Mojang Is About To RUIN Redstone

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[@Purplers]

Yes, these changes are just experimental and are nowhere near finalised, this is just my honest criticism of them coming from the POV of someone who has been doing redstone a very long time. I really like some of the changes, but some of them break too much stuff, when it is definitely possible to get similar results without breaking so much stuff. Some other problems with the snapshot: bugs.mojang.com/browse/MC-275437 bugs.mojang.com/browse/MC-275397

[@user-zd9od8nr7n]

I’m not a professional redstoner, but I’ve watched enough of your videos to know that this will ruin redstone

[@PacoTacoGamer]

Real

[@user-zd9od8nr7n]

But some of this could be used to make simpler randomisers. Edit: not too much simpler but maybe more useful for builds when you don’t have space for hoppers

[@Eliiscool1500]

4th

[@nessunonessun1]

They want to make game easyer for new players killing wolds of people that play from more then 1 year 🎉 This is the worst update I ever saw. I prefer to stop playing Minecraft then update to this. I wonder why they do not just add a new minecart and new rails that act im a new and different way so people can chose on the base of theyr need with out removing old circuits. About redstone update order. Just no way. Just NO. I can delet my 2 years world if I update to this.... 💀

[@Paint_The_Future]

"...which is a part of Carpet mod, and I don't know if Mojang looked at those mods, but..." The author of the Carpet mod now works for Mojang. I think he might have seen it.

[@jubal6654]

Then they should know better then shipping out this

[@noxmore]

@@jubal6654 They didn't, it's locked behind an experiment. Also, in the article they say "Please note that the experimental features behind this toggle are not aimed at any future release at this time. Instead, this is a place for us to try out changes and gather feedback."

[@humourlessjester3584]

​​@@jubal6654It's an experimental feature. It's meant for public testing, not as a finished product. Some bugs will go under the cracks, consider this something even more volatile than snapshots with a higher likelihood of getting scrapped and changed. This is also why these aren't bug fixed as rigorously, why expend so much resources on a feature that we're not sure on? This is exactly why mojang no longer reveals anything to us during updates because people over react for unofficial features, just accept that not everything mojang publishes will officially be in the game and the community will be all the better for it.

[@DonReal-1]

​@@jubal6654It's an experimental feature. If this was added on a release maybe we can start panicking. The community needs to tell mojang about all of these issues we see on this video. I truly think they will understand and maybe revert the changes. Note: Im not native English speaker so, sorry if i commit mistakes 😅

[@chear8145]

@@jubal6654 wdym shipping out this its a experiment you need to turn on and in a snapshot?? this is basically a demo of a idea they had.

[@Tsunamicat108]

Who’s ready for the video with a grass block surrounded by lava called “Mojang Is About To RUIN Minecraft”

[@i_am_called_glitchy]

not needed, already done countless times

[@You_Ate_My_Soap]

Well they kind of did but I really don’t care enough

[@henrythearcticwolf4709]

I hope that never has to happen

[@niftylittlename]

​@@henrythearcticwolf4709 it happens 300 times per day, bro. That and the grass block + falling graph.

[@vusherman1125]

wdym?

[@Mogswamp]

Wow, that minecart stacking change needs to be reverted ASAP. That one seems bad even for people that don't even usually touch redstone or minecarts, like myself.

[@Shadowspeedstr]

I agree cart traps are ruined with it

[@samuelspace101]

Don’t worry, they’ve stated on the community page that this is an experimental snapshot to gather feedback, so they will probably revert anything hugely unpopular, but it also means some of the good things may not be in the main game either. Edit: the point of an experiment snapshot is to gather feedback and showcase what can be done, not add stuff to the game.

[@nohax3691]

ikr

[@TheHerald615]

@@samuelspace101They probably won’t. It’s Mojang. You know when they changed the copper bulbs pace to 2 ticks again?

[@nicolaecalin4217]

Yes

[@SemiHypercube]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="237">3:57</a> I would be shocked if Mojang didn't look at Carpet mod for that, the developer of the mod actually works for Mojang now

[@DarkHawking]

Go Gnembon, it's your turn!

[@IDKisReal2401]

Yeah it's probably just broken since it's a super beta within a beta ETA none feature that openly states this _will_ have mayor bugs

[@Dewaxel]

They probably silence you as you start working for Mojang as it seems

[@daniiii888]

@@Dewaxelyeah they gotta be careful otherwise the Mojang hitman will get em

[@shrub8644]

@@Dewaxel NDA stuff

[@samuelspace101]

I really hope Mojang continues to do these experimental snapshots, it will prevent a lot of things the community doesn’t like, and it will be cool to see what is possible within the game, it will also be a great way to prevent major exploits from entering the main game.

[@zydn]

as long as they revert everything besides the minecarts being faster and being able to jump. and being more accurate I guess. everything else is horrible

[@DarkHawking]

​@@zydn Nah the new dust update order makes redstone more predictable, the problem is with the dust not updating blocks and minecarts not being stackable for some reason.

[@zydn]

@@DarkHawking update order is already predictable. this introduces randomness to a completely deterministic system, which makes it NOT more predictable, but more intuitive. average person following a tutorial or whatever is NOT going to care about update order mechanics in the slightest, making them more intuitive quite literally does not matter at all. all this does is break preexisting contraptions and removes locationality, which the latter part is a good thing but i'd way rather have locationality than completely fuck up every complicated contraption.

[@MinetestSore12]

⁠@@zydnit’s not the predictability that completely messes with the redstone builds, it’s what they did to optimize the redstone’s performance. Major difference there. The predictability that the person above mentioned WAS referring to locationality, not overall predicableness. This system is flawed, but then again what is on its first implementation? Give them time to adapt to the community’s feedback, make the system better so it DOESNT break anyone’s builds, THEN see if you think the same thing.

[@The.Sponge]

@@zydn Damn so all the 200+ bugfixes should be reverted. Thats kinda dumb. Also the performance fixes?

[@JKM115]

Waiting for a video called "Mojang is about to ruin lava" so the thumbnail can be just the lava

[@marcuscooper9658]

*Mojang Is About To RUIN Lava

[@Fluppy-Forever]

Mojang FORGOT about Minecraft!

[@RussianSpy4632]

No it has to be a lava source block surrounded by photoshopped grass blocks "flowing" like re-textured lava

[@TheTuxedoCreeper]

​@@RussianSpy4632 🚫

[@kr_ykoo]

PLEASE. WE NEED MOJANG TO RUIN LAVA. a thumbnail like that would be so hilarious

[@ZZZZierra]

"make java and bedrock redstone the same!" "WAIT NO NOT LIKE THAT"

[@the_rats_are_coming]

i dont want redstone bad in both versions 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@peachleek8526]

Yeah I understand you

[@damri_notfound]

LLMAO

[@madcaker]

Wrong way When the majority of the redstone community is on java I have no clue why they would bring bedrock stuff to java

[@WLF98]

​@@madcaker sake of parity and so Java players stop hating the other version for once (impossible).

[@Daxis1]

I was considering making a video about the redstone changes, then I remembered you exist.

[@PacoTacoGamer]

lol ikr

[@filthychurch]

make one anyway my dude

[@justinpoblete9303]

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOO

[@Foxxey0]

Hehhee hakuna matata am i right

[@ZiaGameDev]

For making content just go for it lol. Dozens of youtubers will have made videos on this exact subject by now. Just do your thing put your own humor on it etc away you go!

[@Aphelia.]

I want to be able to connect minecarts and make them a little train

[@DrPeeper]

Doesn't the furnace minecart do that?

[@philipplins2012]

Furnace minecarts already do that

[@AgentEm34]

It sounds like this may actually be happening

[@DrPeeper]

@@AgentEm34 have you looked at the other replies? It already exists.

[@anoukk_]

with chains! And yes it was already possible by pressing minecarts together or something but it was pretty bad.

[@porterbrown836]

forget every single issue of this experimental snapshot, that redstone torch texture is peak

[@blackhole99021]

Fr. The minecart thing is also camman's dream lol (more speed)

[@kavitaambatkar9417]

Yeah I like the new texture for it but it is a little too pinkish. They should make some small adjustments to make it like more dark hot red , hot orange or just some orangish or yellowish

[@fauxhuman0]

i dont like it at all, its too bright imo

[@dantekiwi7926]

@@fauxhuman0miniscule issue

[@guest_4416]

​@@fauxhuman0it is a torch after all

[@GwnTim1]

There is something weirdly comedic about the opening sequence of broken zero tick doors, they kinda remind me of those clickbait thumbnails of redstone tutorials

[@WLF98]

I find it funny how none of these would work in Bedrock and now that they do parity, Java players will probably be crying themselves to bed until they undo the changes.

[@Candlemancer]

​@@WLF98 I mean yeah, people tend to be unhappy when their game gets downgraded to be more like a worse version of the game

[@WLF98]

@@Candlemancer people are also unhappy when their game gets shit on for being "the worst" even though it's what they could afford and the best they can get. Sorry but if I'm being honest, Java players kinda deserve a change like this to make them realize they could always suffer the same or worse fate as Bedrock. It's not like either version ever deserved to be "better", if anything they should have been the exact same from the start, but apparently that's too complicated to do all of a sudden.

[@bloomball356]

@@WLF98 so you can afford bedrock but can't afford java? lol alright bud.

[@astrobee6278]

@@WLF98 ​Why are you butthurting so bad. You probably heard a few people talk shit about bedrock version and now you're simply convinced that this is the revenge you're looking for against all of the java players. I don't even do redstone but it's funny to see a random guy getting butthurt over practically nothing, it's just a game. And from what you said, why do you assume that java is supposedly the "better" version, probably heard that from the same guys that talk shit about the bedrock version eh? Just have fun duh, you're on the internet there's ton of different viewpoints, make up your own instead of fixating on that only one negative viewpoint. It's literally the same as valorant vs csgo it's funny cuz it's meaningless debate. Just play what you want to play and the internet is filled with negative thoughts so if you're just happen to come across a video "comparing" the 2 version then just don't watch just so you won't get offended. Free your mind bud it's the internet.

[@kingyonatan2223]

No stacking minecarts is insane. Think about all the traps that use stacked TNT minecarts that no longer work anymore.

[@bell2023]

As he shows in the video, they can still be made. It just takes slightly more effort.

[@Kirill17]

And they also immediately explode if you update a world using it or stsck it with the method he shows

[@glauberglousger956]

You can still stack them though?

[@annabunni64]

Not TNT Minecarts, they explode the moment they collide with the other minecarts with any velocity above 0. This breaks stacking TNT Minecarts specifically.

[@KwikBR]

@@annabunni64 almost all TNT minecart traps stack them

[@toniee98]

hey, at least roller coasters are gonna be WAY cooler

[@d1nodray]

But at what cost..?

[@oratios21]

thats the fun part, they wont. server lag will prevent them from being smooth on higher speeds than the current one!!

[@TheTuxedoCreeper]

​@@oratios21 Damn could you imagine?

[@BiscuitBricks]

As a bedrock player, I confirm restone *sucks*

[@PacoTacoGamer]

Literally me

[@BlueKirby808]

As another bedrock player, I 100% agree

[@grilledcheesesentries5483]

Restone

[@grilledcheesesentries5483]

@@BlueKirby808 same

[@brownjames112]

As another longtime Bedrock player I actually find Bedrock Redstone easier to get my head around than Java's as I every time I play Java I accidentally get directionality or QC issues that would never be an issue with BR. Yeah I would like to have zero tick sticky pistons but I've worked without them for so long I have got used to the alt.

[@alptunaozcelik2871]

Ah just as I thought that purpler wasn’t going to make a video

[@Purplers]

sorry to disappoint lol

[@lazybook6521]

@@PurplersAs a Bedrock player, i glad you guys feel our pain (btw quantiy connectitert suck, simple better)

[@Ekipsogel]

@@lazybook6521quasi connectivity

[@soofeesh]

@@lazybook6521 quantiy connectitert?

[@lazybook6521]

@@soofeesh yos

[@emmetbrickhacker5029]

Ok, I read release notes now, and I must say: "Calm down, man - they want to gather feedback!" In notes they say literaly this: "Please note that the experimental features behind this toggle are not aimed at any future release at this time. Instead, this is a place for us to try out changes and gather feedback. We are excited to hear what you think about these changes: please share your feedback on the feedpack page."

[@NoovGuyMC]

Isn't this video, a form of feedback?

[@emmetbrickhacker5029]

@@NoovGuyMC could be, but excludes really important information - that this is experimentl feature not intended to incorporate to core game any soon.

[@GrandProtectorDark]

@@NoovGuyMC The title "About to ruin Redstone", implies that those changes are final and slated for release at some point in the immediate future. Which is just blatantly false.

[@GreaterSlimey]

seems like they did parity with bedrock… but did it the wrong way

[@dfelipeg]

bedrock doesn't really have that update order, its just random every time i think

[@origamifolder2255]

This was exactally what I feared...

[@Athalos-uu8xf]

bedrock treatment coming to java

[@jenv.7995]

This isn’t really like bedrock tho

[@GreaterSlimey]

@@dfelipeg i’m mainly talking about how redstone blocks update in bedrock.

[@potatojuiceultra]

from the patch notes: "Please note that the experimental features behind this toggle are not aimed at any future release at this time. Instead, this is a place for us to try out changes and gather feedback." Mojang is actually asking for our feedback this time. They don't plan on implementing this anytime soon, so redstone probably isn't going to be ruined. So this is the community's opportunity to make our voice heard.

[@robblly8112]

it's a shame how many people don't read this and immediately go, "MOJANG JUST RUINED MINECRAFT!!!! REDSTONE IS BROKEN FOREVER!!!" or "THESE ARE THE ABSOLUTE WORST CHANGES" like bro this is your chance to give constructive feedback, they've asked for it.

[@Key-Knight87]

But my question is why though? Why try and "fix" something that isn't broken? These redstone changes are basically how bedrock redstone works, and we all know that the core redstone community hates how bedrock redstone functions. So why bring it here? My takeaway is that they should keep the new Minecraft physics and maybe the new torch texture, and literally get rid of everything else...

[@metalandmagic1424]

​@@Key-Knight87it IS broken, it runs like shit, has actual broken mechanics like the random update order, and has issues with consistency. The actual video you're commenting on SHOWS what was broken about old redstone. That's WHY they're trying to fix it.

[@Key-Knight87]

@@metalandmagic1424 Well if whatever Mojang is trying to "fix" causes this much uproar, then what we had couldn't be THAT bad to begin with. With how redstone originally worked on Java edition, it allowed for all sorts of creations that wouldn't be possible with the way redstone currently works on bedrock. Even I'm mainly a bedrock player, and I'll admit that Java has better redstone. I would hate for it come come to Java. My and many others takeaway from this snapshot, is Mojang trying to bring parity to Java by making the redstone match up with the inferior system. Instead of actually doing something people would appreciate like porting moveable containers or redstone running up walls, Mojang pulls something like this...

[@omegaxcution6092]

In summary: Redstone update order changes - Good Redstone block update changes - WHY!??!?!?!?!?!??!?!??!?!?

[@zydn]

update order changes suck too

[@omegaxcution6092]

@@zydn Well, they're mostly okay? The RNG in some cases is a little wack, but the more predictable ordering of pistons and whatnot makes sense imo. But yeah, still could use some improvement.

[@daniiii888]

@@zydnremoving locationality is a massive w

[@jacobrutzke691]

​@@zydnlocationality L

[@kristalsreal2736]

... You can place a copper bulb to cause block updates AT THE PLACE YOU REALLY NEED

[@aleks-ivanov]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="482">8:02</a> my ears...

[@dreiobsitue7748]

Oh, you heard that too?

[@aleks-ivanov]

@@dreiobsitue7748 afaik that's a Bluetooth codec issue

[@theredbeaniegang]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="18">0:18</a> Camman18 will probably be dancing in his room when he hears about this

[@yglyglya]

he already has a video

[@theredbeaniegang]

@@yglyglya Oh cool. I haven’t seen it

[@dayzlove4994]

​@@theredbeaniegangwatch it.

[@theredbeaniegang]

@@dayzlove4994 I will

[@KwikBR]

i really hope they don't keep the no minecart stacking, that completely destroys the best use of TNT minecarts

[@Riceguy-ql7ht]

its back

[@Faeolyn]

wth is that audio glitch at <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="481">8:01</a>, Jesus Christ... But besides that, yeah, some of the changes are quite problematic, but some others are actually great. I think it's pretty amazing that Mojang is FINALLY doing smth about stuff like this

[@psykat777]

Keep in mind that these are experimental features(like the bundles), so we don't actually know when these will be made mandatory for newer updates, if they ever will at all.

[@alexrecuenco]

Yeah. If he wants to be heard, Be more constructive, not just “change is bad, my things are broken now”

[@mofik26]

@@alexrecuenco I mean people generally don't like when their things are broken I guess

[@robblly8112]

@@mofik26 ...but they aren't broken. it's experimental, not an update. he should be more constructive about if the experimental breaks anything, because it's stupid to be mad over a non-update.

[@mofik26]

@@robblly8112 I know, I'm just saying that people are like that sometimes. Plus while they are experiments, their decision on implementing it will depend on peoples opinions like these. Honestly I didn't even see him being mad at it, just saying that it would break stuff.

[@robblly8112]

@@mofik26 the guy said to be more constructive instead of "change is bad, things are broken now" and you defended it by saying people don't like when their things break (akin to: upset at experimental). that's where i'm coming from.

[@keiyakins]

Some of these are bugs, and some of them are just good changes that make redstone more explicable. It's obviously not ready as is - that's why this is a snapshot build, not a release.

[@SamuelBoshier]

Yeah I get annoyed by the immediate backlash to anything that isn't exactly what one group wants. Like obviously the 0 tick stacked piston randomness is unintentional, and this is a *snapshot* so there's no reason to make it out like Mojang is intentionally doing that and that it's an urgent issue. And why should minecarts be able to stack like that? It makes some things easier, but it's nothing essential for stuff to work, and is strange behaviour to anyone not familiar with it. And with the note block noises a while back, instead of insisting the changes be reverted, why not suggest only full blocks mute them since they're almost always covered by a block or observer in redstone builds? Or if that's not enough, add redstone components to the list! I'm guessing some people at Mojang considered this, but decided against it for whichever reason. Then the very few times they have to be powered, it's just one more sound in what's likely a noisy machine already, like a door.

[@benroberts8363]

Go back to bedrock edition you worm

[@TiredMoonRabbit]

​@@SamuelBoshierjust make the hopper minecarts take blocks out fast, or allow the players in the game the ability to adjust it (like most people probably want with minecarts right now).

[@yglyglya]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="133">2:13</a> random number generator!

[@Monkeymario.]

YEAH but it breaks some redstone builds

[@omerbarnea16]

mojang said this is not the final version of redstone and minecarts.

[@Roaxial]

they also said they wanted feedback on it

[@Naldillo11]

@@Roaxialthey’re gonna get A LOT of feedback

[@TheTuxedoCreeper]

​@@Roaxial So is feedback bad? Sure they want feedback to see what players like, but that doesn't mean that'll be everything we get.

[@legionreal9999]

I hope they actually listen to the community with this one. It'd be a shame if they broke some of these features.

[@hercar20xx5]

I’m not really worried because all these changes are from the “experiments” tab which includes both bundles (which went under heavy rebalancing and changes) and villager trade rebalancing (which despite having been there for a few updates not has not yet been implemented) so these will probably at the very least go under big changes before releasing

[@sir_slimestone3797]

They won't, they never listen to the community, case and point copper bulbs. Still broken after months of overwhelmingly negative feedback.

[@ender0998]

​@@sir_slimestone3797tell me ure 10 without telling me ure 10

[@bajsapa3892]

@@ender0998 ure?

[@FlushDesert22]

@@sir_slimestone3797 I like how people pretend Mojang doesn't listen to the community whilst also wanting to get rid of the one thing they actually consider to be "listening to the community" aka. the mob vote.

[@chieseledboockshelf]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="177">2:57</a> the video Isn't 13 minutes long

[@Iamsilly895]

Believe it or not but while editing you are still actively editing the length of the video

[@TotallyMinecraft]

People it just means leet = 1337 it is a meme

[@OG4us]

I checked 😂

[@uzoay4302]

69 hours ago…

[@OG4us]

@@uzoay4302 I noticed that too

[@SusDoctor]

The best thing they did is definitely the Minecarts being able to jump across. That's dope, plus I love the animations, the rest is just kinda pointless.

[@breznknedl]

also the gamerule for minecart speed. I think more gamerules always improve the game because they dont force you to do anything you dont want

[@tempejkl]

@@breznknedlyeah but minecart speeds need to be doubled. Does gamerules like this one exist on bedrock?

[@breznknedl]

@@tempejkl not sure if it was implemented in the new beta aswell. I do not follow Bedrock updates as closely

[@TheTuxedoCreeper]

​@@breznknedl We don't have shit 😭

[@coneheadsilly]

remember: they stated that this is only experimental/testing and things can and will be changed in the future

[@creeps351]

Yes, but it's always good to give feedback. Especially in the early testing phase.

[@UncommonJester]

There's a terrible audio glitch at 8 minutes, so noise warning!!

[@Tomato-Icecream]

Lazy purplers HATES his community by including audio bugs in his videos. Purplers is about to RUIN youtube

[@tristanshaltz2769]

I'm glad this came out, I've wanted to hear your thoughts on it since the snapshot came. Thank you for not wasting any time over-explaining the changes, other channels often did that, and it's annoying when it's explained for the 4th time. Good thing Mojang aren't trying to rush this out, needs tweaking.

[@Funfactthisisahandle]

They aren’t. It’s testing ‘experimental’ for a reason. It is to see what the community likes and dislikes

[@RedStone576]

lol they will ruin it if the community likes the change and they will keep it if the community hates the change

[@CringyGull]

I'm glad that Mojang is experimenting with redstone, but gosh I hope they fix the stuff that's broken now

[@theredbeaniegang]

Hello Cringygull!!!

[@darkcode404]

Ive been waiting for a redstone youtuber to talk about the changes

[@sandsrhew1203]

So... Basically half of the complaints is that bugs don't work anymore?

[@lacosst0]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="230">3:50</a> gnembon (carpet dev) is literally mojang dev since ~2021-2022. Check his capes or youtube channel

[@CrystalFier]

Then he should put his own code into the game instead of this crap.

[@lacosst0]

@@CrystalFier There are a lot of problems with just straight up porting mod to minecraft's code. It's experimental feature, and the guy needs some time just to adapt some features of the mod. Mojang also need to make it as close to old as possible, as good as possible and as fast as possible. Just give them some time

[@4203105]

And he clearly didn't work on this, considering how jank it is.

[@4203105]

​@@lacosst0Gnembon already ported a bunch of carpet features to vanilla Minecraft, always making them better in the process. It's pretty clear to me that he didn't work on this.

[@Mabra51]

The dust not updating stuff looks a lot more like a side-effect bug than an intended feature.

[@bruhdab0776]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="23">0:23</a> bro is not anxiety

[@Darknes0001]

Real

[@UltimaIsZaddy]

wow this is a weird but all around decent update. checks bedrock👀💀💀

[@cach_dies]

I think a lot of the jankiness in the video are just bugs, this is an experimental feature after all, I like the new update rules for Redstone, I think they make a lot of sense.

[@benroberts8363]

You had no idea what you're talking about

[@TheTuxedoCreeper]

Block updates suck. But okay

[@Zireael83]

i hope mojang watches videos like this and reconsiders their changes

[@vilgotlindmoller4668]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="160">2:40</a> The only thing I'd like changed is that it would alternate instead of being random. I would like for hopper counters to still work

[@HappyGingerWolf]

This doesn't break hopper counters, a low strength piston remains extended even if a high strength piston pushes against it The difference is which activates first if both are powered in the same tick, which previously was random based on location and rotation, but now is true random

[@Mancakes_]

I feel like if mojang implements fixes found in mods , they're afraid of copyright issues or people complaining that the mods will be useless and hurt mod devs or something if they implement their features

[@GamerHouse2.0]

As a part of the minecraft redstone community this makes me sad 😢

[@housbous1096]

Blocks being powered through mid-air never made sense anyways...

[@Taren451]

the minecart stuff isnt bad imo the redstone not updating correctly is the only thing that is really bad

[@4203105]

The minecart stuff breaks literally everything I use minecarts for. They even drive through walls now. It's bonkers how broken it is.

[@Taren451]

@@4203105 well going through walls isnt good hadnt heard that but what were you using them for thats broken?

[@Imaginary12]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="254">4:14</a> uuuh. That is a beautifully simple memory gate, no?

[@svoidsofinfinitechaos9367]

The red stone changes are experimental, meaning that they are neither permanent nor the final iterations to the changes they want to make to red stone. And yet, people are already up in arms. They literally requested feedback. It’s not that dire.

[@benroberts8363]

Redstoners consider redstone there wife if somebody touch there wife all hell broke loose

[@Monkeymario.]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="264">4:24</a> WHY MOYANG WHY

[@Prismate]

just.. reinvent the builds that are broken? part of the fun is finding new ways to solve problems, and new problems always come with new solutions.

[@jacklandedhere5157]

Tell me you've never touched redstone in your life without telling me you've never touched redstone in your life.

[@TiredMoonRabbit]

​@@jacklandedhere5157tell me you're complacent without telling me you're complacent.

[@FarisTheScientist]

Mojang Never Listen To Redstoners,Becuase This Is More Unhappy Stuff for Redstone

[@bred4ev3r]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="409">6:49</a> well there goes tnt minecart bombs…

[@cegexen8191]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="145">2:25</a> having randomness in bedrock is crazy. since we don't have the necessary compounds for json elements, there is no way to have randomness. and that's cool to have some here, if we can figure out how to use it

[@TheFrozenGeode]

the camman update

[@chieseledboockshelf]

A canman18 subscriber found

[@jacketylon]

I just tested that Redstone dust updating thing and it still works for me on 24w33a Edit: I found out that the changes are toggleable in the experimental settings area

[@5upertnt_ng73]

people when an unfinished snapshot is unfinished and prone to change:

[@burgersfrompigs]

Agreed.redstones fine

[@llamadrama1090]

It's just unnecessary changes, not unfinished

[@mattaku9430]

Oh wow, people can’t give feedback

[@Mateo-zi8ub]

Mojang asked for feedback, we give them feedback

[@LineOfThy]

@@mattaku9430difference between “here’s why I think this update could use changes” and “OMG MOJANG GONNA RUIN REDSTONE RARRRRR”

[@Bunny_Bill]

I'm furious as Mojang for breaking tnt minecart pranks

[@LethalChicken77]

Nah the new redstone dust updating is a good thing, yeah existing builds will break but they are mostly trivial to fix with blocks that do update their surroundings, like note blocks.

[@benroberts8363]

Yeah i can clearly see you didn't touch redstone stuff

[@Damian-cilr2]

"Trivial to fix" my guy have you seen how large some redstone builds are (and they are already compact for what they are),this might make redstone builds twice as large so not great...

[@ITSLAMEOLIAM]

Hey purplers! Can you do this, Chatgpt gave this to me To create a simple 2×2 door in Minecraft, use the following steps: 1. **Dig a 2x2 hole:** Create a 2-block wide and 2-block high space in the ground. 2. **Place Pistons:** Place two pistons vertically on each side of the hole, making sure they face inward. You should have four pistons in total. 3. **Add Blocks:** Place blocks in front of each piston, filling the hole's space, to form the door. 4. **Connect Redstone:** Place redstone dust on the ground adjacent to the pistons and connect it to a switch or pressure plate to control the door. This will create a door that opens and closes when activated.

[@dbaker280]

I think the reason Mojang “fixed” redstone the way they did is to make it more intuitive. There’s no way you’d guess the way redstone indirectly updates blocks. That kind of thing hurts new players trying to pick it up. I like it. But I’m a filthy casual and don’t have years of builds that will break as a result. (we need a new 0tick solution though)

[@posterboymc]

Thanks for including the stacking minecart change! I have a build where I was using that mechanic as the main triggering mechanism.

[@TheTripleSpike]

Roalercoasters are about to be crazy

[@BasicallyBaconSandvichIV]

The not stacking minecarts is catastrophic actually, because it completely guts the explosive capacity of TNT minecarts. Which was the one of main things I'd try out with the minecart changes.

[@TmeiYT]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="178">2:58</a> got you funi numbers detected

[@matt.w]

Camman must be so happy rn. (maybe)

[@BakedBeanEnjoyer]

They fixed most of the stuff in the new snapshot and they said they are gonna fix more, they ain’t gonna ruin redstone

[@nothingbutlemon11]

Not sure about the details but the random example shown in Mojangs example will now prioritize the left piston(?) and stackable minecart yay

[@BakedBeanEnjoyer]

@@nothingbutlemon11 yeah

[@Ellis-xq9pw]

good point about the broken redstone but atleast it is just a snapshot

[@You_Skit_Played]

Mojang should title this update “Camman18 won’t leave us alone about Minecarts”

[@Toxtube]

I believe they will realise how they can improve this update, and hopefully do what the modders have done

[@Pizzacraft100]

The RNG Update🤗

[@MEMERMAN67]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="25">0:25</a> bro mastered shadow clone jutsu

[@LeanneLeroy-ou7ob]

Now this is my day better!

[@GD_SoulFlow]

They should add a new block that can change the state of minecarts flying/or maybe make it some sort of a gamerule that normaly isnt active so that older projects dont get ruined

[@Glitchywastakenagain]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="18">0:18</a> next video camman18 breaks the sound barrier in joy cuz Minecraft’s became faster

[@atlas7309]

I think they should keep the redstone changes and add new blocks/features that behave in old ways. That way we can have the performance, consistency and ease of understanding while still allowing experts to utilise old mechanics!

[@PoppyPitts-vm3jx]

Your work on this is so clear!

[@SakuraRyokoMusic]

Funny thing about Carpet Mod, is that Gnembon is now suddenly having issues updating Carpet Mod; probably for these exact reasons. The Irony.

[@complexify476]

Mojang just ruinded almost every major Redstone build

[@treypresents8641]

I don’t know what effect this will have on bedrock, but I literally just build a complex Redstone door in my survival world and it took two days

[@nexpid]

comparing a fully fledged mod to the first iteration of a feature marked as "experimental" is crazy. every mod goes through its trial and error stage - same goes with Mojang, except they're sharing their progress publicly with snapshots. content like this annoys me

[@the_cheese_cultist]

every snapshot with a controversial change people go "Mojang ruined X!!!!" and then they revert it and they go "OMG Mojang finally listened". every fucking time. that's the point of snapshots. and this one is also under an experiment which is explicitly open to feedback and has no ETA.

[@WonkyFish19]

@@the_cheese_cultistwhat abt the times where they didnt revert it e.g copper bulbs

[@the_cheese_cultist]

@@WonkyFish19 bedrock has 10 tick redstone so copper bulb died because of parity. and that would be making a good feature less good (it's still a 1 block t flip flop). not the same thing.

[@4203105]

The point is that they tried to make Redstone less laggy in a jank way. The code behind it looks bad on top of that, but that isn't the main problem here.

[@4203105]

​@@the_cheese_cultist Mojang specifically said it wasn't because of parity. Are you calling them liars?

[@szymonszymon9215]

@Purplers I know a very easy way to fix redstone wires. Do you know what happenes when you use shears on string connected to tripwire? It changes its state. I think that the solution might be just letting you to change state of individual redstone dusts, so they updatade everything. It will let both the lower lag and working pistons exist at the same time. It doesn't require rewriting all of the stuff done in that snapshot, so mojang might do it.

[@Trix465]

I think old designs breaking isn't a reason to not make changes. If something was never intended e.g. quasi-connectivity but was left for a long time and incorporated into designs doesn't mean its now intended and should be kept. It will mean redesigns of a lot of contraptions/farms but I think for new redstoners and people just starting it functions far more logically than before (excluding bugs - but im sure theyll fix the bugs at a minimum). Rather than be mad about old designs breaking I think people should be inspired for the potential to be the person who designs something new.

[@benroberts8363]

Go back to bedrock edition little kid

[@justin68]

Rip to all of tnt minecart nukes

[@SprayInk-Kreatïv-Nouveau]

Cards on the table, Fixing a bug is not ruining redstone, and neither will improving minecarts, it's just gonna change the way things are made, this type of changes has been done since the beta we're not gonna die because of it.

[@superalbbatross]

As a Minecraft alpha player its really sad to see that minecarts pushing each other on adjacent rails go. I have very fond memories or making loops near straight rails and loading them with carts as the only way to make carts gain speed to go long distances or up hill. It has allways been very nostalgic to be able to continue to use that mechanic, very sad to see this <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="50">0:50</a> "bug" go.

[@willwm3126]

Also I don't necessarily say that redstone ruined Edit: NEVERMIND REDSTONE IS RUINED EVERYONE RUN!!!

[@LineOfThy]

Overreaction

[@d1nodray]

@@LineOfThy no

[@ElBriTos]

​@@d1nodrayyes

[@omgtherenonames69]

Theres REALLY good things which is a version i wanna live in but there are worse things bigger than that

[@catsarecoolxdd9892]

What do you mean the feedback is mostly negative? Everyone loves the new minecart and redstone changes, only the dust changes, which is a small part of the snapshot, get not well received.

[@Nate1994a]

As someone who occasionally dabbles with redstone the only thing I really want to be fixed is parallel Redstone lines not updating and potentially the removal of any randomness all the random updates Etc are fine there just something you have to get used to and work around or exploit.

[@LaRataMasInsana]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="245">4:05</a> Satisfactory moment! 🚨

[@ThatGodDamnChickenNugget]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="145">2:25</a> this could actually work for like a randomizer of some sort if you stacked like 5 in a row

[@DesktopFolder]

(trembling in fear of slimestone being ruined) "redstone dust, and minecarts" ah, carry on then

[@ENDMVP]

That's why it's a snapshot, because there are lags, and they're making improvements incrementally, fixing bugs as they come up.

[@GwnTim1]

"Mojang is about to RUIN redstone" *Sigh*, again?

[@epicboy330]

They really just attacked the redstone torch with oversimplification like a major company logo

[@Eliiscool1500]

I’ll do 1 comment for every pushup this like gets

[@pentacontagon7964]

I just did 5 pushups

[@italianball6653]

Shut up and make an original comment

[@IAmSp33d]

how'd your comment get more than be even though I made it earlier?

[@JonahAGamr]

@@IAmSp33dluck/skill issue

[@user-ko1lx7st8n]

Pushup

[@Flatcoronet-tq6en]

The parity fix that made Java like bedrock