishment is just very high. Like, it's there. But you have to *really* piss people off to get it. It was a mostly empty threat, of the like the prosecution often throws around to scare the ignorant into pleading out (or the kind a savvy con artist can use to inflame their fans, or both). It didn't bother me over much.

[@rc5989]

In my opinion, the trope of criminal insanity is how all the villains get to come back eventually. Plus, we don’t have to read about boring trials that would never happen anyway. Gotham is so riddled with crime that any prosecutor would just cut a deal for a life sentence anyway. Getting a conviction, without a death sentence is a bad result for a prosecutor when it costs a ton of money and time. The system is supposed to be broken, that is the whole purpose of the Bat Family. Is every big Bat push from DC going to end with a years worth of comics about putting society on trial? Oof!

[@manis1551]

If Gotham have captial punishment then how come Penguin is still alive? We're often told that Penguin is completely sane so it's baffling that he's still around.

[@togucvinw7]

Money is why , Oswald unlike the others has a hold on the high powers of Gotham (pretty sure Black Mask does as well) hence why he gets out scotts free

[@mpf23]

Maybe Penguin has enough money to bribe them to not execute him...?

[@Nightman221k]

As of so far, I really like Punchline as a modern villain. I hope that she stays as interesting as this storyline is allowing her to be cause her warped choices and fanatical need to find the meaning behind chaos is pretty well done for a Batman villain who started out a protege.

[@nielsjensen4185]

That's exactly what Harleen Quinzel started out as well. Trying to find meaning behind the chaos inside Joker. And she had even more ballast than Punchline does.

[@Bezaliel13]

@@nielsjensen4185 Yeah, Punchline would be a nice villain *for Harley.*

[@nielsjensen4185]

@@Bezaliel13 I so hope that the Joker goes, "You stole my joke and tried to explain it, then the joke no longer works," and then caps her in the head without any joking or fanfare to show that he's so angry that he's beyond jokes and funny business.

[@Bezaliel13]

@@nielsjensen4185 That sounds kind of lame tbh.

[@Bezaliel13]

@@nielsjensen4185 Wait, that already happened to Harley in the animated series *she was created for,* specifically the episode where she was going to have Batman eaten by Jokerized piranha.

[@fredcampbell4066]

Punchline has the potential to be a great villain for a very long time. We will have to wait and see. I am hopeful

[@Torlik11]

It already went better than I expected. I hope they keep it that way and do someting fresh with the chatacter. There is still the risk of Harley Quinn #2 but I too am hopefull

[@micah459]

I agree. Just wish she was older because I'm tired of every new female character being so young

[@fredcampbell4066]

@@micah459 I hear you on that one

[@kobochaos]

This is kinda why I am for aging and time going by in comics. Like so many people were wielded out by hipster Batgirl of Burnside. (Facts not shade) since Barbara already had this identity that people were attached to. But the thing is that a lot of characters can realistically know how to use the tech Punchline has tech/social media as an extention of who she is. TL: DR "Destiel is cannon" Barb: "wtf " Punchline: "yeah cannon fired into straight to superhelllock"

[@Torlik11]

@@micah459 I completely agree. It's nice to have more varied characters. It also let you eplore more topics instead of having most characters be moody teens with self-confidence issues

[@bgood8299]

Even though it was a little heavy handed at times, I thought it was a solid story and a good exploration of Punchline and how seemingly average people can be swayed to give support to people like her. I also liked the choice of art for this one, I would not have liked this art in a Batman book, but I think it was very fitting for this story because, at least to me, it conveyed a sense of fluidity that was not only fitting for the character's transition from Alexis to Punchline, but also fitting for the change she is causing within Gotham itself.

[@Estarfigam]

It's interesting, so there is no Bat-tours, even Bat-Merch where the proceeds go to the GCPD? I do find it funny that the Joker fish has a plush at an aquarium. I think by now there should at least be Bat-signal flashlights.

[@Bezaliel13]

Bat Burger.

[@TheEvolver311]

The IP's are oddly all owned and unused by the Wayne foundation

[@Bantoshima]

I think Punchline is lying about her "backstory". If she is an evil millennial, then it only makes sense to suede public opinion through highly calculated pathos. The writers are making fun of the online world and Punchline is a walking KZbin apology video. Boomers like the Joker could never lol

[@tysargent9647]

Following in the Joker's footsteps, then. Remember, we'll probably never know Joker's true origin.

[@damnyoukira]

She’s a fan girl of Joker the idea more than the man.

[@robsyers8647]

I just connected the dots. This goes WAY deeper than Gotham, it goes nation wide, international. Punchline's plan, to bring chaos to Gotham is just step ONE. The riot that will be sparked by this trial will spread across the city, and into the suburbs. Batman, having lost control of the city, is seen with contempt by the eyes of Gotham. Superman arrives to help the aching city, but Superman, he only matters because, where he goes, Lois Lane follows, to get that big scoop. Phase two begins, lots of stuff happens, the internet does stuff, and with every second that ticks by, the Punchline's hand creeps closer to Lois, and another DC universe shattering comics cover featuring Batman, broken and helpless, staring on in disbelief as Superman, once again, a best man. Lois and Punchline are wedded. BEST COMIC EVER.

[@batmanofsanantonio5331]

Punchline could possibly be more dangerous than The Joker. She is straight up crazy, jealous, needy and narcissistic.

[@aceofknaves61]

after everything joker has done , cap - she can be amazing villain but dont compare her to joker , at the end of the day - she is his sidekick and does what he tells her too

[@godzilla4005]

And the joker isn't all of this..?

[@lopamudrarout2286]

No one can be more crazier than Joker except Harley because she has lost her everything and she can be more crazier but Joker and that Punchline still want to rule Gotham

[@relaxhedx7064]

@@lopamudrarout2286 shes difentely not crazy than him the joker has absolutely no emotion, understanding or empathy towards life or death. while harley was lured and tortured into sanity. and now shes an anti-hero.

[@retro_style8055]

@@aceofknaves61 no offense joker can get annoying, maybe punchline can give him a punch in the face

[@TA3DArtist]

Call of Honor is a mix of Call of Duty and Medal of Honor. Sorry, it's not often I get to use my knowledge as a game developer in these comments. :-)

[@CasuallyComics]

Spread your knowledge!!

[@TA3DArtist]

@@CasuallyComics :-D

[@RoxyTjF]

I love the choice of artist for this issue. Mirka Andolfo makes punchline look sweet, innocent and adorable at the begining of her journey but also really pushes the creep factor and the maniacal aspects of her personality when needed! I love this art on this one so much! I think it was super important in what the story was saying. I usually find most comic writting to be very heavy handed and lacking in subletly, but this is actually not as bad as i was expecting it to be! I'm delighted and i cant wait for the next issue (and hopefully your next video on her)!

[@Victor.Alteria]

I suspect Cullen is going to become another Joker groupee character to set up the dynamic of brother and sister (Harper) being on opposite sides

[@ms.marvelous8156]

Based on what I’ve seen on KZbin, it’s gonna take her being confronted with her past bullshit or she’ll take it too far one day and that’s what gonna end her public support for this mess.

[@devforfun5618]

and to make the message stronger i hope a "new punchline" appears right after with all the public support again, because it is always the messengers fault not the system that creates them

[@nudicegaming6813]

And now I want a Joker Fish plush... But, as troublesome as the Almighty Algorithm is, it did bring me to your channel, so it can't be all bad.

[@aymansalha6776]

I loved your take on the punchline story and I really agree with most of the things that you said but I think you forgot about the part where bluff says that the podcast was taken down but the internet never forgets which I think was a nice nod to how when things get on the internet it lives on forever no matter how hard you try to take it away it eventually comes back but also the way that Cullen finds the podcast is interesting because it really shows how much things spread on the internet and the fact that people talk about this subject on a video game really shows that punchlines plan is working well as its spread very far

[@CasuallyComics]

See I thought so too but Leslie was all like your account has over a million followers now lol there must be something still on it! I like it either way I appreciate what this story is trying to talk about.

[@aymansalha6776]

@@CasuallyComics I didn't think about that thank you, it's nice to see others opinions and ideas

[@AesculapiusPiranha]

I think the "still having followers" bit might be commentary on how these things bring people attention. Also, in regard to the theme the place where stories like this lose me is most online counterculture exists in spite of something. No one goes to it and becomes shocked with who they become. I really wish they kind of made it more evident that Punchline isn't the only one mistaking the Joker for having a brain, and possibly the damage society's poor perception of the Bat fam could bring. It would mean there is a tangible thing that people in general are upset about them with, that may or may not be their fault.

[@Unworshipediety]

She's an interesting character and I like her! Being a villain that's so closely connected to media definitely opens up the doors to all sorts of stories that just don't play as well to other Gotham characters. I do like how some folks are complaining about how well she fights, don't they know that in DC being nuts is kinda a superpower within itself. In either case, nice video!

[@tylerblackstock]

Punchline in some ways is everything I wish Amanda Young would have been in the Saw franchise.

[@MosaicComics]

huh, that's a really good point.

[@WarmLillie]

Something wrong about Joker, he doesn’t want to be on TV. Something up...

[@jessielefey]

It's not entirely out of character for him to wake up today and be like "but what if I made my toys battle on tv". He *has* done it before, when the joke is in the making people dance instead of making people watch. But it is also one of the things that ping that "hmm how reliable a narrator are you, kid?" impulse. Like, ehhh, Iunno. Something seems sketch about it. Whatever happened I don't think it went down like that. The situation scans, it's the details that seem... too simple, but not simple enough.

[@XYZRobZombie]

@@jessielefey could it be that this is the first time she really had to 'sell' a false narrative of herself? literally under the gun. It would be interesting to see how she would have done if batman hadn't shown up.

[@MidnightIsolde]

@@jessielefey same. And the restaurant scene of her with Joker rings as a bit off too in terms of how he's portrayed. It's her interpretation of the event, but not the whole picture.

[@estelaangeles2346]

@@MidnightIsolde joker should just be single

[@vasp99]

Punchline seems to be what the Rag Doll was said to be in Starman but never really fleshed out to be. A cult leader in the making. Maybe Rag Doll could be part of her journey !

[@liseegeskov8769]

Yeah hope She doesnt turn in too Harley 2.o

[@Bezaliel13]

@@liseegeskov8769 That would be like Carnage becoming the new Flash Thompson. Seriously, when has the new villain made to replace a redeemed one ever been redeemed too?

[@femto7579]

@@Bezaliel13 great comparison seeing as carnage while never being as iconic as joker has undoubtedly become a great character

[@Bezaliel13]

@@femto7579 Sooooo, instead of *_Harley Quinn,_* you thought I used *Flash Thompson* as a point of comparison to *Joker?* Do _you_ think the Joker is similar to *_Flash Thompson_* as Agent Venom? No, I am not joking. Were you?

[@femto7579]

@@Bezaliel13 i meant to say while not as popular as venom, carnage has become a great character carnage being potential punchline and venom being current harley

[@UltramanGaijin]

The plot element that is destined to be forthcoming is how the Joker takes all of this. If she becomes too big it pushes him out of the limelight, something that has been shown as a sore spot for him in the past with Harley, which also opens up how Punchline will respond to his abusive side. Right now the blush is still on the rose and they are getting along as well as two mentally disturbed individuals can, but eventually he's going to get pissed off and decide to take it out on her at some point - and that's when we'll see how unique she is or isn't. Harley put up with it for ages, and likely only ever left him because of the intervention of Harley's friends like Ivy and others telling her she deserved better. She was a college educated professional and yet still under his sway and taking his abuse for a long time. Will Punchline become his "punching bag" or will she stand up to him? If she goes against him, he's been shown as clever enough to figure out whatever games she is playing, and could be a deadlier opponent for her than fighting Batman. If she takes the abuse, it will only get worse for her from there, because he will always take steps to make sure she never gets the appearance of more relevance than him. The fact she is building a following of goons of her own can't sit well with him, and could lead to a power struggle, but unlike Batman, the Joker would kill her if he can. It may be a long game story if this is something DC is seeing and actually planning, but what they've set up so far already should be putting her on the Joker's radar to take her down a peg a little bit.

[@femto7579]

You left out an option the only way for her to deal with the abuse is if she is likewise abusive. Joker has often responded well to people that just don’t take his shit he gets off on somone who fights back and aren’t just another one of his goons

[@UltramanGaijin]

@@femto7579 No, I considered that, but it's a very fine line to walk. Just enough and he is intrigued and stimulated to play along for awhile, too much and he's offended and goes straight to killing. Harley has pushed back in recent years, and while it has intrigued him, it has also moved him to attempt to kill her and hurt those around her as well. The biggest issue Punchline faces, however, is stealing his stage. If she seems to be about to outshine him in any way he will immediately move to kill her - this has been a staple for a while now. She will either need to step back into a submissive role and let him take all the credit, or he will see her as a threat. If she pushes back against his ego and self-gratification, that will supercede any possible stimulation he could/would get from her resisting him. He is insane, so how quickly and how violently he responds is uncertain, but at some point he's going to put his foot down. How she responds to that will define their dynamic. If she resists and attempts to steal his thunder he will likely take her down, or attempt to. It's very likely he already has a plan in reserve anyway, he does that. All of this is subject to the writers and the current dynamic, of course, but based upon the current history of the Joker, his past relationships with his goons, temporay partners, and especially Harley, these courses of action seem most likely. Punchline is a new generation villain, so maybe she has planned for him as well, but that remains to be seen.

[@estelaangeles2346]

@@femto7579 joker and batman should just be single forever because when harley captures batman the joker gets mad at harley

[@femto7579]

@@estelaangeles2346 using one example that only ever happened once. she’s captured him after that and joker even praised her.

[@mpf23]

I can see Punchline being Joker 2.0 if Joker himself ever betrays/abuses her. Like still remain a criminal but fighting either Joker or Batman. Much of the Batman series' action involves outwitting the other and retreating to recover from injuries.

[@brittanybrown3445]

This is a lot of work to go through to get more followers for her podcast, but I respect Punchline's hustle

[@chrissaavedra1055]

Regarding radicalization, while you can get radicalized anywhere, the scope is massively different. Talking to someone or giving a speech to an audience is way less effective than a viral video that is there for years. Thats why these movements grew exponentially in these years.

[@cellscribe]

Victorian Home Restoration. Sasha sitting on an unfinished wood floor. KZbin trolling algorithm.

[@TsubasaOfTheSword]

18:09 Petition for Punchline to marry Lois. XD

[@Torlik11]

The joker fish plush remind me of what we saw after 9/11 with some people trying to make a profit by selling things like t-shirt with the picture of the falling man or small replicas of the burning towers. No tragedy is too great for us to try and make money out of it.

[@reillymcwriting]

*Oh say can you seeeee*

[@doro626]

The reflection on Sasha's glasses makes it look like she has green and purple eyeshadow at the corners of her eyes ( reflected light) which goes well for this video.

[@Sunstar808]

Just walking in the footsteps of the Joker can potentially make you crazy.

[@chibiktsn3]

I am now actually interested in this character! I think that all of the emotions she feels, fangirling and that she can do Joker's job better than he can, are definitely compatible.

[@estelaangeles2346]

Joker should just be single

[@estelaangeles2346]

Joker hates romance or love

[@anisacowan]

This trial makes me think of the Ted Bundy trials, but Gotham's version in the time of internet celebrity

[@misteranother2252]

Punchline does have potential to be more than Harley Quinn 2.5. I appreciate this channel Casually Comics for resurrecting my interest and love of comics lot of the analyzing and review of comics and to the humor that's put into these reviews has brought forth a lot of what I enjoyed about reading comics and seeing all the comments it's nice being part of a fun community thank you

[@reillymcwriting]

@Milomondo I don’t think that’s completely true. She’s really just Batman: the animated series Harley mixed with Deadpool. I think the comic Harleen portrays joker’s original sidekick well.

[@estelaangeles2346]

@Milomondo just make the joker single

[@estelaangeles2346]

@Milomondo just make the joker abuse punchline

[@heribertoborrero7019]

It appears to me that Punchline has always been a sociopath and psychotic, it took the Joker's antics to manifest it. There is really no endgame to the Joker's twisted cycle of crime and chaos. To quote, "Some men just like to see the world burn". Punchline is looking for purpose and admiration that she gets from media crazed adoring fans. She's playing the sympathy card while subliminally subduing in a cult-like fashion. Is this a criticism of our time? Seduction of the innocent? A twisted awakening for those that have meaningless lives or no direction or purpose to their current situations? If you sway enough people, you can convince them that "if I shoot someone on Fifth Avenue, no one will notice". This storyline is striking close to home. BTW, I like your homage to Punchline. Your attire never ceases to amazing me. Keep up the good work.

[@estelaangeles2346]

Joker should just be single

[@WhiteRaven696]

Living for that Punchline wig. Yass, Sasha.

[@grkpektis]

@13:28 I just noticed that punchline is more muscular than her first appearance, I wonder if that's intentionally suggesting joining the joker has made her stronger

[@Valenthia_Panic]

So is no one talking about that frame where it looks like punchline is kissing the joker? What happened to " I'm not is girlfriend. I'm his partner?"

[@alixinthemiddle]

They’re fuck buddies. And murder buddies. That doesn’t mean they’re romantic.

[@caleb2730]

@@alixinthemiddle basically what Harley and ivy were before Harley left joker

[@Julianaabn]

@Thomas Cheow yeah

[@femto7579]

Partners is a jab at Harley who was just his girlfriend. Punchline actively tries to be involved with jokers plans she thinks a lot like joker so joker doesn’t reject her like he did with Harley

[@amy-ql5wo]

That just reads to me as "I'm not like other girls" desire to be taken seriously but the truth is she's just an obsessed fangirl. Evil? Sure, but still an obsessed fangirl who is not as much of a super villain as she wants to be seen as. . She cares too much about being seen as edgy, hardcore and evil, whereas if she truly was there would be no need to try hard. Shitty cold blooded person? Yes, but ultimately pathetic. Imo the logical end to this character would be that Joker sees potential in her... but to use for his own ends because that is his character.

[@kcollier2192]

I think this sets up Punchline well and makes her far more than just a Joker clone. In fact, she'd make a great foil for Oracle if they keep her social media machinations as a primary means of inciting change

[@estelaangeles2346]

Joker should just be single

[@kemmdog4444]

I’m surprised there isn’t a Batman supervillain called “the Algorithm”.

[@reillymcwriting]

Alright. Let’s create one right here and now. He’s calculator’s intern who is secretly a mole for bane. His name is Carter MacAnby, he’s 17 years old, and his favorite food is potato chips.

[@kemmdog4444]

@@reillymcwriting I like it.

[@reillymcwriting]

@@kemmdog4444 cool I’ll send it in to DC

[@hgattwelve]

Did anyone else notice that both of Punchline's early victims (the guy at the burn barrel and the dude in the restaurant) bear a striking resemblance to Bluff? Coincidence?!?

[@katherinegibson8791]

My question I guess is... where is her training? I've seen nothing in her past that says why a normal girl can pick up knives and outfight Harley. Also... they say she's different from Harley... cause she plays the mind tricks unlike Harley the psychologist.

[@chaoticdrawer1885]

When you critically think about those two points it ruins a good chunk of her character, especially considering how young she is

[@indigo3174]

@Fandom Breaker where does it imply that Joker trained Harley? From what I remember Harley used to do gymnastics and was introduced as a character that does the fighting FOR Joker.

[@indigo3174]

@Fandom Breaker and you think it makes sense that Joker trained Harley even tho she did the fighting FOR him? And on top of that is better at it than him? Dude...

[@indigo3174]

@Fandom Breaker depends on the Joker. In the batman Animated Series he uses Harley as the person who fights for him,same goes for the new Harley Quinn cartoon even in some comics the Joker would rather let Harley fight. Harley did Gymnastics which she uses when she fights plus,she got a boost in Power and is immune to toxins,which all came from Ivy.

[@indigo3174]

@Fandom Breaker Joker doesn't really explain that either,he abused her and lied to her,treated her like trash,you think he'd actually train her? To him it would probably be wasting time. It's either she leaarned by herself in some way,picked it up from Ivy,Catwoman or whoever or we can just say she's a Mary Sue and that's it. We would need a comic explaining how she knows all this because so far,like I said,She only gained a boost in power from Ivy and is immune to toxins and knows gymnastics.

[@artemiswolf4508]

I actually disagree when you said that people wouldn’t believe she did nothing wrong. There are many people willing to forgive much worse things with the right persuasion. The line “the joker is bad but she’s not the joker” is particularly poignant, that is actually an argument common in indoctrination *”Sure maybe she’s A but is not like she’s B”* . You justified the controversial aspects of A by comparing it to B, this goes further and further until B is essentially indistinguishable from A but people still defend B because the transition was slow enough. I also think people seriously underestimate how easy it is to indoctrinate someone. A combination of isolation, peer pressure, group mentality and appeal to emotions with the right amount of force can make almost anyone believe even the stupidest ideas. And I’m not saying teenagers are dumb and gullible but they are specially vulnerable to this kind of thing. This story was fascinating in that aspect.

[@reillymcwriting]

I am a teenager, I can confirm that probably 90% of my grade (including me most likely) would fall to this kinda thing.

[@thecrawler1265]

@@reillymcwriting same

[@MosaicComics]

I love legacy characters, the more the better. The fact that Punchline and Bluebird are being pushed together makes it feel like a whole new generation is being added to the Bat family.

[@PumpkinSwag]

I really enjoyed this story. I think (and really, REALLY hope) that Punchline was just using the apology video to manipulate her audience by making herself the victim. All in service of helping the Joker deliver his message. I love the idea of her being manipulative human garbage. I think she'd be most intriguing if they go that angle.

[@micah459]

I'm just confused as to how she's allowed to have a podcast talking about The Joker.

[@typoking]

She's a wannabe Harley Quinn and nothing more. She's proven that much, trying to take over Harley's shtick and everything. I hope she gets offed soon.

[@netwolfe]

I don't know. To me from what I have seen the videos on this channel about her, there a part of me that thinks she has her own goals. Her own adjectives. And to her, Joker might just be a tool for whatever those goals are. I could be wrong. But there is a part of me that thinks that Punchline is using The Joker in manner that Joker himself might be unaware of. I may not have seen all the videos with Punchline. I randomly check this channel now and then. So I will acknowledge there may be gaps in my information. But in the video titled, Punchline Wins? | BATMAN Joker War 100, there was thing that stuck out at me. Joker did something sooner then he was suppose to. Which then resulted in their plan to fall apart. Which then resulted in The Underbroker cutting ties with both Joker and Punchline, and all this frustrated Punchline. And then she called someone telling them that things were ending sooner then expected, she remembered the plan, and that she loved them. I do not think that was The Joker she was talking to. Because I personally do not think she loves The Joker in any fashion. Also she probably would not have need to tell Joker that things were ending sooner then expected. He probably would have already known that. I think she was talking to some unknown person that has not been seen yet. And that is part of the reason why I think she is using The Joker. I think Punchline has a plan with this unknown person, that The Joker is unaware of. She did not join Joker because she likes him, I think she joined him because she thinks he could be useful to her. That is my personal thoughts and opinions thus far. But I can totally be wrong.

[@renagadehunter7077]

The Call to Honour game sounds like a budget mash up of the Call of Duty and Medal of Honour games lol

[@ThatLilLady]

See, I think she wanted the Joker's seat, and rule Gotham better. There's a reason why she's called punchline. What comes at the end of a joke?

[@TubezThe1]

I mean, on one hand, you could say that it underestimates the intelligence of Gotham's people for so many of them to be falling for Punnchline's bullshit. However, these are the same citizens that have seen the Joker commit Mass genocide in it multiple times, seem bane take it over the city, has always had a classist mobster problem and let's not forget the time that the entire city literally collapsed underneath itself and became a "No Man's Land". Say what you want about how internet culture is depicted in this, that's a very complicated and nuanced conversation, but if we're looking at the citizens of Gotham city, I think it's be giving them too much credit to NOT fall for this.

[@TheCrimson7ucker]

The way she researched the joker is like how Tim drake research and found out who was, do you guys see the similarities.

[@Shamazya]

I continue to love this direction! I like the exploration of Joker's relationship to Gotham and the idea that the place would capitalize on his exploits. Because really, it totally would. We see it happen with Salem and the witch trials and with other places of mass death and destruction. And I like the idea of the Joker being focused on one heckler in the audience at the expense of the rest of the audience; that's a fun metaphor!

[@estelaangeles2346]

Joker was in love with batman in the The old comics and books but people forgot about that

[@manucitomx]

I quite enjoyed this. That being said, I doubt it’ll age well. It’s too dependent on today’s take on social media. She does have a lot of potential, I do hope they do not flush it down the toilet. Only time will tell.

[@tmd-w1552]

Really? I think the opposite I think social media will never stop being like this. And as the generations go by both the younger and older populations will be far more reliant on it. My generation was born into technology and look at us already. Another example is people tend to forget about events such as ISIS that used Muslim children's feelings of alienation in a unwelcoming country to their advantage and look how much damage they did.

[@estelaangeles2346]

@@tmd-w1552 joker should just abuse punchline

[@tmd-w1552]

@@estelaangeles2346 ok

[@Doomscrollingalong]

I agree that the willingness to disbelieve is really pushed too far.

[@fumochabalala6284]

And here I am laying down when she says get comfy

[@jesseperrett3692]

Thanos, where are you, buddy? We could use that finger-snap right about now.

[@cellscribe]

No dog? We can't fully trust you until you get a dog. And a rug for the dog.

[@moonpie3426]

I like the Row siblings I wish they would add them more

[@enbyyellowpaladin5877]

I don’t know how to explain it but I got a lot of Joker 2019 film vibes from this comic

[@jamcalx]

If you ever make Merch, there should be a "LAYERS" T-shirt.

[@Machowesker17]

A bit heavy handed but overall, I liked it and have high hopes for Punchline. Hopefully she doesn't become just a flavor of the week and gets forgotten in six months. We'll see how it goes. Edit: I forgot to mention that yeah, I'm one of those people who doesn't read that many comics and get introduced out of nowhere to all these new characters was a bit confusing. I just took it how it came and ran with it but having the small backstory you gave about these characters have made me look at this story more deeply. So thanks for that.

[@LUISPRIME]

Isn't Dr. Leslie Thompkins a regular type doctor? You know a doctor that heals the body and not the mind. Why was she at the trial giving her opinion of Punchline mental health?

[@tomorrow4eva]

Leslie is a GP and a surgeon and a mental health professional. She's probably a paediatrician as well. She's like the scientists from the Golden Age - oh, you do medicine? Therefore you do all the medicine! Yeah, my first thought when the judge called her was also: hang on, since when is she a mental health professional? And where does she get time while running her free clinic to participate in trials as an expert witness? Does she need the money? I agree with Sasha that there are a lot of reality things this storyline glosses over in order to tell its story without obstacles and to involve characters we know.

[@josephb1884]

I enjoyed your in-depth analysis and how you picked up on very subtle things that someone casually glossing over the book might have missed. This is my favorite video that you've done to date. Thanks for the 23:27

[@blotcho84]

Just found this channel, love the comics coverage! This whole Punchline plot is great and suspenseful, but in other breaking news I am *living* for Leslie Thompkins' chunky highlights ~

[@CatNagTaylorsVersion]

Unpopular opinion:this story makes me feel like she is a Harley Quinn copy. I get a lot of similarities between this issue and the episode Harleys Holiday from Batman the animated series

[@SageOfLimitlessHands]

I love Punchline as a character. To he a character so tied to Joker and be so different from him and Harley really shocked me. I can see her using her media influence in a way to alter the perspective of many in ways Joker never could yet I wouldn't say the converts conviction would be as strong. Who knows though.

[@estelaangeles2346]

Punchline is not different and harley was evil too but the joker hates harley for no reason and punchline is an obssesed joker fangirl

[@SageOfLimitlessHands]

@@estelaangeles2346 Your response tells me all I need to know about ya slick

[@geekgirlsreviews5978]

Wait Gotham have a death penatly. Can see Joker getting around it due to being crazy...if you stretch that defense to comic book level. But Penguin, Hush, Black Mask, should all get it..since their body count Not Joker high but High. And not CRAAAZY crazy. Penguin pretty much sane so is black mask

[@vshazam]

Penguin and Black Mask have the advantage of Gotham corruption, it's why they're not even locked up 90+% of the time.

[@WarmLillie]

Omg!!! I love your hair.

[@zdl1157]

When I think I finally know the whole batfam another character pops up...

[@MosaicComics]

I know, it's a great feeling :)

[@constipatedinsincity4424]

Sasha Wooo, I think that you're Punchlines twin. It's clearly evident in your recent look. Working her colors and them bangs!

[@vernonjohnson819]

I see the reminder that crazy doesn't mean stupid. This seems like a set up for something really insanely intelligent and twisted in Punchline's near future. I am also seeing the writer playing on the way the media (the internet) can paint a picture to pull you in any direction if you don't stay objective. Harley is mostly crazy fun, this girl is crazy deadly, very deadly ans scary creepy. Loving your videos, wish I had the money for the comic.

[@illistfloo]

Pretty sure blue bird had the blue streak first, I love her look:p Grayson my favorite, I wanna see a nightwing and bluebird run like batman and robin

[@illistfloo]

Also the reason u think Dcs obsessed with 52 is because at the time it was the 52nd anniversary of the company's fortune

[@danaohdeliciouswhite8515]

They live in a reality where the internet is forgiving.

[@younghan3573]

Punchline's courtroom scene reminds me of lisabeth in "girl with the dragon tattoo" trilogy.... Swedish version

[@markhardiman1179]

I love how you style your hair to match the characters. Very cool.✌🏿👏🏿🖖🏿

[@zufalllx]

There needs to be a way to ignore the algorithm. When I do a search, I want what I typed, not what it thinks i might have wanted.

[@kevinjones4001]

The changing of hairstyles is fascinating. For some reason it makes me enjoy your commentary more. I think it’s the contrast between the jovial yet academic tone of your voice. “Edgy hair, wholesome voice”. LOL. Anyway I appreciate these videos. They take my work-from-home stress away.

[@jessielefey]

It's the first thing that's made her interesting to me. I don't think it handled the things it wanted to discuss perfectly, but yeah. It got closer than the few others that tried, and it'll only get hashed out through meta-conversation and you can't have a conversation with only one voice. It's not this comic's fault it's so far a monologue, time will fix that. So... yeah. Props for that, and props for being an adult who's actually met a kid recently (the writer I mean), even if some of the nuances are lost. Better attempt than most; if I was still a kid I feel like I wouldn't've felt patronized to, which is a nice change.

[@zaharabliss106]

NGL if that apology was in our world girl would have gotten dragged

[@ken.droid-the-unique]

I love your content. Your videos are the only ones I am guaranteed to watch as soon as I'm notified. Keep trucking.

[@redAngel5567]

I mean Punchline made "tiger king" for herself.

[@CHEESEPUFF_7]

Me hearing BlueBird is here: *happy gasp*

[@Loboto_Mia]

I really enjoyed the Issue 1, I'm so happy that she's not a joker victim! She has so much potential to be an amazing villain. I definitely want her to go her separate way to the joker so we can see her true potential. Also I love the fact that she has a fandom and she uses internet and social media to her advantage. ALSO: I just think there should be more people against punchline, everyone seems to like her so easily for no reason, she still killed was friend with joker so...yeah

[@estelaangeles2346]

Punchline shouldnt exist because i thought the joker hates romance

[@matthewpopow6647]

"Not murder..." Didn't she admit to murdering the homeless... and record it?

[@dejaypage1575]

So Punchline is kinda like Tim in a sense? Inspired by one of the biggest names in Gotham city, went on to study them after a fateful encounter, and developed skills to get into the Life

[@Joe1339]

LOVED the backstory and social commentary ! I don’t even read these comics and I’ve been following your videos on Punchline.

[@magpiefrommars3614]

Where’s my Joker fish plush DC?!

[@Trodorne]

I think the issue brings up a good point of how gotham city allows this whole circus to keep going. its like they want to encourage more masked super villainy as long as the body counts remain low because then the city can make a mint on sales of their antics. especially when they have super theatrics to happen from the heroes as well. make me believe that Gotham is not any place I would want to move to ever and id only visit as a once in a lifetime visit and never come back

[@MidnightIsolde]

I love the joker fish take in Punchline 1. I think the rest is meh, but the idea that the city owns the copyright and sells a plushie is a great idea

[@BHRamsay]

I'm getting the idea that the book is taking the fame of Harley Quinn and asking what might happen if this actually happened to someone and how they'd react

[@theodorejenkins6066]

You have some really good insights into how the comic is written and I really like how you break everything down. Subscribed just because you seem to be a lot smarter than most people I've seen on KZbin.

[@potato_oni7597]

I can most certainly say that Tynion doesn't understand how the internet works. There'd be no way in hell for Punchline to gain such a momentum and actually increase it. She'd be labeled a Lolcow already. Then there's another issue: 1. became obsessed with the Joker during school/uni and has actively been trying to get in touch with him from then on 2. is clearly addicted to attention 3. considers the Joker a genius for his antics 4. is self centered 5. is manipulative, using people as pawns to get her way Soooo.... how exactly is she any different than Harley? Like, at all. It's literally Harley's pre-New52 origin and mindset. The only real difference here is that Punchline isn't a naturally cheerful person. Tynion just copy-pasted her and slapped another design on even though he claimed he's gonna create Harley's polar opposite (wich actually would be any given Batgirl but whatever). The character continues to be a mediocre letdown and Tynion's work on Batman is somehow even more lackluster than King's. Atleast the later tried.... something... I guess.... Also, Gotham doesn't reside in a state with the death sentence. Well, technically. While the state of New York (where Gotham and Metropolis are located alongside the city of New York... very crowded there) does still have the death sentence, it had been ruled unconstitutional and hasn't been enforced since 1963. So not only does Tynion not know anything about the internet, he also doesn't know anything about the franchise he's been working with now and about any real world legislative decisions.

[@EsahnDulin]

Your videos have basically become the only thing that keeps me interested is comics at this point. Keep up the great work!