Purina Pet food Killing pets?

[@rebeccamontague9811]

Social media has a very toxic side that frequently overshadows any positives. THANK YOU for this report!

[@AnimalDocRea]

I want to be the Non-toxic alternative for you all

[@MonicaDogs4ever]

Thank you for the update. I agree, time to move on from the bad publicity. 🐾

[@brittany3462]

Can you do a review on fancy feast at some point ? Go over a few diff lines within fancy feast like their classic pate and the medleys. ? I’m interested to know if the mineral content etc is appropriate. Thanks !

[@InLv4u2]

My cat died at a young age and what I was feeding was Purina Fancy Feast 💔

[@theresakuhn6380]

Thank you for what you do! I feed my dog PurinaPro Plan Sensitive Skin and Stomach, she has always itched and licked paws on and off. My vet says it’s environmental. Minerals are in the ranges you’ve recommended, also one of the vets in the practice feeds her GSD the same. Thank you again

[@AnimalDocRea]

Your welcome

[@edschulhof6303]

The FDA summary page stated that they only investigated 8.2% of the 1300 reports. The FDA inspection of the Iowa plant, ended May 2. It was a typical compliance inspection, not a "for cause" inspection based on adverse event reports.

[@AnimalDocRea]

My understanding is that they only investigated reports that met certain criteria such as having a vet examine the patient at the time of illness. May be cynical, but I wouldn’t be surprised in this instance, if a large number of people reported illness without ever taking the pet in for evaluation, Wich would result in the case being “disqualified” for further investigation. I also assume the type of inspection performed is contingent on the actual number of legitimate claims filed. Otherwise the agency would be launching costs investigations without true need. I see it all the time for example with “vaccine reactions”. A client will tell me they can’t vaccinate their pet this year because last year their pet almost died after vaccines. But I never heard from them at the time, they never got emergency care, and they never mentioned it at any other visit. Makes it hard to take someone seriously and report it to a company as a true adverse event because if they truly had a reaction and was dying, the pet would have needed medical attention or at least warranted a call to the office to indicate the concern.

[@edschulhof6303]

@@AnimalDocRea I generally agree with you. But why did the FDA do an inspection? And only a compliance inspection? If the reports sent them there, they should have done an adverse event inspection. The FDA's action makes no sense. And feeds into the conspiracy theories.

[@AnimalDocRea]

Not sure, can’t say what the procedures are that dictate what type of inspection they do or what even is done in one inspection vs another.

[@JulietPisha]

Thank you for pointing social nedia influence on us and everyone around us. It is dangerous. And thank you for this video! Happy you will be reviewing Open Farms. Also can you review Health Extension cat canned food and Fussie Cat can pretty please sometime in the future? ❤

[@Purplesquigglystripe]

Under the reviews for every food of any brand, there’s always someone saying their pet got sick from it

[@AnimalDocRea]

Same about any medication

[@edschulhof6303]

Which is why any new food needs to be introduced slowly. You can say the same about people. Everyone and every pet is different. I can't have green bell peppers or caffeine. Happy Purrsday!

[@TheFeralFerret]

Anecdotes are indeed anecdotes! I guess we should try to rely on actual information and the opinion of experts then, eh? ;)

[@edschulhof6303]

@@TheFeralFerret There is a difference between a review and saying all of brand X is bad. Several commercial foods make my cats throw up. If anyone asks, I tell them. That is actual information. But I don't go online and say no one should buy those foods because they will make all pets sick. And I never posted a negative review of those foods.

[@Fabhuntress]

We literally have a new generation of dumb. Thank you for always being the voice of reason.

[@inspector4133]

Thanks for this. I don't feed my animals Purina, but it's not because I think it's a bad food (I have satisfactorily fed hundreds of animals on Purina products for years, as I was growing up and working on a farm), I just think the one I currently feed my pets is better. People have ALWAYS wanted someone or something to blame whenever something bad happens. It's just human nature, and social media fans that flame. There will always be people who think the worst of any company or the governmental agencies, and sadly their fear and lack of knowledge can spur them to feeding their pets something that they "think" is safe, but which is actually an unscientific and unhealthy diet. People don't understand so much about science and research. This is perfect example of the Dunning-Kruger Effect.

[@AnimalDocRea]

Awesome comments

[@UntilWeRich]

Social media has really gotten out of control in my opinion.

[@jayden1996b]

It's wild how people will instantly believe vague Facebook anecdotes and not evaluate their sources.

[@AnimalDocRea]

It’s an emotional driven response vs logic

[@AshleyKarys]

I am sure Purina has some decent foods. But every single product I’ve looked up of theirs for cats has excessive mineral contents for calcium and phosphorus. The only products with decent calcium and phosphorus that I have found are there therapeutic diets.

[@AnimalDocRea]

Good observation. Those minerals are very important for our feline friends. That’s what I prefer to focus on, nutrition, not gossip.

[@AshleyKarys]

@@AnimalDocRea Me too! I have no problem with Purina. I am like you. Show me the nutrients! It’s important our feline friends have low phosphorus and calcium. Especially during their golden years! It’s very hard to find a commercial cat food that fits this criteria. Only a few brands that I have come across actually have low mineral content (aside from therapeutic diets of course).

[@AnimalDocRea]

@AshleyKarys did you check out the chart from Tanya’s list?

[@TJ-kz1ul]

The Purina One Urinary Care has good nutrients for cats. The Pet Food Puzzle Guy did a review of this food and he had good things to say about it. It's cheaper than the Science Diet Oral Care kibble I'm buying my cats. I'd love to switch, but both my cats have bad teeth, so this is what I have to buy them.

[@AshleyKarys]

@@TJ-kz1ulMy cats eat HSD Oral Care too! They love it but they’re getting chunky on it cause it’s high in calories. I am going to switch them to Hills T/D as it’s significantly lower in calories.

[@joyfuller5972]

I feel silly asking but I can’t figure out how to become a member. Where should I look?

[@AnimalDocRea]

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[@joyfuller5972]

@@AnimalDocReathank you!

[@AmericanHuskyCash]

I trust the FDA about as far as I trust the Federal Government lol

[@AnimalDocRea]

Absolutely, but in the absence of any other real investigation that’s what we have

[@TuxieTude]

@@AmericanHuskyCash Agreed 💯

[@KittensAreAngry]

I understand where you're coming from but logically it doesn't make sense. You would rather trust uneducated people on Facebook and other social media with zero education?

[@adriankap2978]

I found out after suffering with my 15yr old pup of him licking his feet bald and a quarter inch around both eyes missing hair every year. I always thought if it was the environment or food, I've changed his food and finally found a great mix that has stopped his shedding by 95% (he's a Jack Russel/Corgi mix) and normally shed like crazy, he has soft smooth foot pads and pretty healthy so the Vet was very pleased. This year I was late getting him vaccinated and within a couple of days he was licking his feet. Bingo! After research I found out no matter the size of the adult dog (my dog is 22lbs) they are all given the same amount of vaccine. When I spoke to the Vet tech she said they do that with all dogs whether they're 10lbs or 100lbs, they get the same. People blame dog food etc just like I did when in reality it's vaccines, at least with mine. From now on I'll be doing Titers Testing starting next year. He was just vax'd in late July. I'm sick over this and nothing I can do.

[@AnimalDocRea]

Titers can be a good option for some

[@AnimalDocRea]

That low volume has nothing to do with the amount of biologic. Let’s keep this on topic. vaccines and the appropriateness of what a pet needs depends on many variables and should only be discussed with your individual veterinarian. Way too complex for an internet comment section.

[@Marfmellow88]

Size of the animal isn't relevant with vaccines. Same with human vaccines...a 100lb woman gets the same vaccine a 300lb man gets. The vaccine (usually a modified-live virus vaccine) stimulates your immune system to recognize the virus so it understands how to fight off a live version of the virus in the event of an infection. Your pet could be allergic to the adjuvants put into vaccines in order to transport them into the body. Some vaccines are far more reactive than others, ie Rabies vaccines cause the most allergic reactions. Also, your pet shouldn't receive a vaccine if their immune system is compromised, ie. fever, illness, infection, injury etc.

[@JBTexas]

Which brand would you recommend for a mastibull ? Currently give him purina one large breed chicken flavor, but his poop is never solid. He’s 3 years old and weighs around 150 pounds and been on purina puppy and the large breed since 3 months and poop has never been solid.

[@AnimalDocRea]

There is a range of acceptable firmness that can be normal. images.app.goo.gl/pnRREqgBFfaPvBC7A Depending on where and how often your pet is in a certain category would indicate what what degree of work up is necessary. I would seek a diagnosis for the chronic loose stool vs assuming it is diet related. If diet is considered part of the treatment plan, then your vet should be able to make the appropriate recommendations to treat disease. It would be inappropriate for me (or anyone on the internet) to make a nutritional recommendation to manage disease without first seeing and diagnosing pet. I would however say in general a large breed should not be receiving puppy food after 9-12 months.

[@JBTexas]

@@AnimalDocRea I switched him slowly into large breed at 10-12 months. After 12 he was on adult food. I know he doesn’t chew as he should. I’ve tried slow feeding bowls but he still eats at same rate without it. He’s is well maintain, proper diet, not over weight, healthy and walks daily. It’s just he’s poop is never solid. Not diarrhea buy very loose. It’s been almost a year since going to vet but they said he was healthy overall and tried probiotics and forgot what else they recommended but nothing my works. They did say it also has to do with him not chewing his food. Don’t like switching food that often but was considering Diamond naturals large breed lamb and rice as the ingredients used to me seem better than in purina one.

[@AnimalDocRea]

@JBTexas I’m not familiar with loose stool presenting from not chewing food. That is not commonly on the differential. If that was the case, perhaps consider soaking the food or feeding canned, but I’d be investigating that more. Perhaps seeing an internist?

[@angelagracia1121]

Any way you’d do a review of the entire Blue Buffalo line? Thanks Dr. Rea!

[@AnimalDocRea]

That may be a really big series!

[@angelagracia1121]

@@AnimalDocRea true, would you at least be willing to go over the Life Protection one?

[@joanstapelfeldt8361]

Can you also do the wilderness salmon or duck with grains line?

[@AnimalDocRea]

@angelagracia1121 I’m willing to do a couple for sure

[@IceRiver1020]

One possibility I think of whenever people say that a food made their cat sick is the fact that you're supposed to introduce a new food to your cat slowly (maybe dogs too? I'm less familiar, I don't own dogs) to avoid upsetting their digestive system with the new food, and not everyone knows that this is an issue, so they'll switch foods too fast, make their pet sick, and then blame the food. I know people who've told me that they can't give their cats wet food because when they gave them a wet food one day it made them sick, and I have to explain to them that the new food (in and of itself) may not have been the issue.

[@edl653]

Yup, folks on the net can be awful. 1st is the impersonal nature allows them to be nasty, though being nasty adds nothing to a discussion. 2nd folks get partial information, think they are then experts and understand a topic in depth and come to conclusion that may or may not be true. Lastly with trolls, sales/click folks and genuine educators, it is difficult tell what information has integrity and what is BS. Note that information with integrity may still be incorrect. Knowledge changes over time as new evidence comes to light and previously unknown factors come into play. So, when taking in information, verify with other sources, don't assume the worst but also remain critical. - TikTok should not be the source of your information for life choices. - Remember coincidence and correlation does not mean causation.

[@AnimalDocRea]

Love all this! Especially the correlation/causation. that’s like my daily song and dance of “re-education”.

[@gracepark8242]

Thank you!

[@AnimalDocRea]

You're welcome!

[@joelhidalgo1677]

Could you review Canidae Pure Goodness dog food Salmon - adult dog food. I have a large breed golden retriever 77lbs. - Thank you.

[@edschulhof6303]

You want light? Did you use a different microphone? The sound is very "thin" as if the bass were turned way down. Did you know that Colbie and Panda's favorite singer is CAT Stevens? LOL Happy Purrsday Eve!

[@AnimalDocRea]

No, I turned on my new air conditioner and it messed up the sound

[@ngarci8040]

Ok pretty much good news bad news, No significant reasons to believe any contaminants in the food itself BUT the failure to take initiative and do an internal reanalysis is concerning… anyways thank you for taking the time to update us…👍

[@AnimalDocRea]

I think it’s important to understand the citation wasn’t for not checking for safety, it was for not updating a safety plan. The plan may not have needed updating since there was actually no issue… it’s a technicality, at least that’s how I read it.

[@ngarci8040]

⁠@@AnimalDocRea oic, I understood it as they didn’t react and the FDA dinged them for the non reaction… ty for the clarification

[@AnimalDocRea]

That my understanding of how it reads, I could be mistaken

[@raveygravey972]

I love this channel because you are so neutral. No bias for any certain food. You just look at the science, research and facts in each food.

[@AnimalDocRea]

I appreciate that!

[@houndlander]

@@raveygravey972 I agree

[@kafani12]

YOUR READY YO MOVE ON!

[@charleslehrke468]

Intro too long. Get to the point

[@AnimalDocRea]

Thanks for the feedback.

[@edschulhof6303]

@@AnimalDocRea YT has a fast forward option. Just saying. LOL

[@AnimalDocRea]

I usually try to do chapters or time stamps but this was kind of straight I forward I thought. Personally I watch all videos on 2x speed so I rarely find videos to be to slow.

[@edschulhof6303]

@@AnimalDocRea Are you sure you want us watching you at 2x speed? LOL

[@AnimalDocRea]

I watch myself on 2 speed when I edit! But no, I get half the view time if you do 😂

[@Jaycv-dq3rg]

Why would anyone feed there dog Purina dog food its mostly grains and it has 3d meats in it

[@emerson23946]

The millions of dollars of scientific research they put into their R&D maybe to start with

[@AnimalDocRea]

You will have to be more specific as to Wich “purina” food you are talking about. They have a very large portfolio across many different price points. Your statement is overly broad and therefore inaccurate.

[@houndlander]

@@emerson23946 it bothers me that dog food companies keep getting bought out and quality suffers.

[@katiehitt7270]

The fda doesn't allow 4d meats in pet food

[@edschulhof6303]

@@katiehitt7270 Doesn't mean it can't happen. The University of New Mexico studied six dog food brands, published Jan 6, 2023 by the American Chemical Society. All six brands contained from 12 to 17 unlisted ingredients. Two brands included dog DNA. Several brands did not contain ingredients that were listed. The study did not name the brands.

[@sgonzo5572]

you are being way too sympathetic giving reasons why purina petfood would not be responsible. Just give the facts. You look invested in Purina

[@peep3616]

But they weren’t? And there are no facts saying they were responsible

[@sgonzo5572]

@peep3616 yea thats the point. She's giving hypothetical reasons.

[@AnimalDocRea]

I was reading the report, I’m not sure how to get closer to the facts. I’m also explaining the process. It would apply to any company. How I look however is through the lens’s of the observer and you are certainly entitled to your vision. They literally found no health concerns, those are the facts, it’s not hypothetical.

[@sgonzo5572]

​@AnimalDocRea @AnimalDocRea yes I'm talking about after you read they found no adverse effects. Starting at around @4:45 you make a comparison to Salem witch trails. Sail the fear in reporting was probably social media influenced. Then make a crazy example that a dog ate some Purina and slipped its back ( funny but it does downplay it a bit). Then just attribute that the dog's problems weren't Purina related. And they investigated this by how? By checking new bags of Purina a year later? Purina by then could have changed their quality control or manufacturing proces after the reporting. They wouldn't know because the dogs are already dead and probably made to ashes already. Also it's not likely they asked for the medical records of all these dogs. But what else could they do?

[@sgonzo5572]

​@@AnimalDocRea @AnimalDocRea yes I'm talking about after you read they found no adverse effects. Starting at around @4:45 you make a comparison to Salem witch trails. Sail the fear in reporting was probably social media influenced. Then make a crazy example that a dog ate some Purina and slipped its back ( funny but it does downplay it a bit). Then just attribute that the dog's problems weren't Purina related. But they investigate by checking bags of Purina a year later? When Purina could have changed their quality control or manufacturing process. Also these dogs died a year ago and earlier. And it's not likely they went to investigate these dogs medical records. And if they did, what could they do? Dogs are already dead and made to ashes. They aren't trying to find dead doggos to further find their cause of death being related to purina or not.